From the “arch denier Watts leads the way” department (see my photos below) I thought it would be interesting to see how many climate scientists actually have solar power on their home, so I did an aerial survey to find out. The results don’t speak well for them. Don’t worry, I did not disclose anyone’s address – Anthony
Climate scientists are more credible when they practice what they preach
People are more willing to take advice from climate researchers who reduce their own carbon footprint
Americans are more likely to follow advice about personal energy use from climate scientists who minimize their own carbon footprint, according to Shahzeen Attari of Indiana University’s School of Public and Environmental Affairs. She and her team used two large online surveys to determine that scientists should practice what they preach if they want their advice on reducing energy use to have greater credibility. Their findings are published in Springer’s journal Climatic Change.
Personal attacks on climate experts and advocates are not uncommon when it comes to their own behavior. For example, environmentalist and former vice president Al Gore was criticized for home energy use that far exceeded the national average.
Attari and her team conducted the online surveys with about 3,000 Americans to see the impact of the researchers’ credibility on their messages and advice. Participants were randomly presented with fictional vignettes about a climate expert presenting a talk on how an individual’s actions can collectively have a large impact on the environment.
The surveys began with a baseline narrative: a leading climate researcher is giving a talk about the merits of reducing air travel and lowering the amount of energy used in the home. The researcher gives advice to the audience on how they can reduce their own energy use.
The survey participants were then asked to judge the impact of a range of actions by the researcher including this one: “During the question period a member of the audience asks the researcher whether he flew across the country to give this talk. He replies that he regularly flies to lectures and conferences all over the world. It is part of his job, though flying like this does lead to negative impacts on the climate.”
The surveys showed that audiences are less concerned with transportation habits than home energy use. A scientist who buys carbon offsets is seen more positively but it doesn’t wipe the slate clean.
“Credibility may require climate researchers to decrease their carbon footprint,” Attari said. “Effective communicators about climate change do sometimes discuss their own behavior and our research indicates that this can be a good way to enhance their credibility,” Attari added. “Whether the climate scientists are male or female, what they do in private can have a pronounced effect on how their message is perceived by the public.”
She continued, “To communicate effectively, advocates of energy conservation need to be the change they wish to see. Climate researchers, including the three authors of this study, need to make strong efforts to reduce their own carbon footprints.”
Still to be determined is whether the effects on credibility and on intentions to conserve are temporary or enduring, the study reports. Another open question is whether the personal behavior of scientists is a factor when lawmakers consider changes in the nation’s policies on climate change.
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Reference: Attari, S. Z. et al. (2016). Statements about climate researchers’ carbon footprints affect their credibility and the impact of their advice, Climatic Change. DOI 10.1007/s10584-016-1713-2
It is interesting to note that Mike Mann’s house near State College PA, the address of which is available on the web from a variety of public sources, shows no trace of solar power:
(UPDATE: It seems that Google identified the wrong house in street view, and because of that, the wrong house was presented in the initial post. With the help of a realtor, the correct house was located using a different service. The updated location and the previous one is shown below. It doesn’t have solar. I apologize for any confusion this might have caused.)
I won’t disclose his address, or the address of others below (I’ve pixelated out street names too), because I don’t want to make it easy for anyone to harass them over this. Solar panels on your home are a personal choice, but it sure looks better to have them when you are preaching to the world that we must do everything possible to reduce personal carbon footprints.
Climate scientist Kevin E. Trenberth of NCAR in Boulder (of Climategate fame) has quite a nice home in a private community, information that is also easily publicly available. His neighbor has solar panels, but he does not.
UPDATE: As I mentioned in comments, I’m happy to provide an update should any climate scientist want to show proof they have solar panels on their home. Dr.Kenneth Trenberth writes in to say:
Kevin Trenberth
Accord to Zillow, climate Scientist Jonathan T. Overpeck of the University of Tucson, also of Climategate fame, lives in a “3120 square foot, 3.5 bathroom, single family home”. You’d think that in hot, sunny, Arizona, he’d at least have solar on his home to cool a house that size, especially after rants like this on his Twitter feed:
His home seems completely devoid of solar power as well:
At least he has a white roof. Note: I’m not absolutely certain which of the two house it is as Google’s place-mark for his address is a bit ambiguous), but all the evidence points to the one I’ve indicated. Either way, neither home has any solar panels. (Update: WUWT reader “Aridzona” who is a realtor, identified the correct house from real estate data. The image arrow was changed to reflect this, thanks.)
