Scientific Elitism Is Fundamentally Destructive To Science

Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Melanie Phillips’ article in The Times was highlighted with other information on WUWT that speaks to the loss of integrity in climate science and science in general. It is well-stated and germane but overlooks part of a larger problem that pervades the history of science. It involves a group that establishes themselves as the authority on a particular area of science. They then attack anyone who questions their prevailing wisdom. They control the curriculum in schools and universities and extend their control through professional societies. They establish themselves as a scientific elite who reject an idea and/or the author, thus blocking the very essence and dynamism of science. It is another form of “the science is settled” and “the debate is over.” Proponents of the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) knew that most scientists would accept without question their claims because they were the scientific elite. Most elitists in the AGW crowd were the new fangled computer modelers. I watched the takeover of climatology by the modelers. They quickly became the keynote presenters at conferences. Pierre Gallois summarized the situation with what is still true for most people today.

If you put tomfoolery into a computer, nothing comes out but tomfoolery. But this tomfoolery, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow ennobled and no-one dares criticize it.

The history of science is replete with examples of how the greatest hindrance to scientific advance is scientific elitism. Science is its own worst enemy. Even those who finally succeed in getting their new ideas accepted pay a very high price. The opposition to the AGW hypothesis confronted the political agenda and scientific elitism. As a result, science is as dogmatic as any segment of society, including religion. Judith Curry is now very aware of what happens to someone who dares to question. It is even worse if the person once supported the elitist views.

The reaction to my recent reference to Immanuel Velikovsky was knee-jerk, ill-informed, and a classic example of scientific elitism. I suspect that like so many such reactions they are by people who read or know little about the events and issues involved. I also suspect because it occurs all the time, that definitive opinions are based on a minor matter unrelated to the whole story. As G. K. Chesterton explained,

The thing which the world suffers just now more than from any other evil is not the assertion of falsehood, but the endless repetition of half-truths.

I was falsely accused, along with Anthony Watts, of “pushing“ Velikovsky.

gavin-veliokovsky

I was admonished for using him as a poor example because he represented “pseudo-science”. Who and how do you determine that someone or their work is pseudo-science? In this case, it is simply the endless repetition of half-truths because Velikovsky’s education and scientific affiliations don’t support the claim.

“he learned several languages as a child, was sent away to study at the Medvednikov Gymnasium in Moscow, where he performed well in Russian and mathematics. He graduated with a gold medal in 1913. Velikovsky then traveled in Europe and visited Palestine before briefly studying medicine at Montpellier in France and taking premedical courses at the University of Edinburgh. He returned to Russia before the outbreak of World War I, enrolled in the University of Moscow, and received a medical degree in 1921.”

Upon taking his medical degree, Velikovsky left Russia for Berlin. There, with the financial support of his father, Velikovsky edited and published a pair of volumes of scientific papers, translated into Hebrew, titled Scripta Universitatis Atque Bibliothecae Hierosolymitanarum (“Writings of the Jerusalem University & Library”). He enlisted Albert Einstein to prepare the volume dealing with mathematics and physics.

 

The Einstein/Velikovsky correspondence is fascinating reading. Much of his discussion with Einstein involved the topic of the role of electromagnetic effects on celestial mechanics. As editor of Scripta Universitatis, Velikovsky hired Einstein to prepare the physics and math section. The attacks on Velikovsky did not influence Einstein; he knew the man and his science. As open-minded scientists, they didn’t agree on everything. For example, Velikovsky predicted that Jupiter was a major emitter of radio waves. Prevailing wisdom said it was too cold and inactive to emit such waves. When the Jodrell Bank antenna was turned on it was swamped by radio waves from Jupiter. As a result, Einstein agreed to pursue other Velikovskian claims but passed away within weeks of making the commitment.

There is little doubt that the major reason for the charge of pseudo-science was his interest in and use of ancient records. The biggest sin of all was use of the Bible while trying to determine similar descriptions of physical events across different cultural references. Everybody knows that until there is data accurate in space and time, it is impossible to understand natural mechanisms. This is the same reason H.H. Lamb gave for creating the Climatic Research Unit (CRU).

“…it was clear that the first and greatest need was to establish the facts of the past record of the natural climate in times before any side effects of human activities could well be important.”

 

As a result of Velikovsky’s research, done with thoroughness and precision, he discovered anomalies that didn’t fit the prevailing sequence of events.

Velikovsky searched for common mention of events within literary records, and in the Ipuwer Papyrus he believed he had found a contemporary Egyptian account of the Israelite Exodus. Moreover, he interpreted both accounts as descriptions of a great natural catastrophe. Velikovsky attempted to investigate the physical cause of the Exodus event, and extrapolated backwards and forwards in history from this point, cross-comparing written and mythical records from cultures on every inhabited continent, using them to attempt synchronisms of the historical records, yielding what he believed to be further periodic natural catastrophes which can be global in scale.

This reconstruction and comparison of historical data to analyze natural events was no different than earlier examples. The use of older star tables compared with the precise observations of Tycho Brahe were used by Johannes Kepler to confirm the Copernican heliocentric system. Kepler was deeply interested in Astrology. Some observe that his three laws of planetary motion are widely separated in extensive pages of astrologic and religious reasoning. Does this make Kepler or several other prominent people in the history of science, pseudo-scientists?

