Priceless photo – snow and palm trees juxtaposed in Southern California thanks to El Niño

Southern California has gotten quite  bit of weather lately, thanks to the changes in the jet stream track in this El Niño year. readers may recall my post from last week: El Nino turns ‘el mean yo’ for California where I had a front page of the Bakersfield newspaper showing a snowstorm in progress over the Tehachapi Mountains. There were more storms after that, and many mountains in Southern California now look like mountains in the Sierra Nevada. This one of a kind photo, showing mountains and the beach, pretty well sums up the scene.


Photo by Elena Zimina, taken from the Huntington beach Pier, looking east. Downtown Huntington Beach and the Pacific Coast Highway (CA101) are in the middle of the photo just beyond the palms.

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January 12, 2016 5:15 pm

Minor detail – the PCH is Calif. Hwy. 1.

Reply to  Chad Jessup
January 12, 2016 5:22 pm

In parts it is US 101, but in no place is it CA 101.

Tom in Florida
January 12, 2016 5:19 pm

No big deal to those on The Big Island.

January 12, 2016 5:20 pm

Christ, I grew up on the beach in LA and you see that every year.

Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 12, 2016 5:35 pm

be suggesting that last year’s hype about no snow on the mountains last year was just a weather event fluke and totally unconnected to CO2 warming. Yes?

Reply to  jim Steele
January 12, 2016 9:59 pm

I’ll second the YES.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 12, 2016 6:25 pm

Lol, Rattus Norvegicus, do you think He did not know?

Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 9:04 pm

Well, if he’d known it wasn’t unusual he probably wouldn’t have drawn attention to it, eh? I learned to ski in those mountains.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 10:11 pm

Dear Rattus Norvegicus,
I capitalized that “H” on purpose… . 🙂
Re: skiing in spite of having to drive for hours to get there, your Norwegian (if I’m not mistaken) ancestors would be proud! I grew up within 1.5 hours of the Mt. Baker ski area and it feels REALLY REALLY icky at this time of year to be more than 5 hours from any snow!!! And I’m only 1/8 Norwegian. And I hope I NEVER have to live more than 40 minutes from the salt water. I swear, love of snow and of salt water is in the genes!
Your WUWT Ally for Truth and Snow Sports,

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 11:57 pm

Still pining for the Fiords?

Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 12, 2016 7:43 pm


Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 12, 2016 8:28 pm

New Year’s day 2014 in Tucson had snow ON the palm trees at 2800ft elevation – not background snow but actually on the fronds.
Mighty chilly – – but obviously just an anomaly /sarc

Reply to  GeologyJim
January 14, 2016 9:47 am

I had snow on my date palms several times when I lived in SW Houston.

Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 13, 2016 12:52 am

Rattus- I grew up in Huntington Beach and the snow was not that unusual, but seeing it was more unusual due to air quality. I also have no recollection of the mountains being that close. Are we sure that wasn’t photoshopped? Here are some random photos on google that match more with MY recollection as to the visibility of the mountains…

Reply to  Louise Nicholas
January 13, 2016 2:13 am

It was taken with a telephoto lens most likely, similar to giant moon photos.:

Reply to  Louise Nicholas
January 13, 2016 3:36 am

I second the photo shop idea. I grew up in Rancho Cucamonga. The view of the mountains looks like Cucamonga peak taken from Riverside, CA.

Ron Singer
Reply to  Louise Nicholas
January 13, 2016 4:20 am

Does the word ‘juxtaposed’ in the title explain the unusual perspective. Locals all seem to think it is photoshopped. They additionally point to the band of fog between the tree line and the mountain.

Reply to  Louise Nicholas
January 14, 2016 8:58 am

I doubt this was Photoshopped. I took an almost identical photo on my cell phone two days ago from just up PCH at Seal Beach. And snow on Mount Baldy is certainly not uncommon. On New Year’s Day last year we got three inches of snow in Temecula, but the local Home Depot didn’t even have snow shovels! Living in San Jose, snow on Mount Hamilton in the winter was a regular winter occurrence.

Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 13, 2016 7:52 am

And those mountains are also good for keeping the smog away from the cities on the East side of the mountains (usually).

David Ball
Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 13, 2016 8:06 am

So, no global warming then Rattus? Shouldn’t there be no snow there now according to NASA, NOAA, IPCC, AGU, UCS, WWF, Sierra club, and a litany of other’s? You alarmists always miss the point. It is a mockery of your false claims.

Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 13, 2016 10:35 am


Reply to  Rattus Norvegicus
January 14, 2016 7:02 am

Palm Trees with snow capped mountains in the back ground happens every year in So. Cal when a cold storm blows through. But the heavy snowfall in Forest Falls area that downed pine trees was not normal.
But the picture was not a good choice to call “thanks to el nino’

Mike Smith
January 12, 2016 5:22 pm

I was visiting Anaheim on business in 1987. They closed Disneyland because of the snow:
Just in case someone tries to tell you this year has seen record “extreme weather” due to AGW.

Mick In The Hills
Reply to  Mike Smith
January 12, 2016 5:36 pm

Yeah check out the story on Tim Blair’s blog about the climate activist born in 1991. No global warming for almost her entire life, but no doubt she’d assert that this winter in LA is the record for changy-type weather.

January 12, 2016 6:09 pm

I can see fairly robust correlation between the top of the trees and the top of the mountains . . I fear I may have PCGS (Post Climatic Graph Syndrome ; )

Reply to  JohnKnight
January 12, 2016 6:26 pm

Now THAT was funny!!! Nearly gave my puter screen a splash of delicious red wine!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 12, 2016 6:38 pm

Pamela, Pamela, Pamela, 🙂
Please remember that there is [a] hopeless romantic out here who will be very grateful if you share any “news” (now, re: new chapter in the continuing saga — hey, at least YOUR “saga’s” plot moves along steadily!).
Wishing you all the best in 2016!

Bill Treuren
Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 12, 2016 7:36 pm

Drinking and Putering

Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 13, 2016 2:51 pm

That would be a “good spill” as opposed to a “bad spill”:comment image

Reply to  JohnKnight
January 12, 2016 9:31 pm

You might indeed! That’s hilarious; it’s a reasonable but not excellent correlation!!!

Steve Fraser
Reply to  JohnKnight
January 13, 2016 1:00 am

Prone to perspective bias, IMO…

Reply to  JohnKnight
January 13, 2016 4:17 am

Oh help, now I see it too! It’s like seeing fnords.

Reply to  Richard A. O'Keefe
January 13, 2016 6:08 am

Is the Fnord parked next to the Insuzu and the Fniat?

January 12, 2016 6:20 pm

The memo went out and we are all condemned to listen to weather broadcasts that assert ordinary winter in the United States is “SEVERE WEATHER” Should fall be unseasonably warm it is no longer an Indian summer; should winter break for a bit and warm up we can no longer call it a false spring. Should the Mississippi River and it’s tributaries flood or tornadoes hit the great plains…the world will never be the same again

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  fossilsage
January 12, 2016 8:45 pm

should winter break for a bit and warm up
Often called The January Thaw. You can look it up.
{Maybe you were thinking of something a month or two on.}

Reply to  John F. Hultquist
January 13, 2016 1:11 pm

hey, part of the fun involving idioms is they are different in different parts of the country. The fact remains that for the last 9000 years or so as farmers tend to their crops they have come up with hundreds of ways to describe the nuances of weather and have always battled too much or not enough moisture no matter how “mild” the Climate hence the great engineering projects commencing , what, maybe 7000 years ago to bring water to the fields in a controlled way.

Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 6:35 pm

In Alberta, we are thinking of changing the name of chinooks to DiCaprios.
[Please do not insult perfectly good (if a bit old) helicopters (er, things that blow blasts of hot air) by comparing them to CAGW-worshipping film stars. .mod]

Janice Moore
Reply to  Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 6:39 pm

lol — ’cause he discovered ’em!

Reply to  Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 7:08 pm

Shouldn’t that be ” DUH Caprio ” ???

Janice Moore
Reply to  Marcus
January 12, 2016 7:09 pm


Reply to  Marcus
January 12, 2016 7:11 pm

… I bet DUH Caprio wears SNUGGIES !! LOL

Reply to  Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 9:36 pm

Both the post by Shocked Citizen and the Mod’s comment had me laughing really loudly. It’s just as well I’d finished my afternoon cup of tea.
At present we have a temp. of 42C. It’s not exactly unheard of in January in Victoria (Aus) but you’d never think it from some of the hype.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Annie
January 12, 2016 11:50 pm

Pretty warm here in Sydney too…not 42c, but humid with it. But the MSM keep bleating on and on about scorching this and scorching that. It’s SUMMER!!! Will be back to 22c on Friday!

