Bill McKibben Goes Full Jackboot on Climate Change

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Bill McKibben wants the world to wage war against Climate Change, by giving governments full wartime powers to seize private property and coerce businesses into supporting the effort, and with strict government control of the economy.

A WORLD at WAR

We’re under attack from climate change—and our only hope is to mobilize like we did in WWII.

BY BILL MCKIBBEN

August 15, 2016

In the North this summer, a devastating offensive is underway. Enemy forces have seized huge swaths of territory; with each passing week, another 22,000 square miles of Arctic ice disappears. Experts dispatched to the battlefield in July saw little cause for hope, especially since this siege is one of the oldest fronts in the war. “In 30 years, the area has shrunk approximately by half,” said a scientist who examined the onslaught. “There doesn’t seem anything able to stop this.”

World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.

To make the Stanford plan work, you would need to build a hell of a lot of factories to turn out thousands of acres of solar panels, and wind turbines the length of football fields, and millions and millions of electric cars and buses. But here again, experts have already begun to crunch the numbers. Tom Solomon, a retired engineer who oversaw the construction of one of the largest factories built in recent years—Intel’s mammoth Rio Rancho semiconductor plant in New Mexico—took Jacobson’s research and calculated how much clean energy America would need to produce by 2050 to completely replace fossil fuels. The answer: 6,448 gigawatts.

“It was public capital that built most of the stuff, not Wall Street,” says Wilson. “And at the top level of logistics and supply-chain management, the military was the boss. They placed the contracts, they moved the stuff around.” The feds acted aggressively—they would cancel contracts as war needs changed, tossing factories full of people abruptly out of work. If firms refused to take direction, FDR ordered many of them seized. Though companies made money, there was little in the way of profiteering—bad memories from World War I, Wilson says, led to “robust profit controls,” which were mostly accepted by America’s industrial tycoons. In many cases, federal authorities purposely set up competition between public operations and private factories: The Portsmouth Naval Shipyard built submarines, but so did Electric Boat of Groton, Connecticut. “They were both quite impressive and productive,” Wilson says.

“Usually, when people from different worlds are dealing with each other, they get into conflicts and then dig in their heels deeper,” Berk says. “But because the stakes are so high and it’s moving so fast, no one doubts that if you don’t get a handle on this battle in the Atlantic, then the immediate consequences will be really grave. So they’re willing to do this kind of pragmatic trial and error. They start to see that ‘I can’t dig in my heels–I need this other person to learn from.’” In the face of a common enemy, Americans worked together in a way they never had before.

Read more: https://newrepublic.com/article/135684/declare-war-climate-change-mobilize-wwii

The McKibben post is well worth reading in full, amongst other things it contains interesting reflections about the climate policies of current US presidential candidates.

Leaving aside the question of whether renewables can replace fossil fuels (according to top Google engineers, they can’t), think about what a grim world McKibben wants to create.

The government would have unconstrained power to seize private property, and direct business people to work for the government for whatever “profit” the government decided was fair, on pain of having their assets forcibly removed and handed to someone else.

McKibben handily skirts around how he would deal with non business people, political opponents who object to or obstruct his war on climate, but it seems pretty obvious what would happen, if wartime history is any guide. A government willing to seize property and treat productive people as slaves simply wouldn’t tolerate opposition. At the very least public opposition to government policy would lead to long term internment – incarceration without due process.

Worst of all, McKibben’s war would never end. McKibben actually laments that control of the economy was handed back to private individuals after WW2.

That attitude quickly reset after the war, of course; solidarity gave way to the biggest boom in personal consumption the world had ever seen, as car-packed suburbs sprawled from every city and women were retired to the kitchen. Business, eager to redeem its isolationist image and shake off New Deal restrictions, sold itself as the hero of the war effort, patriotic industrialists who had overcome mountains of government red tape to get the job done. And the modest “operations researchers,” who had entered and learned from the real world when they managed radar development during the war, retreated to their ivory towers and became much grander “systems analysts” once the conflict ended. Robert McNamara, a former Ford executive, brought an entire wing of the Rand Corporation to the Defense Department during the Kennedy administration, where the think-tank experts promptly privatized most of the government shipyards and plane factories, and used their out-of-touch computer models to screw up government programs like Model Cities, the ambitious attempt at urban rehabilitation during the War on Poverty. “The systems analysts completely took over,” Berk says, “and the program largely failed for that reason.”

