The Tangled Web of Global Warming Activism

Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Sir Walter Scott (1771-1832) wrote,

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!”

There were several actions required to create the tangled web of deception relating to the claim that human-produced CO2 caused global warming. It involved creating smaller deceptions to control the narrative that instead of creating well-woven cloth became the tangled web. The weavers needed control of the political, scientific, economic inputs, as well as the final message to the politicians to turn total attention on CO2.

Their problem was the overarching need for scientific justification, because science, if practiced properly, inherently precludes control. Properly, you go where the science takes you, by disproving the hypothesis. However, before the planners could get to the science, they had to establish the political framework.

The framework was built around the need to prove the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis (AGW), which held that global warming was inevitable. The assumptions, required of any hypothesis, were that;

· CO2 was a greenhouse gas that slowed the rate of heat escape from the atmosphere.

· An increase in CO2 would cause a global temperature increase,

· Atmospheric CO2 would increase because of human activity,

· Industrial development achieved by burning fossil fuels was the major source of human CO2, production

· Industrial development would increase,

· Temperature increase was inevitable in a ‘business as usual’ world.

Politics

Maurice Strong orchestrated most of the early action because he knew how to set up the bureaucratic structure necessary to control the politics and science. Neil Hrab wrote in 2001 that Strong achieved this by:

Mainly using his prodigious skills as a networker. Over a lifetime of mixing private sector career success with stints in government and international groups…

He began with the 1977 United Nations Conference on the Human Environment Stockholm Conference. As Hrab explained:

The three specific goals set out by the Secretary General of the Conference, Maurice F. Strong, at its first plenary session—a Declaration on the human environment, an Action Plan, and an organizational structure supported by a World Environment Fund—were all adopted by the Conference.

From there Strong created the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) with two main streams that provided the Political faction and the Scientific faction (Figure 1).

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Figure 1

The overall objectives of Agenda 21 (details here: https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21 ) are masked in platitudes and the moral high ground of saving the planet, but the reality is to use the environment in general as the basis for a political agenda. As Elaine Dewar explained in her book, Cloak of Green:

Strong was using the U.N. as a platform to sell a global environment crisis and the Global Governance Agenda.

It is part of the move to total government control that people voted against in the Brexit.

At the political level, they saw the need is for broad, malleable policies. For example, the precautionary principle is the standard fall-back position of environmentalists – shouldn’t we act regardless. This is built into Agenda 21 as Principle 15.

In order to protect the environment, the precautionary approach shall be widely applied by States according to their capabilities. Where there are threats of serious or irreversible damage, lack of full scientific certainty shall not be used as a reason for postponing cost-effective measures to prevent environmental degradation.

Source: http://www.un.org/documents/ga/conf151/aconf15126-1annex1.htm

They make all the decisions.

· determine which states are capable,

· when a threat is serious,

· when a threat is irreversible,

· what is “full scientific certainty”

· when it is used as a reason for acting

· when it is used as a reason for not acting.

Science

The next political objective was to narrow the science to CO2. This was achieved by limiting the scientific target through a definition of climate change produced by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). This eliminated almost all natural causes of climate and climate change for a predetermined result.

“a change of climate which is attributed directly or indirectly to human activity that alters the composition of the global atmosphere and which is in addition to natural climate variability observed over considerable time periods.”

This definition allowed the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to limit 100 percent of so-called greenhouse gases (GHG) to the four (4) percent that is CO2.

The IPCC tell people they do not do research; they just gather facts. However, this is part of the public deception because they leave people to believe they are studying all the facts and doing research, otherwise why would they make predictions. Instead, they gather a few selected facts and put them in a computer model constructed to produce a predetermined result. As Henri Poincare said,

“Science is built of facts the way a house is built of bricks; but an accumulation of facts is no more science than a pile of bricks is a house.”

They didn’t heed Thomas Huxley’s advice.

Sit down before facts as a little child, be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature leads, or you shall learn nothing.”

The IPCC sits down before facts with notions totally preconceived and restricted by the definition of climate change and the political agenda. The IPCC is divide into Working Group I (WGI) that produces the scientific evidence achieved using a predetermined outcome system. As Steve McIntyre pointed out the ‘hockey stick’ formula that produced the paleoclimate record necessary, produced a ‘hockey stick’ even if the input was random numbers. The computer models are the only place in the world where a CO2 increase causes a temperature increase.

The WGI ‘proof’ that an increase of human CO2 was almost without question causing a temperature increase became the sole basis for the Impact, Adaptation and Vulnerability Studies of Working Group II (WGII). Again there was a bias to produce a predetermined result was implemented. They only examine the costs but never the benefits. The British government commissioned the Stern Review, which was designed to reinforce and exaggerate the negative impacts. It did this by saying there was no hope unless you accept the entire science and act immediately and extensively.

The findings of WGII became the basis for the recommendations in the Mitigation Report of Working Group III (WGIII). Ottar Edenhofer, co-chair of WGIII from 2008 to 2015, explains the real objective.

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy,” “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.”

And that requires constant focus on CO2.

Economics

From the first report in 1990, IPCC predictions were wrong. It quickly endangered the objective of blaming CO2 and required a different more controlled approach. The response was to change from predictions based on climate variables to creating projections that put CO2 at the center. Economist David Henderson, who provided the earliest and best analysis of IPCC economics explained.

At the beginning, projections of global warming are largely based on projected atmospheric concentrations of CO2, which in turn are based on the projections of CO2 emissions which emerge from the SRES; and the emissions figures themselves are linked to SRES projections of world output, world energy use, and the carbon-intensity of different energy sources. In these latter projections economic factors are central.

In 2003 he published an article with Ian Castles titled “Economics, Emissions Scenarios and the work of the IPCC. They wrote,

‘That they have so far held aloof, and left the handling of economic issues in the IPCC process to others, is surprising as well as unfortunate. An article in The Economist (15 February 2003) that commented on our critique noted that, in relation to issues of climate change policy, “vast sums are at stake”. Yet the questionable treatment of economic issues in … the IPCC’s Third Assessment Report, which as independent outsiders we have drawn attention to in this and our previous article, seems not to have been noticed by a single official in a single finance or economics ministry in a single country.

This comment shows the IPCC realized that scientists and researchers outside of climate studies were asking questions about the validity of their work. It appears they avoided economists because they knew they would not produce the results they wanted. This parallels the criticism of the Wegman Report concerning the use of statisticians

With clinical trials for drugs and devices to be approved for human use by the FDA, review and consultation with statisticians is expected. Indeed, it is standard practice to include statisticians in the application-for-approval process. We judge this to be a good policy when public health and also when substantial amounts of monies are involved, for example, when there are major policy decisions to be made based on statistical assessments. In such cases, evaluation by statisticians should be standard practice. This evaluation phase should be a mandatory part of all grant applications and funded accordingly.

The IPCC decided that the SRES was problematic but only because it was exposed by economists. They acknowledged the problem and brought in a replacement called Representative Concentration Pathways (RCPs). It didn’t change anything because it guaranteed what they wanted namely that human CO2 production would increase. A recent article by David Middleton titled, “Part Deux: “The stuff nightmares are made fromreferences earlier studies by Judith Curry and others about the shallowness of the entire project. As one commentator explained

These RCP’s are used by policymakers to decide what actions are required to sustain a safe climate for our own and future generations. The information they are using, presented by the IPCC, is nothing more than science fiction.

Each year the amount of human produced CO2 increases, and while it may be true, the amount is controlled by the IPCC. They produce the annual estimates of anthropogenic CO2 using inventory guidelines. Here is how they describe the inventory Guidelines including human CO2 production.

How does the IPCC produce its inventory Guidelines?

Utilising IPCC procedures, nominated experts from around the world draft the reports that are then extensively reviewed twice before approval by the IPCC. This process ensures that the widest possible range of views are incorporated into the documents. See http://www.ipcc-nggip.iges.or.jp/ for full details.

What it ensures is that they control the process from the nomination of experts to produce the reports and final approval of what the reports say.

Final Reporting

The final control that keeps the focus almost exclusively on CO2 is the Summary for Policymakers (SPM), a shorter version for media and politicians of the Synthesis Report.

The SPM is written by a separate group of a few carefully selected ‘experts’ to produce a narrative that is not substantiated by the scientific analysis in WGI. Again the Wegman report warned of the part of the problem.

Especially when massive amounts of public monies and human lives are at stake, academic work should have a more intense level of scrutiny and review. It is especially the case that authors of policy-related documents like the IPCC report, Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis, should not be the same people as those that constructed the academic papers.

This includes those who wrote the academic papers but also produced the final report including the SPM. As David Wojick wrote,

Glaring omissions are only glaring to experts, so the “policymakers”—including the press and the public—who read the SPM will not realize they are being told only one side of a story. But the scientists who drafted the SPM know the truth, as revealed by the sometimes artful way they conceal it.

