Reax: Obama to sign Paris accord today, Earth Day

From a press release:

Heartland Institute Experts React to President Obama’s Signing of

the Paris Climate Agreement on Earth Day

President Barack Obama plans to sign the controversial Paris climate agreement today, Earth Day. The nonbinding agreement was drawn up and approved by 196 countries at the U.N. Conference of the Parties (COP-21) climate conference, which was held in Paris in December. Signatory nations agreed to reduce their carbon output “as soon as possible” and to do their best to keep global warming “to well below 2 degrees C.”

The Heartland Institute is among the world’s most prominent think tanks promoting skepticism of man-caused climate change. It hosted a counter-conference in Paris during the U.N. climate talks.

The following statements from environment policy and legal experts at The Heartland Institute may be used for attribution. For additional comments, refer to the contact information below. To book a Heartland guest on your program, please contact New Media Specialist Donald Kendal at and 312/377-4000 or (cell) 847/877-9100.

“If you love people and Earth, then you should hate the Paris climate agreement. It will do nothing to help the planet, and it will condemn millions to continued poverty.”

H. Sterling Burnett

Research Fellow for Environment and Energy Policy

The Heartland Institute

Managing Editor, Environment & Climate News

“The president obviously does not know that he is participating in one of the greatest scientific hoaxes in history.”

Walter Cunningham

Apollo 7 Astronaut and Author

Policy Advisor

The Heartland Institute

“It is absolutely astounding that with the various problems currently facing America – many of which could be addressed with the money the president wishes to assign to international income distribution – President Obama would make the centerpiece of his presidency a treaty that will have no positive impact on our environment whatsoever but will have a considerable negative impact on our economy.”

Jay Lehr

Science Director

The Heartland Institute

“Like the foundations of Earth Day itself, the president’s ceremonial signing of the Paris agreement is all fluff and no substance. Facts do not matter and science does not matter; it’s the agenda, stupid. And, unfortunately, the president has a pen and a media fawning over every move.

“Whether this is a treaty or an ‘executive agreement,’ the Paris agreement has no lasting impact beyond short-term costs to consumers and taxpayers. But the green agenda moves on.

Bette Grande

Research Fellow, Energy Policy

The Heartland Institute

Ms. Grande represented the 41st District in the North Dakota Legislature from 1996 to 2014.

“President Barack Obama will sign the Paris climate agreement on Earth Day because of his supposed concern about man-made global warming. However, it is ironic he does so while actively working to curtail production of the one source of energy that is responsible for more greenhouse gas reductions than wind or solar could ever hope to achieve: natural gas.

“Despite claiming to have an ‘all of the above’ energy strategy, natural gas production in the United States has boomed. This in spite of, not because of, President Obama. In fact, Obama has unveiled several new regulations that will impede natural gas production by limiting offshore production, imposing new Bureau of Land Management restrictions on fracking, and imposing expensive methane capture rules that make it harder for gas producers to stay in business.

“Thank goodness this treaty is largely symbolic and we can see the light at the end of the Obama tunnel.”

Isaac Orr

Research Fellow, Energy and Environment Policy

The Heartland Institute

“President Obama is signing an agreement to do nothing about nothing, all as a justification to make citizens pay more. You have to admire the political genius of it.”

Christopher Essex

Professor, Department of Applied Mathematics

University of Western Ontario

Christopher Essex presented at Heartland’s “Day of Examining the Data” at COP-21 in Paris.

“In signing the Paris COP-21 climate change agreement, President Barack Obama appears to be hoping Americans never read the fine print. Unknown to most of the public is the fact developing nations such as China and India were given an opt-out clause in the original U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) treaty on which the Paris agreement is based.

“The UNFCCC stated that developing countries will implement their emission reduction commitments if we in the developed world pay them enough and give them enough of our technology. Also implied in the agreement is that even if we do give them everything we promise, developing countries may still not meet their targets if those targets interfere with developing countries’ ‘first and overriding priorities’ of ‘economic and social development and poverty eradication.’

“Since actions to significantly reduce emissions will usually interfere with development priorities, developing countries need not meet their targets at all. Developed nations do not have this option; they must keep their emission reduction commitments, no matter how badly they impact their economies. The Paris agreement is a swindle that transfers our wealth to the rest of the world for no environmental benefit in return.”