From times immemorial, astrology has been a determining factor in the decisions and actions of men of all ranks and stations. At the begin of the 17th century, great scientists as Tycho Brahe, Galileo Galilei, Johannes Kepler and Pierre Gassendi – now best remembered for their roles in the development of modern physics and astronomy – all held astrology in high esteem.

Velikovsky didn’t espouse astrology, but he did many things that challenged the prevailing views of the mainstream scientific community. Worse, he fit many of the prevailing prejudices rampant in society at the time.

A colleague and I approached the President of our University with a plan to hold a conference on the ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky. He said he would not allow anything on campus associated with that “charlatan.” The President, Harry Duckworth was a physicist and Velikovsky committed the cardinal sin of challenging prevailing scientific views. We knew through questioning that Duckworth knew little about Velikovsky or his science. He simply repeated the gossip without question. The objective of our proposed conference was to show that it didn’t matter whether Velikovsky was right or wrong. The problem was the reprehensible actions of the scientific community. Velikovsky’s treatment holds many lessons for today’s debate over climate change. The scientific communities condemnation of him was the same as today’s claim by AGW proponents that the science is settled.

The complexity of the corruption by the few scientists who hijacked climate science is revealed by comparison. They quickly established their views as the prevailing “truth” through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) by deliberately misusing climate science, but also misusing basic science. They isolated anyone who challenged either part of their false ‘offical’ science in the same way Velikovsky was marginalized.

The Velikovsky Affair

As the brief biography shows, Velikovsky was a Russian medical doctor with a lifelong interest in providing possible explanations for events recorded in historic records. As a multi-linguist, especially in ancient languages, he read original works from several middle-eastern cultures. He was on sabbatical in the US researching a book when World War II began. He stayed and produced works on what the establishment categorized as catastrophism. This contradicted the mainstream philosophical view of uniformitarianism. The latter holds that change is gradual over long periods of time and evolved from Charles Lyell and James Hutton. Darwin took a copy of Lyell’s Principles of Geology with him on HMS Beagle.

Labelling Velikovsky a catastrophist was part of the attack on his ideas from mainstream science. An earlier quote from Wikipedia said,

Velikovsky began to develop the radical catastrophist cosmology and revised chronology theories for which he would become notorious.

Why use the pejorative and subjective adjectives “radical” or “notorious”? All he did was suggest with evidence that there is another interpretation of the official evidence.

His views became problematic for the science community when in 1950 Macmillan published Worlds in Collision. The book became a bestseller thus creating several problems for the science community. Here is a synopsis of issues that provide context to the threat of Velikovsky to the establishment.

• He was trained in medicine, not specifically in geology or astronomy.

• This meant he was not indoctrinated by formal education in specialized academic science – the bastions of dogmatism and intellectual tunnel vision.

• He was born and lived in the Soviet Union; a serious problem in the McCarthy era.

• He claimed that historical records were of actual events. They were similar to proxy data in climate, which suffer the same disdain from self-professed ‘hard’ climate scientists.

• He aggravated them more when he used the Bible as a source of evidence. Wikipedia comments again show the bias:

“Even before its appearance, the book was enveloped by furious controversy, when Harper’s Magazine published a highly positive feature on it, as did Reader’s Digest, with what would today be called a creationist slant.” There it is, the dreaded anti-science word creationism.

• Catastrophic events were contrary to the prevailing philosophy of uniformitarianism.

• His ideas did not conform to established astronomical views on planetary motion. For example, he correctly anticipated the retrograde rotation of Venus.

• He published his ideas in popular magazines and trade books that went directly to the public who might challenge official science. Galileo did the same when he published in Italian rather than Latin.

• The threat was compounded when he followed the success of Worlds in Collision with another bestseller, Ages in Chaos.

• His work was interdisciplinary at a time of specialization. Worse, it blended science with the humanities and the social sciences. As one person explained, Dr. Velikovsky’s work crosses so many of the jurisdictional boundaries of learning that few experts could check it against their own competence.”

• Some acknowledged the scholarship of his work. “Gordon A. Atwater, curator of the Hayden Planetarium, wrote to the Macmillan Company that, “the theories presented by Dr. Velikovsky are unique and should be presented to the world of science in order that the underpinning of modern science can be reexamined….I believe the author has done an outstanding job. In fact, he has gone beyond what normally be expected of a single individual.”

• Many of Velikovsky’s claims proved correct including the higher temperature for Venus; the radio waves from Jupiter; and the nine advanced claims he made in writing at the request of the New York Times before the moon landing, all of which were confirmed by the evidence.

Velikovsky’s story is fascinating because of his innovative thinking and accuracy of his predictions. It is a disturbing story because of establishment reactions and despicable unjustified behavior, so typical of scientific elitism. Harlow Shapley was a leader among the elite scientific establishment. He had a checkered career apparently shaped by his rigid thinking and personal animosities. He worked at the Mount Wilson Observatory, then Harvard College Observatories after graduating from Princeton. He attended the Institute on Religion in an Age of Science, which is at best a most pointed title. He was influential in forming government funded science institutions, including the National Academy of Sciences (NAS). As we know, the NAS had an ignominious role in the global warming debacle. Shapley’s involvement is summarized here;

With the first reviews of the book, the publisher Macmillan came under fire from astronomers and scientists. But sales of Worlds in Collision skyrocketed, and it quickly soared to the top of the bestseller lists. Dr. Harlow Shapley, director of the Harvard Observatory, branded the book “nonsense and rubbish,” but without reading it. A letter from Shapley to Macmillan threatened a boycott of the company’s textbook division. The astronomer Fred Whipple threatened to break his relations with the publisher. Under pressure from the scientific community, Macmillan was forced to transfer publishing rights to Doubleday, though Worlds in Collision was already the number one bestseller in the country. Macmillan editor James Putnam, who had been with the company for 25 years and had negotiated the contract for Worlds in Collision, was summarily dismissed.