How about Thomas R. Karl, director of the National Climatic Center in Asheville, NC? He has a six figure annual salary according to budget reports I’ve seen, so surely he can afford home solar power to be put on his home near Asheville. Nope, it doesn’t seem so:
Karl’s second in command at the National Climatic Data Center (now NCEI) surprisingly does have solar panels, but he’s always been pretty green based on what I know of him.
Of course, no aerial survey would be complete without Dr. James Hansen, the “father of global warming” as described by some, who has a farm in Pennsylvania. He helpfully included the address in a letter to congress a few years back. Surely, with all the pronouncements about coal “death trains” and boiling oceans you’d think he’d have solar panels for his house. He does, sorta…he has them for his barn:
Guess who paid for them? You and I did. From the Powerline blog: (bold mine)
The really shocking thing for me was how many times he contradicted himself and made admissions against interest. If he was under oath and subject to cross examination at a trial, Power Line’s own John Hinderaker would carve him up. Example: He said that all energy subsidies must stop and be replaced by a $100 per ton carbon fee. He then later admitted that the solar panels on his barn were subsidized by the federal government. So it was simply a bizarre contradiction on his part.
And then there’s me, “arch climate denier” Anthony Watts:



But, I’m the evil one, according to many climate scientists, anonymous coward bloggers, and activists.
Note: Some typos were corrected within 2 hours of publication. Also with an hour of publication, two images were updated that still showed some adjacent streets that were not pixelated out. No addresses were ever revealed.








Where’s Moshpit, with a pic of his roof and car ?
He’s busy asking Google to photo shop solar panels onto his home pictures
Great blog article Anthony. They say pictures speak a thousand words, they can also speak just one, “hypocrisy”.
Just goes to show, these people dont walk the walk. The question is do they really believe the doom or are they just providing what is asked of them.
Next survey Hollywood
In Connecticut your electricity costs subsidize solar, creating a strong incentive. Of course, this will come a cropper when subsidies end (CT is broke) and equipment starts failing ahead of projected failure rates.
I’m phoned up about once a week by companies trying to sell me solar panels for my roof. Since I live in an ‘historic district’ I’m unable to take advantage of them. The roof of my house doesn’t have the right orientation either.
Do they have them on the Whitehouse?
I believe so. It was covered here on WUWT a year or two (or 3) ago. As I recall, the panels couldn’t be placed anywhere they’d be of much use,but hey! they are up on the Whitehouse roof.
Constantly demonstrating that Liberals are liars and hypocrites is mostly a wasted effort. We already know they are and since they have no shame, they won’t admit it.
The most basic tenet of being a Liberal is to be liars and hypocrites. It’s the only way Liberalism can succeed.
Good point, Matthew. But I would amend it to read: The most basic tenet of ANY “ism” is that it must create and reward the liars and hypocrites it needs to succeed.
Not at all true. In many “ism”‘s, the people in them don’t tolerate and promote the liars and cheats.
Dr. Mann’s home doesn’t have solar panels, but at least it’s ringed by trees. For the cooling effect. Teleconnectedly.
Comparing Anthony Watts to Michael Mann is like comparing George W Bush to Al Gore.
In defense of Dr. Hansen, it looks to me like his barn is the ideal place for the panels, since there are no nearby trees south of them to shade them. With photoelectric panels, the distance between the house and barn is not significant in terms of energy collection.
Dr. Trenberth’s house does appear to have panels (or something similar) on the South side of the roof (I think others noticed this as well)
I looked at that area, and they don’t look like solar panels to me. But if they were, it seems so small in production capacity as to be meaningless.
If they are, I’m happy to make a correction.
It’s hard to say because the lighting is very poor. Only the lowest (most south) one is distinct, but there is something odd going on above that toward the peak of the roof. Using Google Maps to see other views of the area would resolve it nicely, I suspect.
OK, I found the house (like you said, not difficult) – and whatever that mark is, it must be some imaging artifact, because there is no sign of any panels on his roof. Nice house, though!
Look like panels to me Anthony.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn107/Sprintstar400/Trenbreth.jpg
Why would you defend Hansen? It’s a massive house (his barn is bigger than my house). And from the looks of it, he doesn’t catch the metro to work either!
I would defend anyone who is being wrongfully charged. Hansen may have committed many sins, but covering his barn with solar panels is not one of them. Barns are generally large – it’s the nature of the beast, and since you generally don’t heat or cool them, the energy consequence is irrelevant.
Now if you want to criticize the program that paid for his panels with our tax money, have at it!
