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According to Reuters, in Guatemala, young girls don’t get raped because they are stalked by filthy perverts, who are shielded by what appears to be a rape enabling culture; Apparently Climate Change is to blame.
Women’s organisations – and funders – are increasingly seeing climate change as a root cause of women’s problems
COPENHAGEN, May 20 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – Carla Lopez remembers the first time she heard a suggestion that climate change was a factor leading to the rape of young girls.
“I was in Santa Maria Xalapan of Guatemala when a group of women said young girls were being kidnapped and raped because there was a water crisis. It was a revelation,” said the executive director of the Fondo Centroamericano de Mujeres, a women’s fund based in Central America.
In the indigenous Xinca society of Xalapan, men often kidnap and rape young girls before marrying them, Lopez said, and for about a decade, the local women’s group had been campaigning to end this trend.
But in the last two years, groundwater was becoming scarce, because of weather changes and increased mining in the region. As women and girls had to walk further to fetch water, the number of kidnappings and rapes more than doubled over that period, local women said.
Read more: http://news.trust.org/item/20160520144607-yi719/
Will those poor young women really be helped if Guatemala builds a few extra wind turbines? Or would it be more useful to try to provide more security for young women at risk of being assaulted, to continue and intensify efforts to stamp out what seems to be a perverse normalisation of sexual violence, a twisted acceptance of rape as a form of courtship?
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I’ve see this cropping up everywhere, this kind of thinking.
It’s natural intelligent intuitive linear thinking within the confines of a concept, unfortunately none of it is based in any empiricism, heck, not based on reality.
They might point to India but that is a cultural problem. Same for the middle east, where as Africa is in tatters and lawless in many parts.
Rapists do not factor weather into their plan, ever, which debunks the whole nonsense claim
Some SJW cretin came up with this cack.
“Rapists do not factor weather into their plan, ever, which debunks the whole nonsense claim.”
The issue is not weather, it is the women being at risk for longer periods of times as they are walking longer distances, and thus exposed to risk for greater lengths of time. If I walk home through a bad neighborhood,. and change my route so that my route is 2X as long, it stands to reason that I will be at greater risk.
Those women would be helped if deeper wells and windmills to pump water were provided and hopefully that is what they are going to do with their grant
This post does not make it clear that the source of the article was in fact a charity. Perhaps the author of this post missed this request at the bottom of the article and should correct the error.
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The increase in CO2 currently saves the world about 15% of the water required in a 280 PPM world. As there is no increase in global drought then net water savings due to CO2 must be preventing such crime.
Of course if the governments of the world offer trillions of dollars for pseudo research, and can blame the climate bogyman for ALL failings, especially their own, they will happily do so.
“this kind of thinking”
It would appear thinking was not required!
I agree, just tack on 10% to everything and blame global warming, it is the perfect pseudo scientific theory
Stats over logic, they probably looked at the hottest poorest parts of the world and came to a moronic conclusion there is a relation between temperature and rape.
The only possible correlation there might be is women wearing less in summer may tempt opportunistic rapists. (No SJW freaks I am not blaming women – Sadly I have to make that distinction in this progressive moronic SJW world)
SJW are not progressives. Like the CAGW faithful, they are intolerant, regressive and totalitarian.
SJW is born of progressive ideals.
Liberals of old are terrified of modern pro(re)gressive Liberals
Modern progressives and SJWs are both authoritarian anti free speech movements
Stats over logic, they probably….just interviewed people at our southern border
Two of those young girls were talking at the “water hole” while filling up their water jugs when one girl asked the other one, ….. “What are our mothers going to say when we get back home and tell them that we were raped twice today?”
The second girl quickly responded, “RAPED TWICE?? … But, but ….. we were only raped one time.”
And the first girl responded, …. “But we are going back the same path we got here, right?”
