From the AMERICAN THORACIC SOCIETY and the “consensus is the same as data” department comes this eyeroller of a claim that seems to confuse climate, real air pollution, and weather. It looks like they are trying to give a whole new meaning to “allergy season”. Of course, it comes from the same George Mason university that aided and abetted the Shukla scam, and soon will be bring 97% faker John Cook on board, so I don’t give much credence to it.
ATS international and US members agree climate change affects patient health
Survey results are published in the October issue of the Annals of the American Thoracic Society.
“The response from international physicians underscores that of American respondents who noted the impact of illness severity related to increases in pollution, specifically asthma, COPD, pneumonia and cardiovascular disease,” said John Balmes, MD, past Chair of the ATS Environmental Health Policy Committee and one of the study authors.
Respondents further noted the following as the most common health effects of climate change among their patients:
- Severity of chronic disease – 88 percent
- Increased allergic symptoms – 72 percent
- Heat-related effects – 70 percent
- Injuries due to severe weather – 69 percent
- Vector-borne infections – 59 percent
- Diarrhea from food/water-borne illnesses – 55 percent
The survey, which was conducted by the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University, polled 5,013 international members. The survey had a response rate of 9.8 percent and respondents represented 68 countries.
The survey results come on the heels of the DC District Court of Appeals’ hearing of oral arguments related to the US Environmental Protection Agency’s Clean Power Plan on September 27. ATS and several physician organizations jointly filed an amicus brief with the court arguing that climate change has negative consequences for patients’ health.
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It is worth noting that up until 2005, the medical community “consensus” was that stomach ulcers were from stress, smoking, bad diet, and other cause. It wasn’t until two people actually looked at autopsy data that they discovered the true cause. From a 2005 Discovery Magazine article, some familiar excerpts:
The medical elite thought they knew what caused ulcers and stomach cancer. But they were wrong—and did not want to hear the answer that was right.
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How did you get the word out about your discovery?
I presented that work at the annual meeting of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians in Perth. That was my first experience of people being totally skeptical. To gastroenterologists, the concept of a germ causing ulcers was like saying that the Earth is flat. After that I realized my paper was going to have difficulty being accepted. You think, “It’s science; it’s got to be accepted.” But it’s not an absolute given. The idea was too weird.
Then you and Robin Warren wrote letters to The Lancet.
Robin’s letter described the bacteria and the fact that they were quite common in people. My letter described the history of these bacteria over the past 100 years. We both knew that we were standing at the edge of a fantastic discovery. At the bottom of my letter I said the bacteria were candidates for the cause of ulcers and stomach cancer.
That letter must have provoked an uproar.
It didn’t. In fact, our letters were so weird that they almost didn’t get published. By then I was working at a hospital in Fremantle, biopsying every patient who came through the door. I was getting all these patients and couldn’t keep tabs on them, so I tapped all the drug companies to request research funding for a computer. They all wrote back saying how difficult times were and they didn’t have any research money. But they were making a billion dollars a year for the antacid drug Zantac and another billion for Tagamet. You could make a patient feel better by removing the acid. Treated, most patients didn’t die from their ulcer and didn’t need surgery, so it was worth $100 a month per patient, a hell of a lot of money in those days. In America in the 1980s, 2 to 4 percent of the population had Tagamet tablets in their pocket. There was no incentive to find a cure.
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The microbiologists in Brussels loved it, and by March of 1983 I was incredibly confident. During that year Robin and I wrote the full paper. But everything was rejected. Whenever we presented our stuff to gastroenterologists, we got the same campaign of negativism. I had this discovery that could undermine a $3 billion industry, not just the drugs but the entire field of endoscopy. Every gastroenterologist was doing 20 or 30 patients a week who might have ulcers, and 25 percent of them would. Because it was a recurring disease that you could never cure, the patients kept coming back. And here I was handing it on a platter to the infectious-disease guys.
Does this consensus protection sound familiar?
Read it here: http://discovermagazine.com/2010/mar/07-dr-drank-broth-gave-ulcer-solved-medical-mystery
Note: cartoon licensed from cartoonstock.com

Always knew climate alarmism would herald the return of the witch doctor. Break out the goat entrails and runes. Here they come.
ha ha
They “agreed”. And what does a body of respiratory practitioners know about climate in the first place apart from what they get fed by the media, like everyone else. The fact that they were even asked whether they agree exposes the bias in those running the survey.
Who was that, by the way ?
So it is not a medical faculty nor a science faculty, it is a “center for communication” about “climate change”, ie a politically oriented, PR group.
Not surprised that they had to publish in the “Anals of the American Thoracic Society.”