This triggers comparison of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) gangs activity in hounding editors and getting them fired.

Macmillan was the only publisher in history who surrendered a bestseller at peak sales. Macmillan was vulnerable to Shapley’s threats of curtailing academic textbooks because that was their major source of income at the time. As with all these matters, the action is blameworthy, but the cover-up compounds the error. Shapley denied any involvement in the action. Velikovsky subsequently exposed Shapley’s role in a letter to the Harvard Crimson.

The discussions between Einstein and Velikovsky centered on electromagnetism. After publishing his Theory of Relativity Einstein turned his attention to the Unified Field Theory. This is not the place to talk about the growing awareness of the importance of electromagnetism in weather and climate. It is the place to identify the openness and originality necessary for science to advance and the reaction of elitist scientists who challenge any who research such phenomena.

Carl Sagan led the open assault on Velikovsky with the arrogant and scientifically elitist title book “Scientists Confront Velikovsky, which implies that Velikovsky is not a scientist. Sagan was more wrong on fundamental issues than Velikovsky. His “nuclear winter” claim proved incorrect. His claims about the temperature and role of CO2 on Venus was wrong. His claim that CO2 is causing global warming was wrong, yet like all scientific elitists he blindly ignores the facts. Instead, he belittles the person who dares to ask questions and looks at old answers in different ways. Sadly, historically, if it weren’t for such people science would not advance. It is dogmatism identical to how the church promoted and protected the Ptolemaic system for 2000 years.

As Michael Goodspeed explains,

It has been said that no great advance has ever been made without controversy. More than 5 decades after the Velikovsky firestorm, questions first posed by Velikovsky can no longer be ignored. At stake here is not just the billions of dollars NASA has wasted chasing chimeras, but the very integrity of scientific exploration. Also at stake is the ability of the sciences to attract and inspire new generations. And nothing is more inspirational than a sense of being on the edge of discovery.

No matter the outcome of this long-standing battle, the time of reckoning is at hand. The voice of Velikovsky’s ghost WILL be heard.

 

None of this is helped by Stephen Jay Gould’s snide, scientific elitist, and inaccurate comment about the mainstream response.

“Velikovsky is neither crank nor charlatan — although to state my opinion and to quote one of my colleagues, he is at least gloriously wrong … Velikovsky would rebuild the science of celestial mechanics to save the literal accuracy of ancient legends.”

 

That is not what he was doing at all. If you want more information on the Velikovskian example of scientific elitism, I suggest you read Velikovsky’s version of the events in “Stargazers and Gravediggers.” I also recommend the 2003 book by his daughter Ruth titled, “Immanuel Velikovsky The Truth Behind the Torment.” But if you consider those sources biased then watch for the upcoming publication on Velikovsky by Joe Fone titled “On The Shoulders of Heretics.”


Addition by Anthony. For the record I’ve never supported Velikovsky’s ideas in the book [“Worlds In Collision”], contrary to what Dr. Gavin Schmidt thinks. But I DO support discussing them in the context of learning, something Dr. Schmidt himself has proven he does not support by his own cowardly actions in person, and by email – Anthony Watts

 

The climate data they don't want you to find — free, to your inbox.
Join readers who get 5–8 new articles daily — no algorithms, no shadow bans.
5 1 vote
Article Rating
209 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
March 6, 2016 3:30 am

One of your best essays ever Dr. Ball, and that is saying a lot.
As a young man studying science, I read all of Velikovsky’s books and many accounts of the controversy. I had no problem with using the religious texts of ancient people since most of what we have from them are religious in nature. You use the facts and evidence you have.

Carl Sagan led the open assault on Velikovsky with the arrogant and scientifically elitist title book “Scientist’s Confront Velikovsky, which implies that Velikovsky is not a scientist. Sagan was more wrong on fundamental issues than Velikovsky. His “nuclear winter” claim proved incorrect. His claims about the temperature and role of CO2 on Venus was wrong. His claim that CO2 is causing global warming was wrong, yet like all scientific elitists he blindly ignores the facts. Instead, he belittles the person who dares to ask questions and looks at old answers in different ways. Sadly, historically, if it weren’t for such people science would not advance. It is dogmatism identical to how the church promoted and protected the Ptolemaic system for 2000 years.