How on earth can can these people be taken seriously? It is horrifying to contemplate the fact that this sort of nonsense is part of accepted wisdom among western “elites”
This is the sort of thing that infuriates me as a human being and as a woman (with three sisters). Rapists make a very deliberate choice to rape. This choice is not an accident, it is not a mistake, it is not caused by outside sources. Blaming anything other than the rapist is evil in itself, as it implies that the crime is excusable under certain circumstances. Rape is never acceptable, regardless of what a culture or society claims. (Yeah, I said it.)
False claims and statistics obscure the issue. Vulnerable people cannot be protected if actual risks are ignored or downplayed, or statistics are so exaggerated that said risks cannot be identified. This evening I read another repeat of the “one in five college students” statistic, in the WaPo magazine. The person who repeated this REPEATEDLY DEBUNKED CLAIM was a woman from my university. This sort of lie tells me that the person telling it is either so ignorant that he/she has missed the repeated debunking and have not bothered to check the facts OR he/she is deliberately spreading false information. Neither reflects well on anyone. I have crunched the numbers for my school, and I have serious doubts that a) 3,000 women are being raped at my school every year, and b) well over 2,900 of them are not reporting it. Pretending that 3,000 women are raped only makes it more difficult to figure out what the risk factors are and how to reduce them. Special snowflake safe spaces are not going to stop rapists from raping, and they are not going to give effective support to real victims.
Instead of trying to use a false flag (climate change) to promote the supposed cause (preventing rape, one hopes), report the real problem (traveling to accessible water is dangerous, and greater distances increase the odds of being attacked). Once the ACTUAL problem has been identified and reported, a practical solution can be implemented, one that might work. Shutting down fossil fuel plants, etc. will not prevent rape, nor will it decrease the potential danger for these ladies in Guatemala. In this particular situation, digging wells, laying pipelines to transport water closer to communities and homes, and/or using cheap energy to provide power and transportation would allow women to access water without traveling massive distances (or to do so via motorized transport). Unfortunately, that still will not solve the problem of a culture and society that condones kidnapping and rape as acceptable modes of courting (or whatever this is supposed to be). Would that I or anyone else knew how to change those attitudes.
I know that was a long rant, but this kind of dishonesty really burns my biscuits. Trying to tie a serious atrocity like rape to a fictional issue is heinous. If state AGs really want to sue someone, how about starting with these jerks?
I dont blame you ranting, diluting the cause of rape with nonsense is detrimental.
Much of Guatemala has a very pleasant climate being at an altitude between 1000 and 2000 meters . I recommend Lake Atitlan as a spectacular vacation spot .
I wonder how much , if at all , the local temperatures have changed over anybody’s lifetimes there . It’s astounding what a change barely a human jnd ( just noticeable difference ) can do to drive people insane .
Will those poor young women really be helped if Guatemala builds a few extra wind turbines? Or would it be more useful to try to provide more security for young women at risk of being assaulted, to continue and intensify efforts to stamp out what seems to be a perverse normalisation of sexual violence, a twisted acceptance of rape as a form of courtship?
I am pretty sure that lawlessness in cultures that have women as subservient castes is what causes rape to be prevalent.
Since NATO destroyed Libya, thousands of women have been raped then mutilated by crackpot Muslims. Before that it was a civil secular society
Mark, you forget that CAGW, not NATO force, not ME religious political factions at war, not Hillary saying
we came, “we saw, he died” speaking of the killing of Gaddafi, not regime change with no rational plan, is blamed for the N.A. and M.E. refugees as well.
How is this insanity so prevalent? Have we really evolved or devolved as a group?
Concepts seem to replace reality everywhere I look and people (90%) cant tell the difference and dont understand what I mean when I point it out to them
Hey Mark – Helsinki! “Have we really evolved or devolved as a group?”
Yes. Yes, we have.