What is systematically omitted from the SPM are precisely the uncertainties and positive counter evidence that might negate the human interference theory. Instead of assessing these objections, the Summary confidently asserts just those findings that support its case. In short, this is advocacy, not assessment.

Summary

The total effect of the control of CO2 from beginning to end allowed them to reach the conclusions they desired for Assessment Report 5 (AR5).

Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.

This sounds unequivocal, but they are the slick carefully selected words of a spin doctor. Human influence is only clear because the IPCC made it so. Recent climate changes have had a widespread impact on human and natural systems, but that was always the case. Tell me something I don’t know!

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.

Nobody has argued that the climate systems didn’t warm since 1950, but this is only part of the warming since approximately 1680 has the Earth emerged from the Little Ice Age. It is natural for snow and ice to diminish in a warming world and when that happens for sea level to rise. Again, tell me something I don’t know! But that is not the problem because the creators of this controlled pseudo-science now that most of the public don’t know. They created a tangled web that forces their deceptions to higher and more ridiculous levels. At some point, a majority become aware, which coupled with a sense of something wrong causes a reaction. Anthropogenic global warming was ostensibly designed to save the planet but is part of the deception to impose globalization as Maurice Strong planned. A majority of people in Britain didn’t necessarily understand globalization but recognized how they were losing control of their lives and voted no.

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Science or Fiction
June 26, 2016 11:43 am

You can add to that that IPCC´s reviewer: InterAcademy Council was far from being independent from United Nations and IPCC.
“The creation of InterAcademy Council had been requested in 1999 by the Secretary‐General of the United Nations in order to facilitate the best scientific input into global decision‐making.”
“… discussions took place between United Nations staff and InterAcademy Council Co-Chairs and staff regarding a special UN-IAC Partnership arrangement … “
“… with strong support from United Nations Secretary-General Mr. Kofi Annan, the InterAcademy Council Board decided in February 2005 to launch an in-depth study on how to achieve global transitions to an adequately affordable, sustainable, clean energy supply…”
More quotes from InterAcademy councils annual report in my article:
The review of IPCC was not independent!

Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 26, 2016 12:32 pm

No one is ever independent because financial conflicts of interest are a big part of the glue that gets the testimony and verdicts desired. CAGW after all is an artificial science interested in normative changes instead of an investigation into current reality and what drives it.
What I worry about is that the UN and its related entities have all said education and changing how students view the world and what their values are is the turf that they can win this war on and this is where the battle is being invisibly fought. http://invisibleserfscollar.com/manipulating-the-inner-psychological-aspects-of-what-makes-each-student-tick-are-key/
How many parents and taxpayers are aware that these altered mindsets are to be locked in at a neural level? That researchers are flying all over the world trying to make sure students habitually respond from emotion instead of reason and facts? Why does the US NSF have an office in China to coordinate its global Science of Learning activities except to avoid scrutiny?
It is political and it is tied to BREXIT as people, economies, societies, and political structures are all treated as systems to be manipulated and planned for. Again the planners are richly compensated for these machinations, which are largely out of sight or misunderstood as physical science initiatives instead of behavioral science plans for us.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 12:45 pm

By it´s charter; article 3; The purposes of United Nations are
3 To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character …
Ironically, United Nations has become a cultural problem of an international character.

tony mcleod
Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 2:10 pm

Amazing how all of us view reality through the prism of our own biases. It means we must always be aware of this to get to the truth. The red flag for me right here, prism or no prism, is the “tied to BREXIT”.
The first step is ask who are “they”? Who is it that are manipulating “us”?
The “richly compensated” are the rich; they are already rich. But who are they? Are they the owners of large companies? tracts of land? gold? masterpieces? What are the material possessions they own that make them so powerful?
“They”. These powerful, wealthy, elite individuals who “manipulate and plan” for the other 99.9%, what do they look like? Does the 0.1% live in very grand houses? Would they in fact they own multiple, very grand houses? Wouldn’t everything they own be grand? Planes, boats, islands? You name it? So, how did they and do they make their wealth? What have they invested in?
If we can get a clear picture in our mind of this 0.1% vested interest then we can begin to predict their plans and recognize their manipulations. What is their plan? their greatest self-interested concern? The status quo, business as usual. Their business and financial interests are best served by a steady continued growth of the current model. Why? Because it’s doing quite nicely, thanks.
It’s obvious “they” are the owner the owner and controllers of all the large financial assets: the oil companies, banks, merchants and utilities.
As far as the motives and machinations the 0.1% elite in BREXIT vote, all just speculation. Anyway it’s the 0.00001% you really got to worry about.
How is your prism going?

Reply to  tony mcleod
June 26, 2016 2:40 pm

I agree. Who are ‘they’? Are ‘they’ organized [as the assumption seems to be]?

Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 3:49 pm

What do you mean who are ‘they’? Employees of UN entities, the OECD, the just merged with Michael Bloomberg presiding over US Mayors and European Covenant. the members of the local and state WIOA boards that every state in the US must have under federal law that few want to talk about…
Historically economic and political power are joined and there is no mass prosperity. That’s what we are going back to unless we wake up. CAGW is a rationale for the desired public sector control of people, places, and the economy. It’s not a conspiracy a la Orient Express. It is a coordinated effort to collude around political power , which will always happen if it can.

Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 3:56 pm

TonyMcLeod
OK, I’l bite.
“They” are the corporate, government and academic leaders who sincerely believed (at least at first, until the gravy train arrived) that the world was or would soon become overpopulated, our natural resources were finite and about to run out, that the nationalist (dare I say colonialist) countries (USA, UK) were to blame, and further the only remedy was global governance and the redistribution of wealth to atone for past sins (Al Gore and Joe Biden still freely talk about the coming of a new world order.)
Specifically who were they? For a sample start with the members of the Club of Rome. David Rockefeller hosted the first meeting at his estate near Rome Italy, and participants included Mikhail Gorbechov, Vaclav Havel, George Mitchell and Pierre Tradeau. (per Wikapedia that right wing rag).
Current members include Al Gore, Anne Erlich, the Dali Lahma, Bill Gates and, oh yes, Bill Clinton. I believe George Bush I participated at one time.
In addition to their own manifesto they were informed by a book called “the Population Explosion” by Paul Erlich (where have I heard that name?) and his protege at that time John Holdren. (Doesn’t John now have some sort of “sciency” job?). You better believe that Maurice Strong had a heavy hand in all this. That enough names for a start?
Today “they” are are a mix of the idealists who still believe in the above (despite their dire predictions not coming true) and those who are now in it for the money (Soros, Gore et al).
Still can’t see a connection to Brexit?

old construction worker
Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 5:28 pm

“Ironically, United Nations has become a cultural problem of an international character”
May I add; a very, very corrupt United Nations has become a cultural ………”

Barbara
Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 6:25 pm

The Fridtjof Nansen Institute, Norway, 3/2003
‘The Role of Green NGOs in Promoting Climate Compliance’
A 20 + page report on how green NGOs are set up and operate. Activist and Advocacy green NGOs are set up differently but operate with the same objectives
This report names some of the major NGOs involved.
Funding sources are not mentioned in this report. And this is an important factor as it takes money to promote Climate Compliance. A search has to be done to identify funding sources for green NGOs.
http://www.fni.no/pdf/rapp0403.pdf May not download so use internet search.

SC
Reply to  Robin
June 26, 2016 8:22 pm

I can’t believe we are discussing this issue here. Absolutely amazing Robin!
Thanks

Barbara
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 26, 2016 7:20 pm

Re: Dr Ball’s “Economic” Section
For example:
The INET/ Institute for New Economic Thinking (New York City) and the CIGI, (Waterloo, Ontario, Canada) are closely connected.
Both NGOs engage in the “new green” economic thinking.
CIGI has received a large sum of money mostly federal and also from the Ontario government along with a large amount of private funding.

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
June 26, 2016 8:27 pm

CIGI, July 23, 2002
‘Canada Pledges $30 million to Governance Centre’
https://www.cigionline.org/articles/2002/07/canada-pledges-30-million-governance-centre

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
June 26, 2016 10:29 pm

UNEP FI Global Roundtable, Geneva, 7 March 2011
James Balsillie, Founder of CIGI
UN High-level Panel of the UN Secretary-General Global Sustainability member.
http://www.unepfi.org/fileadmin/events/2011/roundtable/UNEP_FI_GRT_Press_Release_-_James_Balsillie.pdf

SC
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 26, 2016 8:16 pm

Who are they?
For starters just look who took Maurice Strong under his wing when he was just a young lad…
https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-maurice-strong-globalist-oiligarch-environmentalist/
None other than UN founder and globalist David Rockefeller. So I guess basically we are talking about the dynastic banking families of the planet.

Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 8:19 pm

Like Obama and the Dalai Lama?

SC
Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 8:37 pm

Leif Svalgaard
The CIA has pumped millions into the Dalai Lamas coffers over the years. That is a well known fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_Tibetan_program

Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 8:44 pm

So, the Dalai Lama is an important co-conspirat0r in the plot to reduce the population of the Earth by some 90%, right?

markl
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 8:57 pm

lsvalgaard commented: “…So, the Dalai Lama is an important co-conspirat0r in the plot to reduce the population of the Earth by some 90%, right?…”
Yes, another useful idiot. His guaranteed piece of the action is world peace brought about through wealth redistribution and One World Governance that is promised to embrace his ideology. Even the Pope wants in. Neither of them agree with forcefully reducing world population but are willing to look the other way to facilitate THEIR prime goals. After all doesn’t the end justify the means when world peace is at stake?

Reply to  markl
June 27, 2016 7:07 am

The gist of all this is that humanity [as always] is corralled by our ‘leaders’ into following the bandwagon and like sheep we are led along to the slaughter. Now, it may be a bandwagon when seen from the bottom, but it must be a c0nspiracy when seen from the top [somebody must be pushing the wagons]. There seems to be some confusion between climate change and population control. The ‘names’ brought forward are pushing population control, so being skeptical about climate change has no impact on that real issue.

Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 8:46 pm

And it is really the CIA that is behind him, so blame to US voters for not removing the clowns telling the CIA what to do.

SC
Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 9:00 pm

Leif
I have no idea what you are talking about. I’ll let the New York Times do the talking and then you can tell me what the Dalai Lama and CIA are up to OK?
World News Briefs; Dalai Lama Group Says It Got Money From C.I.A.
Published: October 2, 1998
NEW DELHI, Oct. 1— The Dalai Lama’s administration acknowledged today that it received $1.7 million a year in the 1960’s from the Central Intelligence Agency, but denied reports that the Tibetan leader benefited personally from an annual subsidy of $180,000.
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/02/world/world-news-briefs-dalai-lama-group-says-it-got-money-from-cia.html

Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 9:07 pm

Look for Dahlai Lama in the comments

SC
Reply to  SC
June 26, 2016 9:26 pm

Holy crap this is getting long. I didn’t see much on the Dalai Lama with or w/o climate change references but I think the point is that when someone is in the pay of someone else there can be a teensy weensy tenddency for the paid party to do or say whatever the payer requests.
Besides, the Dalai Lama babbles frequently and can barely stay awake for more than 2 hours at a time most days so I don’t think he’s going to qualify as a climate expert in any respect.
Worry instead about the coming depression and the budget cuts.

Luther Bl't
Reply to  SC
June 27, 2016 2:44 pm

One important connection between the Dalai Llama and the UNO is via the Lucis Trust which which prints and disseminates United Nations (UN) material. Lucis Trust was established in 1922 as Lucifer Trust by Alice Bailey to disseminate the ideas she had got as a medium from her Tibetan “Ascended Master”. There you will find extolled an arcane spirituality for the elites, and only for the elites.

Harry Passfield
June 26, 2016 11:46 am

AGWExit, anyone?

Phillip Bratby
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 26, 2016 12:02 pm

UNExit as well.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
June 26, 2016 2:51 pm

WorldExit for me, goodbye and thanks for all the fish.

GaryD.
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
June 26, 2016 3:09 pm

Or, with apologies to Lord Monckton, U-Nix-it

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
June 26, 2016 5:50 pm

Maybe you should read this.
Rep.Mike Rogers from Alabama,pointed to a wide range of reasons why the U.S. should dump the UN. “Although the United States makes up almost a quarter of the U.N.’s annual budget, the U.N. has attempted a number of actions that attack our rights as U.S. citizens,” he explained. “To name a few, these initiatives include actions like the Law of the Sea Treaty, which would subject our country to internationally-based environmental mandates, costing American businesses more money, or the U.N.’s work to re-establish an international regulation regime on global warming which would heavily target our fossil fuels.”
Indeed, especially in recent years, the UN has become increasingly brazen in attacking the rights of Americans, and even the U.S. Constitution that enshrines those unalienable rights. From attacks on free speech and gun rights to assaults on America’s federalist system of government and states’ rights, the UN and its member regimes have become increasingly aggressive. Now, the UN is working on a series of major schemes that would undermine even the principles upon which the United States was founded, much of it under the guise of promoting pseudo-human rights and pseudo-environmentalism.
Time to get rid of the UN.

Marcus
June 26, 2016 11:51 am

One typing error Dr. Ball..Excellent post as always !
“But that is not the problem because the creators of this controlled pseudo-science (K)now that most of the public don’t know.

Phillip Bratby
June 26, 2016 12:05 pm

Brexit could be the start of something big. We need others to pick up the baton against big Government and global Government.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
June 26, 2016 6:06 pm

Calexit? Followed by Berkexit?

Brian H
Reply to  kalya22
June 27, 2016 2:49 am

My fave (real) movement name is Czech Out.

crosspatch
June 26, 2016 12:14 pm

How about this one: University of East Anglia researchers would participate in creating the UN IPCC assessment reports. These reports would then go to the UNFCCC where policy recommendations would be made. In the UK, Defra, who are responsible for creating environmental regulations has “internationalized” its policies, meaning it simply adopts whatever the UNFCCC produces. Now Defra contracts to Tyndall Centre as consultants to work on the actual regulations needed to implement the UNFCCC regulations. This costs the government millions. Tyndall Centre is part of the University of East Anglia and so the investment they made in sending the researchers to the IPCC pays off in spades in consulting contracts when it comes time to implement policies made as a result of the assessment. It’s all one big giant racket.

June 26, 2016 12:17 pm

The problem with this post is that it is Conspiracy Theory, started by Strong and now carried on the a team called ‘they’ as is “they wanted namely that human CO2 production would increase”. Who precisely are ‘they’? It is very hard to continue a Conspiracy for decades.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:37 pm

“they” are ipcc, un,most us democrats,al gore,greenpeece,wwf,mike mann,m strong, the so called green energy companies, most msm in us have ties to white house,most if not all looking for grants,
To name a few. I m sure there are more.

Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 1:39 pm

‘They’ should be a list of actual names, actual people, keeping it up for decades. If you cannot make such a list, you have no case.

Editor
Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 4:41 pm

lsvalgaard – Your demand for names sounds reasonable, but it may be flawed in one particular way-it is conceptually based on a model of behaviour with elements of a militery-style command model where operators at every level of the hierarchy are identified. But there are other models, for example the model used by terrorist organisations such as IS which aim to inspire people to indulge in terrorist acts and don’t care who those people are. In other words, a very small number of people driving the movement can remain anonymous while those they inspire are faceless too. List of names? No chance. The political climate movement seems to be based more on the “inspire” model than the “command” model, so names may be generally unavailable. Unfortunately, it also makes genuine criticism of the movement difficult to distinguish from misguided conspiracy theory.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
June 26, 2016 4:45 pm

Various commenters had no difficulties with names: Obama, Dalai Lama (!), Turner, etc. But none of those were co-authors of the IPCC reports, so perhaps people are confusing Climate Change and Population Reduction.

Gabro
Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 5:02 pm

How about the authors of the IPeCaC’s “Policymakers’ Summary”?
Drafting Authors:
Richard B. Alley, Terje Berntsen, Nathaniel L. Bindoff, Zhenlin Chen, Amnat Chidthaisong, Pierre Friedlingstein,
Jonathan M. Gregory, Gabriele C. Hegerl, Martin Heimann, Bruce Hewitson, Brian J. Hoskins, Fortunat Joos, Jean Jouzel,
Vladimir Kattsov, Ulrike Lohmann, Martin Manning, Taroh Matsuno, Mario Molina, Neville Nicholls, Jonathan Overpeck,
Dahe Qin, Graciela Raga, Venkatachalam Ramaswamy, Jiawen Ren, Matilde Rusticucci, Susan Solomon, Richard Somerville,
Thomas F. Stocker, Peter A. Stott, Ronald J. Stouffer, Penny Whetton, Richard A. Wood, David Wratt
Draft Contributing Authors:
J. Arblaster, G. Brasseur, J.H. Christensen, K.L. Denman, D.W. Fahey, P. Forster, E. Jansen, P.D. Jones, R. Knutti,
H. Le Treut, P. Lemke, G. Meehl, P. Mote, D.A. Randall, D.A. Stone, K.E. Trenberth, J. Willebrand, F. Zwiers

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 6:21 pm

Most of the “They” are corporate entities, pursuing financial or ideological agendas, who profit from the AGW industry. I think of Greenpeace, WWF, etc. and various crony opportunists cashing in on government subsidies such as Dave Cameron’s father, big in swindlemills. Government itself, which is the basis of financial support for this industry, is hopelessly conflicted. How many people at the EPA, NOAA or NASA lose their jobs if the AGW theory is no longer believed?

