Josh writes: From over on the UK side of the pond the 2016 US Presidential election is a bit of a mystery. What should we think?

Josh writes: From over on the UK side of the pond the 2016 US Presidential election is a bit of a mystery. What should we think?

Donald Trump says everything twice. It makes me think he’s trying to convince himself.
…and Hillary can’t remember anything
23 times in a row, too…lol
She obviously didn’t remember:
.deleting 30,000(32,000) e-mails on her home PC
.that her home PC wasn’t considered “Secure”
.that millions of Americans don’t forget
“Donald Trump says everything twice.”
It’s Trump’s way of adding emphasis. He wants to make sure you hear him correctly and understand what he is saying.
Yes, more or less making plurals of things, such as did the natives of Wagga Wagga, or Walla Walla.
If you ever visit Walla Walla, never call Walla Walla, Walla!
As a Brit I have been disgusted with the BBC’s coverage of the US election and its denigration of Trump and his supporters. The BBC is unashamedly pro-Clinton, that alone makes me favour Trump. If Trump is elected I hope one of the first things he does is throw the BBC out of the US.
Does the BBC talk about the Soros money and how it’s being applied?
At any rate the loser can use the weak pound for an extended holiday.
I’ll see your Brexit and raise you a Trump and a Hillary.
The ONLY qualified , HONEST , candidate is Gary Johnson .
We must escape the corrupt to the core dysfunctional Duopoly .
I heartily concur! I’m in!
I’m in.
I already voted for Gary and Bill.
I couldn’t hold my nose and vote this time.
And he’ll lose. Again.
As Johnson says we Libertarians have already won the battle to reveal the utter corruption of the Duopoly stranglehold on debates . The tenant in our cabin who hasn’t changed his registration from TX is registering here in CO today purely to vote the Libertarian ticket which includes the remarkable Lily Williams for senate .
http://cosy.com/images/y12/FacebookGJ800.jpg
“As Johnson says we Libertarians have already won the battle to reveal the utter corruption of the Duopoly stranglehold on debates .”
Yeah, and a lot of good that will do you if Hillary is elected and decides to take away your, (and our) freedom of speech and action by subverting the U.S. Constitution. A dollar, and your moral victory, might get you a cup of coffee.
Nope Gary Johnson is another Climate Change True Believer, so his honesty doesn’t save him. Every politician that believes in the CAGW claptrap must be removed from and/or prevented from getting into any government position, period – especially POTUS.
He’s not a “true believer” altho leaning too much in that direction . He mentions that Harrison Schimtt has told him it’s bunk . I met him in 2012 and am sure I must have expressed my thoughts . But I remember more mentioning how Google Earth had made me aware of what an incredibly large altiplano the Tibetan plateau is , and one of his climbing buddies there agreed and said it was quite a memorable place .
In any case , I think he’s open to reason , just needs it presented convincingly and personally . He’s not for State “solutions” in any case .
In my considered opinion, buffoons and incompetents make better rulers most of the time than dedicated ideologues or smart shysters in someone else’s pockets.
Only occasionally will a man of deep principle and reasonable competence step up to the platte.
And that is not where its at today.
I am all for Trump., because his name means ‘fart’ in British Northern slang, and because he doesn’t believe in AGW.,
And I can’t stand the Clitorall Hinny’s shrill expostulations. Chalk. Blackboard. etc.
The thought of 5 years of that blowzy face, sagging cheeks, screechy little voice and piggy little eyes on TV is almost as bad as watching Tony B Liar.
Gee Leo, I didn’t realize that you liked Shrillery so much
We’re going to be offered a huge carbon tax to offset the coming policy messes vote buying bills coming due, much like the bait and switch deal being offered in Washington state.
To those who threw away their votes on 3rd party candidates, shame on you. It isn’t an eay choice. You sometimes have to cut things down to the bare essentials, cutting out all the noise. I at one time said I couldn’t vote for Trump. But I can, and I will, because I know what’s at stake.