Western culture, industrialized western culture, has become so distanced from any traditional life style that large fractions of our population are effectively insane. No one doubts that if you take an infant and let him grow up in a state of confined bed rest, his body will be completely atrophied and essential unusable. The mental and emotional state of many of our citizens is the psychological equivalent of that atrophied body. They have never developed either their logical abilities nor their ethical strengths because they have never had too. They have grown to “adulthood” in a culture that has been so prosperous that they never suffered any negative consequences from their lack of growth.
I feel very sorry for them — but I have no idea how the situation can be rectified without serious pain and suffering.
I really don’t want to go there on the core subject of this post, but only to comment that whilst mining is cited as a possible reason for the water crisis, a general lack of water means people have to walk further in order to fetch it, with another cause likely to be an explosion in population from 4.5 million in 1960 to 15.5 million today.
The increase in population around the world is extraordinary, often in poor or already climatically compromised countries that can least afford it. This affects water, food and other resources. The trouble is that often when it is mentioned here commentators mutter about Malthus.
tonyb
I think the reason folks start muttering about Malthus is, often times, the lack of food, water and other resources is due to a lack of transportation and other infrastructure caused by corrupt leaders and government organizations, not lack of availability of the resources.
That’s pretty accurate, and something well established for most cases.
Ethiopia’s famine was largely driven by the World Bank getting them to move from agriculture of food to more profitable things, and when drought hit, they had no capacity to deal with it.
SMC, Research the idea of virtual water. You will find your conceptual gold. Then, consider poor nation virtual water ‘gold’ payments for same in the future.
all that has nothing to do with CO2 though, that’s the point, that is where we disagree, not the imaginary argument you concocted
Yes, wind turbines ! And pepperspray. And windturbines, of course.
This will tick off a lot of people, but I am a fan of handguns and rifles as rape whistles. 🙂
Follow the money! The global warming causes rape claims are all about women’s groups getting access to the Green Climate Fund. Notice this paragraph from the Reuters article.
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Efforts to build the capacity of women’s groups to seek climate finance will be important, Lopez and Garcia said. They urged the international Green Climate Fund – which is expected to handle a large share of the coming flow of climate cash – to work closely with regional “green” grant giving organisations.
All too true–Climate change as a funding rationale. Very convenient thing that one can blame for almost anything.
Almost?
Anything bad, that is. But nothing good can ever be attributed to “climate change”, just like nothing good can ever be said about the rise in CO2.
But in fact, more warmth is good, and more CO2 is greening the earth. Neither one has any downside.
It’s just like science, tack on climate change, get funding, essentially a money for lies deal
It is just another part (of a vast collection of human experiences intersecting with the natural world) of the mysticism being ingrained into the religion of Climate Change.
Pay alms to the priests of Climate Change and their sacred (self enriching, self promoting) causes, and can be a part of the “healing.”
Pure, straight on religious mysticism. Take it on faith.
Not good ole Siants worship? BS
PS ~ If there is no God, what is wrong with what the rapists do? What “sin” are they guilty of? Not living up to your moral standards? The great god of bit by bit begs to differ, it seems to me.
So doing something practical such as building a water source closer isn’t a good idea why? Because it fixes various problems? Changing the culture which is encouraging bad behavior isn’t an option?
You’re right Mark. These Climate zealots are quick to rely on science when they think it backs their faulty scripture, just like any other religion. This article with its premise is made out of whole cloth. I’m reminded of when Pat Robertson said that a particularly nasty hurricane had struck the U.S. because God had given up on America due to our culture becoming faithless.
Name a place God has not given up? Just tell that now you know someone informed.
Warmist desperation.
Scraping the filthy slime filled bottom of the green barrel, anything to promote the pathetic zealots of paranoia narrative. All thanks to the jolly green grant machine (taxpayers money) – any lie, anything for a free buck!
What?? Please explain.
but no evidence that this horrific problem can be solved simply by reducing fossil fuel emissions.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2725743
Feminists and Global Warming Fanatics….The groups are perfect for each other…..
