Pacifica, California's Natural Coastal Erosion and the Lust for Climate Catastrophes

Guest essay by Jim Steele

Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University

For 25 years I’ve lived in the beautiful town of Pacifica, California situated about 15 miles south of San Francisco. It was a wonderful place to raise a family. Its great expanse of green space is a delight for an ecologist. My daily hikes vary from coastal bluffs to watch feeding Humpback Whales or migrating Gray Whales, to inland mountain trails with abundant deer, coyotes and bobcats. Oddly this past week I received emails from friends around the country asking if I was “all right”, thinking my little slice of heaven was falling into the sea. Not to disrespect their concern, I had to belly laugh. The news of a few houses, foolishly built on fragile land too near the sea bluffs’ edge, were indeed falling into the ocean and were now providing great photo-ops for news outlets around the world. See a video here. It is fascinating how such an isolated event covering 0.5% of the town of Pacifica would suggest to friends that the whole town was endangered.

But it was more bizarre that this dot on the map could be extrapolated into an icon of CO2 climate change. I could only laugh as ridiculous CO2 alarmists who metamorphosed a local disaster, brought about by ignorance of natural coastal changes, into a global warming “crystal ball”. NBC news reported the Pacifica event as “a brief window into what the future holds as sea levels rise from global warming, a sort of a crystal ball for climate change.” The SF Chronicle suggested “increased global warming and rising sea levels due to climate change would double the frequency of those severe weather events across the Pacific basin.” The result would be “more occurrences of devastating weather events and more frequent swings of opposite extremes from one year to the next, with profound socio-economic consequences.”

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Such apocryphal stories fueled a menagerie of bizarre blogging alarmists. I was recently interviewed by James Corbett, which incurred the wrath of a few internet snipers trying to denigrate my scientific background. Not knowing I also live in Pacifica, bd6951, a skeptic‑bashing poster, linked to a video of threatened apartments in Pacifica and commented, “What we are observing is run away climate change/planetary warming. This is just a guess but, the architecture of these apartment buildings suggest they are at least 20 years old. That means the people who built these units had determined the site was suitable for construction. They clearly were not thinking that an increasingly warming Pacific Ocean would cause their buildings to crash into the ocean 50 or more feet below. Oops. So I want to hear how the climate change denier crowd is going to explain this phenomenon.”

But like so many other alarmists, bd6951 blindly believes every unusual event must be due to rising CO2. Because the media rarely tries to educate the public about natural changes, paranoids like bd6951 perceive every weather event as supporting evidence for their doomsday beliefs, despite a mountain of evidence that it is all natural. Sadly when you try to educate them about documented natural change, paranoids feel you are “disarming them and exposing them to even greater dangers of rising CO2. But anyone familiar with Pacifica’s history understands this coastal erosion hotspot has nothing to do with global warming, and everything to do with the local geology and the natural El Nino oscillation.

So let’s put California’s eroding coastline into both a long term and recent framework. About 72% of California’s coastline consists of steep mountains slopes or raised marine terraces that are being relentlessly chipped away by Pacific Ocean waves. However the geology of the coast is complex due to varied depositional events, colliding plate tectonics and earthquake faults. At one extreme are erosion-resistant metamorphosed submarine basalts, greenstones, formed over 100 million years ago during the age of dinosaurs, and often forming headlands that defy the battering waves. Similarly the granites of the Monterrey Peninsula endure with very little erosion. On the other extreme are unconsolidated sandstones that were deposited during the past 12,000 years of the Holocene. Due to vastly different resistances to erosion, California’s presents a majestically steep and undulating coastline. The Pacifica locale has eroded more rapidly because the sea cliffs consist mostly of weakly or moderately cemented marine sediments from the more recent Pleistocene and Holocene. And because Pacifica has long been known as a hot spot of coastal erosion, it has been studied for over 100 years. For a more detailed geology read a 2007 USGS report Processes of coastal bluff erosion in weakly lithified sands, Pacifica, California, USA . As always, before we can blame catastrophic CO2 climate change, we must understand the local setting and the effects of natural change.

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Since the end of the Last Glacial Maximum sea levels have risen about 120 meters. During the past 18,000 years most of California’s coast retreated 10 to 20 kilometers eastward at rates of 50 to 150 centimeters per year. The San Francisco/Pacifica region was much more susceptible to erosion and retreated about 50 km. After the Holocene Optimum ended about 5,000 years ago and sea level rise slowed, and California’s current rate of coastal erosion decreased to about 10 to 30 cm/year. Undoubtedly rising sea levels have driven coastal erosion. But based on San Francisco Bay Area’s sea level change posted at the PSMSL, since the end of the Little Ice Age this region has undergone a steady rise in sea level of less about 2 mm/year and counter-intuitively, the rate of sea level rise has slowed the past few decades as seen in the graph. Sea level rise varies most between El Nino and La Nina events.

Assuming a 150-year rate of local coastal erosion of 30 cm/year, any structure built within 20 meters of the sea bluffs’ edge in 1950, was doomed to fall into the ocean by 2015. But homebuyers that were new to the region were typically naïve about the natural geology and climate. Fortunately when I was shopping for Pacifica homes in 1982, my background allowed me to recognize that developers had ignored all the signs of natural climate change. They unwisely built homes too near the cliffs’ edge to ensure a spectacular view, or they had built in the flood plains and filled tidal marshes. Awareness of the power of El Niño’s is critical. Sea cliffs crumble and flood plains flood during El Nino events. Indeed during the 1982 El Nino, Pacifica’s Linda Mar lowlands flooded as heavy precipitation filled the banks of San Pedro Creek and high tides resisted the creek’s flow to the ocean. Inspecting Linda Mar’s homes, we could still smell the dampness in every house located in those lowlands. Along the bluffs of Esplanade Drive we likewise saw a evidence of coastal retreat during the 1982 El Nino, but not enough to undermine homes and apartments. That did not happen until the El Nino of 1997/98. Wisely we bought our home further inland on a solid ridge. As seen in the picture below from a USGS report, homes in the Esplanade area still had backyards until the 1997/98 El Nino struck. Residents were well aware of the imminent threat as revealed by the boulders, or riprap, placed at the base of the crumbling cliffs to discourage erosion, but those remedies were no match for the ensuing El Nino storm surge.

Unfortunately scientific measurements of coastal erosion did not begin until the 1960s led by Scripps Institute of Oceanography. So early developers had to guess how far back to set their homes from the bluffs’ edge. Due to recent research we now know that those cliffs had “retreated episodically at an average rate of 0.5 to 0.6 meter (1.5 to 2 feet) per year over the past 146 years.” But lacking geologic backgrounds and unaware of natural weather cycles, developers’ ability to estimate a “safe distance” was hampered by the episodic nature of coastal erosion that could lull people into believing erosion was minimal.

Minimal erosion may happen for decades when La Ninas divert the storm tracks northward, during which time naïve homebuyers and builders are not alerted to inevitable future threats. Those mild periods are soon followed by rapid losses during El Nino events. Thus ill informed in 1949, developers constructed several homes at the top of a 20-meter sea cliff along Esplanade Drive in the city of Pacifica. During the heavy winter storms of the 1997/1998 El Niño, 10 meters of local coastline were rapidly eroded, eliminating the last vestiges of the backyards that had survived the 1982 El Nino (see pre-1997 photograph below). In 1997/98, seven homes were undermined and three others threatened. All ten homes were eventually condemned and demolished.