Tom Harris

Executive Director

International Climate Science Coalition

Ottawa, Canada

Policy Advisor, Energy and Environment

The Heartland Institute

Tom Harris presented at Heartland’s “Day of Examining the Data” at COP-21 in Paris

“President Barack Obama’s commitment to the Paris agreement, which will be signed without the approval of Congress, is the worst unilateral commitment made by a president since President Lyndon Johnson committed hundreds of thousands of combat troops into Vietnam – without a strategic plan. In spite of the government spending $2.5 billion a year on its climate change science program, government scientists have not been able to produce any meaningful evidence that greenhouse gases, particularly carbon dioxide, cause global warming or climate change.

“The global climate models government agencies often use to make unjustified claims significantly overestimate the warming of the atmosphere, where greenhouse warming should occur. Already, without the approval of Congress, the administration has diverted $500 million, largely from needed economic development funds, to U.N. bureaucrats claiming they need the money to ‘fight’ climate change. Climate change has been occurring for hundreds of millions of years, long before there was a United Nations or mankind.

“As the ‘evidence’ for limiting the use of fossil fuels continues to disintegrate, the evidence showing wind and solar energies are unreliable replacements continues to grow. What modern civilization can exist on unreliable electricity to run its medical facilities, subways, elevators, heating and cooling systems, refrigeration, and street and traffic lights? Yet, the administration promotes this disastrous program.

“Thanks to modern technology, the United States, along with neighboring Canada and Mexico, have plenty of clean-burning coal, oil, and natural gas to provide for our energy needs in the foreseeable future. According to the Energy Information Agency, the United States in 2015 imported less than 13 percent of the petroleum (including crude oil, gasoline, etc.) it used from outside of North America. The claim that alternative energy is needed for national defense is as obsolete as flintlock muskets.

“No good can come from this unneeded, costly, and destructive agreement. The egos of the environmental zealots, including key members of the Obama administration, will not be satisfied – until they have destroyed everything modern.”

Kenneth Haapala


Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP)

The Heartland Institute is a 32-year-old national nonprofit organization headquartered in Arlington Heights, Illinois. Its mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. For more information, visit our website or call 312/377-4000.

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April 22, 2016 7:12 am

People honestly think it is a coincidence earth day is the same day as Lenin’s birthday?

Tom Halla
Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 7:19 am

Naa–most of the greens I know were former Reds, emphasizing former. Try reading Eric Hoffer on mass movements and their interchangability.Fanatics tend to change topics, not stop being fanatics.

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 22, 2016 7:58 am

“Fanatics tend to change topics, not stop being fanatics”
Well put. Plus when the “revolution” comes to an end the “revolutionaries” become the enemy, of course because Environmentalism is a means to an end, once you get to the “end” the means are no longer needed, ie Environmentalists who will cry aloud when slapped with “breeder” laws and told they cant go and enjoy nature because humans are banned, only them will they see their folly 😀
This is all headed towards 2 classes of humans, the serf colonies and the ruling whatever they call themselves these days, a nice manageable 500 million globally, with most of the world off limits except for the dystopian rulers.
If you doubt this, listen to Ted Turner lament us numerous humans, and then consider how much land Ted Turner owns with no humans on it, then consider his input into this matter behind the scenes along with the Rockefeller foundation and all those green groups Prince Philip (Mr “i want to come back as a virus and kill most of humanity”) is patron of.
The lefties are a tool, a tool of the few mega wealthy who consider most other humans as little more than uncivilised animals.
Once the “revolution” ends, the lefties will be chucked into the same basket as the rest of us and that you can bet on

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 22, 2016 8:00 am

This may sound a bit conspiratorial, but not if you go through the history of how the most wealthy and powerful has regarded the masses of humanity, it is consistent throughout.

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 22, 2016 8:39 am

Interesting, thanks

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 22, 2016 8:55 am

.Fro some reason , no one seems to have seen this. It seems like some underhand,
back-room trickery went on in the final text of the Paris agreement.
” Governments at the Paris climate meeting had initially set the start
date of the agreement in 2020 – with intense discussion over whether
that start date should be at the start or end of the year, according to
. The 2020 date remained in the negotiating drafts almost until the very
end, the diplomats said. But unaccountably the final draft prepared by
France left out the entire clause. .
By that point, after a few late-night
negotiating sessions, a number of countries did not notice the omission. ”
Someone has pulled a fast one on the Paris treaty.
If that’s the kind of bad faith that is going on, time to Pull Out NOW.
If that was not the text that was negotiated why the heck are 135
rushing to sign it this week. Has no one noticed yet?
This isn’t a detail, it could have huge impact.
I would have thought that was good grounds pull out of the signing process.

