Study: 'Climate scientists are more credible when they practice what they preach' – but my aerial surveys show many don't

From the “arch denier Watts leads the way” department (see my photos below) I thought it would be interesting to see how many climate scientists actually have solar power on their home, so I did an aerial survey to find out. The results don’t speak well for them. Don’t worry, I did not disclose anyone’s address – Anthony

 

Climate scientists are more credible when they practice what they preach

People are more willing to take advice from climate researchers who reduce their own carbon footprint

Americans are more likely to follow advice about personal energy use from climate scientists who minimize their own carbon footprint, according to Shahzeen Attari of Indiana University’s School of Public and Environmental Affairs. She and her team used two large online surveys to determine that scientists should practice what they preach if they want their advice on reducing energy use to have greater credibility. Their findings are published in Springer’s journal Climatic Change.

Personal attacks on climate experts and advocates are not uncommon when it comes to their own behavior. For example, environmentalist and former vice president Al Gore was criticized for home energy use that far exceeded the national average.

Attari and her team conducted the online surveys with about 3,000 Americans to see the impact of the researchers’ credibility on their messages and advice. Participants were randomly presented with fictional vignettes about a climate expert presenting a talk on how an individual’s actions can collectively have a large impact on the environment.

The surveys began with a baseline narrative: a leading climate researcher is giving a talk about the merits of reducing air travel and lowering the amount of energy used in the home. The researcher gives advice to the audience on how they can reduce their own energy use.

The survey participants were then asked to judge the impact of a range of actions by the researcher including this one: “During the question period a member of the audience asks the researcher whether he flew across the country to give this talk. He replies that he regularly flies to lectures and conferences all over the world. It is part of his job, though flying like this does lead to negative impacts on the climate.”

The surveys showed that audiences are less concerned with transportation habits than home energy use. A scientist who buys carbon offsets is seen more positively but it doesn’t wipe the slate clean.

“Credibility may require climate researchers to decrease their carbon footprint,” Attari said. “Effective communicators about climate change do sometimes discuss their own behavior and our research indicates that this can be a good way to enhance their credibility,” Attari added. “Whether the climate scientists are male or female, what they do in private can have a pronounced effect on how their message is perceived by the public.”

She continued, “To communicate effectively, advocates of energy conservation need to be the change they wish to see. Climate researchers, including the three authors of this study, need to make strong efforts to reduce their own carbon footprints.”

Still to be determined is whether the effects on credibility and on intentions to conserve are temporary or enduring, the study reports. Another open question is whether the personal behavior of scientists is a factor when lawmakers consider changes in the nation’s policies on climate change.

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Reference: Attari, S. Z. et al. (2016). Statements about climate researchers’ carbon footprints affect their credibility and the impact of their advice, Climatic Change. DOI 10.1007/s10584-016-1713-2

http://www.springer.com/gp/about-springer/media/springer-select/climate-scientists-are-more-credible-when-they-practice-what-they-preach/10266932


It is interesting to note that Mike Mann’s house near State College PA, the address of which is available on the web from a variety of public sources, shows no trace of solar power:

(UPDATE: It seems that Google identified the wrong house in street view, and because of that, the wrong house was presented in the initial post. With the help of a realtor, the correct house was located using a different service. The updated location and the previous one is shown below. It doesn’t have solar. I apologize for any confusion this might have caused.)

mike-manns-house-updated

I won’t disclose his address, or the address of others below (I’ve pixelated out street names too), because I don’t want to make it easy for anyone to harass them over this. Solar panels on your home are a personal choice, but it sure looks better to have them when you are preaching to the world that we must do everything possible to reduce personal carbon footprints.

Climate scientist Kevin E. Trenberth of NCAR in Boulder (of Climategate fame) has quite a nice home in a private community, information that is also easily publicly available. His neighbor has solar panels, but he does not.

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UPDATE: As I mentioned in comments, I’m happy to provide an update should any climate scientist want to show proof they have solar panels on their home. Dr.Kenneth Trenberth writes in to say:

Accord to Zillow, climate Scientist Jonathan T. Overpeck of the University of Tucson, also of Climategate fame, lives in a “3120 square foot, 3.5 bathroom, single family home”. You’d think that in hot, sunny, Arizona, he’d at least have solar on his home to cool a house that size, especially after rants like this on his Twitter feed:

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His home seems completely devoid of solar power as well:

jonathan-overpecks-house-no-solar

At least he has a white roof.  Note: I’m not absolutely certain which of the two house it is as Google’s place-mark for his address is a bit ambiguous), but all the evidence points to the one I’ve indicated. Either way, neither home has any solar panels. (Update: WUWT reader “Aridzona” who is a realtor, identified the correct house from real estate data. The image arrow was changed to reflect this, thanks.)