On the other hand, if you continue to reward the party that continues to serve up bad candidates because “they aren’t as bad as the other guy”, then you will never get good candidates.
Mark, we can’t get good candidates anyway – anyone not “anointed” by the MSM and their buddies will be deliberately torn to shreds by the “media,” even if they have to lie to do it.
Mark: I want lasagna for dinner
Me: we don’t have anything to make it, you can have meatloaf or baked chicken
Mark: Then I’m not going to eat
It would help if you come up with an analogy that was actually related to the issue.
IE, not voting is not the same as starving to death.
A better example is being given a choice between being shot and being hung.
No matter which you chose, you are still dead.
It is exactly the same…you refuse to choose between the choices you are given
I’m voting AGAINST Shrillery. And I can’t in good conscience vote for either (any?) of the 3d party loonies.
So I’ve got one choice left. I love this country (if not what it’s become under the crooks in charge du jour), so there’s only one thing to do. And I’ll do it November 8.
Me too.
“flash”
More tears coming for Democrat suckers!
You should thank we’re nuts.
“think”
I hesitate to comment from the UK as we’ve just changed Prime Minister without anyone getting a vote – but have you thought about putting the candidates in a line and seeing which one can pull a sword out of a stone?
Trump would curse the stone and Hillary would use a special ops team to rig it ahead of time or declare it a vast conspiracy stone. Bill would make money selling tickets to the event, including block sales of tickets to foreign governments.
And certainly Trump would make money on renting the venue for the task
If I didn’t think it likely that Soros would own the wizard responsible for setting up the challenge I’d say it was worth a go.
We’ll get back with on that after the wizard emails to Podesta are released.
Anyone recall the recent complaint by a WUWT writer about science being corrupted by politics? Ah, for those far off days 3 months ago when we all thought that was a valid point.
Gareth, it’s not going to get any better, either, no matter who wins the election. Climate science is political science.
Trump has a New York City mouth. The rest of the US and the world doesn’t quite understand that. And in New York City if someone verbally attacks you then you attack them back.
But in New York City nobody takes any of it too seriously. Certain cities are known for their politeness — New York for its crudity. So Trump has had a problem transitioning from being a New Yorker to being a mealy mouthed national politician.
But underneath that layer of New York is a man who can do the job that this country needs done.
Eugene WR Gallun
I found New Yorkers ok, kind and polite, even those singling me out at Penn. Station asking for money. Maybe it was because I had my usual “Don’t bother me! Seriously!” face on. Could also be that Londoners, Melbournites and Sydneysiders are just the same and my skin is a bit thicker these days.
No! I am sure it was the face!
“From over on the UK side of the pond the 2016 US Presidential election is a bit of a mystery. What should we think?”
What you need to know is that the House of Representatives is supposed to control spending. And that the republicans with the help of John Boehner and Paul Ryan have facilitated almost everything the democrats have wanted, including raising the debt ceiling and getting the country into 19 trillion in national debt. They are standing by to fast track Obana/Clinton trade deals such as
TPP TTIP TiSA
It gives us very great pleasure to have the opportunity to elect a man who says that he will not sign these horribly crafted trade deals. He said in his acceptance speech for the nomination that he will make trade agreements with individual countries.
He uses Willis Carrier’s company as an example of what is happening to our businesses. Carrier has been encouraged by over-regulation, taxation and energy costs and NAFTA to move to Mexico. So the country where a farm kid who paid his way through engineering school with a laundry service and invented air conditioning and temp control is now heading to Mexico to make products there. This can’t be right, and even the Unions don’t like HIllary Clinton’s “ultimate dream of hemispheric open trade and open borders.” (h/t Wikileaks: Texts of Clinton Speeches to Banks)
Plus the added joy of seeing establishment republicans clutching their pearls and gasping about Donald J Trump. In particular, Jeb Bush, who is now actually supporting the Clintonistas.