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Nonetheless early developers should have been more cautious and alerted by past catastrophes. Early entrepreneurs in California were eager to develop its vast potential. The Ocean Shore Railroad was built, hoping to link San Francisco to Santa Cruz and entice more immigration into the area, as well as to transport lumber and agricultural products. Where the terrain was too daunting to go up and over, they chiseled out ledges that circumscribed the coastal cliffs. Scheduled to open in 1907, the 1906 San Francisco earthquake disrupted those plans. Pacifica lies just south of the San Andreas Fault, and its movement dropped a length of 4000+ feet of right-of-way along Pacifica’s fragile sea cliffs into the sea along with all their railroad building equipment. The surviving railroad ledges can still be seen today.

If you spend enough time walking along Pacifica’s beaches, you would recognize an annual pattern of beach erosion. Heavy winter storms carry the smaller grains of sand offshore restructuring a sandy beach into a bed of rocky cobble. The gentler waves during the summer return the sands to the beach and bury the cobble. The currents will also carry some displaced sand down the coast, while those same currents also carry sands from further upstream. When not enough sand is delivered to replenish a beach, it undergoes rapid erosion. So in addition to natural changes, the damming of rivers that halt the seaward supply of sediments can starve a beach and promote erosion. Likewise when naturally eroding cliffs are armored at their base by boulders, the lack of local erosion can starve adjacent beaches of needed replenishing sediments. Because of that possible impact on neighbors, the California Coastal Commission now requires a permitting process before any seawall can be built. Finally jetties that are built to protect harbors often block the transport sand along the coast, starving beaches down stream from the jetty and causing amplified erosion. In many locations, governments dredge regions of sediment build-up, and dump those sediments where beaches are now starving, such as being done by San Francisco just north of Pacifica.

This region’s coastal erosion is episodic for well-understood reasons. When a cliff face collapses it leaves a pile of rubble at the cliff’s base, sometimes called the “toe”, which raises the beach and acts to naturally buffer the cliff face from further erosion. After several years, waves and currents carry the buffering toe away, and eventually exposes the cliff to another “bite” from the ocean.

Furthermore the Pacific Decadal Oscillation is expressed as a 20 to 30 year negative phase with more frequent La Nina’s alternating with a positive phase with more frequent El Nino’s. The relatively stationary high-pressure systems prominent during La Nina’s, forces storm tracks to the north of California. Fewer storms mean less coastal erosion, but also result in more California droughts. The current return of El Nino now allows storm tracks to attack the California coast. Snow is currently above average in the Sierra Nevada and reservoirs are filling, but simultaneously coastlines are more heavily eroded.

In addition, the effect of higher rates of precipitation associated with El Nino also cause greater slippage between geologic layers that differ in their ability to handle subsurface water flows. Heavier precipitation caused episodic collapses of coastal Highway 1 at Devil’s Side at the south end of Pacifica. A tunnel was just built to re-route the highway away from that geologically unstable area.

For millennia El Nino cycles have caused these natural extreme swings that alternate between droughts and floods and episodic coastal erosion. Changing your carbon footprint will never stop the process. But knowledge of these natural processes will keep people out of harms way. One of the greatest sins of the politics of the climate wars is that people are not being educated about natural climate change. They are not being taught how to be wary of natural danger zones. Instead every flood and every drought, every heat wave or snowstorm is now being hyped as a function of global warming. After every catastrophic natural weather event, yellow journalists like the Washington Post’s Chris Mooney or APs Seth Bornstein, seek out CO2 alarmist scientists like Kevin Trenberth or Michael Mann, to make totally unsubstantiated pronouncements that the event was 50% or so due to global warming. After centuries of scientific progress, Trenberth and his ilk have devolved climate science to the pre-Copernican days so that humans are once again at the center of the universe, and our carbon sins are responsible for every problem caused by an ever-changing natural world.

You can recognize those misleading journalists and scientists who are either totally ignorant of natural climate change, or who are politically wedded to a belief in catastrophic CO2 warming, when they falsely argue, as NBC news did, that “frequent swings of opposite extremes” are due to global warming. El Nino’s naturally bring these extremes every 3 to 7 years, as well as the 20 to 30 years swings of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. These swings have occurred for centuries and millennia! The same storms that bring much needed rains will also batter the coast and increase episodic erosion. But by ignoring natural change, climate fear mongers delude the public into believing La Nina-caused droughts of the past few years were due to CO2 warming. And now as El Nino returns the rains to California, those same climate fear mongers want us to believe CO2 warming is causing an abrupt swing to heavy rains and coastal erosion. One needs only look at the historical records to find Pacifica’s coastal erosion was much greater around the 1900’s, and that El Ninos have caused natural extreme swings for millennia.

Honest science, useful science, must educate people about our natural hazards and natural climate oscillations; so that people do not build too close to fragile cliff edges or build in the middle of a flood plain. It is not just the coast of California that is eroding. The politicization of climate change is eroding the very integrity of environmental sciences. Reducing your carbon footprint will never save foolishly placed buildings in Pacifica or stop the extreme swings in weather induced by El Nino’s and La Nina’s. It was the end of the Ice Age that initiated dramatic coastal erosion and only a return to those frozen years will stop it. Pacifica’ eroding bluffs are simply evidence that most of California has still not reached an equilibrium with the changes that began 18,000 years ago. Pacifica is truly an icon of natural climate change.

But the ranks of climate alarmists are filled with legions of scientific ignoranti who blindly see such coastal erosion as another “proof” of impending CO2-caused climate hell. This group lusts for climate catastrophes to prove they are not blindly paranoid. Other self-loathing CO2 alarmists simply lust for climate catastrophes that will deal humans their final “come-uppance.” So they too lust for climate catastrophes. Only a solid of understanding of natural climate change can prevent this climate insanity and pave the way to truly scientifically based adaptive measures.

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Jim Steele is author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism

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ossqss
January 30, 2016 11:22 am

Great read Jim! Thanks for the thorough education on the subject.
I would prefer the cliff erosion instead of the sink holes we have to deal with here in Florida……..

January 30, 2016 11:29 am

I grew up 2 blocks from the western shore of Lake Michigan on Vine Avenue in the Chicago “North Shore” suburb Highland Park built on clay moraine bluffs also about 30 meters above the lake . ( The Moraine Hotel where Queen for a Day occasionally sent their winners was just a few blocks north . )
Many of the phenomena Jim describes are familiar , tho perhaps in miniature , from my childhood . The erosion of the cliffs and the littoral drift of sand and the capture by groins and walls was obvious to us as kids exploring the shoreline , much of it private . On Google Earth you can clearly see the scalloped shore showing the southward shifting sand .
I remember there was a “cave” someone had dug ~ 2 m into the soft cliff which had disappeared by my teen years . The municipal beach came and went with the vicissitudes of the year’s weather .
It’s criminal malfeasance when anybody in an official capacity denies this beyond proven reality .