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 22, 2016 8:57 am

Very few of them stopped being Reds. They just stopped being open about it.
They still have the same goals, they just have adopted new methods of getting there.
Hence the term watermelon. Green on the outside, red to the core.

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 8:05 am

Not only is Earth Day the same as Lenin’s birthday, the first Earth Day was also Lenin’s 100th birthday. Bunch of watermellons.

Reply to  Timo (not that one)
April 22, 2016 8:13 am

“Bunch of watermellons.”
Thad made me chuckle, not heard that one.

Bruce Cobb
April 22, 2016 7:24 am

I like to call it “Erf Day”, because “erf” is the sound humanity makes while enviroloonykins activists punch it in the gut, all in the name of “saving the planet”.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 22, 2016 4:53 pm

Ever heard of ErfWorld? It’s a good comic.

April 22, 2016 7:27 am

GRAND THEFT on a massive scale and Obama is an accessory to the fact…pg

Reply to  p.g.sharrow
April 22, 2016 8:15 am

The irony is democrats cant see that Obama has exceeded his powers and broke the law more than Bush did
Obama basically turned his Oval Office chair into a throne

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 9:00 am

They can see it all right. It’s just that as far as most them are concerned, it’s OK because Obama is doing it to help them.
To your average socialist, right and wrong are based solely on whether they are benefiting or not.

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 3:58 pm

Image over substance. Way o’ the world today.

April 22, 2016 7:29 am

Let him sign all he wants because it’s not worth the paper it’s written on unless The United States CONGRESS APPROVES IT!! PERIOD!!

Reply to  Lone Gunman
April 22, 2016 8:58 am

Then the US congress needs to wake up to the fast one being pulled on this.
The starting date of 2020 has just been “accidentally” left out of the final text.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Greg
April 22, 2016 11:40 am

The US congress can nap until Oct when the next injection of funds are due, which they have not voted for or earmarked.
Greg the only thing Mr Obama can negotiation & sign without the buy off congress is “Lunch”.
that “separation of powers” thingy.

Reply to  Lone Gunman
April 22, 2016 9:00 am

Trust the left wing judges to rule that the treaty is enforceable, even without congressional approval.

Reply to  Lone Gunman
April 22, 2016 9:23 am

Gunman – I see it as more sinister than that. So what is the point of a non-binding agreement anyway? Many gains the ‘greens’ have made are small but incremental and go unchallenged. Funding for this here, a by-law there, a court case lost over there. But the sum of the parts are infused into the fabric like fungus on a dying tree trunk. The longer these agreements go unchallenged the closer to law they become and in the meantime will be used as guidance for making new laws. BECAUSE “we” signed the Paris agreement we should be doing this or that.

April 22, 2016 7:33 am

This is a big mistake. Barack Obama’s legacy will not be what he is attempting to manipulate it to be.
Nature will not cooperate with warmist ideology. This CAGW fad is built on incorrect premises, and once it’s glaringly apparent how wrong it is, Barack Obama’s personal legacy will be in tatters as the world turns on him because of his ignorance and machiavellian manipulations.
Barack Obama’s legacy will be one as the biggest lying manipulator ever caught red-handed by nature herself in the biggest con ever foisted on humanity. Nature herself will convict Barack Obama.
Everything Barack Obama is doing by the green transfusion he’s sticking us with is meant to turn the United States into a earth-worshipping economically anemic country, whose citizens are literally disempowered.
Today’s signing agreement is the beginning of the end of CAGW, and Barack’s too blind to understand that.
EVERYONE needs to stand firm against him. All he’s got is a big f’ing mouth. How long are we going to let this big mouthed bully push US around?

Reply to  Bob Weber
April 22, 2016 8:17 am

What I find most hilarious about this is all the politicians who have been at the beck and call of corporations have fooled so many liberals and lefties into believing that the same politicians are striving to fight the very evil that has fed them since there has been politicians

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 9:02 am

Politicians have never been at the beck and call of corporations.
If that were so there wouldn’t be so many regulations and taxes wouldn’t be so high.
The only thing politicians care about is getting re-elected.

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 11:58 am

Politicians have never been at the beck and call of corporations.
If that were so there wouldn’t be so many regulations and taxes wouldn’t be so high.

Let me introduce you to some economic concepts critical to understanding public choice theory:
1) Rent Seeking

People are said to seek rents when they try to obtain benefits for themselves through the political arena. They typically do so by getting a subsidy for a good they produce or for being in a particular class of people, by getting a tariff on a good they produce, or by getting a special regulation that hampers their competitors.