That is my memory of Carl Sagan’s role in the controversy. It was Sagan that first led me to understand that science itself is a dirty, dirty business. The mythology taught to the young that scientists are “pure truth seekers” with the good of mankind at heart is a disastrous view as it leads people to uncritically believe the hogwash that is most of modern science. (man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest ~ Paul Simon)
I was reading a book by Niles Eldridge I believe (although it could have been Gould) in which he admitted being part of a group of doctoral students sent by his professors to heckle and torment a visiting speaker at his university. The fellow had developed a theory that the continents move! (continental drift). Of course the fellow was correct and later scientists stole his idea, renamed it, and acted as if science had never treated this fellow is such shabby fashion. This added to my understanding that scientists are little better than used car salesman. (please, no offense intended to used car salesmen)
I should also mention that Sagan’s wife Lynn Margulis experienced great attacks by being a woman offering a new idea on evolution. Her ideas were brilliant and yet this was the response … “Throughout her career, Margulis’ work could arouse intense objection (one grant application elicited the response, “Your research is crap, do not bother to apply again”[4]), …”(Wikipedia) I have her “Symbiotic Planet” beside me as I write this and recommend it to all.
The amazing thing that these controversies (and so many others) taught me was that many people will attack and argue with all their being over things they know little about. A professor attacking a book he had never read is a prime example and all to frequent. Since the history of man’s knowledge of the world teaches us that mankind has almost always been wrong, it would make sense to always be questioning the “conventional wisdom” and exploring new ideas that go against the old “settled science”.
I have gone on to long already, but would add that it is amazing that Dr. Ball had the guts to write this essay. Most “educated” men in the world today believe the Carl Sagan hogwash hurdled against a fine example of an interdisciplinary researcher. You know most people are supposed to believe that even reading Velikovsky is evil. Look at the lie Gavin the Fool hurled at WUWT over a mention of the man.
My friends, I am a heretic. I believe that even the “way out there” ideas help science move forward and personal attacks are the ammunition of the ignorant. Heck, I even believe that CO2, on net, cools the planet and does not warm it. With that said, I will go further and tell you that everyone should read Velikovsky to see how brilliant researchers ask pertinent questions in spite of the “conventional wisdom”.

Windchaser
Reply to  markstoval
March 6, 2016 11:16 am

I was reading a book by Niles Eldridge I believe (although it could have been Gould) in which he admitted being part of a group of doctoral students sent by his professors to heckle and torment a visiting speaker at his university. The fellow had developed a theory that the continents move! (continental drift). Of course the fellow was correct and later scientists stole his idea, renamed it, and acted as if science had never treated this fellow is such shabby fashion.

Do you know that Wegener originally thought that the continents plowed through the sea floor, like ships through water?
That is a stupid idea, and rightly deserved to be ridiculed.
You’ve got to show your work in science. If you reach the right conclusions, but you don’t have evidence for your beliefs or you’re using a silly mechanism to justify them, then yes, people are going to make fun of you, and rightfully so. Evidence matters.

Reply to  Windchaser
March 6, 2016 2:06 pm

Oddly, Niles Eldridge expressed shame at what he had done that day. I suppose that either he or you are mistaken over whether the man should have been prevented from giving his talk that day or ridiculed. Even more oddly, there are some who believe that ad hominems are not a proper part of science.
As a long time fan of Eldridge, I think I’ll go with him this time.

rtj1211
March 6, 2016 3:59 am

Perhaps this blog would remove from itself the self-righteous claim that it does not use ad hominems to target competitors?
Whether or not you agree with none-, some- or all of Piers Corbyn’s theories/ideas/predictions about extreme weather events, you cannot contend that he does not claim a central role for electromagnetism in weather and climate.
That is a view expressed in this article also.
It is therefore rather remarkable that this website has seen fit, more than once, to trash the personality of Piers Corbyn, for reasons more to do with politics and the role of the USA in the world than anything to do with science.
WUWT has many good things to it.
What it does not have is a track record of even-handed examination of the claims of those it feels threatened by…….
Oh but it had…….

Reply to  rtj1211
March 6, 2016 9:50 am

But you have to agree, it is the best we’ve got!!

basicstats
March 6, 2016 4:02 am

“…like so many such reactions they are by people who read or know little about the events and issues involved. I also suspect because it occurs all the time, that definitive opinions are based on a minor matter unrelated to the whole story”
A case of this kind of elite ‘oversocialization’ may be Terence Tao, a truly brilliant mathematician and probably the world’s authority on the mathematical intricacies of Navier-Stokes. By implication therefore on the mathematics of the hydrostatic equations fundamental to GCM’s. Apparently he used to link to the odd scaremongering climate site, possibly on political grounds. This was despite the fact that his work in recent years has been pointing towards some limited element of ‘blow up’ in these equations. As comments on a recent blog post of his explain in more detail (and better than I could), these would make the fundamental equations of GCM’s profoundly ‘non-physical’. A rather serious problem for those who say it is “all just physics”.

Greg
Reply to  basicstats
March 6, 2016 4:17 am

That is a untrue and those that claim so clearly have been mislead or are being misleading themselves.
There are some processes that are modelled in a rigorous fashion but the key processes of evaporation , condensation , cloud formation and precipitation are very poorly understood and cannnot be modelled from basic physical laws. They are modelled on the basis of guestimated “parameters”.
This means that the results of model runs can never be more than the result of guestimated “parameters”.

