BBC Resurrecting the Dead to Make Up Climate News

Tom Barr writes: The BBC is up to its old tricks, using any old snap to support its warmist position.

Apparently desperate to support the Marrakech Alarmist Junket still reeling from the election of Trump; in its “news” (using the term loosely) piece “2016 ‘very likely’ to be world’s warmest year” it originally illustrated its assertion “2016 has seen high temperatures lead to devastating droughts in many parts” with a photograph of numerous dead cattle:


Archived here:

The trouble is that this picture is Getty Images # 57127741 which was, in reality, was taken over a decade ago on March 16, 2006.

See it at:

Perhaps somebody at the BBC has done something for their £4bn a year and pointed out that misleading the public like this, and not giving a fig for the facts, is lazy journalism and is bound to get spotted, for free: The picture and its caption have now magically changed to a Massai lady with a water drum balanced on her head along with the incisive claim “High temperatures can lead to devastating droughts”. Genius reporting.

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November 14, 2016 9:53 am

The dishonesty and corruption of the misleading liberal media should be considered a crime…IMHO

J McClure
Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 10:54 am

SNAP – is any MSM outlet taking this climate diatribe seriously?
AD revenue and or politically defined revenue is the issue for MSM.
Cut off the pay-to-play and we’re likely to get learned / properly researched journalism.

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:22 am

The BBC is THE most influential world media outlet, I think you’ll find -trusted for its impartiality

J McClure
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:30 am

With eyes and ears wide open – now is the best moment in time to post solutions.
After all your commitment – decades – swing the insight!
Where should “WE” go from here is the fun …..

J McClure
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:33 am

The BBC can’t exist without taxation. Thus, they are head in hands survents.

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:33 am

It used to be Griff, it used to be. It’s now nothing more than a rabid leftist propaganda mouthpiece and about as reliable a source of news as the Guardian or Independent. I have recently noticed signs that things might be slowly changing at the BBC though which shouldn’t really be all that surprising since their brand was something highly valuable and once it becomes generally known that it’s as biased as any tabloid rag the golden goose is dead in the water.

Sandy In Limousin
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:50 am

Jeremy Clarkson talking about his problems with the BBC. The interesting part starts at about 1:05

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 11:57 am

Griff – I remember Gavin Scmidt on Radio 4’s P.M. programme proclaiming 2014 the warmest year ever. Eddie Mair was clearly aware that David Rose had already pointed out that there was only a 38% chance that this was true and asked “How confident are you of that?”. Gavin Schmidt hesitated and then replied “We’re pretty confident”. Eddie Mair laughed and said “Ok then” but declined to point out the disingenuous nature of Schmidt’s statement. I’ve been paying for the BBC my whole adult life but, over the last ten years, have come to realise that it’s an institutionally green/liberal organisation and can’t be trusted to be impartial on many issues.
What’s the probability that 2015 was the warmest year ever? 2016? Does a 38% probability simply mean that the signal is swamped by the uncertainty because there has been next to bugger-all warming this millenium? How’s La Nina looking?

J McClure
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 12:05 pm

Sorry, your nick reminds me of a bowl cleaning agent.
I’m long in tooth – remembers me of punks dying now – poisoned by passion dying their hair in their own toilet.
The BBC brand is owed by taxation.
Love Doctor Who – never trust BBC news

J McClure
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 12:14 pm

Clarkson and Monckton would be a “gas” – “dream team”

Mr Green Genes
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 12:46 pm

Griff – “The BBC is THE most influential world media outlet, I think you’ll find -trusted for its impartiality”
You don’t live in the UK, do you. Those of us who have to pay for it know better than you.

Stewart Pid
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 1:23 pm

Grif is 97% sure that the BBC only lies 97% of the time …. Further it is 97% likely that things are unprecedented and 97% likely that its worse than we thought!!

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 1:31 pm

Mr Green Genes, I thought Griff was being sardonic! Maybe he really does believe that BS he has written. The BBC is a joke, a terrible, terrible joke. I’m 57, English. When I was a boy, we looked to the BBC for independent comment and news. When I got older, I loved their correspondent’s reports from around the world. Then I started to see bias creeping in (probably around 2000-2005). There was some anti-Jewish stuff, some pro-Palestine stuff. And of course, all the climate change nonsense. Now, I NEVER look at the BBC news. The anti-Brexit reporting was the last straw. For an experiment, to show my wife, I went to their search box a few weeks ago and typed in ‘Brexit’. We worked out that 80% of it was anti-brexit (like moaning about Nissan’s warning), and 20% was neutral. NONE of it was pro-Brexit (like pointing out anything to Britain’s benefit). The BBC is truly awful, and it’s an awful shame. It used to be wonderful.

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 1:36 pm

Everybody Griff knows trusts the Beeb. Therefore it is the world’s most trusted government mouthpiece.

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 2:05 pm

Who is this Griff dude? A comedian? No news organisation is impartial. There is always an agenda. Some are just more honest than others and declare up front what they regard as axiomatic.

Bryan A
Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 3:28 pm

November 14, 2016 at 11:22 am
The BBC is THE most influential world media outlet, I think you’ll find -trusted for its impartiality

More likely The BBC is THE most flatuential world media outlet…

Reply to  J McClure
November 14, 2016 8:23 pm

Griiff, that must be why they changed the image. 😉

Reply to  J McClure
November 15, 2016 2:14 am

The BBC is run by people who are far from impartial. They no longer simply report the news and increasingly set there own strongly left wing agenda. Listening to the stuff they turn out on their monopolistic news radio coverage is like reading the f…..g Guardian which they always quote on ‘what the papers say’. They increasingly see themselves as the official opposition to the Conservative government in view of the largely anonymous Labour party leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.

Reply to  J McClure
November 15, 2016 5:43 am

Griff. So the BBC is impartial is it? Listen, if Al Beeb told me it was raining, I would still go outside to check. I trust the Beeb as far as I can throw it with two broken arms whilst sitting in a wheelchair.

Reply to  J McClure
November 15, 2016 12:04 pm

Hello Griff…fancy seeing you here! The Groan CiF team banned you from commenting or something?

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 4:06 pm

Griff, you missed this sterling example of the BBC impartiality:
“The trouble is that this picture is Getty Images # 57127741 which was, in reality, was taken over a decade ago on March 16, 2006.”
You are as usual pathetic.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
November 15, 2016 12:11 pm

For those of you who don’t know who Griff is, he is/was a prolific commenter on all things related to Climate Change at the Groan (the UK’s Guardian).
Griff knew everything about the climate.