Well of course Climate Change is occuring, if it weren’t we would either be in the throws of a great glaciation or there would never have been Polar Ice Caps
But rest assured it was only 492 of the 5,013 surveyed so once again a relatively Small Sampling
There, fixed it for you.
Notice how many more acquiesce outside the US? “Hey, ve answer sure t’ing on this survey, and mebbe dey send us money becuz Climate Chenge! Vot’s to lose?”
9.8% response rate? It is very likely the true believers were the ones who bothered to respond.
OMB requires government agencies to show a strong likelihood of achieving a 75% response rate in any questionnaire they administer to the public. (In some of the studies that I led, requiring persons to wear a personal air quality monitor for 24-48 hours was considered enough of a burden to justify lowering the threshold response rate–still we generally achieved 60-80% rates.) No competent survey statistician would pay attention to a questionnaire that told you nothing about 90.2% of the target population.
Oh, but wait–this is George Mason “University” after all.
And let me see the motivated minority whackos by country-
“The survey, which was conducted by the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University, polled 5,013 international members. The survey had a response rate of 9.8 percent and respondents represented 68 countries.”
Well, that would be 492/68 countries or about 7 1/4 whackos per country. Lew’s papers probably have a statistically similar sampling
@ur momisugly Tom Hala, It is probably the same 9.8 % that drive the political agenda regarding “Social Justice, the lesbian/gay transgender/hermaphrodite/ not sure communities and others. The louder these minorities scream the more attention they get, the others? Too busy at work for their families.
I am certain that this world that I think that I am living in, is not real. It is a 1970’s tilted camera psychedelic trip. Let me out.
Kinda like when Batman and Robin faught King Tut and his thugs
WHACK
BOP
BIFF
So, all those Americans that retire and go to Florida should go to Alaska.
Excuse me (stupid Irishman)- what exactly is a thoracic?
Think Jurassic Park, only in Norway- you know, Thor.
No, Thor might actually have some knowledge of weather !
Unlike those who study how much hot air people are able to produce.
Didn’t you see the movie – Thoracic Park?
Nimble-fingered Alan beat me to it….
Thorax is chest above the diaghram. These are pulmonary physicians concerned with things like asthma and COPD. About 500 of whom internationally have swallowed Obama’s coolaid that climate change made Malia’s asthma worse. Nothing to do with his cigarette smoking around his daughter.
The region below your neck and above your waist.
Or a theme park full of Hipsaralsaurus’
Think upper torso, rib cage.
Sounds to me like most of those so called symptoms of climate change are likely due to changes in the way we live. Always indoors so when we do go outside allergens seem stronger. Always inside so we have little experience dealing with severe weather. Always inside with central air so we are less acclimated to the heat when we do go out in it. Always inside and less active, so chronic problems are worse simply because we aren’t fit. Not keeping fields, processing plants and kitchens clean so there are more water and food borne illnesses.
IN other words, common sense.
With a modest addition: 20 pounds overweight and less able to deal with heat, more likely to have chronic problems, more likely to weeze when they do go outside and confuse the shortness of breath of an allergic reaction
Quick! Someone remind me how many climate scientists the American Thoracic Society has in its’ ranks?
You meant “so-called climate scientists” or course.
Someone remind me how many “climate scientists” are real climate scientists, or “scientists” at all as judged by Richard Feynman (RIP) or one of his peers.
Well that would depend – if they agree with the consensus then all of them are official members of climate science™, if they disagree they are just another basket of deplorables. (do I really need /sarc?)
With a miniscule response rate of less than 10%, you are dealing with an extremely biased survet.
Surveys should never report the results of such a small segment of the target population. These researchers should have contacted those who didn’t respond, etc. But I sincerely doubt that any doctor
can see any changes in the short time span of his personal experience. Global warming has proceeded
very slowly with respect to man’s lifespan and they also cannot provide any plausible evidence that the small increase in heat of the planet has had any significant effect on health, and certainly cannot connect health issues to global warming when the climate condition causing the health issues cannot be correlate to global waming – extreme weather, for example.. A pathetically misleading study that provides no convincing evidence of anything.
Most of the respondents ( I see no claim or indication that they are all MDs ) probably recognised it as politically motived tripe and declined to waste their time. Those that did also recognised it was politically motived tripe and decide they wanted to “do their bit to save the planet”.
“Surveys should never report the results of such a small segment of the target population.”
Where does that leave prospective voter polls?
Where?
Up an anal creek without a paddle.