Jock Elliott
March 6, 2016 4:11 am

Another example of scientific elitism, and one that is less controversial: Alfred Wegener was pilloried for decades by the scientific establishment for having the temerity to suggest that the continents drift. According to wikipedia, he got the rate of drift too high, but the concept is now regarded as gospel.
Science is shameful when it bans people from “the club” simply because it doesn’t like their ideas instead of defeating their ideas with solid reasoning and facts.
There are two quotes I rather like:
Daniel Patrick Moynihan — ‘You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.’
It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong. Richard P. Feynman

Herman Aven
March 6, 2016 4:33 am

It’s i my opinion a big mistake to bring up Velikovsky in this context. But if you do, note that the good man represent the *problem*, which is bias and faith influencing scientific research. The man was after all a dedicated Zionist with many strong motives to believe in the biblical scriptures to be true in some physical and historical sense. This was essential to various Zionist territorial and historical claims at the time. It’s hard to imagine his bias didn’t play a role when Velikovsky often opted to elevate the truth of his brand of comparative mythology over established celestial mechanics. Bringing him up in the context of climate skepticism as an inspiring example of some kind amounts to shooting in ones own foot. No matter the impressive details of his maverick research.

emsnews
March 6, 2016 4:45 am

All new ideas must be put to the test and yes, many are mocked before testing proves some theory is correct.

emsnews
March 6, 2016 4:47 am

The history of astronomy is full of misunderstanding things. For example, the canals of Mars. They never existed, they were drawn by ernest astronomers who were looking at the planet via rather poor optics compared to today when we have sent probes there and can see very clearly what is there. To this day, we have very little information about the center of our own galaxy due to the clouds of dark matter that veils it from view. Many theories abound about what lurks there.

Pat Paulsen
March 6, 2016 5:31 am

Elistism 101 – first, label your enemy. Then when they spend all their time defending themselves and getting negative spotlights from the media – sneak in your stuff. (Nobody will notice – they were told not to, IMO)

GregK
March 6, 2016 5:34 am

“Who and how do you determine that someone or their work is pseudo-science?
If from someone’s work you can develop a test that can disprove his/her proposition then we are getting close to science. If a hypothesis is not testable, or at least potentially testable, it is not scientific.
That applies as much to Velikovsky as it did to Sagan, Gould or to those heroes of the scientific community Newton and Boyle [both of whom held odd views on a range of subjects].

Steve Thatcher
March 6, 2016 5:43 am

It’s nearly 50 years since I read Velikovsky. I keep an open mind and the one thing that truly bothered me was the “sudden appearance”, historically speaking of Venus on clay tablets (I think they were Sumerian – I may be wrong, it was a long while ago). The people who created the tablets had shown a tremendous knowledge of astronomy up to that point and it is unlikely that they had “forgotten” to include the brightest object in the night sky, as was suggested. All of the now known “not normal” properties of Venus lend some support (not evidence) that something strange is at the heart of the matter.
If only a handful of his many thoughts/beliefs/predictions have some merit, then it has stimulated someone to dig deeper and create progress. This is what science should be about. Furthering the work and thoughts of others e.g. Priestley’s input to Lavoisier on the discovery of Oxygen.
I prefer the “open mind” view to the “can’t possibly” point of view when there is no evidence available at the given point in time.
SteveT

graphicconception
March 6, 2016 6:00 am

I think too many have a “rose-tinted” view of science and scientists. They are keen to push the “scientific method” and the “self-correcting” of science but that ignores all the personalities involved. The claim is that everything is objective and that is clearly not the case if you look at some history.
Einstein just knew what the right answer was, so the rather dubious results of Eddington’s famous experiment was not really a concern. The same Eddington gave Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar lots of abuse over his black hole theory. Mendel fudged the data for his heredity experiments. He also just “knew” what the right answer had to be. Wegener with his continental drift was a pariah for about 30 years. Millikan won the Nobel Prize and he did not even get the right answer for the charge on the electron. Einstein is given credit for E=mc² but Poincare published it first. Darwin is always given credit for evolution but Wallace’s name appeared on the initial paper as well. Some believe the real work was actually done by Wallace but it was Darwin who had the connections.
There is a long list of events in science that do not follow the “objectivity” route but actually follow the “establishment” route. The scientists with the connections and flair for self-publicity tend to be the ones who hold sway during their lifetimes
As Max Planck said:
“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

Reply to  graphicconception
March 6, 2016 7:42 am

It is well established that Mendel did not fudge his data to fit any preconception. His result was completely unexpected.
http://www.genetics.org/content/175/3/975
Darwin gets priority for the simple reason that his work was familiar to fellow scientists and he had produced a lengthy description of his idea 14 years before Wallace wrote with his near identical idea. There was no joint paper. Darwin’s summary and Wallace’s letter were read separately at a meeting of the Linnaean Society in 1858. There really isn’t any dispute who should have priority. Even Wallace agreed.
Some things claimed as dodgy science are nothing of the kind.

Gloateus Maximus
Reply to  graphicconception
March 6, 2016 9:14 am

No one who has ever studied the history of evolutionary theory imagines that the actual work was done by Wallace. Darwin’s notebooks date from 1837, over 20 years before Wallace sent Darwin a letter. Darwin told various colleagues about his theory. Before 1844, he was afraid to publish it without overwhelming evidence. After that time, Chambers’ anonymous “Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation” showed Darwin that Church and public were ready to accept his ideas (although the popular book lacked a process for the “development” or “transmutation” of new species), but he still wanted to marshal all his vast and mounting evidence in a single book, so continued to delay.

rabbit
March 6, 2016 7:39 am

Velikovskys “Worlds In Collision” contained many assertions that were just plain loony, and easily refuted by basic science.
As just one example, Velikovsky had planets zooming around the solar system like giant pin balls, with near misses of earth. The problem is this: just as we can accurately predict the position of the planets into the future, so too can we backtrack the position of the planets into the past.
And when we backtrack the position of the planets to thousands of years ago, they were where they are now, in their orbits. The giant game of celestial pinball didn’t happen.