Ray Boorman
Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 7:10 pm

Leiff, it isn’t called a gravy train for nothing. The concern generated by a small number of central-control-freaks with an agenda decades ago, resulted in the establishment of huge taxpayer-funded grant schemes for AGW research. This grant funding is the gravy train, & as a path to a secure career in academia, it has tempted many university graduates to jump aboard. Once on-board, they produce research papers supporting the AGW hypothesis, reviewed for publication by others also riding the gravy train. Plus, they unfailingly call for more research on this “problem”, which leads to more successful grant applications for themselves & their associates.
The corruption of an ideal involved in this process is very subtle, & most of the gravy-trainers probably think they really are saving the planet from destruction. This happens because they are taught from school that CO2 is a disaster in the making, & being young & naive students, they believe that what they are being told is true. They cannot contemplate that someone, somewhere, has deliberately misinterpreted, or misrepresented, an idea to further their own political ends, & because of this, it is a small step to doing the same thing themselves, because they believe they are fighting, almost alone, against huge & powerful enemies bent on raping & pillaging the planet’s resources for their own profit.
The term “useful idiots” is about the only way to describe the large number of people presently involved in spreading the AGW scare.

Reply to  Ray Boorman
June 26, 2016 7:47 pm

The term “useful idiots” is about the only way to describe the large number of people presently involved in spreading the AGW scare.
It describes the large number of people who voted the clowns into office and are now afraid to speak up.

Barbara
Reply to  John piccirilli
June 27, 2016 7:44 pm

CIGI, Waterloo, Ontario, Nov.29, 2015
‘Remembering Maurice Strong on the Eve of COP 21’
“He had not been well for the past few months, but he still followed the preparations for the meeting with keen interest, meeting only last week with Klaus Topfer, one of his successors as Executive Director of the United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP)”.
Written by David Runnalls a close and long time associate of Maurice Strong.
https://www.cigionline.org/blogs/global-roll-of-law/remembering-maurice-strong-eve-of-cop-21

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:38 pm

Spot on correct.
The truth is that the funding was generated to study cAGW because it was a potential threat.
And funding seeks funding. Institutions grow as they are fed like everything else.
There was no global conspiracy manufactured by a “Strong”-man. Whether for Spectre or anyone else.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:40 pm

Strawman argument, and simplistic reasoning. Try harder.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 1:41 pm

You fail again to bring anything concrete to the table. Produce the list of ‘they’.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:54 pm

You fail to bring anything but your strawman argument to the table, so have added zero, and have no “case”.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 1:57 pm

Repeating your nonsense does you no favor. Produce the list of actual people or slink away.

rogerknights
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 2:27 pm

“A conspiracy is unnecessary when a carrot will suffice.”
WUWTer from five+ years ago.
Although most of the coordinated action comes about spontaneously, through shared mindsets and immersion in echo chambers, and green propaganda outlets.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 27, 2016 8:33 am

lsvalgaard – “Repeating your nonsense does you no favor. Produce the list of actual people or slink away.”
The problem is that it is an organic conspiracy, defined not by its supporters, but by the lack of opposition. No one in the UN, Government or Scientific realm benefits from opposition to the AGW meme. Even Scientists who disagree benefit from the funding the field gets and the UN and Government certainly benefit for solving a non existent problem.
The only opposition is from people not in the scientific community, or Government or UN. Basically the opposition is from taxpayers who have to pay the bill, is that a conspiracy?

Barbara
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 27, 2016 7:49 pm

Conspiracy? But a huge “food-chain” sure has developed.

JohnKnight
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:56 pm

“It is very hard to continue a Conspiracy for decades.”
Are you speaking from personal experience, sir?
Are there not drug cartels that persist for decades? Human trafficking, illicit arms sales/distribution networks, etc.? It seems to me that once the “infrastructure” of conspiratorial profit making is in place, it can be very hare to discontinue the “conspiracy”.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 2:20 pm

The world is full of conspiracies of self interest. Capitalism is one of them, wherein the participants understand that some aspects of it might be unfair, but overall it provides the greatest good for the most people. Capitalists minimize the negative aspects of the system while Socialists exaggerate them.
Is it really very difficult to see that UN bureaucrats, funded environmental scientists, leftist politicians, environmentalists and third world wannabes might find a happy home within a movement aimed at the heart of Western prosperity? It is sufficiently obvious to be self evident- and it is happening!

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 3:01 pm

Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. You’ve added mindless drivel to your strawman argument. Good job!

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 3:16 pm

good you liked it. It seems to hit your level just fine.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 3:41 pm

I guess a moron like you doesn’t comprehend sarcasm. What a shame.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 3:43 pm

In general, if you have something to say, say it clearly and definitely. Don’t assume anything.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 4:08 pm

Fine. Morons such as yourself can’t comprehend sarcasm and continually repeat strawman arguments.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 4:10 pm

Looks very much like a repeat of one of your earlier comments…

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 2:30 pm

You’re the one repeating himself. You are like a mindless parrot. Why don’t you skulk away. Come back when you have something with any semblance of logic or reasoning.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 2:42 pm

You keep the repeats. Not even innovative.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 2:50 pm

You have nothing to offer but your mindless strawman argument, which you just keep repeating in robot fashion.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 2:53 pm

Note, how all your posts are alike.
Now, I’ll take you out of the rot you are in.
You seem to be content to be manipulated by nameless conspirat0rs, without showing any interest in finding out who they are. So, the result is predictable and you just get what is coming to you.

tony mcleod
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 27, 2016 3:07 am

Here ya go Isvalgaard, as far as I can tell the most powerful, dangerous groups on the planets – “they” are: “UN bureaucrats, funded environmental scientists, leftist politicians, environmentalists and third world wannabes”, oh and the Dalai Lama.
What hope would multi-billionaire oligarchs who have whole media networks in their stable have against these formidable players. Yeah I know the conspiracy theorist are getting pretty crazy. It goes to show the kind of warped logic goes into explaining away the clear evidence of AGW.
“They”, who have the most money, who have the most to lose by any change to their business model are obviously most likely to be doing the conspiring and manipulating but that just doesn’t fit the narrative.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 3:58 pm

Leif – you are far to bright to have us believe you don’t grasp Tim’s points (which are not new, just laid out in a characteristically neat sequence with characteristic clarity). I think you are being deliberately obtuse.
There are no conspirators huddled in the shadows. It’s all been done in the open.
To try and paraphrase some of what Tim said: Strong’s role seems to me more like that of Paul of Tarsus, latching on to ideas that he himself did not invent. seeing that they gave him a weapon to advance his own radical-green beliefs, building a bit of a fuzzy organization around them, and sitting back while those ideas made their way in the big wide world.
Involving the UN was Strong’s best move. Where else could he find an organization with respectability, almost unlimited financial resources and absolutely no accountability, populated by political hacks with no agenda other than self-advancement?
Those ideas appealed to radical environmentalists looking for a new scare story, to opportunistic scientists, to ambitious civil servants and to politicians looking for ideas to make them appear decisive and important. And they spread. And spread.
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s an infection. It started out locally and is now a global epidemic. In fact, you could call it a VIRUS OF THE MIND…………..
Trying this reply for the third time. Something not working right.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 4:01 pm

Leif – you are far to bright to have us believe you don’t grasp Tim’s points (which are not new, just laid out in a characteristically neat sequence with characteristic clarity). I think you are being deliberately obtuse.
There are no conspirators huddled in the shadows. It’s all been done in the open.
To try and paraphrase some of what Tim said: Strong’s role seems to me more like that of Paul of Tarsus, latching on to ideas that he himself did not invent. seeing that they gave him a weapon to advance his own radical-green beliefs, building a bit of a fuzzy organization around them, and sitting back while those ideas made their way in the big wide world.
Involving the UN was Strong’s best move. Where else could he find an organization with respectability, almost unlimited financial resources and absolutely no accountability, populated by political hacks with no agenda other than self-advancement?
Those ideas appealed to radical environmentalists looking for a new scare story, to opportunistic scientists, to ambitious civil servants and to politicians looking for ideas to make them appear decisive and important. And they spread. And spread.
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s an infection. It started out locally and is now a global epidemic. In fact, you could call it a VIRUS OF THE MIND…………..