Read more: Same link as above

If I had written a post anywhere near as outrageous as McKibben’s jingoistic demand for a war on climate, his demand for wholesale surrender of liberty and property rights to government, I would be called a fascist. But because McKibben is a green, he gets a free pass from mainstream media to demand the unthinkable.

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Pat Kelly
August 21, 2016 8:27 am

There’s many reasons why Bill McKibben’s plan won’t work, but the biggest two reasons are: China and Russia.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Pat Kelly
August 21, 2016 11:17 am

One more: sanity!

Paul Westhaver
August 21, 2016 8:28 am

I’ve been following this Extinction Level Event nonsense for 16 or more years now. I have heard “We must act now or we will all die” Sooooooo many times that I forget the full catalogue of doom that we are now supposed to be enduring, since it so vast.
I am sure Anthony has a running list of Doom Dates and we’ve past them… (not the UN -revised to keep it going list) … so what bee got in McKibben’s bonnet on Aug 15th?

R. Shearer
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
August 21, 2016 8:35 am

It’s too late. About 90%of us died from starvation in the 1990’s.

Paul Coppin
Reply to  R. Shearer
August 21, 2016 9:42 am

And the remaining 10% burnt up in the spate of AGW…

Tom Halla
Reply to  R. Shearer
August 21, 2016 11:58 am

Noo, according to Paul Ehrlich, I died of starvation in the 1980’s. This is being written by a ghost.:-)

AllyKat
Reply to  R. Shearer
August 21, 2016 9:27 pm

I was dissolved by acid rain in the 1990s. Fortunately, I had already suffocated because “we” cut down the rainforests. Prior to suffocation (or was it after?), I was burnt to a crisp by the sun because the ozone layer was destroyed by too much Aquanet.
If only I had listened to my betters and denounced my parents while demanding they send all their money to the doomsayers. If only my parents had protected me by not having me…
…I would not be around to notice that just about every doom and gloom prophecy made in the last few decades has not been fulfilled. Or that all those different “problems” have the exact same proposed solution, which will not actually “solve” the “problem”, but will cause new ones. Or that the solution enriches the doomsayers. Or that the doomsayers are not actually subject to their proposed changes. Or…

R. Shearer
August 21, 2016 8:30 am

Meanwhile, Hilliary flies 20 miles and back from Nantucket to Martha’s Vineyard, on a private jet of course, for a $100,000 a head fundraiser.

yam
August 21, 2016 8:39 am

“Everything for the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
A Benito Award for McKibben.

Mark from the Midwest
August 21, 2016 8:47 am

… “FDR ordered many of them seized.” ????
What alternative history does McKibbles believe in. Wartime powers don’t give the Federal Government the right to sieze private property, at best it enables expedited due process. But it’s still, legally, a “taking” and requires fair market compensation. During WWII most corporations were more than happy to do their patriotic duty, it was good business. Ford Motor, General Dynamics, (Electric Boat), and North American Aviation, (Rockwell Aerospace), all grew at enormous rates during WWII. And it was the war, more than anything from the New Deal that finally pulled the U.S. out of depression.
The other problem with McKibbles idea is that war time efforts are aimed at “making stuff”, not “not making stuff.” There;s a big difference.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
August 21, 2016 8:59 am

This administration regularly violates the Constitution’s Takings Clause via EPA judgements against private use of private land and via any and all bureaucratic means available through other agencies, most commonly, the Bureau of Land Management. In fairness, it isn’t just within this administration’s guidance that the various bureaucracies subvert Constitutional processes, although the current admin. has exaerbated and refined unconstitutional government action through a long series of Executive orders.