2) Regulatory Capture

“Regulatory capture” occurs when special interests co-opt policymakers or political bodies — regulatory agencies, in particular — to further their own ends.

one of the consistent outcomes arising from regulatory capture is that the regulated industry can use regulation in ways to increase its benefits at the expense of consumers.

… or, as in the case of Uber’s problems with cities’ taxi cab comissions, regulatory capture is a neat and dandy way to make it difficult for new competitors from entering the market.

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 12:15 pm

That corporations and individuals would seek to use govt to gain what they cannot through the market is a given, it’s also not evidence that all politicians serve at the beck and call of corporations.
That companies seek to influence the agencies that regulate them is a given, it’s also not evidence that all politicians serve at the beck and call of corporations.
As always, when the people care enough, the politicians will follow the people.

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 10:32 pm

“Politicians have never been at the beck and call of corporations.
If that were so there wouldn’t be so many regulations and taxes wouldn’t be so high”
But corporations don’t really pay taxes, those who don’t get to increase a price do. It can be the consumer, the employee, or the shareholder. And sometimes one small tax breaks the camel’s back and there is no corporation, no shareholder and no employees. And the unions will still cheer the ever tax increasing pro-“regulation” (meaning inept state intervention) republicrats.
When all corporations who make a given product (or a substitute) pay the same tax, it’s the consumer who is taxed. So unless the nuclear industry can overcome the burden of increasing antinuclear regulation and pro-radiation fear EPA, the end user will pay the carbon tax.

Reply to  Bob Weber
April 22, 2016 4:00 pm

Trump needs to win this election. Badly.

Reply to  Goldrider
April 22, 2016 7:42 pm

We need trump to win, or cruz

April 22, 2016 7:45 am

Oh that’s right 4-22. I almost forgot it is hate humans / prosperity day.

John F.
April 22, 2016 7:51 am

Has the Senate approved it?

Owen in GA
Reply to  John F.
April 22, 2016 8:43 am

He doesn’t plan on sending it to the Senate from what I’ve heard…I could be wrong

Reply to  Owen in GA
April 22, 2016 5:54 pm

Executive order, I heard.
Obama probably has some money to throw at it, too, even without Congress’ approval. Congress has already passed the budget, and so Obama has money that he can move around within, say the State Department, that has already been allocated for one thing, and he can divert those funds to his favorite charity.
If Congress doesn’t like it, they can pass a bill requiring no money be spent on the treaty, but then the bill they pass has to go to Obama to sign, and Obama won’t sign it, and the Congress does not have enough votes to override the veto.
Obama has a lot of room to manuever. And about nine more months to take action.
The new president, if a Republican, will terminate any funds going to the treaty.

April 22, 2016 8:08 am

..It’s wealth redistribution, nothing to do with the climate ! ” The Greens are so Yellow they are too cowardly to admit that they are actually Red ! “

April 22, 2016 8:19 am

Prince Philip babbles about Indonesian forests and a last chance, as the UK puts up all it’s forests for sale. that made me laugh my stones off

Reply to  Mark
April 22, 2016 8:21 am

..Princess Chuckles is always good for a laugh…or ten !!

April 22, 2016 8:24 am

Catastrophic Anthropogenic Government Whoring.

April 22, 2016 8:25 am

One good thing about Earth Day is that if you have a Culver’s nearby, they are selling ice cream “dirt” cheap today. Or maybe it is “dirt” ice cream, whatever.
A Non-binding Treaty not ratified by the US Senate.
Sounds like a waste of good ink.

Reply to  JohnWho
April 22, 2016 9:04 am

Until a left wing judge finds a sub-penumbra in the constitution that allows the president to declare that congress would have approved it been submitted it to congress, therefore the courts will consider it to be approved.

John Robertson
April 22, 2016 8:29 am

We are living historic change.
As Kleptocracy devolves into Idiocraty.
The business of stealing from the many to enrich the few, organized parasitism, takes subtlety and propaganda to succeed for any length of time.
The usual technique of the big lie, requires at least an appearance of plausibility.
“We are from the government we are here to help you”.
This still works on too many people.
However the idiocy of ;”We the government control climate”. is not going to hold up for very long.
First big storm or natural occurrence that slams into the plans of man, will now be the responsibility of those who control the climate.
No matter what spin they attempt the simplest logic requires their guilt.
If taxing everything that produces carbon dioxide will save the climate, then the government presumes to know what climate is optimum and claims to be controlling emissions to control climate.
Hubris does not begin to describe this level of stupid.
So as government incompetence peaks, they proclaim they control our climate.
Such blatant stupidity will reap its own reward.
King Knut’s lessons will never reach these carefully “educated” lords of the universe.
Just as the lessons of The Emperors New Clothes,will never register on our emboldened bureaus.

