Hump day hilarity – Democracy poll toll

Josh writes: There is a delightful story in the UK news this week:

After Internet users overwhelmingly voted to christen Britain’s new $300 million research ship “Boaty McBoatface” in an online naming poll, a government official suggested the name wouldn’t be used.

“There is a process now for us to review all of the public’s choices,” Science Minister Jo Johnson told the BBC Monday, per Newsweek. “Many of them were imaginative, some were more suitable than others.”

BBC host Nicky Campbell exclaimed that the government would “ride roughshod over democracy” if it did not go through with naming the ship “Boaty McBoatface,” which garnered 120,000 votes — four times that of the next closest choice.

More at the BBCGraunMirror and, well, everywhere.

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RexSeven
April 20, 2016 8:03 am

Commie McComface

Reply to  RexSeven
April 20, 2016 1:49 pm

HAHAHA – Beautiful! 😀

Santa Baby
Reply to  RexSeven
April 20, 2016 11:02 pm

I tought climate science was settled?

Jimmy Haigh
April 20, 2016 8:04 am

I name this boat “Boaty McBoatface”…

ripshin
Editor
April 20, 2016 8:06 am

Haha…saw this earlier this week, and am glad it made it over to here…too funny!
rip

Paul
April 20, 2016 8:07 am

Now that’s some funny stuff. “Pole Dilemma”, a climate reference?

April 20, 2016 8:12 am

It’s the Good Ship Poley Flop.

Bruce Cobb
April 20, 2016 8:12 am

Old Blighty McBlightface should be proud of “Boaty McBoatface”. Off to do McScience, no doubt.

Patrick MJD
April 20, 2016 8:13 am

I want to see The Queen name it?

Steamboat McGoo
Reply to  Patrick MJD
April 20, 2016 8:51 am

I’d settle for just HEARING Her Majesty say, “Boaty McBoatface”! LOL

Ozwitch
Reply to  Steamboat McGoo
April 20, 2016 2:29 pm

I bet she’d love it actually, she likes a good laugh at the absurd.

Bloke down the pub
Reply to  Patrick MJD
April 20, 2016 9:30 am

Or should McQueen name it.

Phil R
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
April 20, 2016 10:11 am

Queeny McQueenface.

April 20, 2016 8:14 am

Until I saw the cartoon, I thought anyone nicknamed “Jo” was female 🙂

Paul
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 20, 2016 12:00 pm

The cartoon cleared that up? You can’t tell anymore.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 20, 2016 1:46 pm

Not being familiar with British politics, at first I thought it was Trump.

Marcus
April 20, 2016 8:15 am

” Ship of Fools ” seems more apt !

April 20, 2016 8:19 am

Pandering to the Scots.

Steve Taylor
April 20, 2016 8:23 am

“The people have spoken, the bastards”
Dick Tuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Tuck

Michael S
April 20, 2016 8:24 am

They should dub it “The Flying Wasp”. Judge Smails would be proud.

expat
Reply to  Michael S
April 20, 2016 3:22 pm

Excellent.

April 20, 2016 8:28 am

from the link: “Maybe the people who voted online have correctly grasped the “gravity and importance” of what you’re up to.”
You betcha

lawrence
April 20, 2016 8:30 am

And no doubt should the UK people vote to leave the EU, then the Prime Minister will proclaim ““There is a process now for us to review all of the public’s choices,””

Old England
Reply to  lawrence
April 20, 2016 8:50 am

My prediction is that if the vote is to leave then there will be “exceptional difficulties” in negotiating exit etc which will require a further referendum …. the EU doesn’t do democracy – it won’t stand for an electorate which won’t comply with the EU’s views. The normal practice is to rerun the referendum, and again if necessary until a majority is obtained that ‘agrees’ with the EU stance – then, like climate science, the matter is “Settled”.
And heaven forbid that a member state elects a president that doesn’t toe the EU line – they replace him with an EU placemen who will do exactly what they want (Greece, Italy, Austria).
With Obama’s passion for control regardless of democracy – small wonder that he is campaigning for Britain to remain a subject nation of the EU.

Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 9:05 am

Seriously, if the referendum result for ‘Leave’ was to be ignored, there would actually be people on the streets of our cities – it wouldn’t be pleasant. I (completely law-abiding, tax-payer, middle-aged and conformist) would be leading the rioting. I’m not joking.
Obama? He’s gimp. What really annoys me about Americans who can’t help themselves, and need to support Britain staying in the EU, is that they would never, in a million years, allow the US to be ruled over by some combination of states in South America. The idea is totally unthinkable to them (rightly so). And yet they feel the need to open their big mouths and pass some inane, glib comment. Shut the f*ck up, and stick to the problems in your own country.