Tsk Tsk
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
August 21, 2016 10:24 am

Repeat after me: Wars do not cure depressions. It is NEVER good economics to blow up perfectly serviceable capital and people.

Bartemis
Reply to  Tsk Tsk
August 21, 2016 11:52 am

Indeed. The war employed people, but goods were rationed, and it could in no way have been called prosperity. When it ended, the economy sank back down. Fortunately, many of the crackpot New Deal policies had been suspended for the war, and Truman was unable to get them reinstituted. Once his “Fair Deal” was soundly defeated, the economy started back up again, this time for real.

MarkW
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
August 22, 2016 7:27 am

It wasn’t the war so much as it was FDR abandoning the thousands of pages of regulations that had been put in place in order to “solve” the Great Depression, that got the US out of the Great Depression.
It was necessary to dump these regulations in order to free up businesses so that they could make the stuff needed to win the war.

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
August 27, 2016 11:43 am

Correction: It was productivity instead of New Deal meddling that eliminated the Depression. You can’t make prosperity by building weapons, you only protect it with them.
Richard Salsman and others have chronicled how government policies created the Great Depression and prolonged it. Read Breaking the Banks regarding government forcing of credit (which also caused the Recession of 2008) and The Capitalist Manifesto for a broad look at what individual freedom supported by defense and justice systems does for humans.
McKibben is of course the opposite, a collectivist heavily of the Marxist flavour.

Allan MacRae
August 21, 2016 8:48 am

Bill McKibben is a Groucho Marxist.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/19/climate-philosopher-demands-a-tax-on-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2281977
Marxists come in many packages with many labels – for example:
Trotskyites, Leninists, Maoists, Stalinists, Shachtmanites, etc.
When I was at McGill in the 1960’s. there were about a dozen different Marxist groups – so many that their group names were extremely long – just to differentiate them.
In general, we observed that they fit into two groups:
1. The make-love-not-war, dope-smoking Harpo Marxists,
and
2. The nasty, angry, violent Groucho Marxists.
Most climate alarmists have embraced a Harpo Marxist approach and a few are Groucho Marxists – they just do not realize it – they think they are “Progressives”.
Regards, Allan 🙂

markl
Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 21, 2016 8:53 am

Well put. I’m going to steal this:-)

Barbara
Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 21, 2016 11:10 am

GOOD COP/BAD COP
Environmental NGOs and Their Strategies Toward Business
Chapter 2: “Who Is Part Of the Environmental Movement”
This Chapter is about how the Environmental Movement is involved in business affairs/company affairs.
Has diagrams of environmental networks. Such information as interlocking boards and foundations.
Helps to explain how this whole affair works and who’s involved.
http://www.erb.umich.edu/Research/Faculty-Research/2010goodcop_badcop_hoffman.pdf
Well worth reading.

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
August 21, 2016 1:08 pm

SAGE journals
“The Varied Work of Challenger Movements: Identifying Challenger Roles in the U.S. Environmental Movement”
Abstract:
“Adopting a mixed method approach, we explore the heterogeneous nature of the work undertaken by challengers in the U.S. environmental movement.”
Article is pay-walled.
http://www.sagepub.com or internet search using article title.
Canadians are involved in this as well and there is more information on this subject on the internet.
“Challengers” must be the new name for this kind of activity.

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 22, 2016 10:35 am

Allan MacRae —
Groucho Marxists and Harpo Marxists!!!!!!! I missed that. Thank you for repeating it. I will keep that close to my funny bone.
Eugene WR Gallun

Alan Robertson
August 21, 2016 8:52 am

Bill McKibben is another of the climate darlings which NPR (gov’t. radio) regularly interviews or references as an expert on climate matters, along with such notable voices as George Monbiot and Gavin Schmidt.