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Smart Rock
June 27, 2016 9:16 pm

Exactly. It is all being done in the open. Against little opposition.
Plenty of names have been named. These forces have been rubbing elbows and hob-nobbing together for nigh on 100 years.
The Rockefellers merely picked up the population control mantel that began with serious steam once Darwin gave Galton the raw material for turning classism into the “science” of eugenics.
There are very distinct, clear lines from Galton to Margaret Sanger, who emphasized the supposed misery of the lower classes and not so much the environmental destruction angle.
This Eugenic stream fell out of favor when Hilter made it unpopular – the challenge since then has been to control the entire population through “the environment.”
The U.N. did continue on with population control activities of epic proportion, following the pioneering population control individuals and groups who had been active on this topic strongly, beginning in the 1920s, in India and Japan and other locales. Anyone who really wants to have names of individuals and organizations can google “Margaret Sanger” and “Japan” as an example.
From there, it builds directly to Planned Parenthood International, and the United Nations Population Fund, Rockefellers, Ford Foundation, etc.
It truly has all been done in the open. These organizations have largely been at the “NGO” level – Rockefeller’s strategy of tying “foreign aid” to population control targets was U.S. governmental, though.
This is paraded around onyl in certain circles, and not broadcast as widely as “the environment,” but it is all there. I have dozens of books in my personal library that provide the names and groups in their historical successions.

Reply to  TheLastDemocrat
June 27, 2016 9:20 pm

And what do you do about it? If anything…

Mickey Reno
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 4:26 pm

Leaf, every COP is a meeting of the conspirators, every Greenpeace meeting, every meeting of the World Wildlife Fund. Of course they don’t consider themselves a conspiracy, only the saviors of the planet. It’s just a matter of semantics. This is a big part of their blindness. They can’t see obvious things right in front of their faces while they can see absolute causation in every tenuous correlation of warmth and CO2. This is the real perniciousness of “post-normal science.” Politics drives the science, the science doesn’t drive the politics. Weak-ass correlations, bogus and unproven statistical tests and uncertainty destroy political certainty. That’s why this whole movement, this conspiracy, will ultimately fail. But in the meantime, school children are being brainwashed in leftist public schools, so that this power block can continue into the future.

Robert from oz
Reply to  Mickey Reno
June 27, 2016 1:22 am

The plural for a meeting of green groups is a “conspiracy” just look it up , trust me it’s there somewhere !

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 4:56 pm

One does not have to have a smoke filled room with a few dark and dangerous men around a table to have a conspiracy. Often there is a conspiracy of interests and that leads to group think. The real conspiracy was in the original set up of the edifice of lies.
As an example, how did we get to the point where the summery (Summary for Policymakers) can be written before the report itself is done? The science follows the conclusion? That took some people agreeing on Fr@ud concocting an outcome and killing the science.
I have been watching this mess since the early 80s when it became apparent that a con-game was afoot. It did not take a master detective (Mr. Holmes, please call your office) to see that those who wanted a world government were behind it.
Dr. Ball is calling it just as it happened.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 5:08 pm

@Isvalgaard – see my post below if you want just a small sample of familiar names. No tin foil hats required.
I think it is a very big mistake to cloak this under the pejorative term of “Conspiracy Theory”. That implies some “below the surface” nexus of secret organizations. Those who subscribe to the ideology that we are running out of resources; we will soon be over populated; it is the fault of “nationalism” and that the solution is global governance and redistribution among nations to atone for past sins, are far from hiding their beliefs both as individuals (Cameron, Obama, Trudeau Sr/Jr et al) or in the government and NGO organizations they run or influence (Soros, Gore et al). And I haven’t even started on the mix of sophomoric “pie in the sky” and/or “gravy train” academics. Of course multinational corporations also have a huge stake.
How can this continue for decades? I’m with you there. Why we haven’t run the UN, EU, The Club of Rome (whose current members include Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, the Dali Lahma, the Rockefellers et al), the US Progressives and most of the main stream media out of town long ago?
Now, if you are really into “Conspiracy Theory” I’d suggest you research Margaret Meade and HER her influence on this topic.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 27, 2016 1:47 am

Who precisely are ‘they’? It is very hard to continue a Conspiracy for decades.” (lsvalgaard June 26, 2016 at 12:17 pm)

This is of course straight out of the CIA playbook* and I quote:
“In private to media discussions not directed at any particular writer, or in attacking publications which may be yet forthcoming, the following arguments should be useful:
…(c) Conspiracy on the large scale often suggested would be impossible to conceal in the United States.” *
The CIA’s clandestine services unit created the arguments for attacking conspiracy theories as unreliable in the 1960s as part of its psychological warfare operations. The evidence for this is a matter of public record disclosed in documents released under FOIA in 1976.
Great minds do think alike as I’ve noticed these ‘ploys’ in your comments on this post:
“Our ploy should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (II) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories. “ (CIA Document #1035-960 4/1/67)
*This is actually a poor or at least difficult argument to sustain as there are innumerable examples of documented conspiracies that remained concealed for decades. Arch propagandist and Obama czar -“Infiltrate all conspiracy theorists” – Cass Sunstein, even listed a few!

SC
Reply to  Scott Wilmot Bennett
June 27, 2016 12:58 pm

Absolutely brilliant summation of the process SWB.
I can’t believe that I’m actually reading what I’m reading here today.
Thank you.

Joel Snider
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 27, 2016 9:03 am

It isn’t conspiracy theory. It’s like-minded people committed to a cause, and willing to use any means available, and now it’s been thirty years of subterfuge.
It’s really quite a simple, natural and common phenomenon, not hard to understand at all.

Reply to  Joel Snider
June 27, 2016 9:25 am

It isn’t c0nspiracy theory. It’s like-minded people committed to a cause, and willing to use any means available
Isn’t that the definition of C0nspiracy?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 27, 2016 10:40 am

Calling a natural social phenomenon a ‘Conspiracy Theory’ is an effort to discredit the effect of it, by likening it to the tin-foil hat paranoia crowd.
Actual conspiracies go on all the time, all over the place. Sometimes it happens for deliberate criminal purpose, sometimes it happens because of cause-minded mentality that is willing to break the rules… even to the point of criminality. And its very easy to stretch out a cause over twenty or thirty years – even indefinitely.
Hell, any old social trend or paranoia can blow up into a destructive, even organized movement. Were witch-burnings ‘conspiracies’? That was in the name of God. Or how about Y2K panic? That was about saving the world too. Or Eugenics – that one was about saving the human race.
It starts with belief, which leads to bias – and activists, alarmists, and politicians are nothing if not biased. Is it ‘Conspiracy Theory’ to state that obvious qualifier? And when it comes to AGW, these people think they’re saving the world. Isn’t that motivation enough?
‘By any means necessary’ is a catch phrase with implications behind it that you have to be deliberately obtuse to avoid seeing.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 28, 2016 2:44 am

[snip multiple policy violations -mod]

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 28, 2016 11:52 am

Follow the money.
There is always money involved.
There is a huge, relatively new, highly government subsidized, “green” industry now.
“They” are leftists who use the threat of a (climate) crisis to seize more power for the central government, and more subsidies / loans from the government for their green industry investments.
In the US, a non-profit environment group will sue the EPA, and the EPA will settle the case in a way that essentially creates a new law, without going through Congress.
There are no guns, no force, and no violence — just clever, peaceful ways that leftists in the government, both elected officials and bureaucrats, grab more power for the central government, by going through the courts.

June 26, 2016 12:21 pm

Climate Alarmists are riding a tiger.

gnomish
June 26, 2016 12:23 pm

Brilliant and cogent analysis and summation by a heroic person who never negotiated a compromise and always, if not in so few words, said FoF.
Dr Tim should be commemorated on a gold coin – while he’s living- so he gets the recognition he has earned to intransigent devotion to truth.

Reply to  gnomish
June 28, 2016 2:47 am

I’ll second that.

June 26, 2016 12:28 pm

the usa should exit the un
it’s a bureaucracy nightmare
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2794991

Tom in Florida
Reply to  chaamjamal
June 26, 2016 12:39 pm

The UN should exit the U.S., by force if necessary. Let them go to Brussels.

Latitude
Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 26, 2016 2:02 pm

…to dangerous

Greg Woods
Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 26, 2016 3:39 pm

Burkina Faso

Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 26, 2016 6:50 pm

Keep UN in US. We have better laws.

June 26, 2016 12:29 pm

While almost all a strong story, one weak point:
Each year the amount of human produced CO2 increases, and while it may be true, the amount is controlled by the IPCC.
The IPCC only made the guidelines for the inventories, to be sure that every country uses the same calculations for CO2 emissions from the different fules, but the data are based on fossil fuel sales of each individual country, where some countries are more accurate than others (China…).
Sales in general are based on taxes, so may be somewhat underestimated due to the human nature to avoid taxes by under-the-counter sales, but in general rather accurate and besides the economical crisis in some years steady increasing…

Louis
Reply to  Ferdinand Engelbeen
June 26, 2016 4:21 pm

You misspelled fools as “fules.” 🙂

Reply to  Louis
June 27, 2016 12:53 am

Rules?