How about Thomas R. Karl, director of the National Climatic Center in Asheville, NC? He has a six figure annual salary according to budget reports I’ve seen, so surely he can afford home solar power to be put on his home near Asheville. Nope, it doesn’t seem so:

Tom-karl-house-no-solar

Karl’s second in command at the National Climatic Data Center (now NCEI) surprisingly does have solar panels, but he’s always been pretty green based on what I know of him.

thomas-c-petersen-house-solar-panels

Of course, no aerial survey would be complete without Dr. James Hansen, the “father of global warming” as described by some, who has a farm in Pennsylvania. He helpfully included the address in a letter to congress a few years back. Surely, with all the pronouncements about coal “death trains” and boiling oceans you’d think he’d have solar panels for his house. He does, sorta…he has them for his barn:

james-hansens-barn-solar-panels

Guess who paid for them? You and I did. From the Powerline blog: (bold mine)

The really shocking thing for me was how many times he contradicted himself and made admissions against interest. If he was under oath and subject to cross examination at a trial, Power Line’s own John Hinderaker would carve him up. Example: He said that all energy subsidies must stop and be replaced by a $100 per ton carbon fee. He then later admitted that the solar panels on his barn were subsidized by the federal government. So it was simply a bizarre contradiction on his part.

And then there’s me, “arch climate denier” Anthony Watts:

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The electric car owned and driven daily by Anthony Watts
My home solar
Ground view of the solar panels on the roof of Anthony Watts house
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Aerial view of my home showing the solar panels

But, I’m the evil one, according to many climate scientists, anonymous coward bloggers, and activists.

 

Note: Some typos were corrected within 2 hours of publication. Also with an hour of publication, two images were updated that still showed some adjacent streets that were not pixelated out. No addresses were ever revealed.

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June 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Great survey, but would it be possible to include Shukla?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist level 7
June 16, 2016 3:31 pm

The great irony is that it wasn’t long ago that Shukla was regularly berating the performance of climate models and essentially calling any sort of regional climate model results “garbage.”

fah
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist level 7
June 16, 2016 6:40 pm

It is possible. The Form 990 for the IGES for 2014 contains sufficient information to locate his house and confirm it via real estate records. I have done so and have a google map aerial photo. It does not show solar panels. I am hesitant to post it out of privacy concerns and could not see how to email it to Mr. Watts. Anyone interested could surely retrace my steps, but please do not broadcast his address.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  fah
June 16, 2016 9:00 pm

Should be identifiable by the piles of subpoenas and dirty money laying around

Hlaford
Reply to  fah
June 17, 2016 6:32 am

Just put coordinates 😉

george e. smith
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist level 7
June 17, 2016 7:19 am

Hey where’s the Weber in your back yard Anthony ??
Aren’t you supposed to have a barbie next to your thermometer ?
Anyhow great study Anthony. I really missed the windmills on those houses too. But you have enough PV solar to not need a bird slayer.
G

Michael Jankowski
June 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Reminds me of the stark contrast between the extremely green Bush ranch and anything to do with Al Gore.

gnome
June 16, 2016 3:30 pm

A good market opportunity for sellers of dummy solar panels to make it look like you’re willing to subscribe to the narrative, even though you know solar panels are a waste of money.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  gnome
June 16, 2016 3:33 pm

Fill them with insulation and they might come close to saving as much money over 20 years.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
June 16, 2016 3:52 pm

… unless they blow away. If you go to the expense to secure them to the roof and seal the attachment points you might as well use real PV panels, or mount free-standing dummy arrays a safe distance from your house.

MarkW
Reply to  Pop Piasa
June 17, 2016 7:18 am

Solar panels, if they aren’t mounted directly to the roof, will provide shade for the roof, which all other things being equal, should make the attic cooler.
I wonder if that would be the biggest cost savings from solar?

Timothy Price
June 16, 2016 3:32 pm

Good for you. The preachers on the left believe everyone else has to do what they say. But they, themselves? They believe they are exempt!

Barbara
Reply to  Timothy Price
June 16, 2016 5:35 pm

This same thing has been done for some involved in the wind turbine “game” or promoting wind power.
And with the same results!
Suzuki is just one example.