Jon
Reply to  rabbit
March 6, 2016 9:34 am

Just out of interest, how exactly do we know where the planets were in their orbits 1000s of years ago? If there we no mention of Venus in historical writings, as V claims, how do we know where it was?

rabbit
Reply to  Jon
March 6, 2016 9:44 am

We know where they were using (1) their current positions, (2) their current velocities, and (3) the laws of motion. The laws of motions work just as well going back in time as going forward in time.

March 6, 2016 7:47 am

Quoting Einstein’s actual words from his letter to Velikovsky:

Your arguments in this regard are so weak as opposed to the mechanical-astronomical ones, that no expert will be able to take them seriously.

Non-experts of course lap this stuff up.
Einstein also writes to Velikovsky that finding a respectable publisher to take this “fiasco” on might be difficult. Einstein understood that respectable publishers don’t publish fantasy as science. Others have difficulty with that concept.

Ricdre
March 6, 2016 8:09 am

“For the record I’ve never supported Velikovsky’s ideas in the book When Worlds Collide,…”
“When Worlds Collide” was an excellent SciFi written by Philip Wylie and Wdwin Balmer in 1932. Did you mean “Worlds In Collision”?
[Yes, fixed, thanks – Anthony]

March 6, 2016 9:02 am

The history of science is replete with examples of how the greatest hindrance to scientific advance is scientific elitism
The history of science is replete with examples of how the greatest hindrance to scientific advance is human stupidity.
If you are going to have open heart surgery, you want a surgeon who is the best there is, top of his profession, not some ‘free-thinker’ who does not know what he is doing.

Gloateus Maximus
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 9:20 am

You mean freethinkers like noble, non-practicing lawyer Lavoisier, aristocrat of leisure Cavendish, bookbinder Faraday or patent clerk Einstein?

Wm Sears
Reply to  Gloateus Maximus
March 6, 2016 1:38 pm

Lavoisier and Cavendish studied Chemistry at University. Faraday was trained by Humphry Davy a famous chemist at the Royal Institution lab and Einstein had a PhD in physics. You need better examples.

richardscourtney
Reply to  Gloateus Maximus
March 7, 2016 1:24 am

Wm Sears:
The examples provided by Gloateus Maximus are excellent but you say

Lavoisier and Cavendish studied Chemistry at University. Faraday was trained by Humphry Davy a famous chemist at the Royal Institution lab and Einstein had a PhD in physics. You need better examples.

OK, if you think merely having had an education refutes those excellent examples then consider my favourite example; viz. Orville and Wilbur Wright.
Those two brothers were bicycle salesmen who lacked any significant scientific education. But they devised, built and used a ‘wind tunnel’ to conduct scientific experiments that enabled them to determine the principles for a system of aerodynamic control by manipulating the surfaces of a flying machine (US patent, 821,393). With that knowledge they built and demonstrated the first powered aircraft which incorporated wings and propellers they had developed to be the most efficient then devised.
The Wright brothers published their seminal work on aeronautics which explained their method called “three-axis control” that was adopted as – and still is – the standard method for the steering while maintaining equilibrium of fixed-wing aircraft of all kinds. But ‘scientific elitism’ prevented publication of that paper in any scientific or engineering journal because all ‘experts’ had the belief that obtaining more powerful engines and not viable control systems would enable powered flight. Therefore, the Wright brothers published their seminal work on aeronautics in a magazine about bee-keeping.
Richard

Ricdre
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 9:53 am

I agree, and one of the forms of human stupidity is scientific elitism. The first open heart surgeons were most likely told by the elite in the medical profession that open heart surgery couldn’t be done and that they would just kill the patient.

K. Kilty
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 9:59 am

The quotation you cite is overwrought, no doubt, but your response is quite extreme. There are many examples of science dogma thwarting some imaginative thinkers whose work would eventually improve people’s lives–the controversy over whether or not a bacterium causes peptic ulcers, for instance. By the way, whom is the best “open heart surgeon” has an answer that is not free of dogmatism, PR, and other influences is it?

Reply to  K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 10:27 am

some imaginative thinkers whose work would eventually improve people’s lives
Who were, in fact, competent scientists themselves.
Using Veliskovsky as a shining example of scientific progress thwarted by well-known physics is a disgrace.

Gary Hladik
Reply to  K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 2:47 pm

“Though many of the products of genius seem crackpot at first, very few of the creations that seem crackpot turn out, after all, to be products of genius.” — Isaac Asimov
http://thethunderchild.com/Sourcebooks/Asimov/AisForAsimov/FactandFancy.html

ferdberple
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 1:26 pm

If you are going to have open heart surgery
==================
the people doing open heart surgery by and large didn’t invent it. quite likely the skills sets are different.
For example, Hamilton Naki was reportedly a highly skilled transplant surgeon and teacher, despite being hired as a gardener.
Barnard: “A liver transplant is much more difficult than a heart transplant… [doctors who work with Naki] tell me that Hamilton can do all the various aspects of liver transplantation, which I can’t do. So technically, he is a better surgeon than I am.”