June 26, 2016 12:35 pm

The Alarmists are in a race with Mother Nature to secure their complete control of the reins of the global economy before the natural cycle shifts to cold for 70 years. The Alarmists are tough, and many in number, but even they can’t withstand the ridicule of many years during the next cold cycle that is starting now..

Tom Halla
June 26, 2016 12:47 pm

Interesting post. it’s politics all the way down!

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 26, 2016 12:48 pm

Even the very post is just politics.

Tom Halla
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:05 pm

I think global warming, and the green movement in general, is not a conspiracy per se, but a mass movement. Like the fascist and socialist movements of the 19th and 20th Centuries, there are leaders, but it is quasi-religious, with a shared creed and belief system. The EPA tried to find an origin for the environmental lmovement in a study in the early 1970’s and failed to find any one cause.
I use “mass movement” in the same sense that Eric Hoffer did in “The True Believer”. What looks like a conspiracy and acts like a conspiracy is more a social virus.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 1:42 pm

Do you not comprehende this whole charade is politics?

Reply to  John piccirilli
June 26, 2016 1:46 pm

The whole post is politics too. But politics is made by people. Who specifically are ‘they’? how many are ‘they’? produce a list [with evidence].

Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 3:49 pm

Leif – you are far to bright to have us believe you don’t grasp Tim’s points (which are not new, just laid out in a characteristically neat sequence with characteristic clarity). I think you are being deliberately obtuse.
There are no conspirators huddled in the shadows. It’s all been done in the open.
To try and paraphrase some of what Tim said: Strong’s role seems to me more like that of Paul of Tarsus, latching on to ideas that he himself did not invent. seeing that they gave him a weapon to advance his own radical-green beliefs, building a bit of a fuzzy organization around them, and sitting back while those ideas made their way in the big wide world.
Involving the UN was Strong’s best move. Where else could he find an organization with respectability, almost unlimited financial resources and absolutely no accountability, populated by political hacks with no agenda other than self-advancement?
Those ideas appealed to radical environmentalists looking for a new scare story, to opportunistic scientists, to ambitious civil servants and to politicians looking for ideas to make them appear decisive and important. And they spread. And spread.
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s an infection. It started out locally and is now a global epidemic. In fact, you could call it a VIRUS OF THE MIND…………..

gnomish
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 5:52 pm

right. mr svalgaard – and i suppose john wayne gacey was just another clown?
there are heroes and villains in this story – they are not not not the same.
no, mr svalgaard, the distinguishing characteristic of the global warming fraud is that it is the most ambitious fraud ever attempted in human history.this kind of global wholesale rapacious predation is unprecedented and requires victims on a scale unsurpassed.
dr tim’s article is explaining and exposing the workings of that.
dr tim contributes to the defense of human beings’ rights and liberties from this monstrous exercise of deception.
one wonders what purpose you have in conflating the truths presented by dr tim with the lies presented by the globalists pursuing agenda 21
what is it you wish to blind yourself to? what is it that you don’t dare to face?

Eric Barnes
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 26, 2016 6:04 pm

I wouldn’t bother John. Leif is intent on channeling Nick Stokes.

David A
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 27, 2016 3:28 am

Leif, real nuanced answers were given to your challenges, and you have ignored them. Please consider to read “Blue Planet In green Shackles”
How can you be surprised that human nature is susceptible to the well known social forces of monetary corruption, confirmation bias, peer pressure, noble cause corruption, greed, and the siren call of power over others, and how can you not expect that trillions of dollars invested in , as you say, “JUST POLITICS” would not effectively put all these universal human failings into action, including affecting science with “post modern science”?
Actually the post is not politics, as there is in this post ZERO demand for social conformity, monetary confiscation to the tune of ONE PENNY, LET ALONE trillions of dollars, fundamental change in National powers submitting to global authority, (The EU writ large) or any new laws by even one, let alone by the thousands controlling tea kettles, vacuums and every minor products, not to mention the entire global energy production.
I must say your demanding work as a scientist may have isolated you to the point of naivety regarding the political world.

David A
Reply to  lsvalgaard
June 27, 2016 3:29 am

Leif real nuanced answers with organizations and names were given to your challenges, and you have ignored them. Please consider to read “Blue Planet In green Shackles”
How can you be surprised that human nature is susceptible to the well known social forces of monetary corruption, confirmation bias, peer pressure, noble cause corruption, greed, and the siren call of power over others, and how can you not expect that trillions of dollars invested in , as you say, “JUST POLITICS” would not effectively put all these universal human failings into action, including affecting science with “post modern science”?
Actually the post is not politics, as there is in this post ZERO demand for social conformity, monetary confiscation to the tune of ONE PENNY, LET ALONE trillions of dollars, fundamental change in National powers submitting to global authority, (The EU writ large) or any new laws by even one, let alone by the thousands controlling tea kettles, vacuums and every minor products, not to mention the entire global energy production.
I must say your demanding work as a scientist may have isolated you to the point of naivety regarding the political world.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 26, 2016 1:55 pm

Again with the strawman? You are like a broken record.

Ten
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 26, 2016 2:47 pm

lsvalgaard has draped itself with importance but lost the point. Ironic that a literalist can’t understand that all theories begin by connecting obvious dots…

June 26, 2016 12:52 pm

What a great article. I guess my next question would be, now how do we expose the direct media connections (I’m talking executive names)?!?!
It’s amazing to me Republicans have always been so reactionary and not on the offense- planning out “What will be there next move?” And then speak it before it happens. The working papers and white papers are easy to find. I
think the most maligned person in the United States is Senator James Inoffe from Oklahoma.
Thank you so much for this education!

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Bob Cox
June 27, 2016 9:26 pm

Bob Cox: this is where the term “uniparty” comes from.
The Republicans right now are fighting Donald Trump harder than they EVER fought Obama.
Why? Trump is not in on the scam. He sees it and intends to end it. The ritual battles of “republicans” and “democrats” will suffer.
Many rank and file plain ol’ citizens on both the left and the right know this. It has gotten so bad it is unavoidable this election season. This is why Bernie Sanders has done so well, and why Trump has done so well.
McConnel, Ryan, et al. will never go after any of these guys. Sadly, guys like Gowdy never will, either. Certainly no dem will.

Newminster
June 26, 2016 1:05 pm

CO2? 4%?
What am I missing?

Reply to  Newminster
June 26, 2016 1:17 pm

4% of greenhouses gasses, was the assertion.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Newminster
June 26, 2016 1:18 pm

A couple of decimal places?

TonyL
Reply to  Newminster
June 26, 2016 1:30 pm

“The 4% of greenhouse gasses”
I read that as 96% H2O, 4% CO2, 0.0%CH4, etc.
Could have been more clear. Sound about right, everybody?

Reply to  TonyL
June 26, 2016 1:57 pm

400 parts per million is 0.04% by my calculation .

Reply to  TonyL
June 26, 2016 2:06 pm

and to make the anthropogenic CO2 alarmist theory even worse – of the 400PPM only 26ppm are man made – ( from memory so feel free to correct me here ) .
Then as CO2 only has a limited life span before getting absorbed ( by algae/ plants etc ) it’s ven less of a problem .
So – even though water vapour which is a demonstrably more powerfull GHG and plentiful we are told this doesn’t effect temperatures ( well except as a forcing ) only the miniscule trace element CO2 is doing that .
BUT we can’t prove it BUT we have “modelled ” it and even the models don’t give CO2 much power it’s just that when you get warming from CO2 the other forcings kick in giving us 1.5 -4.5 deg per century .
I think I’ve got that right .
Otherwise known as the complete and utter farcical fraud of CAGW .

John Harmsworth
Reply to  TonyL
June 26, 2016 2:31 pm

-Kiwibok
400ppm is for the entire atmosphere. The stated numbers are for ghg’s only. Personally, I have my doubts about H2O as it is probably the most under recognized variable of the mysterious factor know ( unknown to the IPCC) as negative feedback.

FerdiEgb
Reply to  TonyL
June 27, 2016 2:21 am

Kiwibok,
Man-made CO2 is about 9% of all CO2 current in the atmosphere, but it is responsible for 90% of the CO2 increase in the past 160 years. 10% is from warming oceans. The rest of the human CO2 (twice the increase in the atmosphere) is exchanged with natural CO2, mainly from the (deep) oceans. Exchange doesn’t change quantities, only swaps CO2 from different origin.
The point of the IPCC is that water vapor is quite constant for a fixed temperature, while CO2 is increasing and absorbs IR in bands where water is not active. According to the IPCC, water vapor works as (overestimated) positive feedback (more CO2 – warmer – more water vapor), but they underestimate the role of clouds as negative feedback (more CO2 – warmer – more clouds)…

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  TonyL
June 27, 2016 9:31 am

Kiwibok, I suggest that you take what FerdiEgb stated in his “June 27, 2016 at 2:21 am” posting …… with a grain of salt.
In essence, delusional “rants” such as his posting was, …. was not based in or on any factual science or actual physical evidence ……. but is solely reliant upon associations, correlations, estimations, guesstimations and/or “fuzzy” math calculations using highly questionable “quantity numbers” that are reported by government agencies.
Be careful, very careful, what others try to convince you to believe, ……… otherwise you will soon be “taking things back” ……. that you never took in the first place.