Reply to  NeverReady
November 15, 2016 2:04 pm

The BBC quotes and promotes the Guardian at every opportunity and still nobody reads it. In coffee shops and store cafes with complimentary newspapers available to read, the one that’s always left in the rack untouched and in pristine condition is the Guardian.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Sunsettommy
November 15, 2016 2:56 pm

Thanks, Neverready, that explains everything. Nobody reads the Guardian – yes, I know I could stop right here but – to learn anything as it is a knowledge free zone. It would be bankrupt if the BBC didn’t buy 97% of the copies to distribute to the news teams. Nothing makes the broadcasts without Guardian approval. When Cherie the Blair Witch got into trouble using a con man to buy flats there were only two ‘news’ outlets that didn’t think this was news. Guess which two? It was all over everywhere else.

Robert from oz
Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 6:31 pm

The OZ ABC has also repeated the claim , its freezing where I live in northeast Victoria so where is this hottest evah ?

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Robert from oz
November 14, 2016 8:49 pm

Based upon this chart, it would require strong cooling for the next two months to avoid 2016 being a new record-warm year (since the satellite record began in 1979) in the UAH dataset.” Roy Spencer
El Niño years tend to have warmer temps. Nothing new here. Nor is it related to CO2 or anything else humans do. See No Tricks Zone on the 14th., and on the 10th about cooling.
It has been warmer than usual where I live (central Washington State), but cooling starts Wednesday. It’s been cold in other parts of the world; north central Europe, for one. Just weather.

Paul Mackey
Reply to  Marcus
November 15, 2016 3:18 am

The license fee is a crime! They take money from you with menaces and deliver very little in return.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  Paul Mackey
November 15, 2016 7:10 am

“They take money from you with menaces and deliver very little in return.”
Not from me, they don’t. I don’t have a TV and don’t use iPlayer. When they asked why I refused to pay, I pointed out that the money was being used to broadcast propaganda. Which, I did not want to be a part of.

November 14, 2016 9:55 am

The nice thing about the net is making it rather more difficult to lie.

Reply to  Tom Halla
November 14, 2016 11:22 am

I see no sign of that!
Its a web of lies!

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 11:27 am

Having sat through the Nine O’Clock news for over three years, I guess you haven’t been paying attention.
Or are you a Beeb Troll?

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 11:29 am

Griff, Re your BBC comment above you missed off the sarc tag

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 1:20 pm

November 14, 2016 at 11:22 am
I see no sign of that!
Its a web of lies!

To which the BBC is a MAJOR contributor

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 1:48 pm

So says the one of the biggest liars on this site.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 3:01 pm

Mark, it’s not clear that Griff knows enough to lie.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 8:33 pm

It’s not allowed on the internet if it’s not true!
Media Matters corrects everything in real time as you submit your posts, and before anyone reads it. Of course, for you leftists, they correct YOUR thoughts right there in your brains before you even begin to type.
Hi Griff!

Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 3:17 am

No , it has obviously had zero affect on stopping your lies.
Griff, the perpetual LIAR !.

Reply to  Griff
November 16, 2016 2:43 pm

Griffypoo leaves lies and falsehoods everywhere he comments.
To Griffypoo, every day is opposite day, where he contradicts all statements of fact or truth.

Reply to  Latitude
November 14, 2016 1:25 pm

Is that near latitude zero, Latitude?

Reply to  Latitude
November 15, 2016 7:24 am

What is the snow-capped mountain? Is it Kilimanjaro? It used to be claimed that the glacier and the snowfields on Kilimanjaro are declining because of global warming. I think it is now generally agreed that the decline is indeed at least partly caused by man made climate change – but the change in question is local, not global. Precipitation on Kilimanjaro has declined because many of the trees that formerly covered the low land around the mountain have been cut down, creating a more arid local climate.

Eugene WR Gallun
November 14, 2016 9:57 am

The lies are just getting silly. It’s like something out of Monty Python.
Eugene WR Gallun

Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
November 14, 2016 10:23 am

Except Monty Python was fiction and unfortunately, this stuff is put forth as fact.

Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
November 14, 2016 10:57 am

Not much of a cheese shop then, is it? 🙂

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  jimmaine
November 14, 2016 3:37 pm

jimmaine — more like a dead parrot skit — Eugene WR Gallun

Pat Frank
Reply to  jimmaine
November 14, 2016 6:23 pm

More like a takeoff on The Life of Brian, the aqueduct scene.
Green zealots sitting in agitprop meeting dressed in hemp togs: Leader, “What have fossil fuels ever done for us!?” Meek voice from the back, “Well, there’s the clean piped-in water.” And so it goes. …

November 14, 2016 9:58 am

That’s right up there with the usual images of white “pollution smoke” (i.e. condensate) being emitted from some industrial facility we see with so many green articles.

November 14, 2016 9:58 am

And yet even the BBC had to report the “Rise in CO2 has ‘greened Planet Earth'”
Now why couldn’t they have used an image portraying that instead?

November 14, 2016 9:59 am

Haven’t you heard? CAGW can reach back in time!

Reply to  PaulH
November 14, 2016 10:47 am

Now that’s what I call a tele-connection.

ferd berple
Reply to  PaulH
November 14, 2016 11:22 am

CAGW can reach back in time!
Every year the past gets colder and colder, according to government funded scientists at NASA/GISS. only a massive carbon tax can stop this process, which threatens to irreparably harm people today by killing off their parents before they were even born. the past has now become so cold that it is unlikely anyone alive even a few hundred years ago could survive to this day.

Reply to  ferd berple
November 14, 2016 1:50 pm

I’m not sure how many people born 100 years have survived till today, even without the past getting colder.

November 14, 2016 10:01 am

The net may save our lives in more ways than one. It probably saved this last election for the good guys of the world. 🙂

Reply to  TA
November 15, 2016 5:47 am

Dead right. Oh, this one is for Griff –

November 14, 2016 10:06 am

A person becomes a liberal (er, now “progressive”) when truth itself becomes malleable an plastic. Truth thus become “truth” that only exists to advance a higher agenda of advancing the post-modern Secular Utopia. In the case of this photograph, it is vividly re-imagined to portray a current danger in the context of climate that humans can somehow mitigate.