Barbara
Reply to  Bob Armstrong
January 30, 2016 6:05 pm

I remember watching TV coverage, a few years back, of waves hitting Gold Coast, Chicago, sea walls and splashing water up to 7 stories on lake front apartment houses/condos.

January 30, 2016 12:05 pm

Thank you Sir for yet another clear and concise article. Just excellent, and so enjoyable compared to the breathless calamity hawked by the CAGW cult.

Mike Rainey
January 30, 2016 12:18 pm

I lived in Pacifica for five years in the mid sixties. Landslides were a common occurrence, and Highway 1 was shut down quite often around Devil’s Slide. This was when Half Moon Bay was still known mostly for its brussels sprouts.

Paul McLellan
January 30, 2016 12:19 pm

Not exactly on-topic, but if you get to Pacifica, it has the most beautiful Taco Bell in the world, on the beach-side of the highway just over the waves.

Curious George
January 30, 2016 12:42 pm

As always (lately),
– good weather is just weather
– bad weather is CLIMATE.

dp
January 30, 2016 12:43 pm

The aerial photo shows a coastline that is eroding at about the same rate as that section of coast is being carried out to sea by the western tectonic plate sliding along side the San Andreas fault line. And this has been going for a very long time. Just how much closer to Japan have these structures moved in the last 100 years?

Chris Hanley
January 30, 2016 1:04 pm

“… any structure built within 20 meters of the sea bluffs’ edge in 1950, was doomed to fall into the ocean by 2015 …”.
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Quite so.
Anyone who builds their ocean view house near an exposed earth cliff-face is asking for trouble.
On the other hand In 1948 Wright designed the Walker house for a site right on the ocean at Carmel.
This photo is from a frame of the movie A Summer Place 57 years ago in 1959:comment image
This is a recent photo (tides accepted):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-69Euo1KHfk4/T_h0q619Y6I/AAAAAAAACAY/fzXfNuv7804/s1600/CIMG4547.JPG
Wright designed the terrace facing the ocean imitating the prow of a ship, I’m not sure that’s going to help when the seas suddenly rise 20 feet in 84 years by 2100 (Brian Kahn Scientific American July 9, 2015).

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 30, 2016 1:29 pm
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 30, 2016 4:48 pm

Note the rock FRW built on. Robust. Unlike Pacifica.
Btw, his original Talleisin design studio in Wisconsin is ~5 miles from my dairy farm. Built on a limeatone bluff carved by the melting of the last glacier (which not cover the Uplands, but which definitely carved the lower Wisconsin River valley. We drive by it on the way to and from, since county C is a backcountry shortcut to a short stretch of 123 and then county NN up Penn Hollow. County C west from 23 just south of Wisconsin River, just south of Spring Green. The Talleisin visitor center was originally the only FLR designed restaurant. We used to eat there. Not enough tourist trade from Madison to survive, and farmers don’t spend like tourists. Still has a ‘lunch bar’. Roof beam is part of a decommissioned WW2 destroyer keel. Just east of 23 bridge, north of C by 100 meters, on south side of Wisconsin River. Google Earth can take you there. Better to visit one of God’s countries in person. Summer rather than winter is strongly suggested unless you are trailing snowmobiles.
[FRW? Rather: FLW – Frank Lloyd Wright, correct? .mod]
[ Or perhaps Fr.W for Frank Wright… -ModE ]

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 30, 2016 9:28 pm

O.T. — Frank Lloyd Wright was a genuine genius, one of those larger-than-life truly American characters from the heroic period that is sadly over.

Editor
January 30, 2016 1:09 pm

The area south or the apartments show a lot erosion on Google Maps/Earth, e.g a “concrete creek delta” or whatever you call such things, is displaced south. Start at https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6444044,-122.4935292,169m/data=!3m1!1e3 and work north to the apartments.
Jim – can you date Google’s images? (Google Earth doesn’t run on my old Linux box.)

Reply to  Ric Werme
January 30, 2016 2:08 pm

Rick, I would have to study old photographs to date the image precisely but my browser says imagery is USGS 2016. You can see the heavy riprap all along the coast. Between the RV park and Manor Drive just south of the current Esplanade erosion there is heavy rip rap and then there is intermittent absence which I suspect was washed way. I don’t think the rocks “migrated south”. The were placed all along the area and if missing, were likely dragged seaward. The RV park lost a few pads during either the 1982 and/or 1997 El Nino so that area was armored. You can scroll southward from the RV park and sea the shore has been armored with riprap all the way down to the Sharp Park Gold Course. The course was created by creating dike that turned Laguna Salada, previously a natural saltwater lagoon, into a freshwater marsh and golf course. Hight tide often reaches the top of that dike.

Gamecock
Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 4:40 pm

Ahh, Sharp Park. I played there in 1997, as well as down at Half Moon Bay. Fabulous area.

Editor
Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 7:33 pm

I fired up my Windows system today in honor of tax season. I have Google Earth on that, so I took a look and found the most recent imagery is from 3/28/2015. I get the sense that people have concluded maintaining riprap and some other defenses is a waste of time and money.
On Google Earth – while maps.google.com uses the same imagery, Google Earth is a separate application that lets you mark up images, plan “flyovers”, look at old imagery which will remind you how much better aerial photography is today than 20 years ago, and in general make you spend far more time poking around than you do on the website.
From your reference to browser below, I assume your at Google’s map web site instead of running Google Earth.
You can download a Mac copy at http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html

nc
January 30, 2016 1:25 pm

Stayed at San Francisco RV Resort at Pacifica in October and interesting to see how its loosing real-estate.
Former RV park sites shortened at the edge and curbs hanging out over the cliff. Want to live on the shoreline, lots to be said for having a home on wheels.
[True. Loosening real estate at the top of a cliff often leads to lost real estate found at the bottom of the cliff. .mod]

January 30, 2016 1:34 pm

I was involved in the Michigan legislative process in FY86 when $6 million was appropriated for shoreline protection to address the record high water levels. A co-worker who had worked in the Great Lakes Shoreline Protection Program since the 1950s explained the cyclical nature of Great Lakes water levels where records have been kept over 100 years.
For the last several years near record low lake levels were being blamed on AGW. They have now recovered and are close to long term averages.
If I have to choose between hysterical uninformed press coverage and experience, I go for experience.

Paul Carter
January 30, 2016 1:58 pm

Google Earth’s ‘Show historical imagery’ button displays some interesting images of the Esplanade Ave coastal erosion and attempts to mitigate it. The earliest image is from 1993 then 2000 and every year from 2002 onwards. You can see from the images that it wasn’t until 2009 that any serious attempt was made to mitigate the erosion below the condemned buildings.

Reply to  Paul Carter
January 30, 2016 2:12 pm

Paul, Where do you see ‘Show historical imagery’ button? I don’t see that on my browser. That is a great tool I want to use.

Paul Carter
Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 2:22 pm

The ‘Show historical imagery’ is on my Windows version of Google Earth but it isn’t available on my ipad version. On the Windows version, select menu item view->toolbar (or press Ctrl+Alt+T), then it appears as a clock-like icon towards the top left of the window.

Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 2:52 pm

Thanks, that explains why I do not see it. I am on a Mac, but it suggests the button is available someplace. I’ll click around and see what I can uncover.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 6:13 pm

That is what I used in my comment below these.