Goldrider
Reply to  Barbara
June 17, 2016 6:35 am

Yeah, don’t see any wind turbines around any of their places either!

MarkW
Reply to  Barbara
June 17, 2016 7:19 am

The Kennedy family fought tooth and nail to prevent offshore windmills from being built near their beach house.

June 16, 2016 3:32 pm

Actually using solar is for the peasant scum 🙂

Golden
June 16, 2016 3:36 pm

David Suzuki –
People are calling you a hypocrite about your carbon footprint, your air travel and your 3 houses. How do you justify that?
Suzuki – The technology hasn’t caught up to my lifestyle yet.

Roxanne
Reply to  Golden
June 16, 2016 5:34 pm

The only time I’ve seen Suzuki was boarding a plane from the front, and there he was … ensconced in a 1st. Class seat … trying not to be noticed by the hoi-polloi having to walk past him.
So much for *his* carbon footprint!
Another ‘gravy-trainer’?

Reply to  Roxanne
June 16, 2016 9:30 pm

You are just a maggot to Suzuki:

Barbara
Reply to  Roxanne
June 17, 2016 8:37 am

A.K.A. as Dr. “Fruit-fly”.

Gary Hladik
June 16, 2016 3:36 pm

“People are more willing to take advice from climate researchers who reduce their own carbon footprint.”
And use their own money to do so.

Paul Linsay
June 16, 2016 3:37 pm

You should do a survey of the offices of the major environmental organizations. Those people should be 100% wind and solar and off the grid.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Paul Linsay
June 16, 2016 6:40 pm

I actually have a neighbor who is totally off the grid (except for a cell phone so he can work for Walmart). he has 200 watts or so from a solar panel and a wood stove (oh, and a gas generator). His cabin is 12’x20′ and lofts down a hillside. His water comes from a spring on his property and he heats water in a pot for a gravity shower. He has a composting toilet and attempts to compost all his waste. His property is a source of flies and vermin, with asian honeysuckle thickets taking over.
Oddly enough, he does not believe in anthro-induced climate change – his motivation is monetary conservatism. He does, however demonstrate the limitations placed on the ultra-conservationist lifestyle.

June 16, 2016 3:37 pm

I would suggest blurring out road names. You identify cities, and many satellite shots also show adjacent road names. With both of those it’s rather easy to obtain an address.

DP
Reply to  Anthony Watts
June 22, 2016 5:06 am

Dear Mr Watts
Less than 5 minutes to locate your place on Mr Google’s excellent mappes from the satellite photo.
I should have been a spook.
DP

Barbara
Reply to  bradpeterson
June 17, 2016 8:43 am

Expand the images and look for any wind turbines in the surrounding areas too.

June 16, 2016 3:43 pm

Terrific post. Warmunist hypocrits.

Aridzona
June 16, 2016 3:46 pm

Anthony-
You have pointed to the wrong house for Mr. Overpeck here in Arizona. It is in fact the house to the east, with the reddish roof. I am in real estate and have easy access to ownership info and have confirmed the correct house. I’d be happy to show you the info if you would like.

Marcus
Reply to  Anthony Watts
June 16, 2016 5:14 pm

…OMG..look at the size of that swimming pool full of…gasp..precious water ! Einstein would be so jealous ! /src off

Pop Piasa
June 16, 2016 3:50 pm

Re: Overbeck’s house, I can attest to a white roof helping to keep cooling costs low. The campus buildings with membrane roofs that were changed from rock ballasted black rubber to white membrane had a noticeable top-floor improvement in comfort during extreme outside temps, obviously we saved on electric.
Nice place you have Anthony, you are a much greater conservationist than they. I think conservationism has been twisted by the greens and hijacked for the propagation of the political agenda.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Pop Piasa
June 16, 2016 3:59 pm

Overpeck, (like a hen) sorry.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Pop Piasa
June 16, 2016 7:07 pm

Since that’s actually Overpeck’s neighbor with the white roof and rusty truck, the guy must be one of us peons.

ferd berple
June 16, 2016 3:54 pm

Al Gore and Climate Science 101:
Everyone needs to take a smaller piece of the pie so I can take a bigger one.

June 16, 2016 4:00 pm

AW, Street names still there on the teaser…

Admin
June 16, 2016 4:08 pm

Hilarious Anthony 🙂

June 16, 2016 4:08 pm

I ask them a slightly different question:
If you are certain that the world as we know it will end in catastrophe if we do not ceases using fossil fuels, have you taken steps to protect yourself and your loved ones by buying property in Alaska?