They’re joined in a mutual infatuation with the tenets of national socialism, they just don’t call it that. But the political system they both seek harkens to Europe in the 30’s, totaltarian top down directed control of the economic systems of wealth creation
4 steps for dealing with SJW.
When SJW makes stupid claim especially in the workplace.
1). Mild eye roll
2). Light yawn
3). Look at watch
4). Walk away.
More proof that the “climate climate” hypothesis is bad science. Every scientific hypothesis has to be falsifiable in order to be tested. Since the “climate climate” hypothesis claims that climate change causes everything it is un-falsifiable.
“Claim: Climate Causes More Young Girls to be Raped”
It was only a few weeks ago that we were told that Global Warming was making it too hot to screw, and so the population was at risk due to CO2. Now CO2 will make people go sex crazy. For God’s sake, can’t we make up our minds?
Yes they have a theory for every eventuality, which is why it is literally flat earth theory
There is no science here, just as there is no science in flat earth theory
It may surprised you, but the number of total sexual intercourse could decrease and the number of rape increase at the same time. And the study you are referring to was about sexual life in Australia. This article is about Guatemala. Not the same situation.
I could also use the title used by WUWT (“Claim: Climate Change will Stop Women from Wanting Sex”) to explain to you that usually, when a woman (or a girl) is raped, the woman does not want sex. But actually the WUWT title was misrepresenting the article it was linking to (as often). The original article didn’t make a gender distinction.
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I agree with .mod ; )
In a tropical country with tropical rains?
Plenty of water, everywhere.
It is already established that the tropics are not warming, so what part of ‘climate change’ is the cause of rapes here?
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” The original article didn’t make a gender distinction.”
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What? Only about eight references to gender in the small section quoted in the post.
@David A. The original article, the one that WUWT used to write that “Claim: Climate Change will Stop Women from Wanting Sex”, not this article. You can find the article there http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-09/climate-change-and-your-sex-life/7311702 . (My memory was wrong, there is one mention of gender. It ‘s to say that sperm mobility decrease when a bull is exposed to high temperature. Still difficult to deduce from that “stop women from wanting sex”)
Not to mention all sorts of claims in recent years that climate change would increase prostitution.
I think he might mean that the denotation of “girl” is child. Boys were once called knave girls and young females gay girls! Beyond about the late 1400s the connotation and common parlance for girl came to mean female child only. But 2PetitsVerres doesn’t appear to be that erudite. 😉
…what seems to be a perverse normalisation of sexual violence, a twisted acceptance of rape as a form of courtship?…
Er… abduction and rape of women was actually a fairly normal process in most countries in earlier ages, and is still common today in several parts of the world. More commonly known as ‘Bride Kidnapping’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_kidnapping it stems from a time when women were considered property, similar to cattle. The word ‘rape’ (Latin rapere) originally meant to ‘seize and take away’, and the threat of having your women stolen was a major reason for secluding them inside houses after puberty, as was common amongst the Greek City-States. The Romans, of course, famously stole the Sabine women. You will find many similar examples of it in mediaeval Western literature.
Western culture is rather different today, but the practice of abducting women is not a ‘perverse normalisation’, rather, the retention of an earlier cultural system through to a time when that practice is no longer considered acceptable…
I find it a little ironic that Climate Activists might blame this cultural throwback on industrialisation, particularly if their suggested remedy is to return to the practices of an earlier age, when this habit was much more common than nowadays…
Geezer,
Good point. If I may expand on it:
There were lots of things that were considered normal at the time, like stoning for adultery. But we’ve become more civilized over the centuries (with the exception of certain reprobates in the Middle East). But these climate hustlers are no more than enablers of rape. They excuse it with the words “climate change”.
Also, “The Rape of the Sabines” was memorialized in a painting, but as you say, it wasn’t what we think of as rape. One of the tribes on the Italian peninsula, the Sabines, had raided and captured some Roman girls because they needed wives.