John W. Garrett
August 21, 2016 8:54 am

The guy really is a fruitcake. He reminds me of Rasputin.
What I don’t understand is how he’s managed to control the Rockefeller heirs. They really ought to know better.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  John W. Garrett
August 21, 2016 9:18 am

One does not become more wise and enlightened by becoming ever more deeply embedded into the elite classes. Instead, one becomes more distant from the wider range of human thought and condition. The dark lenses through which the born elites gaze, become ever darker, mirrored, reflecting only their own thinking and that which they perceive will continue and maintain their wealth and control, as well as their status and acceptance within their peerage.
The elite classes recognize McKibben for what he is and have pegged him as useful. Thus, he is given a public voice and touted as an expert, prompting this conversation.

Bartemis
Reply to  John W. Garrett
August 21, 2016 11:58 am

The heirs often take their good fortune for granted, and have no idea how to generate wealth. Rags to riches to rags in the third generation is the standard formulation. Perhaps the Rockefeller fortune was so immense, its heirs have made it to the fourth.

Barbara
Reply to  John W. Garrett
August 21, 2016 7:37 pm

Check out Steven C. Rockefeller & Bill McKibben. Maybe more Rockefeller than McKibben. Then checkout Rockefeller & Maurice Strong.

ralfellis
Reply to  John W. Garrett
August 22, 2016 6:55 am

The guy really is a fruitcake. He reminds me of Rasputin.
What I don’t understand is how he’s managed to control the Rockefeller heirs.
_______________________________
The same way that Rasputin got into and controlled the Romanovs. He told them what they wanted to hear (especially the regina), and he said it so convincingly she thought he was a mystic or prophet.
R

Allan MacRae
August 21, 2016 8:55 am

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/15/paul-krugman-explains-how-to-break-the-climate-policy-deadlock/comment-page-1/#comment-2279509
[excerpt]
The global warming alarmists have been consistently wrong, since none of their scary predictions have materialized. The warmists have perfect negative credibility to date.
Furthermore, that is ample evidence of unethical conduct by the warmists in the Climategate emails, the Mann hockey stick fiasco, the temperature data revisions, etc.
The climate skeptics have a much better predictive track record – below is our example from 2002. Our predictions were certainly “surprising” for that time and certainly “high-risk” – our co-author Dr. Sallie Baliunas was forced out of Harvard, allegedly by the current US President’s Chief Scientific Advisor and others – a shameful act and a great loss to the scientific community.
Regards to all, Allan MacRae, P. Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/12/the-moral-case-for-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-2277431
[excerpt]
IN SUMMARY:
All the above predictions that we made in 2002 have proven correct in those states that fully adopted the Kyoto Accord, whereas none of the global warming alarmists’ scary warming projections have materialized.

KevinK
August 21, 2016 8:56 am

As the son of a WWII veteran and the nephew of 5 WWII veterans I am appalled at how this loon compares his belief that he can wage war against the climate to all the sacrifices and suffering from WWII.
Complete lunacy.
Does he not realize that building all of the infrastructure to replace all of the carbon based energy would require massive use of even more carbon based energy ?
Concrete and rebar require massive amounts of energy to produce, you could not possibly install enough “carbon free” energy fast enough to even produce all the needed materials to make more “carbon free” factories.
The Solar City factory in Buffalo is powered by the electrical grid. It cannot even power itself.
With loons like this fighting this “war” we may as well declare victory already and pat each other on the back and call it a day.
There is no need for this “war on climate”, and it most certainly cannot be won, even if we shoot all the disbelievers and force the survivors to do “exactly as McKibben” says.
Somebody should look into some mental health care for Mr. McKibben, seems he has a bad case of Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Cheers, KevinK

The Original Mike M
Reply to  KevinK
August 21, 2016 9:05 am

Or maybe “Self Inflicted Stress Disorder”?