November 14, 2016 10:11 am

The Beeb has now changed the picture to that of a farmer (looks like India), squatting in a parched field. Could have been taken at any time, including the aweful famine in the nineteen forties.
On the other hand, Yahoo news heads the story with a picture of a couple in deckchairs basking in the sun on a beach, probably in England. Bring it on!

Reply to  Old'un
November 14, 2016 10:55 am

The picture has been replaced, but has the “journalist” been replaced?

Freedom Monger
Reply to  Sleepalot
November 14, 2016 11:43 am

Ha! All this talk of the BBC and “sacking” reminds me of the opening credits to Monty Python’s Holy Grail.

Reply to  Old'un
November 14, 2016 11:24 am

As with the endless complaints about pics of power stations – do you think the junior picture editor who illustrates these things puts any thought into it?
They pick a vaguely relevant stock photo.
Even this website does that!

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 11:43 am

If it were an article about possible delays on the No. 42 bus route to Islington I would agree with you. When they are ‘reporting’ a pack of lies with a view to reinforcing a political agenda and scaring the population half to death I’d expect a little more diligence tbh.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 12:26 pm

Even this website does that!

Citation! Or crawl away.

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 1:51 pm

Notice how Griff excuses lies, when they are being done by his team.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 3:07 pm

Griffie, do you understand what you just said? “We know the truth, just repeat the meme, my flunkie.” [Love that word, meme!]

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 4:53 pm

I grow tired of ‘meme.’ Could we go back to ‘dichotomy?’

Dave Fair
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 14, 2016 5:07 pm

I LIKE this meme! [Think Star Trek’s Scotty.] Dichotomy doesn’t mean the same thing.

Reply to  Griff
November 16, 2016 2:53 pm

The finest and best whatchamacallits now uses vaguely relevant photos for their finest and best educated viewers?
Hah! So much for such a vaunted publication.
Both BBC and viewers, with rare exceptions, are oxymoronic to finest/best/educated.
I almost described Griffypoo!
Only Griffypoo, never had any of those good qualities.

Reply to  Old'un
November 15, 2016 1:59 am
Reply to  tom0mason
November 16, 2016 2:54 pm

And a call to wrong way R. Harridan or something too.

November 14, 2016 10:18 am

Likely to be 0.05 degrees hotter +/- 5 degrees.

Reply to  PiperPaul
November 14, 2016 12:09 pm

Not to be out done – or ‘under done’? – the Grauniad comes with the following statement
Last month was only just over the previous record, coming in at a razor-thin 0.004C above the previous high for the time of year, reached in September 2014.
Stunning piece of equipment that has that kind of accuracy……

Reply to  Dave_G
November 14, 2016 1:43 pm

I watched the BBC News reports this afternoon with the 2 “experts” – one from that illustrious seat of scientific eminence and integrity: the UEA Clime Change Ministry of Truth!
She babbled on about the highest average temperature since records began, somewhere in the 1850’s. That was enough to make me fall over in laughing. In the 1850’s, and up to well into the mid/late 20th Century, all around the world, there were nothing like the present number of temperature recordings, the distribution of actual weather stations was very concentrated, largely in western Europe, there was no standard method of measurement or instrument location/enclosure, no agreed weighting adjustment factors for location, land/sea/altitude etc etc were available, heat island “adjustments” were not even thought about, and the accuracy and reliability of measurements taken had no universal standards. All this makes any forecast or trending of annual temperature increases of the 0.15 degree centrigrade per decade target set for a 2 degree temperature rise by 2100 totally fraudulent and massively discredited. It also fully identifies that the $trillions of consumers’ and taxpayers’ money already spent, allocated or planned a grotesque waste of unaffordable money for the whole world. Even then these green zeolots of the true religion and faiths still need to provide even a scientific basis and evidence of a CO2 rise/temperature rise correlation, let alone a causal link, or splitting and separating out the effects of natural and man-made CO2 emissions, or scientifically and consistently allowing for other man-made inputs which have generated CO2 increases such as de-forestration and massive waste heat from the massive increase in power and energy production other than fossil fuels including waste heat from all electrical appliances, and even the temperature increases from the 1950’s onwards generated by the western reductions in solar gloom due to the Clean Air Acts and Anti-Acid Rain massively reducing particulate carbon and sulphates and other aerosol gases – etc. etc. etc.
We all must feel like poor Galileo before the Inquisition: knowing full well that scientific observations and evidence fully identifies that, contrary to scripture, the Earth orbits the Sun and not vice versa, and yet the powers that be simply sit back and repudiate any such proof and depend simply on some long established conformity, ideology and Act of Faith!

andrew clay
November 14, 2016 10:23 am

The other interesting thing about the BBC article and the WMO “news” is why the WMO pick the years 1961 to 1990 as their baseline comparator as in “The whole of 2015, which broke the previous record by a significant amount, was 0.77 above the 1961-90 average”. Could it have something to do with the fact the period from the 1940’s to the mid 1970’s was of course a cold period (as the German 6th army found out to their cost) which led the proliferation of books and articles in the 1970’s about the impending ice age: see for example To those that deny that happened I can tell you I studied meterology in an evening class in 1980 and we were all told to read Nigel Calder’s The Weather Machine and the Threat of Ice: see
Of course if the WMO/Al Gore were right about the general direction of global warming (and its cause), their cause would have been better evidenced by picking say 1910 to 1940 as their baseline comparator.

November 14, 2016 10:24 am

You can fool some of the people all of the time. We call those people ….fools.

November 14, 2016 10:29 am

It is pretty obvious that the CBC (Canadian Broadcorping Castration) has quotas for certain topics. They actually have someone whose job is to promote LGBTQ issues. He was interviewed on-air so we know that he exists.
The result is that, on all programs, global warming and LGBTQ are mentioned even if that’s not what the program is about. For instance, the host will take any excuse to mention that she is aboriginal and has a female partner.
It’s obvious and disgusting.

Reply to  commieBob
November 14, 2016 11:58 am

What is more disgusting is the fact that none of the political parties do anything about it. Both here in Canada and in other countries.

Reply to  asybot
November 14, 2016 12:08 pm

PBS in the US is very much the same as far as politics. The Republicans have occaisonally threated to defund it, but always failed.

Reply to  asybot
November 14, 2016 6:05 pm

PBS is not totally funded by the government. They’re supported largely by private interests.