MarkW
Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 9:15 am

As to allowing states south of the border to run the US.
Mexico effectively runs our immigration policy.

Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 9:24 am

But you wouldn’t want them running your defence or police! If we stay in the EU, they are going to want access to our defence forces to have an EU military force.

Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 10:00 am

A veritable hole in one!

mikec
Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 10:44 am

bazzard1959. Please don’t confuse Americans with Obama. Any American who’s knowledgeable realizes that Great Britain shouldn’t stay in the EU under current rules. Keep in mind that Obama hates Englishmen for what you did to Kenya and his dear father [who he meant twice] but, then, he doesn’t like Americans much either.

Reply to  Old England
April 20, 2016 12:42 pm

Mike, no, I won’t confuse the two. I understand he didn’t like the bust of Churchill in the Oval Office.

expat
Reply to  lawrence
April 20, 2016 3:24 pm

Vail Colorado held a similar contest to name a new bridge. The winner? Bob. They went with it. Probably had no choice given the folks who populate Vail so its Bob the bridge.

Bob
Reply to  expat
April 20, 2016 7:45 pm

I thought Microsoft had copyrighted the name Bob?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob

Sleepalot
Reply to  lawrence
April 21, 2016 6:53 am

That was the point of open-door immigration – to swing the referendum. We couldn’t have a referendum until they’d imported enough people to get the desired result.

Robert
April 20, 2016 8:39 am

“The Junk Science Junk” was the obvious choice.

Richard G
Reply to  Robert
April 21, 2016 3:58 am

They could use the ship for junk science junkets.

Steve Oregon
April 20, 2016 8:40 am

If I were in charge……..The Titanice

April 20, 2016 8:51 am

Boaty McBoatface might be the ideal name for a research vessel that carries believers in CO2-controlled climate.

Green Sand
April 20, 2016 8:51 am

In certain UK government funded research centers it has already been aptly dubbed ‘RRS Grant Seeker’

Reply to  Green Sand
April 20, 2016 9:12 am

Green Sand….shouldn’t that be “HMS Grant Seeker” ?
(I don’t know RRS)

Green Sand
Reply to  kokoda
April 20, 2016 9:18 am
indefatigablefrog
Reply to  Green Sand
April 20, 2016 12:27 pm

How weird. That’s almost exactly the joke that I made here on WUWT, yesterday.
The science minister suggested that they needed a name that represented the “spirit of scientific research” (or somesuch thing).
I suggested that then we would have preferred “Rent-Seeker McBoondoggle-face”.
Great minds – and all that.
Or perhaps – little things please little minds. Take yer pick!!

empiresentry
April 20, 2016 8:56 am

Consensus only counts when its approved by the elite non-consensus.

MarkW
Reply to  empiresentry
April 20, 2016 9:17 am

I’ve lost track of the number of times a socialist has lectured on how the will of the majority is paramount and must always be obeyed when the majority agrees with him, only to see the same person take the position there must be limits on democracy when the majority disagrees with him.

Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2016 9:37 am

Nobody wants THOSE ignorant bastards to run things. All sort of depends on what policy priorities you put in for “those” doesn’t it? I’m no fan of direct democracy but it sure is fun seeing those who are falling all over themselves to distance themselves from Mc Boatface.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2016 10:32 am

That’s why the best govt is a small, limited one.
Let the people run their own lives. That way any mistakes that are made are small and self correcting.

Alba
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2016 11:23 am

Are you suggesting that the Conservative politician Jo Johnson is a socialist? If not, what is the point of your comment?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2016 3:44 pm

MarkW
The problem is the masses are such a rude bunch – completely untrustworthy with actual votes that have meaning. What is needed is an elite, say forming a party of the clever, who will cast the ‘real’ votes so as to guide the unwashed. We could call them ‘super-delegates’.

Ivor Ward
April 20, 2016 9:05 am

It would have been simpler for them to simply name it the “Sir John Franklin” but it matters not now because whatever they call it, it will always be known as Boaty McBoatface.

joelobryan
April 20, 2016 9:11 am

Endurance II.
Shackleton’s Endurance was of course caught in pack ice in the Weddell Sea and crushed.

expat
Reply to  joelobryan
April 20, 2016 3:27 pm

Why no Shackelton? He made it as well as all the crew.

williamhhowell
Reply to  expat
April 21, 2016 12:14 pm
Javert Chip
April 20, 2016 9:13 am

And politicians wonder why people despise and distrust them.
“Boaty McBoatface” isn’t really any more ludicrous than “Titanic”, named after the Titans of Greek mythology (and unsinkable before it sunk).