MarkW
Reply to  davidmhoffer
June 17, 2016 7:29 am

On a similar vein, have you sold your beach house yet?

William R
June 16, 2016 4:09 pm

Those poorly funded public servant socialist-leaning academics sure do have nice houses. Such men of the people. I wonder where they got all that money from. Green living at it’s be$t.

Reply to  William R
June 16, 2016 5:52 pm

I had the same thought.

Mick In The Hills
June 16, 2016 4:13 pm

Good work Anthony.
A while back I thought of outing alarmist activists and politicians with beachfront properties here in Australia.
Maybe they know something they’re not telling the punters?

Reality Observer
Reply to  Mick In The Hills
June 16, 2016 4:28 pm

Some difference in how I view such people. If they owned the property before the scare got started – well, they have reason to fear that their investment will be underwater. Their attitude is therefore understandable (if rather selfish – impoverish as many people as needed to ensure that my interests aren’t affected).
Then there are those that bought it after the scam kicked into high gear – at a reduced price thanks to the fear-mongering. Those are con artists – and should be in jail, if we had a just world.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Reality Observer
June 16, 2016 7:32 pm

I’ll second that.

June 16, 2016 4:20 pm

How come you don’t have one of them 4,000 square foot like the majority of those guys? You going cheap on all that oil money/

Marcus
June 16, 2016 4:31 pm

…Anthony, you are brilliant !

June 16, 2016 4:38 pm

Character matters.
Hypocrisy is another word that may come into play. It’s commonly understood as “Do as I say, not as I do.” But some of who have been around for awhile know that it isn’t that simple. If we’re stuck in a pit ourselves, it’s not hypocrisy to tell someone else not to jump in with us. That’s passing on wisdom learned “the hard way”.
Hypocrisy is pretending to be something you are not, one who pretends he’s not in a pit.
Maybe if Mann had spent less of other people’s money on law suits he could have spent more of other people’s money on solar panels. Just like Hansen.
These people are stuck in a money pit that they demand others fill.
For what? Ego? Power?

Robert from oz
June 16, 2016 4:40 pm

I have a 5kw system on my roof , nothing to do with green everything to do with trying to save money in retirement .
So far about $100 every three months wow I’m so depressed I mean impressed .

Will Nelson
June 16, 2016 4:41 pm

Actually, if they really practiced what they preached they’d have to be living in mud huts and cooking with an open flame.

MarkW
Reply to  Will Nelson
June 17, 2016 7:31 am

Open flame? Only if it’s using wood or preferably cow dung as a fuel.

Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2016 12:36 pm

Food cooked over an open wood flame is usually pretty tasty. Especially steak or salmon. Use cedar or oak and the smoke will add an especially nice flavor.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2016 12:52 pm

Cow dung on the other hand …

PiperPaul
June 16, 2016 4:43 pm

Gee, Anthony, do YOU, a famous “d*ni*r”, use solar panels and conserve electricity yourself? [I already know the answer]

Reply to  PiperPaul
June 16, 2016 4:50 pm

I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe he mainly has them to save money because CA energy policy had made electricity so expensive.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 16, 2016 5:37 pm

May I add that solar panels are most practical at the user end of the grid where there is no need for grid modification as it only reduces the grid load. If the govt wants to help folks do this, I am all for it where it is most practical. I strongly disagree with large scale commercial application of such a low density energy source.

commieBob
June 16, 2016 4:44 pm

Back in the 70s I did a fair bit of work on pv solar. It saved my employer a bucket of bucks by reducing fuel resupply trips to remote locations. The payback was less than a year.
I could have engineered a system that would never need resupply but it would never have paid back its cost. Inspection and maintenance trips were necessary anyway. The extra cost for fuel resupply was the difference between renting a Beechcraft and renting a DC-3.
PV can really pay off if it is part of an engineered system. Even so, it doesn’t become part of the equation until most of the easy energy conservation steps have been taken first.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  commieBob
June 16, 2016 9:16 pm

When doing energy reduction design a host of fairly minor things make all the difference. The politicians who vote funding for these scams have no idea whether they will actually work or have payback. In the private sector a deal would have performance criteria. It shows the contempt government has for citizen’s tax dollars that they seldom use something so basic.

commieBob
Reply to  John Harmsworth
June 17, 2016 5:36 am

As I drive around town, I see many pv panels in places that make no sense at all. In one case, panels were mounted on the north facing slope of a roof (I’m close to the Canada-US border). Somebody’s being ripped off for sure.

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