Ron Clutz
November 14, 2016 10:29 am

It is likely to be a slightly higher GMT in 2016, that’s what El Ninos do.comment image

November 14, 2016 10:48 am

These debunks are still nice but not really necessary anymore, because the left and the media lost all credibility during the election, and they won’t get it back. Climategate just wasn’t a big enough attention grabbing topic I guess, it took a whopper like a presidentical election to wake everyone up to the lies. The left and media are as dead as a 10 point buck just shot through the boilerroom, the may run a bit but they are dead they just don’t know it yet.

Reply to  Scott
November 14, 2016 2:53 pm

“These debunks are still nice but not really necessary anymore, because the left and the media lost all credibility during the election, and they won’t get it back.”
Oh, if only that were true. If anything, the left & the media have become embolden to get “the truth out”. It’s almost as though they believe the problem is that they weren’t loud enough.

Elie K
November 14, 2016 10:52 am

“Global Warming” changed to “Climate Change” in order for the “scientific research” financed mostly by tax money to continue thriving. The Climate always changes so how they could go wrong!? We had a mini ice age and then we warmed up. Now we have variations of climate that are naturally occurring and have nothing to do with human activity.

Reply to  Elie K
November 15, 2016 4:19 am

er… no
The change in terminology was promoted by a Republican govt advisor to make the issue seem less threatening

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 8:37 am

Seriously? A partisan blog is your “proof”?
You really, really don’t understand the point do you?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 2:02 pm

Not just a partisan rag, but a hack like Phil Plait, who actually describes himself as a ‘Climate Evangelist’ and literally makes a living giving speeches promoting it.
No wonder Grift cites him. Kindred souls.

Reply to  Griff
November 16, 2016 3:14 pm insults?
That is your facts, griffypoo? Crapola from an elitist crapist; who is known for writing contradicting articles within weeks of each other?
Well, no wonder you worship bbc and grauniad. Short circuits between the ears with endless echoes of the sparks.

November 14, 2016 10:57 am

The BBC broadcast on the news this morning that the growth in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has all but plateaued. That is eerie less than a week after the US election. I just have this horrid suspicion (I have no evidence) that selective reporting of CO2 concentration may be a way of putting climate change into cold storage until the next US election (or the one after that, or the one after the one after that…). You can see the headlines a week after a Democrat victory “CO2 on the rise again – time for more climate action”

Reply to  John Hardy
November 14, 2016 11:21 am

Or it might be because various climate groups are making announcements to coincide with the Marakesh conference.
Spooky how the Us arranged the election to distract from that 🙂

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 1:26 pm

Or they are building for a strike against Trump Policies by placing forth the IDEA that CO2 WAS Plateauing prior to his inaguration then informing the public that His policies are again driving up CO2. A short lie to back the “PROOF” behind the Great Lie

Reply to  Griff
November 16, 2016 3:25 pm

Spooky griffypoo?
The USA has a very long term schedule of elections every four years, on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November. Oh, for a hundred and seventy one years.
Yes, given your vast echo chamber of wrong knowledge, where even the shadows echo.

Jim Ross
Reply to  John Hardy
November 14, 2016 11:21 am

I think the story is actually that CO2 emissions are believed to have plateaued for the third year in a row. Atmospheric CO2, on the other hand, continues to grow, albeit at a lower rate than ealier in the year now that the effects of El Nino are wearing off.

Reply to  John Hardy
November 14, 2016 4:11 pm

Nope, the next story will be that climate change has been slowed because of the heroic efforts of the sandal wearing, tofu chomping liberal lefties.
All they have to do is fiddle a bit of data and eh voila! The AGW disease is averted.
Then, when they get the sandal wearers back in power, they’ll just resurrect it by claiming the damage done by the evil Trump empire is only now beginning to manifest itself……once again!
Fiddled data, yada yada yada and were back at square one.
These people are serious AGW religious fanatics, they will never go away.

Johna Till Johnson
Reply to  John Hardy
November 14, 2016 8:56 pm

“The BBC broadcast on the news this morning that the growth in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has all but plateaued. That is eerie less than a week after the US election.”
Certain politicians… finally stopped talking?

November 14, 2016 10:59 am

I’ve just made a complaint to the BBC regarding one of their ‘hottest years eva’ stories where the nice lady from the University of East Anglia had taken time away from her poolside bar in Marrakesh to inform us all of how greater levels of CO2 were causing the hottest year since records began and El Nino had nothing really to do with it. The BBC then showed pictures of a smog blighted far eastern city (in China I guess?) and people wearing face masks to protect from from…… the CO2? My complaint focused on their misrepresentation of the issue by their images but also of their bias of having no-one to challenge the view. The woman from UEA even had the cheek to claim that President elect Trump would probably see the sense of many of the business opportunities presented by the renewable energy industry without mentioning that he has made it clear he sees the whole AGW issue as total c**p.

Reply to  SBlax
November 14, 2016 12:13 pm

After numerous similar email complaints to the BBC – only to receive their bog standard “we offer a fair and impartial…..etc etc” – I decided the only thing they would properly understand was the removal of my licence fee money and promptly cancelled such.
I urge others to ‘vote’ the same way.

Reply to  Dave_G
November 14, 2016 1:39 pm

Yep, we have, too. Just bought an Amazon FireStick…absolutely brilliant!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dave_G
November 15, 2016 2:49 am

I would be careful, but I support your action as an ex-UK TV tax payer, some ~200,000 people are convicted every year for non-payment, and of those some ~1000 go to prison for repeat non-payment offences. CRAZY!

Tim Hammond
Reply to  SBlax
November 15, 2016 8:35 am

Nothing makes me more mad than the claims that going Green are a good economic opportunity. There is nothing more wrong than that claim, usually “backed up” by figures for jobs. It is simply turning economics upside down. Jobs are a cost, not a benefit.

November 14, 2016 11:01 am

That is eerie less than a week after the US election.