MarkW
Reply to  Javert Chip
April 20, 2016 9:19 am

Just to be fair, it was the press that proclaimed the Titanic to be unsinkable, not the owners or builders.
Back then the idea was that the purpose of lifeboats was to ferry passengers to a rescue vessel, which is why they didn’t emphasis having enough lifeboats for all passengers.

Analitik
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2016 4:46 pm

On lifeboats, it was suggested that one of the lifeboats on the new vessel should be named Boaty McBoatface as recognition of the public poll result

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
April 21, 2016 5:53 am

At a time when enough lifeboats were not required by law. Many lifeboats were removed from the original design in favor of…luxury! Esp after bulkhead 6 from the bow. It was also claimed the bulkheads were watertight, they were not.

Michael Maddocks
April 20, 2016 9:27 am

In the same way that tribal shamans gave people the illusion of control over nature, democracy today gives people the illusion of control over the government.

April 20, 2016 9:28 am

The victory of the establishment over populism.
Just think of the pride of the commanding officer of the Boaty McBoatface as he or she crosses the brow, hears the bells, and then over the 1MC (or whatever the British call their intercom), the bosun’s mate announces “Boaty McBoatface Arriving.”

Nylo
April 20, 2016 9:28 am

Actually if it were a democratic thing, “Blas de Lezo” should have won, and it had so much more personality! But they didn’t allow it to continue in the contest (it was in the lead by the time it was removed). After all he did for the British knowledge of the submarine world!

D. J. Hawkins
April 20, 2016 9:31 am

Boaty McBoatface…why do I keep picturing in my head something that could be a companion of Thomas the Tank Engine from the island of Sodor?

Dr. Dave
April 20, 2016 9:44 am

Keeping with Josh’s theme… Eggy McEggonmyface

Travis Casey
April 20, 2016 9:56 am

Fraudy McFraudface Mann ~In the voice of Mark Steyn

April 20, 2016 10:19 am

Actual democracy in the internet age could be considered a form of insanity, especially when the internet is used as the voting machine.

Gary
April 20, 2016 10:21 am

I read in the article’s comment section: “Pole Dancer.” I like that one.

Resourceguy
April 20, 2016 10:29 am

Next time ask them if they would pay a direct income tax to Brussels.

Greg
April 20, 2016 10:43 am

This has nothing to do with democracy, it was an online POLL furcrisake. Like opinion polls are supposed to find out what people think, they do not determine the next government.
What this internet pole established is that no one gives shite about the name of the boat.
Jo-Jo said: fine, we just though we’d ask. Since no one gives a shite, I suppose we’ll have to think of one ourselves.

GTL
April 20, 2016 10:54 am

After Internet users overwhelmingly voted to christen Britain’s new $300 million research ship “Boaty McBoatface” in an online naming poll, a government official suggested the name wouldn’t be used.
“There is a process now for us to review all of the public’s choices,” Science Minister Jo Johnson told the BBC Monday,

Here is an opportunity for the press to enforce the will of the people over the will of Science “Reich Marshal”l Jo Johnson. Use the peoples choice of name whenever reporting on this boondoggle and ignore any other name given.

GTL
Reply to  GTL
April 20, 2016 10:55 am

That’s “Reich Marshall”

Reply to  GTL
April 20, 2016 12:32 pm

Actually it’s Reichsmarschall.

Pamela Gray
April 20, 2016 11:00 am

Kinda reminds me of the popular vote for Trump.

Andrew D Burnette
April 20, 2016 11:01 am

Too late to vote? How about “The Science Junk”

Ed Zuiderwijk
April 20, 2016 11:14 am

I’m afraid that cartoon shows Boris Johnson, the mayor of London.
Jo Johnson is someone else altogether: https://www.gov.uk/government/people/jo-johnson.
Personally I wouldn’t want to work on a boat named by the weakest link in the UK population. Call me superstituous.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 20, 2016 12:38 pm

Yep, that’s the guy, he does look very much like his brother, Boris, but Jo is definitely the guy in the cartoon 😉

CaligulaJones
April 20, 2016 11:22 am

The National Hockey League learned its lesson about online voting when it allowed “fans” to vote for its All Star team this year. John Scott, who charitably could be called a fringe player (i.e., a goon whose sole skill is fighting other players) was voted as a starter.
What year is it now?

Doubting Rich
April 20, 2016 12:09 pm

It shows how humourless, fold and lacking in imagination the idiots running the country are. Just give it a sensible official name (the master is not going to want to use that as a callsign) but flood the nation with Boatie McBoatface merchandise, open a website to track its research, give the crew jackets and T-shirts with the name and a cute logo. No-one cares what the name on the register is. They care how it is presented.