January 30, 2016 2:02 pm

Thanks, Dr. Steele. This is a very good article for learning some geology.
“One of the greatest sins of the politics of the climate wars is that people are not being educated about natural climate change.” You are correct, young people are being blinded in their minds by this cult of “Climate Change”, as if it could do anything but change, as it has been doing since the Earth formed. Static climate is a myth that is being exploited for money and power.

January 30, 2016 2:19 pm

Great article. Despite the tragedy that these building owners endure, I did find it amusing, bringing back memories of living in the Bay Area beginning in 1980. Beginning in 1981/82, stories of Pacifica real estate collapsing seemed almost an annual winter-season occurrence. Now, down in Seal Beach, I’m looking at old photos where levees and sea walls were built over a century ago to retard coastal erosion, long before the magic 1950’s when C02 became the villain.

January 30, 2016 2:34 pm

Dr. Steele
Apologies for the kerfuffle and fuss caused by a brief comment I made at the top of the comments column. As someone who owes a property at a cliff top, fortunately of a far tamer Mediterranean, your excellent article (I just finished reading) is well appreciated.

Reply to  vukcevic
January 30, 2016 2:50 pm

No problem. I fully expect clashes between posters. It does not prevent others from posting about the essay.

Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 2:54 pm

Jim Steele,

But it was more bizarre that this dot on the map could be extrapolated into an icon of CO2 climate change.

Though fuzzy the boundary between anecdotal an empirical may be, sure, one data point would clearly be anecdotal. OTOH, one thing empirical is NOT is “everything”.

I could only laugh as ridiculous CO2 alarmists who metamorphosed a local disaster, brought about by ignorance of natural coastal changes, into a global warming “crystal ball”.

One wonders how your professed knowledge of natural coastal changes can be extrapolated into an icon for others’ ignorance of same. But consistency is the hobgoblin of a good polemic.

NBC news reported the Pacifica event as “a brief window into what the future holds as sea levels rise from global warming, a sort of a crystal ball for climate change.” The SF Chronicle suggested “increased global warming and rising sea levels due to climate change would double the frequency of those severe weather events across the Pacific basin.” The result would be “more occurrences of devastating weather events and more frequent swings of opposite extremes from one year to the next, with profound socio-economic consequences.”

Both statements want more substantiation, but I don’t see how that makes them “ridiculous” on their face. Let’s explore some of context provided by the things you didn’t quote directly. NBC article first:
Starting this month, The Nature Conservancy is asking tech junkies to capture the flooding and coastal erosion that come with El Nino, a weather pattern that’s bringing California its wettest winter in years — and all in the name of science.
El Nino is a natural phenomenon, is it not? Very next paragraph:
The idea is that crowd-sourced, geotagged images of storm surges and flooded beaches will give scientists a brief window into what the future holds as sea levels rise from global warming, a sort of a crystal ball for climate change.
I must say, I can’t think of a much better way to understand coastal erosion due to extreme weather phenomena than gathering geotagged evidence of it when and where it is occurring. Continuing on to the next paragraph:
Images from the latest drones, which can produce high-resolution 3D maps, will be particularly useful and will help scientists determine if predictive models about coastal flooding are accurate, said Matt Merrifield, the organization’s chief technology officer.
“We use these projected models and they don’t quite look right, but we’re lacking any empirical evidence,” he said. “This is essentially a way of ‘ground truthing’ those models.”

Oh look, observational data being used to validate models because researchers themselves question their validity. Completely unheard of.
Experts on climate change agreed that El Nino-fueled storms offer a sneak peak of the future and said the project was a novel way to raise public awareness. Because of its crowd-sourced nature, however, they cautioned the experiment might not yield all the results organizers hoped for, although any additional information is useful.
“It’s not the answer, but it’s a part of the answer,” said Lesley Ewing, senior coastal engineer with the California Coastal Commission. “It’s a piece of the puzzle.”

Gee, apparently the researchers behind this effort are
a) not wholly ignorant of natural coastal erosion, but would like to know more
b) saying quality of the results might suffer because of the crowd-sourced nature of the data
c) not claiming that this one experiment contains all the answers they are asking about the future.
Compare your statement: But it was more bizarre that this dot on the map could be extrapolated into an icon of CO2 climate change. I could only laugh as ridiculous CO2 alarmists who metamorphosed a local disaster, brought about by ignorance of natural coastal changes, into a global warming “crystal ball”.
Funny what people find ridiculous when they only consider a tiny piece of the picture, innit?
The Chron article is mostly the same, though there is at least one potential cringe-worthy statement in the second paragraph:
Only five years ago, an unusual weather pattern during an El Niño winter brought extreme wave heights and unprecedented erosion that tore away protective revetments along more than 3 miles of San Francisco’s Ocean Beach and damaged the Great Highway.
The potential problem there being “unprecedented”. Let’s rewind to the lede:
Severe weather events across the entire Pacific basin have been increasing for more than 30 years and are expected to double in frequency in coming years, the scientists said in a report published in the journal Nature Geoscience.
Ok, evidence of change over three decades across a wide region. Not exactly anecdotal. Not necessarily definitive either. Further down:
The coastal scientists who compiled the new report surveyed 48 beaches bordering the Pacific and analyzed detailed climate events around the Pacific stretching from 1979 to 2012 to reach their forecasts.
Clearly we’re talking about more than just Pacifica, CA here. Article finishes with:
They also considered forecasts of extreme La Niña and El Niño events published recently by a separate group of international climate and coastal scientists led by Wenju Cai, a climate modeler at Australia’s Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, Barnard said.
The Cai group predicted that increased global warming and rising sea levels due to climate change would double the frequency of those severe weather events across the Pacific basin.
The result, the group said in a report published this year in the journal Nature Climate Change, would be “more occurrences of devastating weather events and more frequent swings of opposite extremes from one year to the next, with profound socio-economic consequences.”

So now we’re talking about conclusions drawn from other studies. It ain’t just about disaster junkies watching people’s houses fall into the ocean in for the spectacle and blaming it all on CO2.

Such apocryphal stories fueled a menagerie of bizarre blogging alarmists. I was recently interviewed by James Corbett, which incurred the wrath of a few internet snipers trying to denigrate my scientific background.

Apocryphal or apocalyptic? Either fits your argument I suppose.
When you mock your colleagues for being ignorant about natural coastal erosion when they’re quite evidently not, which researchers also look to be actually doing something about learning more about it, I’d say you’re the one doing the most damage to your reputation and credibility, scientific and/or otherwise.

Bob Weber
Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 4:16 pm

Severe weather events across the entire Pacific basin have been increasing for more than 30 years and are expected to double in frequency in coming years, the scientists said in a report published in the journal Nature Geoscience.
They also considered forecasts of extreme La Niña and El Niño events published recently by a separate group of international climate and coastal scientists led by Wenju Cai, a climate modeler at Australia’s Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, Barnard said.
The Cai group predicted that increased global warming and rising sea levels due to climate change would double the frequency of those severe weather events across the Pacific basin.
The result, the group said in a report published this year in the journal Nature Climate Change, would be “more occurrences of devastating weather events and more frequent swings of opposite extremes from one year to the next, with profound socio-economic consequences.