Reply to  PiperPaul
November 14, 2016 11:14 am

O.T……But a very good clue to the next four years of President Trump….
“Trump nixes presidential salary” ..Fox News
Trump said he didn’t even know what the salary was, before CBS’ Lesley Stahl told him.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 11:53 am

Missed a good deed and a great PR opportunity there in my view. He could have had that paid into a veterans charity.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 2:03 pm

Or just reduce the deficit by the same amount.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 3:11 pm

On the plus side, Trump will take a tax deduction of his non-salary as a business expense and use federal fund to put a huge eliminated “Trump” sign on top of the White House. He will use the taxpayer funds to upgrade the White House as a rolling tax deduction for two generations of Trumps.
Just because Trump is better than Hillary, do not mistake that to mean that he is above reproach.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 5:05 pm

Lorcanbonda – if you had ever paid taxes you would know you don’t get a deduction for income you don’t receive. There is simply no income to be taxed. And no one can take deductions for taxpayer funded upgrades for anything.
If you can’t come up with an actual abuse of the taxpayer wrt Trump’s turning down his salary, then afa you know, he is above reproach.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 7:59 pm

Jtom — are you serious? Of course I paid taxes. And I know that you are not supposed to deduct income that you don’t receive.
Either way — whether you like Trump or not, his tax situation is pretty dodgy. He lives like a billionaire, but pays taxes like a pauper.

Dave Fair
Reply to  lorcanbonda
November 14, 2016 8:28 pm

1. One may carry losses in a given year forward to offset losses in future years.
2. Trump pays taxes like a billionaire. Paupers pay no taxes.
Ignorance is no excuse.

Dave Fair
Reply to  lorcanbonda
November 14, 2016 8:29 pm

offset gains

Reply to  Marcus
November 15, 2016 8:26 am

David — no kidding. You get the “Captain Obvious” award.
That has nothing to do with what I wrote. Trump has taken billions out of his corporations while declaring losses for tax purposes. Are you saying that there isn’t anything dodgy about that? Doesn’t it bother you that Trump is living like a billionaire while paying less taxes than you?

Reply to  PiperPaul
November 16, 2016 3:28 pm

What is eerie, will be the absence of USA participants at Marrakesh; they know it will be their last party with their climate tools.

November 14, 2016 11:09 am

..It has become a very sad state of affairs when the only place to find honest reporting on the things that matter is from websites and their contributors like WUWT and Breitbart ….MSM is dead in the water for rational people….

Nigel S
November 14, 2016 11:09 am

The BBC can’t help themselves. Question on Radio 4 ‘Round Britain Quiz’ this afternoon based on ‘Obamacare’ (I’m not making this up!). They have been campaigning against Brexit since 24th June. Their reaction to the news of Mr Trump’s election has been extremely entertaining. Radio 4 is for the bien pensant Guardian reading classes, ‘Round Britain Quiz’ is a niche programme even for Radio 4 with teams of regional eggheads (Midlands v Northern Ireland today).

November 14, 2016 11:09 am

Fraud spotting is the new sport. This is why Americans are wary of NPR and other public bias.

November 14, 2016 11:19 am

Estimated temps-
“Because the data with respect to in-situ surface air temperature across Africa is sparse, a one year regional assessment for Africa could not be based on any of the three standard global surface air temperature data sets from NOAA NCDC, NASA-GISS or HadCRUT4 Instead, the combination of the Global Historical Climatology
Network and the Climate Anomaly Monitoring System (CAMS GHCN) by NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory was used to estimate surface air temperature patterns”

Reply to  richard
November 14, 2016 11:24 am

…Sooo, in other words, they just made it up….again ?

November 14, 2016 11:19 am

Yes, but the important point was the headlines in today’s BBC news…
2016 will without doubt be the warmest year ever, warmer than 2015, El Nino only made a minor contribution to that and 16 of the warmest years have been this century.
A straight and accurate and factual report, backed by quotes from leading scientists about the need for climate action.
So never mind Trump: the real story is still going out… and Trump looks foolish for his denialist position.

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 11:25 am

..Sorry Griffy, but YOU are the denialist of reality…

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 12:14 pm

Griif you missed mentioning that in the pacific the sls was an incredible 30 mm higher , see even you cherry pick.

Reply to  Marcus
November 14, 2016 12:16 pm

Sorry not sls , should have been SLR and Griff of course

Freedom Monger
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 12:08 pm

At “best” it could only be the warmest year in the last 200, that’s statistically nothing. The Earth has endured millions upon millions years where the temperature was far warmer.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 12:16 pm

Griff: The dyslexic lyer. Go and read the BBC website again. Clue:

2016 ‘very likely’ to be world’s warmest year

Reply to  Harry Passfield
November 14, 2016 1:43 pm

I think with lying like that, Griff almost certainly works for the BBC. It is, after all, a huge employer, and everyone in Britain knows someone who works for the BBC, so the odds are good that someone on here works for the BBC…and my money is on Griff. If it looks like a liar, and sounds like a liar, it probably works for the BBC.

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 2:06 pm

The huge spike caused by the El Nino, that even as we speak is disappearing had no impact on the year’s average temperature.
What is it about Griff and his willingness to shred whatever credibility he may have left in order to pass on even the most absurd of lies?

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 2:26 pm

Wow! Griff,is back with more misleading crap.
The superior Satellite temperature data was not mentioned in the article at all. It warmed ONLY when El-Nino showed up in late 2015,with the Blob already in place in the Northern Pacific early in 2015. Now that El-Nino and Blog go away, it stopped warming, imagine that!
You are a bald faced liar!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 3:21 pm

Griffie, temperatures bouncing along a plateau for almost 20 years is not a reason for “climate action.”

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 4:27 pm

As usual Griff, shows his ignorance about what causes warming trends:
Since 1982, Temperature Records Show No Warming Other Than That Due To Natural El Niño Warmth-Inducing Events

Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 6:16 pm

Didn’t you get the memo?
You’re fired!

Reply to  clipe
November 15, 2016 4:33 am

I hope you’ll forward a generous redundancy settlement?
In fact I think you’ll find that the ‘hottest year’ and ‘record low sea ice’ reporting is what is the actual, factual mainstream reporting for the next few days.
and climate fact won’t go away during a Trump administration.
Trump’s govt is going to be hard put to explain away the facts over next 4 years.

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 8:38 am

How exactly does anybody know what contribution was made by the El Nino?
You simply skate over the actual, real problem – claiming knowledge where not only there isn’t any, but there cannot be any.

November 14, 2016 11:38 am

2016 will without doubt be the warmest year ever
And food production has never been higher. Human lifespans have never been higher. The percentage of people dying from famine and disease has never been lower.
So tell us again why humans should fear warming? Why should human beings, an animal that cannot survive temperatures below 27C without technology, why should we fear warming of the earth, when the average temperature of the earth is 15C?
Why should humans, one of the best adapted animals on the planet to deal with heat, an animal that has almost no natural defense against cold, why should humans fear warming of a planet that is on average much too cold for human survival?
If we are talking about the warmest year ever, how about the temperature back at the dawn of our oral history, the book of Genesis. The only place on earth that Adam and Eve could have survived naked is the tropical jungles. Because while the Polar regions warm and cool with the climate, the tropical jungles have been the same temperature for millions of years.