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  The Original Mike M
August 22, 2016 10:44 am

The Original Mike M — “Self Inflicted Stress Disorder” Too good, just too good! Hahahahaha! — Eugene WR Gallun

Reply to  The Original Mike M
August 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Love it! 🙂

Allan MacRae
August 21, 2016 8:57 am

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/21/the-economic-impact-of-greenhouse-gas-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-2220950
[excerpt]
Fossil fuels have delivered humanity from the worst forms of poverty and slavery.
Now, warmist scoundrels and imbeciles want to deny the benefits of cheap fossil fuel energy to the poorest of humankind, and drive the rest of us backwards into energy poverty. What the warmists are advocating is not only wrong, it is harmful and it is evil.
Cheap, abundant reliable energy is the lifeblood of humanity – it IS that simple!
Best regards, Allan MacRae, P.Eng.

FJ Shepherd
August 21, 2016 9:01 am

The first casualty of war is truth. Somehow, truth became a casualty long before this war was declared.

H.R.
August 21, 2016 9:02 am

Whew! “Weepy” Bill looks sure looks different in that picture. Oh! He shaved off the ‘toothbrush’ mustache. That’s what it is.

Wolfman
August 21, 2016 9:03 am

Elites believe in rule by the enlightened, like them. Free markets, true free expression, and personal freedom are always considered suspect by them. Fascism and socialism share a lot with feudalism. Kings and Lords are now politicians, and the new clergy are the technology elites–but both have abandoned the scientific, economic and governmental principles that created the modern world. Now, the gradual move toward more equality and shared prosperity 4will be replaced by a desire to impose their “enlightened” vision.

The Original Mike M
August 21, 2016 9:03 am

McKibben is really just an anachronism, he would have fit in perfectly about 90 years ago as say a trusted political advisor … for Stalin.

Editor
August 21, 2016 9:04 am

with each passing week, another 22,000 square miles of Arctic ice disappears
It’s called summer

tomwys1
Reply to  Paul Homewood
August 21, 2016 9:12 am

Come October, with each passing week, another 22,000 square miles of Arctic ice re-appears.

Reply to  tomwys1
August 21, 2016 10:26 am

Ah, but that is only a tactical retreat to fool us and all the better crush us again next spring.

RBom
August 21, 2016 9:05 am

Guess 6448.org will replace 350.org and continue McKibben’s ponzi scheme.

John
August 21, 2016 9:11 am

He has lost it. Totally. Period.

Johann Wundersamer
August 21, 2016 9:12 am

“It was public capital that built most of the stuff, not Wall Street,” says it all: ‘renewables’ will never fulfill the task and will never pay of.
A costly burden.

arthur4563
August 21, 2016 9:14 am

The general delusion here is that FDR’s wartime controls were absolute – they were not, and the hilarious claim that govt run production was efficient. It was those govt folks who designed the worst weapons we built during the war – the Sherman tank was a disaster and the bazooka, amongst other weapons from govt labs, was also a disaster. Warplanes, on trhe other hand, were designed and built by airplane manufacturers, not govt beaurocrats, and they dominated the skies within a few years, despite the giant lead the Japanese and Germans had in building planes. And the torpedoes from those folks at the Groton works were terrible. The biggest advantage our ground troops had was their mobility – provided by trucks and jeeps, which didn’t require any help from FDR or his incompetent wartime folks. Actually, FDR’s govt did little aside from decreeing which articles were to be produced. These decrees were not seen as
“controlling” an economy but rather as a temporary necessity, and the public widely supported such alterations in the products produced. Of course, such changes would have become much less popular if the war had lasted longer, since an enormous number of consumer goods was unavailable or in short during the war – everything from gasoline to auto parts, cars were not available, nor stoves nor refridgerators, nor much in the way of consumer hardware.
But, of course, McKibben’s biggest idiocy is his idea of what is required – windmills and solar panels are a really dopey method of producing low carbon power. Nuclear power, especially with the imminent production of molten salt reactors, capable of being built in factories and quickly deployed and costing a fraction of current nuclear power and a very small fraction of wind power, would be the method chosen by those without the enormous ignorance of a McKibben. McKibben is criticized for being a fraud with respect to climate change, but he’s a bigger fool when it comes to his proposed
solutions.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  arthur4563
August 21, 2016 9:24 am

“Nuclear power, especially with the imminent production of molten salt reactors…”
———————-
Still vaporgear, at this point.