Looks like Petersen’s got enough panels to run a few lightbulbs, at least during the day and if it’s sunny.
LOL! Even I have solar panels on my home. Graciously paid for in full by the federal government and subsidized (for the time being) by the state’s own electric company. But that will come to an end eventually. Nevertheless, we got a positive return from them the moment we flipped the switch!
No solar panels but cute little UHIs in the forest canopy. And cut Suzuki some slack on that ’72 video. I’m pretty sure he was high at the time.
Well Anthony, with respect you have revealed yourself no better than those that you criticise. I dont drive an electric car and I dont have solar panels on my roof, because I dont want to be benefiting fr9ojm subsidies that disadvantage poor people who end up paying them, for the sake of either claiming dubious moral high ground, or implicitly supporting a view of climate change I do not share.
If you dont believe CO2 is making harmful contributions, why do you have solar panels on your roof, and drive a BEV?
Surely not to rake in cash stolen from the suckers who cant afford these things?
I put solar panels on my home because they made economic sense due to exorbitant electricity rates (particularly in summer) here in California. I paid for them myself, rather than have the government subsidize it. You can read all about it here:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/23/an-update-on-my-solar-power-project-results-show-why-i-got-solar-power-for-my-home-hint-climate-change-is-not-a-reason/
The electric car also makes sense economically for in-city driving, especially when charged from the solar panels. It also delivers a real benefit of less particulate and NOx pollution. Something we have a lot of issues with here in Butte County. It’s also fun and I like to tinker.
I can’t tell from the picture, but does Overpeck have AC or a swamp cooler for his house.
Anthony, maybe people would take YOU more seriously if you ditched the electric Smart and bought a Chevy Suburban? 🙂
If the government through regulations and subsidies causes the price of electric to skyrocket then solar panels become economically useful and proliferate. Gut the regulations and end the subsides and the price of electric will plummet and solar panels disappear.
The government is creating the market for solar panels and not free enterprise. You people who buy solar panels should correctly see yourselves not as “smart” — but as “smart sheep”. You are being herded by the government.
Eugene WR Gallun
We as individuals have to live in the world as it is, not the world as it should be.
If government makes electricity so expensive that radical methods must be done to keep expenses to a livable level, then that is what we must do.
Don’t blame people for doing what they have to do to get by.
Be prepared for those who wholeheartedly endorsed the RICO 20 letter and the Grijalva witch hunt to now accuse you of stalking.
I see you’re also hearing from ankle biters like Leo Smith who think the only reasons to have solar panels is to reduce CO2 and gouge the poor.
Ah, well they accuse me of that anyway 😉 Inviting the Streisand Effect probably would not be in their best interest.
That is because in N Europe that is the only reason.
No one does it because they WORK
Because they dont. The cost benefit in energy terms is negative and the cost benefit in cash is near zero.
I grew up in Tucson AZ and my dad was one of the very first people to have any solar anything, water and then electricity…Dr. Aden Meinel. He did practice what he preached, indeed, we did research at home! A plus/plus.
These guys are all frauds, preaching and then sinning.
Really wish this could be a drudgereport headline… On a “similar” topic I tried to convince a friend of the idiocy of outlawing rainbarrels in CO by actually calculating how much of the total rainfall would be captured if every fourth person in the biggest county (Denver..) captured ALL the rain on a say… 2500ft2 roof. Maybe a hundredth or tenth of a percent. [I forget exactly…. small]. Not only this, but the rain is returned to the environment, just at a slower rate. They just would NOT listen to me. “The farmers need the rain!” is ALL they would say. They will NOT engage and calculate. It is all emotional. We have lost the battle for sane policy in anything it seems….
Practicing what they preach is not their way. They are above all that.
And pointing out hypocrisy to a hypocrite is an oxymoron. By definition they don’t care.
The funny part is even the guys that did have solar had like 10 or 11 panels. On houses that size they would be lucky to be covering a third of their electricity use.
I’m giddy about your article Anthony. By the way Hansen lives in Kintnersville. Note the additional “n” after the “t”. It’s a derivative of Gunther. I used to live there. Lots of Germans.
Lubbock, Texas?
I have to wonder why anyone with a social conscience would place solar panels on his/her roof. Solar panels are almost universally subsidized immensely by extra charges on other utility customers. Those who sign up for solar power are, in effect, robbing their fellow electricity consumers with the complicity of the local state or provincial government. Shame on you, Anthony Watts. You know full well that the global warming thesis is nonsense but you resort to robbing you fellow electricity consumers nonetheless.