Steve Fraser
November 14, 2016 11:45 am

Griff… Learn to read. The headline says ‘likely’. That is not ‘without a doubt’.
The ‘data’ they claim to use is the fully-adjusted NOAA/NASA/CRU, which is a consolidation of interpolations and extrapolations into an estimate, and does not contain error bars. These are the ‘data’. For which the past has been ‘cooled’ and the later years ‘warmed’.
And, playing fast and loose so-far, say that this is the warmest in the recent millennia, fully ignoring the Medieval, Roman, Mycenaen warm periods, and the Holoscene climate optimum.
So, not to factual… Their report or your summary.

Reply to  Steve Fraser
November 15, 2016 4:30 am

Likely is standard scientific lay term for expressing statistical probability of the results presented…
RSS/UAH are adjusted too you know and the adjustments to surface temps (at least) are perfectly valid…
(If I get time I will refer you to Judith curry’s blog entry showing how technique is valid)

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 8:41 am

The results presented cannot have a statistical probability because for one year you cannot in any way accurately account for all the factors in something like a temperature. This is not a large sample and a correlation but a single figure. What’s the probability something is 10? That’s the sort of question you are claiming has a probability.

Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 14, 2016 11:46 am

The desperation of global warmists became so hysterical after last Wednesday that The Independent produced this other piece of drivel, where they try to vent the “scientific truth” that Earth is about to become Venus:
Most of times I am just amused by the preposterous doomsday prophecies of Warmists, but in the last few days I am really disgusted by them. It’s a whole new level compressed into little time…

Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 14, 2016 1:17 pm

Thanks Lucius. That was a fun couple of minutes poking the hairdressers at the Independent who are convinced they understand nonlinear planetary atmosphere physics. No disrespect to hairdressers who are content to admit that they don’t understand nonlinear planetary atmosphere physics intended. I certainly don’t.

Reply to  cephus0
November 14, 2016 1:45 pm

Is that like the conspiracy theorists on YouTube ‘Twin Towers’ video comments, who cannot understand momentum, energy, and a resting mass?

Reply to  cephus0
November 14, 2016 1:47 pm

How on earth did that comment wind up in the mod’s hands?!? What word in that needs to be assessed? Bizarre.

Reply to  cephus0
November 14, 2016 2:09 pm


William Astley
November 14, 2016 11:56 am

The liberal press and liberal academia have moved beyond closed minds (nay, nay, nay I can’t hear you) to active propaganda.
Climategate (organized effort to stop the publishing of scientific papers that disprove CAGW), Mann’s hockey stick paper (what appears to be deliberate manipulation of data/analysis to create a hockey stick), and the manipulation of GISS temperature data are some of the many examples that support the assertion that for liberals facts, logic, and integrity of process no longer matter.
The liberals/cult of CAGW are on the wrong side of the most important scientific questions in recorded history. We live in interesting times.
November 14, 2016, Ocean temperature anomaly

November 14, 2016 11:59 am

The graph below shows the NOAA/NASA hottest ten years of the 21st century plus 1998, and of course they show 1998 as being average in temperature. They do this so they can claim years after 1998 are the “hottest ever”. But if you check out the UAH temperature chart below, you will see that it shows that 1998 was hotter than all subsequent years, by quite a bit, except for the last year 2016 when the temperature exceeded the highpoint of 1998, in Feb. 2016, with a temperature one-tenth of a degree hotter than 1998.
The NOAA/NASA graph and the UAH chart are telling different stories. Who are you going to believe? UAH, with no political agenda? Or, NOAA?NASA with a huge political agenda?

Nigel S
Reply to  TA
November 14, 2016 3:19 pm

Is this a hockey stick which I see before me,
The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee.
I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible
To feeling as to sight? or art thou but
A hockey stick of the mind, a false creation,
Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?
Apologies to the shade of WS.

Harry Passfield
November 14, 2016 12:06 pm

The BBC News website seems to think they are dealing with simpletons because it has a sub-heading: “What is climate change?” – yet then they show a graphic of temp as an anomaly!! As if the ‘simpletons’ they are aiming at will know that. No, all the BBC wants to do is frighten them with a chart that (we know) only shows less than a degree change in around 100 years, yet the ‘simpletons’ will think the world is melting. The BBC misleads. (Nation Shall Speak Tell Lies Unto Nation?)

November 14, 2016 12:31 pm

This BBC article is typical of the distorted presentation they’re up to these days….
What climate change deniers, like Donald Trump, believe –

Solomon Green
November 14, 2016 12:33 pm

The late Sir Anthony Jay, joint writer of Margaret Thatcher’s favourite television comedy series “Yes, Minister”and “Yes, Prime Minister”, who was employed by the BBC for nearly ten years claimed that the three letters really stood for Bloated, Biased and Creepy

Nigel S
Reply to  Solomon Green
November 14, 2016 3:09 pm

He also wrote this brilliant comment by Jim Hacker, Prime Minister.
“Computer models are no different from fashion models: seductive, unreliable, easily corrupted, and they lead sensible people to make fools of themselves.”

Stephen Richards
November 14, 2016 12:34 pm

There is another faked image of a guy on a large parched piece of land with a hoe. No way is it anything other than a setup

Nigel S
Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 14, 2016 3:11 pm

The hoes are mainly the climate scientists.

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Nigel S
November 15, 2016 10:02 am

Nigel S —
“The hoes are mainly the climate scientists.” Just saw your comment. A little late but I got a good laugh out of it.
Eugene WR Gallun

Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 14, 2016 3:14 pm

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November 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Of course this will be the warmest year on record. Homogenization of current data and “corrections” applied to past temperature data will insure that outcome.

November 14, 2016 12:42 pm

Channe; 4 is even worse than the BBC with its climate change propaganda.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
November 15, 2016 4:25 am

It had an excellent article on Trump and fighting climate change on Sunday night, followed by a segment on the proposed tidal lagoon power schemes for the UK

Pop Piasa
November 14, 2016 12:57 pm

“Resurrecting the dead”
Yup, You’d have to resurrect the Dead El Nino to gat the planet to start heating again.
It’s -15C in middle latitude areas of asia as I write this and lots of -25C readings to the north. We haven’t even seen the jet stream complete its seasonal changeover yet.