April 22, 2016 8:36 am

Obama is signing in Paris
a document meant to ensnare us.
Constitution? Who cares?
He wants One World affairs
With doomsday predictions to scare us.

Reply to  lenbilen
April 22, 2016 8:41 am

Obama’s executive pen strokes overrule the constitution, that’s the reality of the situation

April 22, 2016 8:40 am

But Obama’s negotiators in Paris negotiated with the leader of the summit, another socialist, for a non binding deal.
Essentially making the whole thing meaningless in order for him to attempt to bypass congress
Yep seems legit

Owen in GA
April 22, 2016 8:46 am

I find it funny that in honor of Earth day, the oh-so-green president has been flying all around the world. I guess Air Force 1 flies on Unicorn Farts now!

Owen in GA
Reply to  Owen in GA
April 22, 2016 8:48 am

Of course for me I will be running every light in the house this evening and riding my tractor around the field mowing the grass for good measure.

Reply to  Owen in GA
April 22, 2016 12:04 pm

I find it funny that in honor of Earth day, the oh-so-green president has been flying all around the world.

It’s not funny…. Like the pigs in Animal Farm who insisted that they be the only one allowed to eat apples, he exempts himself from the energy poverty he wishes to impose on us mundanes, because he needs to fly around to save the Earth.

“Comrades!’ [Napoleon] cried. ‘You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eat those apples.”
— George Orwell, Animal Farm

phil cartier
April 22, 2016 8:57 am

The so-called climate agreement is likely to have little effect on the US, other than possibly a few billion in contributions to developing nation dictators or hegemons. The only agreement in between President Obama and the other countries. It is not a legally binding treaty since it is very unlikely to be ratified by the US Senate.
In the mean time we have the prospect in the next election of being faced with two candidates, Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton, competing with the highest ever disapproval ratings ever. That means they will be competing for the dwindling voter turnout with less than a plurality of the voting age population voting for either. The likely vote is likely to be less than George W. Bush’s plurality in ’96, and the bare majorities in 1988 and 2000 for Clinton and Bush. The actual voting percentage hasn’t been this low in nearly 100 years. This sounds like a repeat of the massive anti-progressive election in 1920 of Warren G. Harding.

Reply to  phil cartier
April 22, 2016 9:18 am

So, if the Senate doesn’t ratify the COP21 treaty, it becomes null and void for the US?
Or can Obama superbly ignore the Senate’s vote and enforce the treaty anyways?

Reply to  Jack
April 22, 2016 12:17 pm

Obama can do anything he wants, until either congress or the courts stop him.
Neither congress nor the courts seem to have the desire or will to stop him.

Tom Judd
Reply to  phil cartier
April 22, 2016 10:39 am

Be prepared to (possibly) be surprised. I just read about a car that had all four of its tires slashed due to a bumper sticker that preached hate. What was the “hate” it preached? – Trump for President. In the presence of this example I think there are a LOT of potential supporters who will sensibly keep their mouths closed … till they open them on Election Day.
Republican primary turnout has never been greater.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  phil cartier
April 22, 2016 2:17 pm

He plans to ratify it himself, by “executive agreement”. Since it isn’t a treaty, but an “agreement”, that’s the way he gets to bypass the Senate. And that was a deliberate tactic by the UNIPCC. They knew the Senate would never ratify it.

April 22, 2016 9:06 am

“to do their best to keep global warming “to well below 2 degrees C.”
Below 2 degrees C above the temperature of the end of the Little Ice Age? Merciful heavens!