FerdiEgb
Reply to  TonyL
June 27, 2016 12:46 pm

Kiwibok,
Samuel’s rant is without any fact, so let’s look at real facts:
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/co2_origin.html

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  TonyL
June 28, 2016 5:27 am

FerdiEgb said:

Samuel’s rant is without any fact, so let’s look at real facts:

The following was excerpted from FerdiEgb cited ‘real facts’ , that were derived via associations, correlations, estimations, guesstimations and/or “fuzzy” math calculations of questionable quantities, to wit:

1. Evidence of human influence on the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.
1.1. The mass balance
The amount of CO2 emitted by humans nowadays is

And I addressed FerdiEgb’s mass balance thingy several months ago via this WUWT posted commentary …. which Ferdinand simply ignored the context of via his normal weasel worded rhetoric and conjured up “junk science” facts, to wit:
Sam C posted:

Ferdinand, your above graph appears to be little more than the product of your “creative” thinking ……. and me thinks you should clean-it-up before anymore touting of its scientific value.
First of all, you titled your graph as being “average seasonal CO2” yet there is nothing “seasonal” about the plotted CO2 data given the fact you “zeroed”each years’s data to begin on January 1 of each “calender year” which has nothing whatsoever to do seasons or seasonal. The seasons begin and end with equinoxes and solstices …. so “zero” your data with one of them, …… or least denote all four (4) of them on your graph.
Of course, that brings up the 2nd and critical problem with your graph which renders it pretty much FUBAR. And that is, … no where does your plotted CO2 data agree with factual reality or the Mauna Loa record. ftp://aftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/products/trends/co2/co2_mm_mlo.txt
Atmospheric CO2 doesn’t start its bi-yearly decrease until post-mid May …. and it doesn’t start its bi-yearly increase until post-September 23rd.
Ferdinand stated:

CO2 goes opposite: lowest levels in summer, highest in winter, again because of more land and thus more vegetation absorbing CO2 in the NH summer,

Your above mimicry does not comport with the biology of the seasonal changes in the Northern Hemisphere.
The “greening” of the vegetation in the NH begins in mid to late January in the southern latitudes when the average daily surface temperatures begin increasing ….. and progresses slowly northward to mid June in the far northern latitudes.
Thus, as the increase in the “greening” of the vegetation progresses slowly northward there is also an accompanying increase in the absorption of atmospheric CO2 which is required for said “greening” photosynthesis. But, even though said increase in “greening” and said increase in “CO2 absorption” began in late January and progressed slowly northward, …… the decrease in atmospheric CO2 did not actually begin until mid-May, …. which is like 3 ½ months after the “greening” started.
And, even though there is a 3 ½ months delay between the aforesaid “start” cycles …. the novices and the miseducated have been nurtured to believe that the aforesid increased “greening” is the direct cause of the aforesaid decreased CO2. But, there is a BIG problem with that nurtured belief.
Said “greening” of the vegetation in the far northern latitudes begins decreasing and/or terminates by late July …..and quickly progresses southward toward the southern latitudes and has pretty much terminated by late August or first of September ….. whereas the atmospheric CO2 continues its decline until after September 23rd … and oftentimes to early October, …. which is like 1 month after the “greening” stopped.
But the REALLY big problem with the aforesaid “nurtured belief” is the fact that the Springtime increase in average daily surface temperatures, ….. as they progress slowly northward to the far northern latitudes to cause said increase in “greening”, …….. also “trigger” a horrendous increase in the biological rotting and/or decomposition of dead biomass which causes the emission of copious amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere …. which are probably close to being equal to what the “greening” is absorbing from the atmosphere.
So there, Ferdinand, is a quasi example of your touted “mass balance”.

Ferdinand, to prove that your claimed facts are the real facts ….. you first have to DISPROVE the biology of planet earth, ……. as well as the natural Law of Refrigerated Biomass Preservation.
Dead biomass does not rot or emit/outgas CO2 if it is being refrigerated, either by humans or Mother Nature.

Reply to  TonyL
June 28, 2016 1:28 pm

Samuel,
If you don’t accept any real life measurement and only stick to your own ideas, then no discussion is possible.
CO2 emissions from decaying vegetation from under a snow deck in Alaska were measured with air temperatures down to -20°C, but you simply don’t accept that evidence…
And as the seasonal changes in the SH are far less (+/- 1 ppmv) than in the NH (+/- 8 ppmv at Barrow, +/- 4 ppmv at Mauna Loa), the SH oceans hardly can influence the NH seasonal CO2 changes, it is more the opposite…

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  TonyL
June 29, 2016 5:37 am

Ferdinand, if you ever get around to measuring/recording any “real life measurement” then you be sure to let me and the rest of the world know about it.
And Ferdinand keeps repeating the following silly arsed statement which he apparently believes is one of those “real life measurement”.

CO2 emissions from decaying vegetation from under a snow deck in Alaska were measured with air temperatures down to -20°C, but you simply don’t accept that evidence…

So Ferdinand, you are actually claiming that …… one (1) “real life measurement” of the CO2 in the air underneath one (1) snow deck that was attached to one (1) heated living quarters (house or lodge) somewhere in southern Alaska when the per se outside near surface air temperature surrounding said “heated living quarters” was measured to be -20°C (-4°F) ……. is proof positive that extremely rapid “wintertime” rotting and decaying of dead biomass is occurring in all the frozen ground and underneath all snow and ice covered areas of the Northern Hemisphere and the outgassing of CO2 from said is therefore the cause of the “wintertime” increase in atmospheric CO2 ppm as measured at Mauna Loa.
Ferdinand, tis no wonder the younger generations are non-thinking, non-reasoning, “science illiterates” …. given the fact that you are not the only one of “your kind” that are the teachers and mentors of the “minds” of those adolescent children and teenagers.
And ps, Ferdi, …. one wintertime early morning, when I was living in Upstate NY, the outside near surface air temperature was -37°F …. with about 3 feet of snow on the ground ……… and the CO2 underneath my barn roof was probably 30,000 ppm to 50,000 ppm simply because my 37 beef cows were all exhaling CO2 into the air of that confined space.

FerdiEgb
Reply to  TonyL
June 29, 2016 8:28 am

Samuel,
A few more measurements done than in your barn:
http://www.geobotany.org/library/pubs/FahnestockJT1998_jgr_103_29023.pdf

June 26, 2016 1:21 pm

Demexit

June 26, 2016 1:31 pm

The Stefan-Boltzmann equation correlates the temperature of an ideal black body and the energy/power flux, W/m^2, radiating from its surface. (power is energy over time) 1) This requires a “body” and 2) a “surface.” For instances, a block of metal, a brick wall, a sheet of aluminum, a body of water, a sheet of glass, etc. How a volume of gas, i.e. the atmosphere, constitutes a “body” or has a “surface” eludes me so if any of you can ‘splain jump right in. Is it the “surface” of an individual molecule or collection of molecules? BTW the atmosphere is 99.95% N2, O2 and Argon and beyond 50 km or so even those molecules are really scarce and far apart. 99.95% of those LWIR photons pass right through.
Here is the S-B equation: Q = σ * ε * A * T^4.
σ = 5.67 × 10−8 W/m2-K4.
ε = emissivity = decimal fraction. Ideal black bodies do not exist in the real world. When energy hits an object it can be reflected, transmitted, and/or absorbed. The absorbed energy raises the temperature of the BB according to its specific heat capacity and it radiates at that temperature until it reaches thermal equilibrium with the surroundings. The more energy that is reflected or transmitted the less there is to absorb and the less to radiate. The ratio of the actual radiation/observed temperature to the ideal BB radiation/temperature is called the emissivity. For instances, a brick wall does not reflect or transmit but absorbs most of the incident radiation and has a high emissivity, shiny metal that reflects most of the energy has a low emissivity, glass that transmits most energy has a low emissivity. Because gases have low densities and transmit much of the energy they have low emissivity.
A = surface area, m^2. Implies a “surface.”
K = absolute temperature, Kelvins. 0 C = 273 K.
The 240 W/m^2 LWIR leaving the ToA at 100 km has a S-B BB temperature of 255 K. The ACS tool kit et. al. say this is the predicted temperature of the earth without an atmosphere. Since the 240 W/m^2 is the net after the reflection of the atmosphere’s albedo and occurs at the ToA it’s pretty obvious that is not so. Without an atmosphere the 340 W/m^2 would travel straight to the surface and emit back into space. No clouds, no oceans, no water vapor, no N2, O2, Ar, or CO2. There would be an albedo, but for a round rock, not much.
Popular wisdom says the temperature of the surface is 15 C, 288 K. IPCC AR5 Annex III Glossary defines the surface as 1.5 m above land. Sea surface is a whole ‘nother thang. Supposedly this means that the “observed” “surface” temperature is mysteriously 33 C higher than the predicted 255 K w/o atmosphere (which it isn’t) and the explanation offered is the greenhouse effect.
So this false conclusion that the surface “surface” is 33 C higher than ToA predicted leads to a GHE theory that is totally bogus. The 333 W/m^2 GHG loop offered as explanation violates all three thermo laws and actually doesn’t accomplish anything, doesn’t alter the net ToA balance, produces zero net heating.