Scottish Sceptic
November 14, 2016 1:37 pm

The BBC are past their sell by date.

Reply to  Scottish Sceptic
November 14, 2016 1:50 pm

Some of us have pulled out, stopped paying the licence fee, and bought an Amazon FireStick! Loving it.

Nigel S
Reply to  bazzer1959
November 14, 2016 3:14 pm

Hallelujah brother, spread the word!
(RIP Leonard Cohen of course)

November 14, 2016 2:10 pm

BBC is part of the Northern hemisphere equivalent of the “ship of fools” except unlike the Southern ship of fools that got trapped in ice, this Northern one sunk as the idiots boarded.

November 14, 2016 3:12 pm

Auntie, as the BBC was once affectionately known, has become an embarrassment
It’s once well earned reputation is in the gutter

don penman
November 14, 2016 3:22 pm

We will be staring next year on channel 5 wild weather UK where we have all been flooded out by severe storms this winter which have not happened. The interview will be “The weather is going crazy we have to cut our co2 emissions”. We will hear some propaganda like this.

Reply to  don penman
November 14, 2016 4:37 pm

@don penman
The IPCC figures will be fiddled, GW will ‘stop’ and a proclamation of success declared for all the wind farms and solar arrays they encouraged.
Just wait…..It’s coming.

November 14, 2016 4:05 pm

That fake photo reminds me of an account my uncle told me who lived in Rhodesia – now Zimbabwe – at the time of the civil war. The BBC who supported Mugabe’s rebels photographed workers lying on the grass in a park in the capital Harare during their lunch breaks – as they did every day – and reported it as a massacre by the government.

Reply to  ptolemy2
November 14, 2016 6:05 pm

That’s nothing new. The BBC had a reporting team in Northern Ireland during the troubles. They paid children to ‘riot’ to make a news item. Happily, the CO of the unit in the area concerned arrested the team and put them ‘in clink’ for several hours.

November 14, 2016 4:24 pm

Griff, isn’t it about time for you to change your username and troll as someone else?

Reply to  Cube
November 15, 2016 4:23 am

I don’t think people should change ids/use multiple ids on the net.

michael hart
November 14, 2016 4:26 pm

The BBC, and other big-media, regularly lie to the voters.
And now the voters have started to lie to the media, until they reach the voting booth.
At some point the media might start to connect the dots.

November 14, 2016 4:29 pm

Here is another anal-shattering enema for science. According to this new study in Science Magazine, climate change is catastrophic because (gasp!) nearly every single biome (82%) is adapting to it. I kid you not — adaptation is bad — and, like a strong man twisting your arm behind your back, climate change is forcing to happen. Apparently, nothing else could have caused this tragedy to occur.
“Most ecological processes now show responses to anthropogenic climate change. In terrestrial, freshwater, and marine ecosystems, species are changing genetically, physiologically, morphologically, and phenologically and are shifting their distributions, which affects food webs and results in new interactions.”
(Oh, the horrors!)

Reply to  lorcanbonda
November 14, 2016 5:33 pm

Adapting to what? Human-caused climate change? How can you tell they are adapting, when what they are supposedly adapting to, has so little influence on the climate that it cannot be measured? You can’t measure the cause, but you can measure the adaption to this cause? You don’t even know if there is a cause, yet you claim it is being adapted to?
The fundamental problem is the climate alarmists cannot prove their basic theory: That humans are causing the climate to do things it would not normally do because of human activity. There is no proof of this theory. There are a lot of indications this theory is not true. And yet these guys see adaptions to the theory in nature.
Human beings certainly have the ability to see what they want to see, and I think this is what we have here, based on no evidence that there is human-caused climate change.

Reply to  TA
November 14, 2016 6:24 pm

It’s like many “climate change” studies. Not the ones based on thermodynamics, but the ones based on “cause and effect”. They start with the conclusion and then rework the problem statement until the conclusion is confirmed.
Adaptation is a good thing. We adapted to the elements by building homes. So did beavers — before humans were a figment of their imaginations.

Reply to  TA
November 14, 2016 9:35 pm

“They start with the conclusion and then rework the problem statement until the conclusion is confirmed.”
Exactly. About 95 percent of what passes for climate science today starts with the conclusion, the unproven conclusion, that the Earth’s climate is behaving abnormally, and human activity is the cause.

Reply to  TA
November 15, 2016 8:36 am

For me, the presumption is even more careless. All warming is man-made and anything man-made is bad. They can literally study that carbon emissions cause malaria because there is still malaria in the tropics. Yet, malaria is down considerably over the past 100 years, particularly in the developed nations, because of access to medicines and insecticides spread by trucks and planes.
In other words, there is a total disconnect between cause & effect.
I read one study that concluded that deaths due to heat will rise in New York City by hundreds over the next century. One of the assumptions in the study is that air conditioning saved lives, but 87% of residents already have air conditioning so that figure is effectively maxed out for the city. I asked — couldn’t they just turn up their air conditioning (and doesn’t that mean we should ship air conditioners to the tropics?) “But, that would increase carbon emissions!”

November 14, 2016 4:30 pm

Help needed here folks.
I understand the Marrakesh express has 25,000 people attending (did I get that right?).
It’s a two-week conference?
So even in modest terms, the whole shooting match, per person, with flights, food, hotel bills (decent hotels one would assume, not some sleazy flea pit.) should cost around £5,000 each.
So 2,500 x £5,000 = £12, 500,000………….Nahhhhh!!!! I’ll check my calculator again.
£5,000 x 2,500 = £12,500,000
FFS!………Whose paying for all this? And WTF happened to the new fangled video conferencing we were all promised 20 years ago?
I must have read it wrong, sorry folks. No one in their right minds would ship in 2,500 delegates for a meeting on climate change. They don’t have a big enough conference centre, other than a football stadium.
Let me guess. Conferences were restricted to 1 hour a day (let me see…..counts digits) 2,500/8 hours is around 350 people, for each conference. That’s doable. Meanwhile, the rest are in the pool/on the beach/shopping (expense accounts)/or in the pub.
Any jobs going? I’ll even wear sandals.