That is a start.
“Plus the added joy of seeing establishment republicans clutching their pearls and gasping about Donald J Trump. In particular, Jeb Bush, who is now actually supporting the Clintonistas.”
Watching Elite and Leftist heads explode is my most fervent wish. Trump can make this happen! 🙂 It’s going to be fun if he wins. It’s going to be hell if he doesn’t.
If Trump does get elected, and appoints reasonable judges to the court, we will have the joy of watching the leftists elite’s (both Dimwits, and Repugnants) heads explode for the next 20-30 years.
I’m hoping to break out the popcorn for the show!!!
[but alas, I fear the People Magazine, Entertainment Tonight crowd are the majority, and they don’t share my enthusiasm]
It was supposed to be a foregone conclusion for the elitist American dynasties. The GOP was supposed to select Jeb Bush and the Dems put up Hillary as a front for Bill. Didn’t matter to them which of them won as the gravy train would just keep right on rolling home. What is another four years between friends? Hillary was going to play the “I’m a woman ” card and Jeb, “Mr trustworthy tough guy”. Everything should have gone to plan. Soros would be happy, as would Gates, Steyer, Buffet, Suzuki, Musk and Zuckerberg. Then along came Donald Trump and threw a spanner in the works. And now… Along come the American people….
Best of luck guys!
If I were American I would vote Trump just get all those luvvies who promised to leave the USA on the first boat out and to avoid being sexually assaulted by a 58 year old woman.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/10/19/madonna-vote-hillary-clinton-will-give-blowjb/
I’ve not been keeping up to date with this, remind me, which one is Kodos and which one is Kang?
Did anyone mention Josh’s drawing?
It took me a few seconds. Are there more? Thanks Josh.
http://www.frontporchgiftshop.com/animals/34513.jpg
Quite frankly today was a joy here in Australia because it was Melbourne Cup Day (Horse race where the whole country comes to a standstill, even New Zealand too)!! So there was almost no media coverage here of the US pantomime. YAY! Sick to death of it. Pro-Clinton media coverage “She didn’t do anything wrong with that e-mail server!” and bagging Trump all the way.
To my American friends in the Western hemisphere, vote wisely! As with Brexit in the UK, the result may have repercussions internationally.
Patrick MJD —
Your position on Brexit is unclear to me. To my American ears what you said can be taken either way. But here is my opinion of Brexit.
As far as Brexit goes none of that bad stuff that the aristocratic left swore would happen has happened. (Sounds sorta like what is said about climate change — nothing of which ever comes true. And sorta like climate change all the dire predictions have been moved a few years down the road.) They invented that stuff to frighten the poor dumb sheeple into voting “correctly”. (They should never even been allowed to vote on Brexit. Allowing the sheeple to vote is a mistake the aristocratic left will not make again.) The people of the UK voted wisely and gave themselves their self-governance back. And by doing so they have taken back their economy and will hereafter better their own lives.
Eugene WR Gallun
Not sure about aristocratic left but there has been an impact felt but…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-04/pound-tumbles-to-three-decade-low-as-angst-over-brexit-persists
And…
http://www.smh.com.au/world/amber-rudd-rules-out-australians-having-easier-immigration-to-uk-after-brexit-20161003-gru3ev.html
So while this is mostly speculation and words, there could be some effect.
Patrick MJD —
You apparently missed the “money line” at the end of the first article you suggested should be read —
“The market is unimpressed with the politicians being seemingly happy to trade single market access and support for financial services for total control of immigration and primacy of U.K. laws.”
“The market”, in this case, represents the aristocratic left who are realizing that their “skim” off the top which has been baked into the European system is about to disappear and there will be new ways of doing business. The drop in the pound has been small but promises more trade with the world outside Europe meaning more job growth inside the U.K. Let’s understand something — the aristocratic left is scared to death of the prosperity that dumping them and the European Union will cause. They are the ones who will not prosper under Brexit
The second article you suggest reading simply says that at the present moment under Brexit there are no plans to increase Australian immigration to the U.K. It also suggests that over time that will probably change.