Reply to  Annie
January 13, 2016 4:20 am

I lived in Melbourne, Victoria from 1990 to 1997. We regularly got temperatures in the 40s. I liked pretty much everything else about Melbourne. (Oh and the bush flies that blew down from the desert.)

Reply to  Annie
January 13, 2016 4:21 am

yeah she did get a tad warm today 😉
the winds were the pig..lost a large branch across the driveway and sawing that by hand in the heat was NOT fun.
over at iceagenow a report on Finlands MINUS 40 temps…made me rethink about heat
at least we can douse ourselves with water n sit in the shade n be ok
losing ones extremities to frostbite is def NOT a good look.

Reply to  Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 10:02 pm

More like DiCrapios

Shocked Citizen
Reply to  Shocked Citizen
January 12, 2016 10:55 pm

Good point. I had no intention of insulting either the helicopters or the blasts of warm air over the Rockies that can bring relief from temperatures of -30 C (which would have been -30.8 without global warming).

January 12, 2016 6:38 pm

What’s new? Ever been in the Alberta Foothills in winter time when the Chinook blows?
Temperature can change 20 Celsius degrees within a day.

Reply to  afjacobs
January 12, 2016 7:53 pm

Out west, that can happen within minutes.

DD More
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
January 13, 2016 11:29 am

Okay Shocked, but how fast did it fall back?
The reason is that the Black Hills of South Dakota are home to the world’s fastest recorded rise in temperature, a record that has held for nearly six decades.
On January 22, 1943, the northern and eastern slopes of the Black Hills were at the western edge of an Arctic airmass and under a temperature inversion. A layer of shallow Arctic air hugged the ground from Spearfish to Rapid City. At about 7:30am MST, the temperature in Spearfish was -4 degrees Fahrenheit. The chinook kicked in, and two minutes later the temperature was 45 degrees above zero. The 49 degree rise in two minutes set a world record that is still on the books. By 9:00am, the temperature had risen to 54 degrees. Suddenly, the chinook died down and the temperature tumbled back to -4 degrees. The 58 degree drop took only 27 minutes.
But using TOB recalculations, no change is given anymore.

Reply to  noaaprogrammer
January 13, 2016 2:06 pm

…But using TOB recalculations, no change is given anymore….
That’s just wrong. As in making events like that disappear is wrong.

Bill Murphy
Reply to  afjacobs
January 12, 2016 11:27 pm

11/11/1911 A large part of the central US set all-time record highs AND lows on the same day when an Arctic low overran a strong high. Warm and pleasant early followed by several cases of frostbite and hypothermia in the afternoon and evening. Oklahoma City had a high of 83 °F (28 °C) and low of 17 °F (−8 °C); temperature difference: 66 °F (36 °C). Springfield, MO was at 80 °F (27 °C) at about 3:45 PM, before the cold front moved through. Fifteen minutes later, the temperature was at 40 °F (4 °C) with winds blasting out of the Northwest at 40 mph (64 km/h). By 7:00 P.M. Central Standard Time (01:00 UTC 12 November) the temperature had dropped a further 20 °F, and by midnight, a record low of 13 °F (−11 °C) was established. Also, not surprisingly, several tornadoes up to F4 around the country as well.
Scary to think of the headlines if that happened again now…,_1911

Phil's Dad
January 12, 2016 6:52 pm

Is the blue box the weather station?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Phil's Dad
January 12, 2016 6:58 pm

Well…. in a way….. . Your very sharp eyes spotted ….. NOAA’s new DUD (Data Uniformity Dept.) land surface temperature data collection box. That one is the Arctic Circle Temperature Data station.

Tom Judd
Reply to  Phil's Dad
January 12, 2016 7:00 pm

No, it’s Pee Wee Herman’s beachfront summer home.

Mark and two Cats
Reply to  Tom Judd
January 12, 2016 8:47 pm

Is there a movie theatre inside?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Tom Judd
January 12, 2016 8:58 pm

Hi, Mark,
Lol, just FYI: one of your cats just posted under your name. 🙂
Tell him or her that it COULD be so…. just bring laptop and DVD… and it would be the purrrrfect little kitty theatre (and litter box — combined!).
May 2016 be your best year ever, O Man Greathearted Enough to Like Cats,
(the smaller-hearted dog person 🙂 )

Mark and two Cats
Reply to  Tom Judd
January 12, 2016 11:12 pm

Janice you be not smaller-hearted 🙂

Janice Moore
Reply to  Tom Judd
January 13, 2016 8:24 am

Thanks, Mark! 🙂

Reply to  Phil's Dad
January 14, 2016 9:01 am

Pam Andersen’s summer home, actually.