JohnKnight
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 4:24 pm

Isvalgaurd,
“The history of science is replete with examples of how the greatest hindrance to scientific advance is human stupidity. If you are going to have open heart surgery, you want a surgeon who is the best there is, top of his profession, not some ‘free-thinker’ who does not know what he is doing.”
You do know there is a difference between stupidity and ignorance, don’t you? ; )

Reply to  JohnKnight
March 6, 2016 7:12 pm

You do know there is a difference between stupidity and ignorance, don’t you
Which of the two do you profess to be afflicted with?
You do know that there is something like willful ignorance, don’t you?
You see a lot of that around here.

JohnKnight
Reply to  JohnKnight
March 7, 2016 2:03 pm

Isvalgaurd,
You wrote;
“The history of science is replete with examples of how the greatest hindrance to scientific advance is human stupidity.”
But you gave no examples . . rather you switched horses, so to speak, to something that has nothing in particular to do stupidity nor “scientific advance” . .
One wonders if you’ve actually given these matters any serious consideration at all . . Or, perhaps believe you don’t need to because you’re not stupid . . ?

RD
Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 7, 2016 1:54 am

H. pylori and ulcers would have been good here.

K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 9:14 am

I made a reply to N. Stokes earlier which seems to have vanished in moderation, but I may as well make it again. Many people seem to interpret this post as being a defense of Velikovsky’s science. I read the point of Dr. Ball’s essay in another way. It is not wrong that scientists rejected Velikovsky’s views on basic scientific principles, but it is wrong that so many, perhaps most, did so not on the basis of their own thinking, but rather in agreement with important and influential persons. This is sock-puppetism, not science. Carl Sagan was not wrong to confront Velikovsky’s theories, but the more interesting question is why he had to invoke authority by titling his book “Scientists Confront Velikovsky” rather than something like “Reason Confronts Velikovsky, and taking direct responsibility for the task.
Perhaps a better example of this is the circa 1900 controversy over the age of the Earth that pitted Kelvin and Tait against Perry, Heaviside, and practically any geologist. Kelvin was dead wrong as we all know, but the modern version of this is a whitewash excuses Kelvin’s sloppy thinking through the excuse he was ignorant of radioactivity. Nonsense. Kelvin was dead wrong on basic principle. Heaviside showed that Kelvin’s thermal argument rested on very narrow interpretations of data, and that other, more reasonable assumptions would arrive at an Earth of nearly any age. Kelvin’s authority alone kept the more reasonable parties in this debate on the defensive for a long time.

Reply to  K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 10:19 am

Your reply is there

K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 9:15 am

Mod: I keep trying to reply to this thread, but one reply after another disappears. What’s up?

K. Kilty
Reply to  K. Kilty
March 6, 2016 9:51 am

Mod: I see you found reply number one. Thank you. Could I ask you to look for reply number two?

Ivor Ward
March 6, 2016 10:45 am

If there were no “free-thinkers” there would be no open heart surgery, no heart transplants, no stents, no valve replacements and lots of dead people.

Reply to  Ivor Ward
March 6, 2016 1:24 pm

These people were experts in their field. It takes experts and knowledge to push the boundary of the known and of the possible outwards. Dilettantes, no matter how ‘free-thinking’, just won’t cut it.

Reply to  lsvalgaard
March 6, 2016 3:14 pm

You are generous. EV was world class quack.

Chuck
March 6, 2016 12:35 pm

I don’t know much about Velikovsky, but I did read Worlds in Collision as a teenager and thought it fascinatingly nuts. What with rampaging planets, near collisions responsible for oil deposits, a young Venus hatched from Jupiter, and all in historical/mythological time, it reads like bad science fiction. I don’t think there is any reason to reevaluate my early opinion.

rabbit
Reply to  Chuck
March 6, 2016 2:08 pm

I agree. I am staggered that Tim Ball — or anyone — gives Velikovsky serious consideration.
I particularly liked how petroleum was supposed to have seeped into the cracks in the earth. As any petroleum geologist will tell you, conventional oil deposits as are found in the Middle East are under impermeable layers of rock, often many miles down. It’s just childish.

Reply to  Chuck
March 6, 2016 3:12 pm

Right on. But I can’t seem to add anything beyond that.

sysiphus /
Reply to  agfosterjr
March 7, 2016 5:20 pm

rabbit, and lsvalgaard. You are both clearly misunderstanding what is being said.

Wm Sears
March 6, 2016 2:15 pm

I believe that the excessive hero worship of Velikovsky is due to two effects. The first is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect as coined by Michael Crichton. See:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you
Someone with expertise in physics will see the defects in that area but will be impressed by the historical or biblical sections. The expert in history will see the defects in that area but will be impressed by the astronomy. Similarity for the biblical scholar. I have heard people make exactly these points. The second effect is that having been taken in by Velikovsky, people are very reluctant to admit they were conned and will double down so to speak. We see the same thing in the AGW fanaticism with the added political and monetary incentives. Unfortunately the ability to detect these flaws in others rarely brings personal wisdom.