The Jack Russell Terrorist
June 26, 2016 1:33 pm

Great article Dr. Ball. There is also another book out there you wrote the intro to and that is Green Gospel by Sheila Zilinsky. Worth checking out and gives the real agenday behind environmentalism. How come you are never on CBC, especially the Bob McDonald program Quirks n Quarks? Bob still thinks the arctic ice is melting. Hint: Bob, it’s called summer. Of course in B.C. we have Christy Clark running for re-election next year and she said the “carbon tax” will be reviewed after it. Are you ready for a 10 cent a litre increase over the next few years. That is what is being seriously proposed after.

Chris Riley
June 26, 2016 1:39 pm

It is high time we get the U.S out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S. Ideally, the U.N. should be located in Brussels, the undisputed stupidity capital of the world. .

Reply to  Chris Riley
June 26, 2016 1:45 pm

You re right chris, and I think they will have plenty of empty offices soon

Reply to  John piccirilli
June 27, 2016 12:57 am

John, 1:45 pm ! plus many (I am glad I am not the owner of the soon to be empty offices).

rogerthesurf
June 26, 2016 1:57 pm

agenda21 should be exit21! Agenda21 is more dangerous to the normal person than AGW and its BS.
These guys are really organised. Agenda 21 is rife in my city and most others in my country.
See my blog which outlines what is happening in my city and our education system. Almost none of this is official, most of it infiltrated in un-noticed. It works so well that many people ask the government to tax more for Agenda 21 projects and when the government illegally took 100s of hectares of suburbs to “protect” the banks of the waterways few people complained.
(The High Court of NZ found the government had acted illegally buteven this was scantily reported and even those were very diluted.)
One cannot even get the truth through comments published on online media. Criticise the actions factually will basically mean you will be spammed.
I commented using verifiable facts on the article below but only a few ever got through.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/80617955/climate-change-deniers-should-be-dropped-from-panel-group-says
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
Cheers
Roger

RBom
June 26, 2016 2:16 pm

Brexit may just be the beginning of change that gives the peoples of other counties courage to break free of financial and political bondage of the Kommissionars of the EU (soon to be the new GDR) and UN.

markl
June 26, 2016 2:28 pm

lsvalgaard commented: “…‘They’ should be a list of actual names, actual people, keeping it up for decades. If you cannot make such a list, you have no case….”
Wrong. “They” are ideologists comprised of people……organizations, groups, and teams. Individuals can lead these entities but don’t have the means to pursue CAGW on a world basis alone. Part of the subversion is to put the ideology above mere people so leaders are unimportant except to identify sources. “They” are and ideology.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  markl
June 26, 2016 2:34 pm

Multiple ideologies! Socialist, Anarchist, Environmentalist plus political an financial self interest.

Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 2:43 pm

Politics are driven by people. If you cannot name the drivers, you have no case.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 3:11 pm

This is infantile. We can start a list with any name from Obama to Gore to Clinton to Strong. It’s not names that are the problem, it’s fatally flawed and hypocritical ideology that seeks to destroy the Western cultural paradigm in favour of wishful thinking.
If you prefer to accept that the world is filled with good and bad influences that are entirely random and beyond your control then you are in the wrong forum. Dr. Ball’s essay points to a political structure that serves purposes other than science. In fact, it has successfully put science in harness. In that respect, it perverts that science in a manner reminiscent of Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia. It is demonstrative of an utterly cynical mindset. That you appear to be wilfully obtuse in this regard indicates a disturbing degree of cynicism on your part.
There’s an old saying. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem! So you can decide for yourself if a list of names is required and if yours should be on it!

David Smith
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 3:16 pm

Here’s a start:
Obama
Al Gore
M Strong
G Soros
I could name more, but it’d be a wasted effort as Leif listens to no-one but himself once he’s stood on his soapbox

Reply to  David Smith
June 26, 2016 3:22 pm

So, you are admitting that those people are manipulating you. I wonder if Tim Ball has the guts to name those people as well.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 4:01 pm

My reply here was censored. I thought unfairly. I will leave Isn’tvalgaard to his obtuse persistence.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 4:21 pm

Just wondering what, if any offense our moderator found with my missing post?
[none – posts sometimes just get flagged automatically by the system, sometimes 3 or more links can give it a spam signature, in your case there were some trigger words that set the system to hold it for inspection -mod]

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 6:29 pm

Sure AGW is politics. So was Lysenkoism. Identical evils. It took more than Lysenko to keep the scam going. It took institutions and the state to enforce the doctrine, from which many, including ideologues who didn’t give a darn about science, prospered.

David Smith
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 27, 2016 1:05 am

So, you are admitting that those people are manipulating you.

They’re not manipulating me on a personal level, but they are manipulating financial and political systems which impacts on me, you, and pretty much anyone else. That’s what annoys me.

rogerthesurf
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 27, 2016 3:18 am

David Smith,
Don’t forget the Rockefellers. The Rockefeller Bros actually index their supports at http://www.rbf.org/
Search for an organisation under “grants Information” . Can search for subject, name and classifiation etc.
Quite shocking how the biggest oil in the world funds “sustainability”.
Remember these guys until recently owned ExxonMobil and most certainly have many other oil/fossil fuel investments.
Of course in my opinion they are going into “renewables” where thtere is money to be made farming governments, while all their strategic funding influences governments and influential organisations etc.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

John Harmsworth
June 26, 2016 2:47 pm

Hats off to Dr. Ball. Proud to be a fellow Canadian! I believe your service to science and society will eventually be recognized and may very well play an important role in rescuing science from the clutches of the politicians. I dub thee, ” Sir Dudley Do right”! This is our hour of need!

Rob Dawg
June 26, 2016 2:54 pm

Climate Response Advocacy is perhaps the only field that doesn’t generate a minority report.

June 26, 2016 2:58 pm

The basic science was already established in 1977 and had been for about 150 years. The implications of that science had been established for a good 20 years. Surely any argument that the political framework preceded the science should, I don’t know, show that it actually preceded the science. Just a thought.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Dame Holly Has A Hat (@Lee_Tennant)
June 26, 2016 10:03 pm

So it was established back when the world was cooling! Must have caught on like wildfrost. You’re right, however. The conspirators were already in place. Whipped and bedraggled Socialists and desperate, deluded environmentalists looking for any tool to attack the West, wealth, industry and what they perceive as ” the establishment “!
We can’t exaggerate their stupidity or their cunning. They are a combination of the well meaning but brainless who really think they’re doing good and the frustrated Socialists who hold so much hate for wealth that they work and connive for a political structure that has failed and brought misery to millions since its invention by a useless, indolent loser.

June 26, 2016 3:06 pm

Liberalism begins in a person’s youth, when they transition from the easy make-believe fluidity between reality and fantasy into the hard truths of being an adult in the real world. When a person gives themselves permission to continue to live in a world of their own making, where reality itself is continually malleable and plastic, that person considers the outside world a place he may be forced to conform with, but that is not where he lives. He lives in a world of his own truth, which in essence is a lie.
When liberals like the lies that others tell themselves, they share a common “narrative”, which is itself a little capsule of liberalism. They pass it around, as it “resonates” with each person.
As a liberal builds upon these narratives, they adopt them internally and they become part of how the liberal defines himself. When you disagree or even worse, when you disprove one of these narratives, you have rejected a part of their self-identity, of who they are. So, of course, you must be a H8R, and your proof is just H8ful language.

David Smith
Reply to  buckwheaton
June 26, 2016 3:20 pm

Too true.
Additionally: Liberals are invariably people who lack any liberality of thought and just lock themselves to one idea. Anyone else who believes otherwise are obvioulsy just d3ni3r scum

Reply to  David Smith
June 27, 2016 8:05 am

The same can be said for far-right ideology. Our problem today is that there seems to be no middle ground where compromise is possible.

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