London247
Reply to  Doubting Rich
April 20, 2016 1:19 pm

I agree with the merchandising aspect. But now the ship will always be known as ” Boaty McBoatface”. The elites will try and impose their ideology, and whilst I initially regarded this as a silly story, it is an affront to democracy. “They” know better hence the EU president and Council of Ministers are appointed.
It is inconceivable that the people should have a voice in the matter of naming a ship. They may vote for the wrong sort of government and we cannot have that. “We” know best.
Democracy is government of the people, for the people, by the people. Tyranny and dictatorship are the alternatives.
So now I have concluded the ship should be RRS Boaty McBoatface. It is a memorable name and people, especially, children will follow its important research activity.
On a lighter side, woebetide any Chancellor of the Exchequer talking of scrapping or selling the RSS Boaty McBoatface due to austerity measures. There will be riots in the nurseries and primary schools up and down the country and putting a wailing child to bed will upset a lot of mothers and fathers. And they have votes.

Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2016 1:06 pm

Most scientific organisations would pay big money for such name recognition.
Here it’s being given to them free and they don’t want it. Sheesh.

Robin Hewitt
April 20, 2016 1:14 pm

They are looking for the original source. Best guess to date a zoo owl, named by by his sponsor, Hooty MacOwlface

Gunga Din
April 20, 2016 1:52 pm

I don’t know what the research vessel is going to be researching. Maybe it’s a good thing. I don’t know.
But from the name and the cartoon, is the captain going to be Donald McDonalds? 😎

williamhhowell
Reply to  Gunga Din
April 21, 2016 12:20 pm

More likely to be Major Major Major.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Major_Major_Major

April 20, 2016 2:26 pm

I believe Boaty McBoatface is here to stay, like it or not. I don’t know what would annoy Gang Green more, the name or the sense of humor shown by the “common” people. That they are not taking the science ship’s missions seriously is, of course, a boon. I do like the merchandising idea and I hope somebody runs with that.
Rising up in fun to mock this foolishness is wonderful (better and less deadly than rising up in anger). More power to it, I say.

Nigel S
April 20, 2016 2:28 pm

The ancient British tradition of taking the pi**, it’s how we won the war, singing rude songs about AH’s testicle.

Martin A
April 20, 2016 3:00 pm

Itler, he only had one ball
goering had two but very small
himler was very similar
and poor old goebals had no balls at all

Nigel S
Reply to  Martin A
April 21, 2016 12:04 am

Time for another verse or two featuring sex poodles and hokey shticks. There’s another war to be won.

DonM
April 20, 2016 3:52 pm

this explains why the site was down for repair & remodeling and I wasn’t allowed to contribute my suggestion for the boat name.

Analitik
Reply to  DonM
April 20, 2016 4:54 pm

When did you try to vote? At one point the site crashed due to the number of people trying to vote for Boaty McBoatface

DonM
Reply to  Analitik
April 21, 2016 9:42 am

might have been about a month ago. The website said something about enjoy watching the cute penguin while you wait….
I didn’t know anything about Boaty then, or I would have been on board with that name too.

u.k(us)
April 20, 2016 5:02 pm

Never underestimate your audience.

CodeTech
April 20, 2016 5:21 pm

Looks to me like an object lesson about how intelligent “the consensus” sounds to everyone else.
On the other hand, it’s also a reminder of what the current generation finds humorous… which is pretty horrible on its own.

jake
April 21, 2016 4:22 am

I have concluded the ship should be Boaty McBoatface RRS. It is an easy name to remember and people, especially children continue their important research activity.
On a lighter, poor Minister of Economy talking about scrapping or sale of the RSS Boaty McBoatface due to austerity measures side.

Richard
April 21, 2016 5:53 am

If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.
Mark Twain

Richard Barraclough
April 21, 2016 7:00 am

And in related news, apparently the Royal Navy’s new aircraft carrier is to be named Warshippy McWarface. Vladimir Putin is already shaking in his shoes.

Gary Hladik
April 21, 2016 11:51 am

This reminds me of an online poll I saw some years ago, in which NASA was looking for a new motto. The leading entry at the time was “All your space are belong to U.S.” 🙂

tadchem
April 22, 2016 5:52 am

But “Boaty McBoatface” was arrived at by consensus, and the consensus is NEVER wrong!
/sarc

lorenz
April 25, 2016 12:37 pm

Boaty McBoatface cannot be a research ship. There’s no research to be done. The science is settled.

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