====>>>Brandon, do you agree, and if so, why, to Cai’s assertion that Severe weather events across the entire Pacific basin have been increasing for more than 30 years and are expected to double in frequency in coming years?
“Because they said so” is not a viable answer.

markl
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 4:54 pm

Bob Weber commented: “….“Because they said so” is not a viable answer….”
Especially when last predictions….hurricanes, etc…..failed miserably. It’s just more making it up as they go and they find an untapped potential doom to plug into the AGW narrative.

Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 5:13 pm

Indeed Bob. Cai’s empty assertion ” that Severe weather events across the entire Pacific basin have been increasing for more than 30 years and are expected to double in frequency in coming years?” is not science but weak speculation.
So I repeat “You can recognize those misleading journalists and scientists who are either totally ignorant of natural climate change, or who are politically wedded to a belief in catastrophic CO2 warming, when they falsely argue, as NBC news did, that “frequent swings of opposite extremes” are due to global warming.”
There is absolutely no consensus regards any connection between CO2 and El Nino strength or frequency. Half the models project fewer El Ninos and the other half project more. Those who deceptively politicize science will always cherry pick a journal article that speculates catastrophic global warming. It is not science, it is not substantiated. It is pure speculation highlighted and abused by alarmists.

Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 5:24 pm

markl, Your comment is spot on! My favorite example of failed models that hype future catastrophes comes from a published paper on North American droughts that was highlighted in the last National Assessement. The models totally failed to simulate droughts over the past 100 years, and based on their models’ simulations there was no Dust Bowl. However the models did simulate increasing devastating droughts in the future. So the National Assessment ignored the models’ failures to simulate what was already known, and hyped the totally speculative future devastation. That is the type of crap Brandon Gates and his ilk promote.
Who would ever trust a team of doctors with our health, if they had totally failed in their past diagnoses!
http://landscapesandcycles.net/image/95477064.png

Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 6:11 pm

“…Only five years ago, an unusual weather pattern during an El Niño winter brought extreme wave heights and unprecedented erosion…”

What a bizarre statement. Californian’s have known what the term “surf’s up” means since the 1950s. It only started the alarmists claiming CO2 impact recently when they’ve been unable to seriously prove any CO2 effect.

“…When you mock your colleagues for being ignorant about natural coastal erosion when they’re quite evidently not…”

A blunt falsehood Gates. Jim Steele did not knock any colleagues.

“….which researchers also look to be actually doing something about learning more about it…”

Which researchers? And what exactly are they doing? A couple of season’s of assumptions does not make research.
Let us know exactly what fifty years of geotagged coastlines. I am especially curious how the scientists plan to identify which rock or which clump of sand is allegedly geotagged.
Typical urban geeks lost in the desert… “Where’d all of the rocks, sand and cacti come from? isn’t there a starbucks or quick grocery anywhere near?”

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 7:05 pm

Bob Weber,

“Because they said so” is not a viable answer.

Telling me how I may or may not answer is not a viable … “request”.
I have not read the study, so I don’t have an informed answer to give you. Thank you for noting Dr. Steele’s treatment of these two news articles was, shall we say, less than complete.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 7:53 pm

ATheoK,

“…Only five years ago, an unusual weather pattern during an El Niño winter brought extreme wave heights and unprecedented erosion…”
What a bizarre statement. Californian’s have known what the term “surf’s up” means since the 1950s.

Like I said, potentially cringe-worthy.

It only started the alarmists claiming CO2 impact recently when they’ve been unable to seriously prove any CO2 effect.

What so-called “alarmists” allegedly do or don’t isn’t relevant to what Steele has done here.

“…When you mock your colleagues for being ignorant about natural coastal erosion when they’re quite evidently not…”
A blunt falsehood Gates. Jim Steele did not knock any colleagues.

So long as he trades under his title …
Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University
… and writes things like this about other scientists …
But it was more bizarre that this dot on the map could be extrapolated into an icon of CO2 climate change. I could only laugh as ridiculous CO2 alarmists who metamorphosed a local disaster, brought about by ignorance of natural coastal changes, into a global warming “crystal ball”.
… or more explicitly …
You can recognize those misleading journalists and scientists who are either totally ignorant of natural climate change, or who are politically wedded to a belief in catastrophic CO2 warming, when they falsely argue, as NBC news did, that “frequent swings of opposite extremes” are due to global warming.
… he’s mocking colleagues in my book. “Mocking” here was mild on my part, he’s actually implying that they’re dishonest. “Frequent swings of opposite extremes” is in direct reference to Cai et al. (2015), “Increased frequency of extreme La Niña events under greenhouse warming”: http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v5/n2/full/nclimate2492.html?WT.ec_id=NCLIMATE-201502

Which researchers? And what exactly are they doing?

Already cited in context in my original post:
Matt Merrifield, The Nature Conservancy
Lesley Ewing, senior coastal engineer, California Coastal Commission
Patrick Barnard, lead coastal geologist, U.S. Geological Survey’s Marine Science Center, Santa Cruz, CA
Wenju Cai, climate modeler, Australia’s Scientific and Industrial Research Organization
Read the articles to find out what they’re doing … you really shouldn’t need me for that.

A couple of season’s of assumptions does not make research.

Not conclusive research, no. One session of research is still research however. Pile up enough of it over time, and it becomes more meaninful. Pretty standard scientific practice.

Let us know exactly what fifty years of geotagged coastlines.

None so far as I can glean from these two news articles. The availability of relatively inexpensive drones, and a cadre of drone enthusiasts flying them is apparently what is making it feasible to begin gathering that kind of data.

I am especially curious how the scientists plan to identify which rock or which clump of sand is allegedly geotagged.

Why don’t you ask Dr. Steele here how he knows so much more about the history of natural coastal weathering without such data?

Bob Weber
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 8:29 pm

“Telling me how I may or may not answer is not a viable … “request”.” – Brandon Gates
Really? How do your antagonistic demands of Jim to write his article your way constitute a ‘viable request’? Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical of you to tell me that after you basically just told Jim how he should have written his article?
Jim mentioned a few things from those articles you cited, but he or any other writer is under no obligation to satisfy your demand to write the article the way you want. I’m sorry Brandon, but your expectations here are unreasonable, and no one is stopping you from writing your own article.
“I have not read the study, so I don’t have an informed answer to give you.” – Brandon Gates
Thank you for honestly telling me you don’t know the answer. If you haven’t read the study, why are you defending it? If you don’t know the answer, why are you promoting Cai’s assertions? Because they said so?
Do you agree or disagree that the world is going to just keep right on warming for the next 30 years as Cai infers, and how? How are severe weather events going to double in 30 years?
Don’t you see the absurdity in these claims? It’s absurd for you to promote a study you haven’t read and then on top of it cop an attitude about the whole thing.
You did make a good point in your original comment when you asked, “El Nino is a natural phenomenon, is it not?”
That is so true.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 30, 2016 9:15 pm

Bob Weber,

Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical of you to tell me that after you basically just told Jim how he should have written his article?

No.

Jim mentioned a few things from those articles you cited, but he or any other writer is under no obligation to satisfy your demand to write the article the way you want.

Of course not. I am free, however, to note that his OP made some glaring omissions.