They timed it toward the end of campainging season (summer), so the Roman tribe had to wait until the next spring to mount an offensive to rescue their sisters and daughters.
But when the Romans appeared at the Sabine walls, their women came out on the ramparts and shouted down at the Romans that they were perfectly happy in their new role, and they didn’t want to be rescued! (Those Sabine studs must have been real sweet talkers. Among other things.)
So after plenty of consternation and lots of discussion, the Romans accepted their pleas, and left the girls where they were.
That was early in Roman history. Later, all the local tribes were consolidated under Roman rule, or in alliance with Rome.
So, for the young folks edumacated in the Peoples’ Socialist Soviet of California… now you know. And while we’re at it, you should also know that the “climate change” scare is a false alarm.
I believe that you have reversed the roles of the Romans and the Sabines.
Geezer, I’ll follow dbstealey in expanding on the topic:
From Frommers: Tips for Women Travelers:
Xalapan is located just south of Jalapa, which it is considered part of. jalapa is located approximately 60km East, by air, from Guatemala City.
On top of the machismo (bad for all females), some indigenous groups have very different ideas of when a girl becomes a woman: 10 or 11 may be considered “old enough”. There is the added difficulty of whether or not these actions are protected as part of the indigenous culture. If the culture considers the kidnapping/rape normal and acceptable, can Country X prosecute? Do Country X’s laws about consent and age of consent apply to indigenous groups? Every so often, I read about some 10 or 11 year old indigenous girl from Latin America who stumbles into a hospital or clinic to give birth, and the ensuing debate over what (if anything) can or should be done.
If someone had done that to me at age 10, the government would not have had to worry about what to do. My dad and grandfather would already have taken care of it.
Absolutely ludicrous.
Yes. And “climate change” causes more kittens and puppies to die. It could even cause Trump to get elected president. There’s just no end to the evil it can cause.
It seems like building a reservoir and connect the village with modern plumbing would be a good use of green money. I’m sure the rapists would cease to exist after that.
“Women’s organisations – and funders – are increasingly seeing climate change as a root cause of women’s problems
Another: Jump on – Faux Man-induced Climate Change / Global Warming Scam – Gravy Train Chuck Wagon. These $ocial Ju$tice Warrior$ will latch on to anything to aid their cause whether it be Leftist support or $$$$.
The irony here is they are hitching on to very wagons that are making problems into Leftist created Crisis. $ocial Ju$tice Warrior$ are harming themselves.
“groundwater was becoming scarce, because of weather changes and increased mining in the region”
How about they shutdown the Mining in the region and see if “groundwater” doesn’t return? As for “weather changes”, according to Global Warmers, Weather isn’t Climate!**
**That is until they want to claim Hottest April on (man-ipulated) records is sign of Climate Change, which is evidence of Mann’s AGW, thus proof of man-bear-pig made CO2 being root cause.
ClimateChange™ – is there anything it can’t do? Who stole the journalists and replaced them with idiots?
Talk about a straight line just begging for the punch line…
PS I like your trademark on ‘climatechange™’.
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No its true: Climate Change –> warm weather –> short skirt –>
It’s not the short skirt that rapes…. It’s men wanting power over women.
So, if the woman was willing, the rapist would decline, you figure, Simon? Not enough power acquisition? ; )
It’s the old “rapists want power not sex” myth. Why must they be mutually exclusive? Rapist are motivated by both the power and the sex. The honest ones will tell you that exerting power over women enhances the sex. If that wasn’t the case, they would simply dominate their victims by overpowering them and beating them up. Why risk disease from unprotected sex if “power” is the only motivating factor?
Louis”It’s the old “rapists want power not sex” myth”
I was commenting more on the “she’s wearing a short skirt so she is asking for it” myth.
I think that’s exactly what glen was doing, Simon . within the topsy turvy “logics” of the CAGW pushers.