I am a little confounded by what you deem significant about this? Are you worried that peoples with an English heritage and sharing the English language with replace Muslims immigrants who have no interest in assimilating into English culture and, indeed, want to make it Muslim? Are you worried that if people of English culture replace Muslims that there will not be enough female genital mutilations and honor killings on U.K. soil to prevent the rest of the world from calling the U.K. racist?
I am having a little fun here but, truly, I don’t get why you thought the second article significant.
Eugene WR Gallun
I’m rather shocked that CNN fired the biased talking head who passed the debate question to Hillary ahead of time. BTW, isn’t it time to call a Syrian truce ….in Chicago?
No country for old men…and politicos who are from there
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20161031/BLOGS02/161039991/state-gets-more-awful-news-from-teachers-retirement-system
This is a little more reading about the trade deals which Donald J Trump opposes, and which the progressive Republicans are trying to help Obama obtain:
On Sunday, June 14th, Hillary Clinton came out publicly for the first time in support of President Obama’s trade-deals — TPP with Asia, TTIP with Europe, and on TISA with all nations to lower the standards on banking and insurance and to privatize government services. What’s at issue in Congress right now — and thus what she was responding to — is whether or not to grant U.S. President Barack Obama the “Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority,” which will produce expedited passage for his trade-deals; the trade-deals themselves are not even before Congress yet, and have not even been made public, though the first one up for consideration will be TPP with Asia; but that deal, like the others, will virtually certainly go down to defeat unless the president first wins “Fast Track,” which is the issue now.
The reason “Fast Track” is the issue now before Congress, is that it’s actually the only feasible way for Obama to be able to win congressional passage of TPP or of any of his big-three trade-deals. It’s crucial because it reduces the Constitutionally required two-thirds of Senators voting for a given trade-deal, down to merely 50% of Senators (plus VP Joe Biden) needed to vote for it, in order for the deal to become U.S. law — and there is no way possible for this Senate to vote two-thirds for either TPP with Asia, TTIP with Europe, or TISA for “Services.” But 50% can safely be assured (especially with the gargantuan political-campaign donations that are pouring into Congress to back it). Clinton said that it’s so important for Obama to win Fast Track authority, that, “I am willing to try now to see whether you can push to get rid of the objectionable parts, to drive a harder bargain on some of the other parts,” so that Congress will grant the president Fast Track Trade promotion Authority. (Her underlying assumption, which she knows to be false, is that to “drive a harder bargain” is “a harder bargain” against foreign nations, not against the publics in both the U.S. and all nations. International corporations will benefit enormously. But Obama is not negotiating against them; he’s negotiating against the public, for the international corporations.)
Ref wikileaks, huffpo
These trade deals are what Donald J Trump took up in his campaign, and singlehandedly and successfully made into issues. No help from the Republican party. Very impressive.
That is a real bit of leadership, and I think he will follow through.
The above contained a full quote from
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1619#efmbR5b….I can’t type all that out right now. I will get that later.
Now headlines say the HIllary Clinton is now out campaigning to her base claiming that Donald J Trump is “sold out to the gun lobby.”
That is pretty breathtaking, coming from an arms dealer to the Middle East, at a time of multiple failed states and the spread of ISIS!
Now since Hillary Clinton has attempted to raise awareness about the problems with deplorable and irredeemable islamophobes in our country (who are supporting Donald J Trump),
I want to return the favor to her by proving that she isn’t an islamophobe:
1. Podesta emails show that his transition team wanted to be careful not to hire any Arabs that are Christian:
“Here are the compiled lists of Asian American and Muslim American
candidates for top Administration jobs, sub-cabinet jobs, and outside
boards/agencies/policy committees. A couple things to note about the list
of Muslim American candidates:
1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab
American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many
Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of
outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim
American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of
uncertain religion (esp. Christian).”