I’m sorry Brandon, but your expectations here are unreasonable, and no one is stopping you from writing your own article.

You don’t get to dictate my expectations to me either. I don’t need, or want, to write a whole article to make the point I have already covered in my original comment.

Thank you for honestly telling me you don’t know the answer. If you haven’t read the study, why are you defending it?

I’m not defending it. I haven’t read it. Tough to mount a defense of something I haven’t read.

If you don’t know the answer, why are you promoting Cai’s assertions? Because they said so?

See above.

Do you agree or disagree that the world is going to just keep right on warming for the next 30 years as Cai infers, and how?

I’ve answered that kind of question here more times than I can count. Why is my belief that the world will continue to warm as CO2 levels rise relevant to my critique of Steele’s OP?

How are severe weather events going to double in 30 years?

Presumably by happening twice as often. Cai et al. (2015) is not the only paper discussing this topic, perhaps you should read some.

Don’t you see the absurdity in these claims?

No.

It’s absurd for you to promote a study you haven’t read and then on top of it cop an attitude about the whole thing.

I think it’s absurd for you to say my critique of Steele’s piece constitutes a promotion of Cai et al. (2015).

You did make a good point in your original comment when you asked, “El Nino is a natural phenomenon, is it not?”
That is so true.

And back from chasing squirrels to the point of my original post, isn’t it funny how Steele accuses climatologists of being ignorant of natural processes like ENSO, PDO, etc.? “These swings have occurred for centuries and millennia!” he writes. From where does he get his information? Why does he believe it? Did he do the research himself, or did someone say so on a blog somewhere? Or was it peer-reviewed literature perhaps, hmmm?

Bob Weber
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 7:01 am

Brandon says, “You don’t get to dictate my expectations to me either. I don’t need, or want, to write a whole article to make the point I have already covered in my original comment.”

Funny thing is Brandon, I only suggested that you can write one – I didn’t dictate to you. Now you’re putting words in my mouth. With that statement you now have crossed the incredibility line with me.
Janice Moore was wrong about you. You are not a subtle snake. You are a blatantly SLIPPERY SNAKE whose primary interest and skill is in sticking his finger in people’s eyes! There’s nothing subtle about you. You are nothing but a manipulative narcissistic abuser.
Janice Moore was right about you. You misrepresented even what I said to you, so indeed, you are a teller of half-truths. Thanks Brandon for proving that for me, again.

Brandon says, “Presumably by happening twice as often. Cai et al. (2015) is not the only paper discussing this topic, perhaps you should read some.”

Perhaps I should read some? If it’s not the only paper discussing this paper, then are you telling me it’s not just because Cai et al ‘say so’, now it’s because a few other people ‘say so’? Is that not an appeal to authority? Poor argumentation. What is the scientific basis for your presumption that severe weather events will happen twice as often?
The bottom line Brandon, is that you have a narcissistic personality disorder and you will never allow yourself to be held accountable, while you impose yourself abusively on others. Own it.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 11:03 am

Bob Weber,

Funny thing is Brandon, I only suggested that you can write one – I didn’t dictate to you. Now you’re putting words in my mouth.

Funny thing is “dictate” was in reference to “my expectations”, not writing an article. Who’s putting words in whose mouth here?

Perhaps I should read some? If it’s not the only paper discussing this paper, then are you telling me it’s not just because Cai et al ‘say so’, now it’s because a few other people ‘say so’? Is that not an appeal to authority?

I think you’re going for appeal to popularity. I notice you sailed right over these questions from my last post:
… isn’t it funny how Steele accuses climatologists of being ignorant of natural processes like ENSO, PDO, etc.? From where does he get his information? Why does he believe it? Did he do the research himself, or did someone say so on a blog somewhere? Or was it peer-reviewed literature perhaps, hmmm?
More to the point: why do you apparently believe Steele? Because he said so?

What is the scientific basis for your presumption that severe weather events will happen twice as often?

What part of, “I didn’t read the paper so I cannot give you an informed answer” did you not understand? Why are you still asking me to defend a paper I’ve already told you that I am not defending because I cannot?

Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 2:06 pm

Bob, I empathize with how you are being attacked by the Slippery Snake Brandon Gates, That he will lie and obfuscate has been documented and archived.
When Gates argues “isn’t it funny how Steele accuses climatologists of being ignorant of natural processes like ENSO, PDO, etc.?” is just another prime example of how Gates will slither and change the discussion.
I never accused climatologists in general. I only accused alarmist scientists and journalists of hyping global warming speculation without ever accounting for natural change. Most honest climatologists will agree that El Nino amplifies erosion and will avoid engaging in a global warming debate, But the snake ignores the important details. Gates is Slandering Sou’s mini-me and her obsequious foot soldier. You can tell when the truth threatens Slandering Sou’s blather when she launches a campaign against a skeptical post as she has done now. And if history holds, you can tell her alarmist blather is further threatened, when she sends her pawns like Gates to undermine a blog post. Its predictably hilarious!

Bob Weber
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 3:00 pm

I can see why you have trouble here. You’ve dug your hole deeper with every reply.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 5:31 pm

Jim Steele,

I only accused alarmist scientists and journalists of hyping global warming speculation without ever accounting for natural change.

… by citing two news articles which showed journalists and climate scientists studying coastal erosion due to El Nino and other natural effects. From the NBC article:
Starting this month, The Nature Conservancy is asking tech junkies to capture the flooding and coastal erosion that come with El Nino, a weather pattern that’s bringing California its wettest winter in years — and all in the name of science.
Headline from the Chron article: Scientists see a future of El Niño-fueled coastal erosion
El Nino is a natural phenomenon, is it not?

Most honest climatologists will agree that El Nino amplifies erosion and will avoid engaging in a global warming debate

Let me unpack that and see if I understand your meaning correctly. The climatologists quoted in the above news stories recognizing that El Nino (a natural process) amplifies erosion would have been ok in your book had they not also been engaging in a global warming debate at the same time. You’re exempt from avoiding global warming debate because you’re not a climatologist.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bob Weber
January 31, 2016 5:59 pm

Bob Weber,

I can see why you have trouble here. You’ve dug your hole deeper with every reply.

It must be true if you say so.

Paul Carter
Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 4:53 pm

Cai’s study was based entirely on climate models – he simply ran the models with and without the greenhouse gas factors. Cai published this as a letter to NCC. Trenberth disagrees with Cai’s work:
From “http://www.climatecentral.org/news/climate-change-could-make-super-el-ninos-more-likely-16976”
The core of Cai’s results, that more super El Ninos are likely, was disputed by Kevin Trenberth, a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research.
He said some of the models used in the study overestimate the past number of El Nino events by a wide margin and do a poor job of representing them and their impacts.
This seriously undermines the confidence that the models do an adequate job in ENSO (El Nino-Southern Oscillation) simulations and so why should we trust their future projections?” he said in an email

Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 4:57 pm

Brandon Gates,
Be advised. I once engaged you here at WUWT in a sincere an honest discussion and provided all the links and evidence you requested. Shortly thereafter on Slandering Sou’s site you denigrated me with several lies and misrepresentations of our interactions. You are not to be trusted. Your words are deceptive and misleading and I will never again wast my time responding to you.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 7:08 pm

jim Steele,

Be advised. I once engaged you here at WUWT in a sincere an honest discussion and provided all the links and evidence you requested. Shortly thereafter on Slandering Sou’s site you denigrated me with several lies and misrepresentations of our interactions. You are not to be trusted. Your words are deceptive and misleading and I will never again wast my time responding to you.