Reply to  The Informed Consumer
November 14, 2016 9:41 pm

“Any jobs going? I’ll even wear sandals.”
A word of warning: Saving the world is awfully hard work. Especially now that Trump has been elected. 🙂

November 14, 2016 4:54 pm

The BBC was taken over as an accountable arm of the British government following the David Kelly scandal. It was the excuse the government had been seeking for years to draw their teeth, and it worked.
Sadly it was nothing more than a cost-cutting exercise to save money the government has since poured into bogus, biased, AGW research. The BBC has now been instructed to toe the party line and report to Stasi HQ where they will receive their daily propaganda briefings.
One of the questions being asked of the Trump administration is where do press standards stand? We ought to be asking the UK government the same question.
I think we would all like the BBC back that was happy to investigate and criticise our government for their despicable tactics. Instead, they have been beaten into submission with the Savile stick.
I’m sure there are a number of ‘Savile’ politicians, inconveniently still alive, who deserve scrutiny. We of course note, that the politicians ‘guilty’ of unutterable crimes are now dead. Indeed, much like Savile, they are unable to mount a defence. The mistake was made to target Cliff Richard, only a mistake because they forgot he was still alive.
The collusion amongst the BBC and the government is palpable and disgusting.

November 14, 2016 9:32 pm

The BBC (Better Back Clinton ) and the CNN (Clinton News Nerds ) are so out of touch they should have their licences revoked . They have gone from journalists to promoters . At least with CNN you can chose to not buy their product .

Tim of Kilsyth
November 15, 2016 12:28 am

Living in Melbourne Australia may I observe that since June it has been cold and wet. We are now well into Spring and it is still cold . In the forecast period we have 2 warmish days coming up. Western Australia has had the coldest Spring for years and years.
I am sorry but weather goes in cycles always does especially in Australia.We had droughts in the 19th Century and the early 20th century. But the trajectory is not a straight line up in temperature. Far from it. At present I am more concerned about prolonged cold.

Patrick MJD
November 15, 2016 2:25 am

Griff is in the UK, apparently. He worries about sea level rise. I would say go visit Portsmouth, Gosport, Exeter even Emsworth places that have been there at sea level, to see how much the sea is higher now than it was ~300 years ago. I will wager it won’t be, significantly, measurable on any tide gauge.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 15, 2016 3:26 am

Griff is more likely on another planet !!
He certainly has no idea what is going on, on this one !!

Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 15, 2016 4:22 am

I do like Emsworth…
If I remember rightly it was settled after changes in sea level in the early Medieval period.
I wouldn’t buy a house there now though (even could I afford it)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 5:18 am

Moron! No idea!

Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 8:53 am
Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 9:56 pm

The south and south east of England is sinking (One reason for the London tide barrier) and has been since the ice age. If your claim that sea levels are rising is true then places I mention would be inundated by sea. They are not and there is no noticeable change in any tide gauge in the places I mention. The point I was making which you ignored. Well done Griff showing your lack of knowledge again.

November 15, 2016 3:25 am

TH shows that the COOLING in the 8 months since the peak of the El Nino has been the FASTEST and DEEPEST 8 moth period of cooling in the whole satellite record..
And almost certainly further to go. (I’m used my graphing to match the style for RSS and UAH)comment imagecomment image

November 15, 2016 3:40 am

We should also remember where MOST of the warm anomaly was for the first part of the year.
In a big COLD blob (just not as cold as usual) over northern Europe in the MIDDLE OF WINTER !!
It has not been a “warm” year… it has been a “less cold” year, mainly in one specific region of the planet.
Nothing “Global” about it, at all.

Reply to  AndyG55
November 15, 2016 4:20 am

and a big, exceptionally warm for the time of year, warm area over the arctic….

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 5:17 am

Not here…

Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 8:51 am
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 9:35 am

It is currently 10-20 deg C below normal over northern Eurasia from Kamchatka to the Black Sea. A huge area of incredible cold with temps as low as -41 deg C… mid November. The arctic is warm because of the anomalously weak polar vortex and -ve AO pattern. The cold is just displaced and one could argue how it is that such extreme cold caused by radiative cooling could occur in an enhanced GHG environment?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 12:32 pm

Remember, Griffie: Those that live by polar amplification of warming, die by polar amplification of cooling. The next few years will tell us; guessing the future is just that.

The Prangwizard
November 15, 2016 3:46 am

Is it true? Or did you hear it on the BBC?

Non Nomen
November 15, 2016 4:00 am

“war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength”
Yours truly
Beebe C.

Ex-expat Colin
November 15, 2016 5:06 am

BBC has one hell of a quality problem…very poor unless they are swinging a Hi Def camera around wildlife somewhere. Thats the quality of the camera rather than the fleshware related to its output. The BBC needs a piece of this:
“Black Trump Supporter Smacks Down CNN Reporter for Race Baiting”

November 15, 2016 6:56 am

Media have long been inferring connections between ‘hottest year ever’ and provocative images like a field of dead cows or a dried-up river bed. Subliminal messaging. Works well, too, which is why they use it.

November 15, 2016 8:13 am

The BBC is run by a load of arts graduates who are proud of the fact that they know nothing about science and even less about maths. The BBC long ago got rid of impartial independently minded scientists who exhibited a sceptical view on global warming. Many popular science presenters who questioned the veracity of agw dogma were fired. So there is no-one in the organisation to counter the steady flow of warmist propaganda and an absolute zero probability of anyone there prepared to say that it is a complete crock of shit.

Reply to  chemengrls
November 15, 2016 8:49 am

“Many popular science presenters who questioned the veracity of agw dogma were fired.”
I don’t think any such were fired. Can you name any?

Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 9:04 am

David Bellamy for one – his BBC career hit an abrupt stop when he called agw as BS. After that everyone knew to keep schtum while every new presenter (eg Prof Brian Cox) are sold hook line and sinker on agw.

Reply to  Griff
November 15, 2016 1:36 pm

David Bellamy for one – his BBC career hit an abrupt stop when he called agw as BS. John Ball for another – he ran an inspired show for younger viewers and was fired for agw heresy. After that everyone knew to keep schtum while every new presenter (eg Prof Brian Cox) are sold hook line and sinker on agw.

Warren Latham
November 16, 2016 10:37 am

The British Bullshit Corporation (BBC) also put out a Radio 4 interview with a certain Trenberth on Monday; all in aid of “hottest year evah” nonsense.
At the time of listening it would have been impolite to VOMIT.

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