John Robertson
April 22, 2016 9:09 am

Comments seem to vanish.
We are officially entering the Age of Idiocraty.
When government hubris reaches such a level of arrogance and incompetence that they loudly proclaim their control of our climate,weather and human survival, then it becomes the task of every productive member of society to disband all such bureaucracies.
Nothing is a bigger threat to civil society,human survival than organized stupidity.
Allowing fools and bandits unhindered access to the levers of power will not enhance our lives.
These persons loudly self identify, know them and shun them.
Vote them out and confine them to areas where they can do no harm.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  John Robertson
April 22, 2016 9:29 am

The Age of Idiocracy. From the movie:

April 22, 2016 9:26 am

“But Obama’s negotiators in Paris negotiated with the leader of the summit, another socialist, for a non binding deal. Essentially making the whole thing meaningless in order for him to attempt to bypass congress.”
But bypassing Congress is not meaningless. It’s the destruction of constitutional checks and balances.
How can a “non-binding” agreement endanger America’s economic future and capacity for self-government? Because the guts of the agreement — the reporting, monitoring, and verification “commitments” — are understood to be binding. Those requirements are the framework for a global, multi-decadal regime of political pressure designed to overcome political resistance to climate alarm, EPA’s power plant rules, cap-and-trade, wealth transfers from the poor in rich countries to the rich in poor countries (a.k.a. “climate finance”), and “keep it in the ground” restrictions on domestic energy production.
For further discussion, check out “Crunch Time: Will Congress Rescue America from the Paris Agreement?” ( and my colleague Chris Horner’s blog post “The Senate Must Confront the President on the Paris Agreement” (
For a more detailed analysis, see “The Paris Agreement Is A Treaty Requiring Senate Review” (

George Tetley
Reply to  marlolewisjr
April 22, 2016 11:38 am

Just one question !!! Why are poor countries POOR ?

Reply to  George Tetley
April 22, 2016 12:18 pm

For the most part, because they adopted socialism, not capitalism.

Reply to  George Tetley
April 25, 2016 7:51 am

Typically, because they lack formal property rights, the rule of law, and effective restraints on political plunder. For further discussion, see his essay by Hernando De Soto:

Roy Hartwell
April 22, 2016 10:24 am

On top of which he interferes WITH OUR POLITICS IN THE UK !!!!!!! Can’t you guys keep him holed up in the states ? If we came over to the US and tried to tell you who to vote for there’d be hell to pay !!!!

Reply to  Roy Hartwell
April 22, 2016 12:18 pm

Somebody gave him the keys to the family jet, now it’s impossible to keep track of where he is.

son of mulder
April 22, 2016 10:42 am

Obama has just told us Brits that if we leave the European Union we will be at the back of the queue when it comes to agreeing a trade agreement with the US. I don’t like bullying.
Our leaving the UK is not about trade it is us about regaining our independence to run our own affairs. We will still be in NATO.
Maybe the US would like to form an American Continental Union under the same rules we have in Europe and Paraguay, Arfgentina etc can make your laws for you.

Roy Hartwell
Reply to  son of mulder
April 22, 2016 11:19 am

I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw that as a direct threat !!!!!! I was decided which way I’d vote before, now I’m adamant (and angry!!! )

Reply to  son of mulder
April 22, 2016 12:19 pm

Obama will only be in office for another 10 months. He can’t dictate to the next president.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  MarkW
April 22, 2016 1:53 pm

It could take years to undo what TraitorBama does. That’s the problem.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  MarkW
April 22, 2016 4:22 pm

«Getting rid of the dictator is only a first step in establishing a free society. The dictatorship must also be disassembled.»
– George Ayittey

george e. smith
Reply to  MarkW
April 27, 2016 2:48 pm

Well she is more than capable of doing as much damage as he has, and then some.
So hang on to these ‘ good times ‘ the future will be much worse.

Reply to  son of mulder
April 22, 2016 1:57 pm

hope they have worked out an exit strategy for the following in case the vote is to stay in-
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Steve T
Reply to  englandrichard
April 26, 2016 3:13 am

“hope they have worked out an exit strategy for the following in case the vote is to stay in- ”
The strategy is to vote UKIP in the next and all future elections until they win.

Owen in GA
Reply to  son of mulder
April 22, 2016 9:12 pm

Look at it this way: On January 20, 2017 either Obama will be a bad memory or the US will be in a civil war and won’t be negotiating any trade deals with anyone. Now I can’t guarantee that his replacement will be worth anything either since my countrymen seem to have collectively taken leave of their senses.

Science or Fiction
April 22, 2016 4:11 pm

President Obama is signing an agreement to make the life even harder for the poor.
– And he even got the peace price for something – nobody knows why!

April 22, 2016 4:50 pm

Once he’s out of office, Obama’s signatures on private deals with Iran, China and the UN will be meaningless.
And when he starts crying, send that “constitutional scholar” a copy of the Constitution.

April 23, 2016 6:21 pm

I don’t care what the scumbag is signing. Get it off the wholesome soil of my my country and back to whatever pit it came out of.

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