Changing the subject to distract from your own misconduct in this post is evasive and dishonest, Steele. By all means, keep digging.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 6:49 pm

ATTENTION ALL WUWT READERS — GATES IS A SUBTLE SNAKE

Brandon Gates,
Be advised. I once engaged you here at WUWT in a sincere and honest discussion and provided all the links and evidence you requested. Shortly thereafter on Slandering Sou’s site you denigrated me with several lies and misrepresentations of our interactions.

You are not to be trusted. Your words are deceptive and misleading and I will never again waste my time responding to you.

One in a Position to Know the Facts about Gates
(Source: Jim Steele, here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/30/pacifica-californias-natural-coastal-erosion-and-the-lust-for-climate-catastrophes/comment-page-1/#comment-2133385 )
B. Gates, under the guise of a genuine seeker of truth, has fooled many a well-intentioned, good hearted, sincere, commenter on WUWT. Time to get the word out: the best thing to say to Gates is, “Get lost, you known misrepresenter (both facts and others’ positions) and teller of half-truths.”

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 30, 2016 7:54 pm

What is it you’re always saying, Janice? “I must be over the target?”

Marcus
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 1:38 am

In your case Brandon, that would be….. ” Under the out house ! “

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 11:04 am

Um, yup. Still over the target.

clipe
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 3:25 pm

brokenbritan [reply to] CandideSchmyles [sniper?]
26 Sep 2013 4:44
Firstly. CandideSchmyles , well done for bringing this to the attention of the authorities. but it goes much deeper than that, my friend.
The Illuminati lizard shape shifters have carelessly left a lot of clues in broad daylight which can be found by people like you and me who are prepared to look hard enough.
The attack began on 21/9/13. 21+9+13 = 43. It’s 43 years since the beatles split up. The terrorists targeted the Chill Out Coffee Stop & Ice Cream Shop at Westgate Mall where many westerners were eating “99” ice creams. ” 99″ ice creams are made by Walls.
Al Shabab were trying to start a revolution. “Revolution Number Nine” on the Beatles’ White Album lasts 8 minutes 15 seconds exactly … that’s 495 seconds … or 99 times 5! Ninety-nine and five – the number of victims of Jack the Ripper – the nickname of the Royal murderer and arch Freemason Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence, whose first victim was discovered in 1888 … on August 31st! Fast forward to August 31st 1997 … Lady Diana is killed when her Mercedes – driven by double agent Henri Paul – hits Pillar Thirteen in the Pont d’Alma Tunnel in Paris. Henri Paul? Sounds familiar? Get this! Actor Paul Henry plays an actor called Benny in the 70s soap Crossroads.
Benny looked after Miss Diane – Lady Diana! Geddit? Not only that – but surprise surprise! Paul McCartney records the theme tune to Crossroads on his 1975 album Venus and Mars …
The self-same McCartney who sang “Revolution Number Nine” on the White Album!, George Bush’s White House, the Whitechapel Murders and the Fiat Uno that forced Henri Paul’s Mercedes off the road! Track nine on the White Album is “Martha My Dear”.
Cut to Martha’s Vineyard, USA … Ted Kennedy crashes his car into the water at Chappaquiddick on July 18th 1969 … the exact same day that Paul McCartney – Yes! Him again! produces the Mary Hopkins single “Pebble and the Man”, catalogue number Apple CT1!
Apple CT1 was released as a promotion for Wall’s Ice Cream! The same ice-cream that’s in a Ninety-nine ice cream.
“Ice cream” is an anagram of “ace crime”, like 911, the Whitechapel murders and the assassination of Lady Di in her Mercedes. Mercedes have hosted business seminars at the NEC International Conference Centre in Birmingham (where Crossroads was made) … as have … get ready for this … Cadbury’s!! Cadbury’s who make the chocolate flakes for 99s!!!Coincidence!? I don’t think so! Let’s look at the evidence … The Queen (who later knighted Paul McCartney for so-called services to music) opened the NEC Conference Centre on June 12th 1991! That date ring any bells? It should do – because George Bush Sr (former US president and long-time business associate of the Bin Laden family) had a birthday on June 12th 1991!
1991! It’s an anagram of 99 and 11, don’t you see? 99 divided by 11 is Nine! Nine-Eleven!! And what’s more, 1991 was George Bush’s 67th birthday!
That’s what they what you to think, but just look at the figures! 67! 6 and 7! Six plus seven is 13 … Thirteen!!! The number of letters in “Osama Bin Laden”, “Paul McCartney”, “The White Album” and “Wall’s Ice Cream”!!! 13 is also the number of the pillar in the Pont d’Alma tunnel that Lady Di’s car crashed into!!!
I think, ladies and gentleman, that the above analysis clearly indicates that Mossad, the CIA, George Bush, the SAS and the Walls Ice Cream company were responsible for what the so called mainstream media would have you believe was a terrorist attack but in reality was a carefully constructed Zionist false flag operation which the illuminati carried out in return for keeping back the truth behind the so called “moon landings” etc etc contd. page 94…
(btw this is a parody)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/25/white-widow-samantha-lewthwaite#comment-27336118
What Charlie said.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/30/pacifica-californias-natural-coastal-erosion-and-the-lust-for-climate-catastrophes/#comment-2133159

u.k(us)
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 4:26 pm

Brandon,
What’s the target ?

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 5:52 pm

Looks like a [trimmed.]

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 7:34 pm

Well I see I’ve exceeded mod’s sense of humor.
[uh, no. Try a combination of links and excessive wording on your part triggering the spam filter. Blame yourself before blaming others -mod]

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 7:42 pm

Mod: Looks like a [trimmed.] <—— I doubt the spam filter did that.
Every single one of my posts has been going to moderation immediately for about a week. Fine with me, your site, your discretion.
[didn’t see that, different mod. but those two repeated posts did in fact go to the spam filter. Try to keep it clean and you won’t be either spammed or trimmed -mod]

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 31, 2016 7:51 pm

No worries mod. Toilet humor was introduced by Marcus upthread well prior to your shift. I’ll happily knock it off.

Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 31, 2016 9:38 pm

I have to wonder why I comment on this site. Over the years I have had more mod-kills than successful postings, and yet every thread becomes a cesspit.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Janice Moore
February 1, 2016 12:36 pm

It’s hard to argue that Don Quixote wasn’t a character of principle.

Bill Partin
Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 30, 2016 9:51 pm

Troll alert. Just ignore him and he will go away.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Bill Partin
January 30, 2016 10:15 pm

Matthew 7:6

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Bill Partin
January 30, 2016 10:53 pm

I’ve always been partial to verses 3-5 myself, but find them even harder to follow than 6.

Marcus
Reply to  Brandon Gates
January 31, 2016 1:26 am

Brandon, your ignorance of reality is…unprecedented !!