March 6, 2016 3:01 pm

Velikovsky and Erich von Däniken are two peas in a pod, the main difference between the two being that the latter was a conscious con artist and the former was so hopelessly ignorant he was oblivious to his delusion. He probably has no parallel in quantity of BS published. His understanding of the Bible was that of a child’s, as was his understanding of literature in general, including Swift. He thought Swift’s invention of two moons of Mars in approval of Newton was evidence of pre-Galilean telescopic astronomy.
As mentioned above, his anti-Newtonian physics allowed him to postulate a Venus recently captured by the sun and reduced to a near circular orbit. Any who can give credit to such nonsense make the climate quacks look scientific. His only talent was for getting everything wrong. Sorry about all the credulous drivel here. –AGF

Peter
Reply to  agfosterjr
March 6, 2016 10:53 pm

Artiagfosterjr, Artificial satellites were put on orbits very recently and the orbits are nearly circular within hours of the rocket launch. How well do you know Newtonian physics to be certain that capturing Venus (whatever its origin) by Sun was impossible to occur, say, N thousand years ago? Tell me what is the minimal value of N that Newtonian physics allows for.

Reply to  Peter
March 7, 2016 7:38 am

Well, those satellites were put up there by humans who controlled the thrusters. As for Venus, you must postulate a series of near impossibilities: 1) capture, 2) rounding of the orbit, 3) tidal braking. It might be possible for the planets to bring a comet into an inner planet orbit but it would require a compounding of such unlikely events that it has probably never happened, let alone been observed. And the outer planets could bring a planetoid into an an outer orbit without seriously altering the orbits of the great planets until the planetoid was destroyed by collision. But there’s no way for the big planets to bring a planetoid into an inner planet orbit, and the only way the earth and Mars could do it would be by disrupting their own orbits. The situation would end in collision.
Not only does Venus have a nice round orbit (with little eccentricity), but it shares the ecliptic (and orbiting direction) along with the rest of the planets. It took hundreds of millions of years of aggregation to create a bunch of planets from a disk of orbiting debris, free from all but minor future collisions. The introduction of a new planet of nearly the earth’s size would have thrown the inner solar system back into chaos. And Quackakowsky claims this happened only a few thousand years ago. And Venus settled into a nice round orbit (impossible), in the same plane (and direction) as the rest of the planets (highly improbable), and became gravitationally locked on to the earth and sun (without explanation–tides couldn’t do that in a 100 million years).
These are nonsensical fairy tales that no astronomer or physicist could ever take seriously, but lucky for Velikovsky a sucker is born every second. And EV has pulled it off with equal incompetence in a dozen fields. –AGF

Reply to  Peter
March 7, 2016 8:25 am

Who knows, maybe my previous reply will show up at some future time. I’ll say it again in different words, just for practice.
EV’s hypothesis is sheer BS from any perspective you choose, and it’s dismaying to see the collective authority (=reputation) of WUWT contributors diluted by such posts. To list:
1) Critical biblical scholars don’t take the Hexateuch (a 19th century term that includes Joshua) at all literally. The Flood account is chock full of inconsistency and irrational nonsense, e.g., enough water came through the “windows of heaven” to float the ark on the top of the highest mountain. Then all the water disappeared. The rain cycle is not recognized until Ecc 1:7 –in Hellenistic times.
2) The orderly solar system is explained by the slow aggregation of the primordial debris disk; smaller pieces progressively bang into bigger ones until new craters become rare and critters safe–most of the time.
3) The introduction of an earth-sized planet would throw the system back into collision and chaos. Creation would have to start over.
4) Venus shares with the other planets a) an orbital plane, all going in the same direction of course; and b) nearly circular orbits. Venus shares with Mercury a gravitationally locked in rotation rate. This makes Venus a sister planet of long standing. It is no late comer.
5) EV understands none of this, the combination of circumstances, each nearly impossible or completely impossible, required for his fairy tale: capture, in the ecliptic, with minimal eccentricity, and tidal braking.
The sun and outer planets are capable of capturing comets and planetoids and bringing them into elliptical orbits until they collide. The inner planets could possibly bring a comet into an orbit within the asteroids, until it collided (never been seen of course). The earth and Mars could not bring an earth sized planet into a near solar orbit without disrupting their own orbits and soon colliding, let alone bring Venus into a round orbit, in the ecliptic, with locked in rotation. Any physicist knows, it just can’t happen. EV doesn’t, of course. –AGF

March 6, 2016 3:03 pm

Velikovsky and Erich von Däniken are two peas in a pod, the main difference between the two being that the latter was a conscious con artist and the former was so hopelessly ignorant he was oblivious to his delusion. He probably has no parallel in quantity of BS published. His understanding of the Bible was that of a child’s, as was his understanding of literature in general, including Swift. He thought Swift’s invention of two moons of Mars in approval of Newton was evidence of pre-Galilean telescopic astronomy.
As mentioned above, his anti-Newtonian physics allowed him to postulate a Venus recently captured by the sun and somehow lately reduced to a near circular orbit. Any who can give credit to such nonsense make the climate quacks look scientific. His only talent was for getting everything wrong. Sorry about all the credulous drivel here. –AGF

March 6, 2016 3:06 pm

test

Wm Sears
March 6, 2016 3:07 pm

Spam again?

March 6, 2016 3:09 pm

Can’t comment. Are we shut down?