Reply to  Alan Robertson
August 21, 2016 12:28 pm

Alan, remarkably it’s only “vaporgear” because the technology has been blocked by politicians.
Study the Galena Alaska project, a 10mW “nuclear battery” that should have become operational 3 years ago, but was sidelined for unspecified regulatory reasons. Gen IV technology is ready to deploy. Now.

Gamecock
Reply to  Alan Robertson
August 21, 2016 6:57 pm

They have been imminent for 60 years.

skorrent1
Reply to  arthur4563
August 22, 2016 11:50 am

How idiotic of him to claim that “out-of-touch computer models … screw up government programs” and not realize what is going on now. How much more out-of-touch can climate models be?

Logos_wrench
August 21, 2016 9:21 am

And all the “deniers” need to be put into concentration camps. Again just like WWII. What is wrong with these nutballs. If anything disproves the liberal fallacy that poverty and education is the problem,it is people like this.

StarkNakedTruth
Reply to  Logos_wrench
August 22, 2016 1:55 pm

“…And all the deniers need to be put into concentration camps.”
I’m surprised McKibbon isn’t calling for deniers to be burned at the stake.
Oh wait…massive amounts of CO2 released into the atmosphere. Never mind.

ScienceABC123
August 21, 2016 9:22 am

Typical progressive/leftist rant – “People won’t do what I want, so the government should force them to!”

Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2016 9:27 am

Bill seriously needs to stop guzzling the Greenie Koolade, and chillax. I mean, he could give himself a heart attack or stroke or something, and die.
Then who would we laugh at?

Javert Chip
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2016 10:53 am

England’s Prince Charles.
God save the queen…please!

DredNicolson
Reply to  Javert Chip
August 28, 2016 10:56 am

God save the queen; the prince is on his own.

Markon
August 21, 2016 9:31 am

“At the very least public opposition to government policy would lead to long term internment – incarceration without due process.”
In Canada I envisioned this scenario and named it Suzukulag, after big green supporter David Suzuki, a supposed scientist who lies for the CBC propaganda mill and who has a history of scaring children with terrifying tales of a “man caused” global warming apocalypse. This embarrassment wants to jail global warming dissenters while he maintains several multi-million dollar properties.
The Green Reaper is sharpening it’s scythe. The ban on DDT, and the consequential death of 50 million or so, is nothing but a warm up act.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Markon
August 21, 2016 10:24 am

Screwzuki’s parents or grandparents were interned during WW2, I think, so he’s just trying to get his revenge on western white man’s society.

Retired Kit P
Reply to  Markon
August 21, 2016 11:06 am

DDT is still being produced for malaria control.

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Retired Kit P
August 22, 2016 10:53 am

it should be allowed in the US for bed bug control — an epidemic already. In Portland, Or. one fears to ride the trolley or sit in the public library for fear of picking them up. It has gotten that bad.
Eugene WR Gallun

skorrent1
Reply to  Retired Kit P
August 22, 2016 11:59 am

It’s true that after DDT was banned as too dangerous to use in America, it was still available for export. What a wonderful ad for both the product and the US. “America won’t use that poison on themselves, but they’ll ship it here to kill you!”

MarkW
Reply to  Retired Kit P
August 22, 2016 12:19 pm

I’ve been wondering how long until the residents of Miami start demanding it be allowed down there.

MarkW
Reply to  Retired Kit P
August 22, 2016 2:37 pm

skorrent1: It was available for export, however US foreign aid was often made contingent on the country receiving the aid, banning DDT.

August 21, 2016 9:40 am

Take a good look at McKibben there, voters
That is your tax dollars at work. Courtesy of the EPA and a few other agencies along with leftist foundations that keep McKibben well funded.
Want more of your money going to McKibben and other anti-American fascists? Vote Democrat.
Want to see if McKibben and his kind plan on a “night of the long knives”? Vote Democrat.
McKibben is hyper-activist fervent enough to fill the hobnail shoes of historical downright zealous fascists.