There seems to be some confusion about polls and surveys. A survey is administered to the ENTIRE population as described by certain characteristics such as those dealing with the thorax. Strictly speaking is any are not queried it is a poll. A poll requires a REPRESENTATIVE sample. Be skeptical.
ha ha , they wanna make more $ dough
So they asked 5000 people. 490 replied. An average of 7 people per country. Then they have used percentages. So 88 in 100 for example. During the average lifetime there has been no statistically significant change in the climate.
This is truly statistics’ finest hour.
But they asked 5000! Don’t you see if all 5000 of those specialists had responded it would have been a good sampling therefor since under 10% actually did respond we will report it with the robust authority, certainty, and scholastic solemnity the letterhead of George Mason University richly deserves!
If it isn’t the economics department George Mason has no reputation at all.
We are planting foreign species of plants, which attract new kinds of molds and mildews. We have more trees and plants than 100 years ago. We live inside in air conditioned space (as Myron points out above). But in the age of the climate religion, all things are caused by that climate change god….
I found it really interesting that less than half (44 percent) of the respondents from the U.S. agreed that climate was occurring, as compared with 69 percent of the international respondents. What happened to the 97 percent consensus?
It got Cooked.
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Of course none of the flaws in this study matter, so long as the headlines can be endlessly cited in the mainstream media. So looking forward to it.
All this from what, maybe a 1 degree C warming since 1850??? Just when I thought the climate scam couldn’t possibly get any sillier. And we thought witch doctors were a dying breed…I must go now and make sacrifice to gods.
But climate was perfect when we could have frost festivals on the frozen Thames and the frozen canals on the continent. That evil 1 degree C increase ended the joy of collecting frozen corpses from the poorer portions of our great cities. Think of the poor unemployed body collectors! How could we so selfishly bask in this warmer, less deadly clime?! Think of the great literature that colder clime inspired! Without the bitter little-ice-age cold, we wouldn’t have such stories as Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Little Match Girl” – such a hopeful vision of the future that. ( sorry the sarcasm got a little thick there)
Owen
We could start a list of little ice age inspired literature:
A Christmas Carol
War and Peace
Hound of the Baskervilles
Nallo and Patras
Any others?
. . Hmm . . might be of interest to the Hellary campaign staff . .
“A survey of international members of the American Thoracic Society (ATS) found that 96 percent of respondents agreed that climate change is occurring ”
Utter rubbish, we all KNOW it’s 97% , they must have done it all wrong.
I believe in climate related illness.
I’m sick of all the climate change nonsense.
Just add it to Obamacare as more mandatory coverage. The extra premium inflation on top of what is already happening might push the timeline of getting to single payer a little faster than originally planned at stage three of the overreach game plan.
http://www.thoracic.org/about/overview.php
And now Climate Change.
Now that’s funny
Let’s not be too harsh on ATS. 90% (4522 of 5013members) had such a low concern about climate that they didn’t even bother with the survey. As someone with latent TB for over 40 years I am glad most of them are not wasting their time on this foolishness.
That’s 90.20546% if you don’t mind squire.
That’s way too many significant digits. I’m not a statistician but I suspect that for this particular study one significant digit would be too many. 🙂
significant digits
https://www.gapminder.org/ignorance/
Stephen Skinner on October 10, 2016 at 12:58 pm
https://www.gapminder.org/ignorance/
Great – thx for the link!
Hey, wait a minute. I’ve got the basic level of EMT Certification, I’m esteemed member of one of the finest volunteer first-response-search-rescue organizations in the U.S., we’ve been cited by the U.S. Coast Guard, the Michigan State Police, the National Park Service and the AMA for exemplary performance. I just realized we get about 3 times as many complaints about breathing problems in the cold months than we do in the warm months… the ATS should welcome global de-chilling.
I have COPD and cold dry air is harder for me to breathe than warm moist air.
It is quite clear that, people involved in conducting the survey do not understand the difference between weather and climate. They are confused weather as climate change. It is a fact that weather influences the patients and health. We all know there are several seasonal diseases over different parts of the globe. Particularly bronchites Asthma.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
That’s the ‘weather’ as in, ‘whether or not I’m going to get a grant for my next study.’
One thing the medical system needs for a long and prosperous future is SICK people . Chronic illness is the road paved with gold. Back in the 70’s the cure for cancer was only 5-10 years away But the reality is it’s still a dangling carrot they use to generate funds for more research . This type of pollution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7E36zGHxRw will make sure the drug dealing medicos have a prosperous future.
Wait. Are they sure it’s climate change and not witches? You can’t burn or hang climate change.
You burn or hang the deniers. Back in the day most witches were condemned as heretics.
Well first I guess we’ll need to find a duck…