January 12, 2016 7:20 pm

Well….. up here on the “North Coast” (aka the southern shores of Lake Ontario) we are still waiting on that outburst of Palm Trees caused by the “Man Made Global Warming”. We have some snow, now all we need are the palm trees.
I thought I saw a palm tree sprouting during our last “Extreme Weather Event” (aka Summer), but turns out it was just a dandelion…..
Cheers, KevinK.

Reply to  Marcus
January 12, 2016 7:32 pm

I’ve had my car “iced over” by freezing spray from the Great Lakes, luckily I just call in sick to work and tell them I can probably make that meeting scheduled for May…
Har har..
Cheers, KevinK.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  KevinK
January 13, 2016 12:05 am

In the coldest town on earth, somewhere in Russia and some other extreme northern towns, vehicle engines are insulated, literally wrapped in blankets, and left running over night if left outside. Or, if you were lucky enough, had a heated garage.

chris moffatt
Reply to  KevinK
January 13, 2016 4:11 am

In Labrador we had three engine heaters (bottom rad hose, block heater, dipstick heater) and a battery heater. If you forgot to plug them in too bad!!

Leon Brozyna
January 12, 2016 7:24 pm

The perfect photo to illustrate:
• global warming (palm trees in a winter setting)
• global cooling (snow in a tropical paradise)
• climate change (spin it however you want)
• extreme weather events (monster snow dump)
• man encroaching on pristine nature (look at all those evil cars and roads and buildings despoiling beautiful nature …)
Only hateful environmentalists can turn a vision of joyous possibilities into visions of cataclysmic doom.

Reply to  Leon Brozyna
January 13, 2016 3:50 am

Only hateful environmentalists can turn a vision of joyous possibilities into visions of cataclysmic doom.

Sometimes it’s like they’re not living on the same planet. It shows up strongly when they’re talking about wind and solar power. Their experts would have us believe that wind power is totally feasible and we should just get on with it. Obama’s speech last night is a prime example of their wishful thinking:

“How do we reignite that spirit of innovation to meet our biggest challenge? Sixty years ago, when the Russians beat us into space, we didn’t deny Sputnik was up there. We didn’t argue about the science or shrink our research and development budget, we built a space program almost overnight and twelve years later, we were walking on the moon.”

He thinks that if we just throw enough money at the problem we will develop the necessary technology. He’s almost certainly wrong.
The space program resulted in many wonderful technological developments. For instance it speeded up the development of microelectronics and led to the computing power that surrounds us in our daily lives.
What Obama and friends miss is that spending the money worked because the conditions were right. If they had tried to get to the moon even fifty years previously they couldn’t have done it no matter how much money they spent.
We were able to beat the Soviets to the moon because we had better computing. We had better computing because we had just invented the integrated circuit. The conditions were right.
The problem with wind and solar is that we don’t have adequate energy storage technology. We have been working on that for a long time and no breakthroughs are in sight. The conditions are not right to warrant an attempt to speed up the technology by spending vast gobs of money. Obama’s advisors should know better.

Reply to  commieBob
January 13, 2016 6:13 am

I’m sure they do no better. The spending is intended to make his friends and donors rich. If any technological developments come from it, that’s just icing on the cake.

Reply to  commieBob
January 13, 2016 11:34 am

commieBob said: “He thinks that if we just throw enough money at the problem we will develop the necessary technology. He’s almost certainly wrong.”
What Obama and friends miss is nothing. None of this is by accident. None of this is misguided. It is all deliberate, orchestrated and all consequences are intended. The problems being solved are stripping you of your undeserved wealth first, then beating the western nations into third-world status and installing a totalitarian world government.
If you doubt this, just do some more digging, reading and thinking. When the light bulb comes on, it hurts at first, then it all becomes clear.

Reply to  Leon Brozyna
January 13, 2016 2:25 pm

Leon, you left out the palm trees as evidence of “man encroaching on pristine nature.” There is a native palm in southern California, but not those long tall ones.