January 30, 2016 2:56 pm

Dr. Steele, you write “Sea level rise varies most between El Nino and La Nina events.”
To illustrate this from a public source I found
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2015_rel4/sl_mei.png
See http://sealevel.colorado.edu/
The Sea Level Research Group, University of Colorado, seem to be finding a very strong 2014/15 El Niño.

pdtillman
January 30, 2016 3:17 pm

Jim: you live in a nice town!
Let’s see if I can link a good drone video of the dramatic “event”:

You may note that the apartments were built on SAND — Pleistocene dunes from the last Ice Age, most likely. Not too stable when the big winter waves come….
Pacifica is notorious for lax permitting of obviously bad building sites on the coast. Climate change or no.

Reply to  pdtillman
January 30, 2016 4:54 pm

There are people still living in those apartments? Hard to believe. I wouldn’t sleep well. . .
/Mr Lynn

Melbourne Resident
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
January 30, 2016 8:15 pm

Utter madness – it sent a chill down my spine – as an engineering geologist who has worked on slope stability I would be advising the responsible local authority to evacuate all those appartments urgently….

Alan Robertson
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
January 30, 2016 10:07 pm

Only the North building appears to be occupied. Several residents could be seen, watching the breakers and waves, postponing their inevitable flight. Who can blame them for their fascination with the power of the sea?

Marcus
Reply to  pdtillman
January 31, 2016 1:44 am

Home buyers have a simple choice..Do they want a home with a great ocean view or do they want a home that will still be there in 20 years !

Michael Cox
January 30, 2016 3:50 pm

When I wanted to buy a beach house on this stretch of coast, I looked at the fault maps and the cliff compositions. That immediately ruled out Pacifica. I bought down in Davenport, nearer Santa Cruz. Davenport has nice rock cliffs, and I purchased about a hundred yards back from the cliff. The following year was the ’98 El Niño, and I was watching the 50′ swells roll in from atop our rock cliffs, while a few houses in Pacifica fell off the sand cliffs. I couldn’t imagine why anyone would have bought there, and only later came to realize that the cliff had retreated many yards since they were built. It was still a poor place to put a house, but the original owners were probably long departed from this mortal coil. Someday my old place will suffer the same fate, if it’s still standing in a couple of centuries.

January 30, 2016 5:01 pm

Another excellent and eye-opening essay, Dr Steele. We are all the beneficiaries of your detailed knowledge of local environments, astute observations on the broader picture, and good writing.
One nit: The plural of El Niño is El Niños, not El Niño’s, and similarly for La Niñas.
/Mr Lynn

Barbara
January 30, 2016 5:11 pm

Wonder how safe the large Lake Michigan pumped storage facility near the east coast of Lake Michigan is given the battering this coast has taken over the centuries?

otsar
January 30, 2016 5:12 pm

Once upon a time, before global warming, in the 1950s, there was a road that ran from John Daly Boulevard in Westlake to Palmetto Blvd in Pacifica. The road ran along the ocean cliffs. There is very little trace of it.

January 30, 2016 5:26 pm

Dr.Steele,
Thanks for another very interesting post and a hike down memory cliffs :-).
I used to live on the coast there in SF, Daly City, and Pacifica during the 60’s and 70’s. A good friend was killed at Devil’s slide when his car went off the road there due to a slip in the asphalt.
These events have nothing to do with “climate change”, as you have pointed out..
Here are some historical photos and a report of one area I spent a lot of time at , just slightly north of Mussel Rock ,now called Avalon canyon (or Daisaku Ikeda canyon).
I don’t think it even had a name back then, but at some point (70’s?) they built a new paved road to access some sort of storm drain that was installed in the canyon.
In the 60’s, I used to hike down to the beach daily from my house just two blocks away , behind the “church” (then it was a Buddhist hall), to body surf and run my dogs. There was no “road” except for some fairly steep hiking paths. The only “road” there was a remnant of a highway ( I think at one time it was a part of Hwy 1) that had been taken out by a slide sometime earlier in the 20th century.
It was a cool place in more ways than one. We used to say it was the foggiest place on earth , outdoing even London.
Often would run into sea lions basking, and there was an abundance of other wildlife that lived there too. It was a great place to fossil hunt ! Who knew there were oceangoing hippos in California at one time?
This link shows photos comparing the area from 1972 and 2013.
http://www.californiacoastline.org/cgi-bin/timecompare.cgi?image=201306374&latdeg=37.681745&longdeg=122.501407&flags=0&year=current&hidden=30648&oneimage=1972/7216109-current/201306374-
Posting a link to another publication that shows a photo of the area from the 50’s, before many of the houses were built .The photo is around 2/3 of the way down (Westlake), sorry I couldn’t seem to just copy the picture.
http://www.sustainablesanmateo.org/home/indicators-report/key-indicator/transportation-history/
It shows the old highway too.
The next link is a report of a slide in the same area that took place in 2003. It goes into great detail regarding the same geological factors that Dr. Steele has pointed out and there are some great photos in it too.
http://www.cottonshires.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/PJ_DRM_Northridge_Bluff_Landslide_paper.pdf
Finally, I found a link to a video taken just last year by an intrepid bicyclist going down the “new” paved road into the canyon–note how the road has already slipped away in some areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19mPa7XAr3Y (

Reply to  msbehavin'
January 30, 2016 5:40 pm

misbehave’ Thanks for the links. The paper on the Northridge Bluff Landslide is particularly informative.
Do you miss the area?

Reply to  jim Steele
January 30, 2016 7:26 pm

There are many things I miss about the area! So much history, natural and cultural, so many places to explore! So much to do!
I used to keep horses in Pacifica during the 70’s at what came to be called Coastside Corral (used to be Saddle Town before Pacifica became built up). At that time it seemed like one could ride as far as one wanted to in most directions. They had already started paving over most of the bridle paths in SF for joggers and bicyclists.
Used to love to go to the tidepools at Moss Beach (took my kids there too after they came along).
Don’t miss the damp, foggy , windy, cold though! The ocean water there gets downright frigid! I took a thermometer in with me one time because I’d always turn blue when body surfing (sans wetsuit) –it was 38F.
Of course where I live now, summer days are often over 100F-that isn’t much fun either LOL.
Sorry to go off topic, but as far as urban areas go, there is no place I like more than SF + surrounding peninsular areas.
Thanks again for a great post!

John F. Hultquist
January 30, 2016 5:48 pm

Thanks Jim.
The scientific and historical material is great.
I actually visited the touristy lookout at Seal Rocks in 1963. That is as close to Pacifica as I am likely to get. Thus, can’t add to the topic.
You mentioned the tunnel. I used Google Earth and its series of photos to see when and how the 2 ends developed as it was constructed. The focus is bad on some of them but, still, viewing that and the old road is interesting.
I now live in Washington State. WA has its own coastal issues such that one place is called Washaway Beach.
Washaway Beach is, well, washing away. Google Earth will locate Washaway Beach, WA for you. A couple of years ago the erosion took a few houses and so was much in the news, but this has been an on-going problem for many years.
The name is not new.
A lady named Erika Langley lives nearby and has a nice photo gallery, in this case called “Tides-A-Com’n”.

January 30, 2016 6:14 pm

Excellent article Jim Steele!
Sounds like now is the time to wander the beaches there looking for jade!