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/28660
inre: HIllary Clinton is not an islamophobe
2. EXCLUSIVE: Bill Clinton Got Millions From World’s Biggest Sharia Law Education Firm
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/03/exclusive-bill-clinton-got-millions-from-worlds-biggest-sharia-law-education-firm/#ixzz4Onci43fH
“Former President Bill Clinton collected $5.6 million in fees from GEMS Education, a Dubai-based company that teaches Sharia Law through its network of more than 100 schools in the Middle East, Asia and Africa, according to a Daily Caller News Foundation investigation.
The company’s finances strictly adhere to “Sharia Finance,” which includes giving “zakat,” a religious tax of which one-eighth of the proceeds is dedicated to funding Islamic jihad.
The company also contributed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.”
Still more proof that HRC is not an islamophobe:
2. EXCLUSIVE: Bill Clinton Got Millions From World’s Biggest Sharia Law Education Firm
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/03/exclusive-bill-clinton-got-millions-from-worlds-biggest-sharia-law-education-firm/#ixzz4Onci43fH
“Former President Bill Clinton collected $5.6 million in fees from GEMS Education, a Dubai-based company that teaches Sharia Law through its network of more than 100 schools in the Middle East, Asia and Africa, according to a Daily Caller News Foundation investigation.
The company’s finances strictly adhere to “Sharia Finance,” which includes giving “zakat,” a religious tax of which one-eighth of the proceeds is dedicated to funding Islamic jihad.
The company also contributed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.”
3. The fact that she sells arms to countries who arm ISIS
4. The fact that ISIS gained control of oil refineries and has filled the vacuum in several failed states while she was the Sec of State
5. I will let Donald J Trump explain the increase in Syrian migrants:
“Lastly, and very importantly we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. We don’t want them in our country.
My opponent has called for a radical 550 percent increase in Syrian, think of this, think of this, this is not believable but this is what is happening. A 550 percent increase in Syrian refugees on top of existing massive refugee flows coming into our country already under the leadership of President Obama.
She proposes this despite the fact that there’s no way to screen these refugees in order to find out who they are or where they come from. I only want to admit individuals into our country who will support our values and love our people.”
Moderator —
My erudite construct of deathless wisdom seems to have gone into limbo. This time i didn’t even use any bad words (not that there are any bad words but merely words used poorly in context).
Eugene WR Gallun
in fact in belgium we say this:
the USa election between hillary and trump is the downfall of democracy as now the usa has to choose between the pest or the cholera.
we even don’t get how Trump and hilary got even this final race as none of their debates actually had any real content about the future of a country….
sad very sad
note that there were candidates both republican or democrat with decent plans for the future, but they even didn’t got through the primary…
You can look now, this is the DailyMail! (:
‘I’ve never said what he said in my life!’ Trump blasts Hillary for appearing onstage with Jay-Z after the rapper drops F-bombs and N-words during concert rally – and draws a larger crowd all by himself!
Donald Trump clobbered Hillary Clinton on Saturday morning for appearing with Jay-Z in Cleveland
The rapper dropped one F-bomb and N-word after another, and then Hillary embraced him onstage
Clinton has been openly critical of Trump’s ‘tone’ and the ‘lewd’ language he has used in the past
‘I tell you what: I’ve never said what he said – in my life!’ Trump declared in Tampa, Florida
Clinton held her campaign rally with Jay-Z and Beyoncé, drawing 10,000 people with free tickets
Many of them exited before Clinton spoke, and Trump drew a larger crowd by himself in Pennsylvania
He told a crowd in the town of Hershey: ‘I’m here all by myself… No guitar, no piano, no nothing’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3908378/Trump-blasts-Hillary-Jay-Z-Beyonce-concert.html#ixzz4PBaHFn3d
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