January 12, 2016 8:07 pm

Sorry to burst this balloon, but snowstorms
over the Tehachapi Mountains are nothing
new really, and that photo isn’t really one of
a kind, except in the sense that every photo
is unique as an image from a particular point
of view and composition,
In 2013 it was a similar story, and many times
previously, as a simple Google Search revealed.
Google image search for Tehachapi +snow turned
up an image from December 2014, of very deep snow,
which led to this artist’s page and I’ll let him describe
the event from his point of view.×6-acrylic
What you see is a painting of a photograph.
The painting was made in early 2015. Still this
illustrates perhaps that the Public perception
of the expectation of continued Global Warming
has infiltrated the brains of people to such an extent
that anything to the contrary seems somehow unusual.
The picture shown in the original story would make
a nice postcard for the tourist shops locally, if the
horriffic blue Dalek thing was photoshopped away from
off the beach. Then maybe the photographer could be
on to a winner there. The image however proves nothing
either way, about whether it is cooling or warming
in the Tehachapi Mountains.
What the **** is that blue Dalek thing ?
That was the main question in my
mind after examining that picture !

Retried Engineer Jim
Reply to  Climate Change Chronicle
January 12, 2016 8:45 pm

That “blue Dalek” thing is probably a life-guard station. People do still go swimming and surfing in the winter. Aren’t the mountins in the background the San Gabriels?

Reply to  Retried Engineer Jim
January 13, 2016 2:39 pm

Since there is no direction indicated it is hard to tell off hand, but the snow pretty much means the San Gabriels. If that is right, the San Andreas fault zone is immediately beyond those mountains and the peaks you are looking at in the photo were the location of the final phase of the Michel-Morley experiment attempting to detect an “aether wind” effect on light..

Reply to  Climate Change Chronicle
January 12, 2016 8:59 pm

It is the lifeguard observation station,

Janice Moore
Reply to  dalyplanet
January 12, 2016 9:03 pm

You can say THAT again, dalyplanet!

Reply to  Climate Change Chronicle
January 12, 2016 8:59 pm

It is the lifeguard observation station,

January 12, 2016 8:37 pm

What the **** is that blue Dalek thing ?

It’ a moon lander used in the fake moon landings.

Janice Moore
Reply to  BruceC
January 12, 2016 9:01 pm

Ah, so THAT’s where it ended up… . Thought they could fool us by painting it blue! Well! Ha! Bruce C figured it out! 🙂

Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 9:57 pm

Don’t know which one it is though Janice. Apollo’s 12, 14 and 17 are accounted for.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 9:59 pm

ooooOOOOoooooh, Bruce. That’s what they want you to think! 😉

Bill Murphy
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 12, 2016 11:42 pm

Please, Bruce & Janice! Lewandowsky will think you’re serious! CAGWites don’t react well to sarcasm (or humour of any kind for that matter.)

Reply to  Janice Moore
January 13, 2016 4:11 am

Sorry Bill 🙂
Oh, just an update. Apollo’s 11 & 13 are also accounted for. That only leaves 15 & 16.

January 12, 2016 8:48 pm

blue thingy is a life guard tower.

January 12, 2016 9:54 pm

I grew up (70 or so years ago) at the foot of Mt. Wilson and it was SOP for some people to go skiiing at Kratka Ridge or Mt. Waterman in the morning and in Santa Monica after lunch.

Owen in GA
Reply to  Larry
January 13, 2016 7:31 am

Skiing in Santa Monica must have been behind a boat. (kidding)

Reply to  Owen in GA
January 13, 2016 4:37 pm

That was my point, precisely.
And it was not unheard of for the participants to switch from one to the other with no change of attire.

January 12, 2016 10:29 pm

We seem to have lost all sense of normalcy. Nothing we have seen this year so far has been ninoesque in the least. This is NORMAL(so far).
A bit of confusion has developed in the atmospheric community about the relationship between “atmospheric rivers” and ninos. Maybe it’s like the relationship between ninos and PDO where cold PDO’s correlate strongly with fewer ninos?
Anyway, Jay Lund At U.C. Davis finds an R^2 of .02 between Sacto/San Joaquin tributary runoff and ninos.
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I doubt the statistics have even been run for atmospheric rivers and ninos. At least a master’s thesis awaits.
Bottom line we don’t know Jack. Be humble.

January 12, 2016 10:33 pm

I used to race motorcycles in the SoCal Mojave desert, district 37, in the ’70s and we raced in snow frequently. But that was when we were being warned about global cooling, that being the disaster of choice of the 97% consensus at the time.

Big Griz
January 12, 2016 11:06 pm

I used to live 3 blocks away at 6th & Olive. You can get to Mt Baldy ski area in a hour and a half.

Mark and two Cats
January 12, 2016 11:16 pm

They shoulda photoshopped a polar bear climbing one of the palm trees.

Stephen Wilde
January 13, 2016 12:42 am

El Nino (and other ocean oscillations) shifts the jets and climate zones from below whereas the sun shifts them from above.
The constant ever varying natural interplay between the two is climate change.

January 13, 2016 1:58 am

The view is more to the north then it is to the east. The mountain is Mt. San Antonio, “Mt Baldy”, with its top over 10K feet.. To the east of Huntington Beach is Saddle Back.

Reply to  willhaas
January 13, 2016 5:02 am

Dead on Will! I’ve got a photo of the surf, city, mountains in my office, taken from an area in Seal Beach. It shows a similar phenomenon. From my balcony in NB I couldn’t get the right angle to make my own. Riding up the Harding Truck Trail on a MB you found out that March in higher elevations was damned cold.

Nigel S
January 13, 2016 5:44 am

This will be a good spot for a photo when the terrifying ‘Arctic SNOWBOMB’ arrives. Palm trees on the beach on the west coast of Scotland thanks to the Gulf Stream.

January 13, 2016 6:04 am

I’ve seen pictures of Pasadena back in the 60’s, when they had snow ON the palm trees.

January 13, 2016 8:29 am

The picture is for the most part of the San Gabriels as seen from the far end of the Huntington Beach Pier. The building on the right side of the photo is at 6th and PCH. willhass is correct in identifying Mt. Baldy. Other mountains seen in the photo are; West Baldy, Harwood Pk and Mt. Baden Powell. Other less prominent mountains are seen too.
This isn’t an unusual thing to see in the winter in SoCal but I guess since the AGW crowd keeps telling us there will be less and less snow as the earth boils it will become a thing of the past.
This morning I had to scrape frost off my windshield, I live in Norco, CA. Already this winter I’ve had several outdoor plants damaged by cold weather. Where’s El Nino to warm things up with you need it most?

January 13, 2016 10:23 am

Those mountains are 10,000 feet high – they get snow every year. Several ski resorts in those mountains as well. It isn’t a surprise to see snow in the mountains outside LA.

Reply to  marque2
January 13, 2016 11:26 am

I guess it went over your head I !!

January 13, 2016 12:31 pm

The close juxtaposition of mountains and beach seen here is obviously Photoshopped. Google search reveals the photographer to be a Huntington Beach realtor. Realtors are also fond of using the vignetting and high dynamic range effects seen in this image.

Reply to  Tom
January 13, 2016 3:42 pm

What exactly does “the vignetting and high dynamic range effects ” even mean ??
I’m lucky to get a photo into my computer, and then share it with anyone that might even care.

Ernest Bush
Reply to  Tom
January 13, 2016 9:00 pm

An internet search will quickly turn up many photos like this along the coast. Grapevine Pass north of L.A. on I5 becomes a nightmare for drivers during the same snow falls this time of year. The mountains south of Palm Springs often have large amounts of snow on them this time of year easily visible from I10. No telephoto lens required to capture that. Since Tucson was mentioned above, you can take in a mild winter day in Tucson, or go up 9,000 feet to near the top of Mt. Lemmon at the north edge of town to go skiing for the day. It’s a 90 minute trip when the roads at the top are full of ice and snow.

Reply to  Tom
January 13, 2016 10:05 pm

As others have pointed out, this is just the flattening effect of a long telephoto lens on perspective.
The flood of small sensor short focal length lenses in phones and small cameras means this perspective effect is not seen much anymore, but get a medium format or larger sensor with medium telephoto, or a 35mm sensor with 200mm or longer lense and you get the foreshortening effect on perspective.
Oddly, the effect is a direct result of the focal length, (as are depth of field effects), so a 250mm lens gives the same perspective change regardless of film size… but the sensor / film size crops the image circle and determins what we call telephoto. This means that a 250mm lens on an 8 x 10 field camera flattens perspective while not being telephoto…
Folks usually don’t think about that, but high end photoraphers use it all the time. Want shallow depth of field and flattened perspective? Use a bigger film size and long fast lens wide open. Want exaggerated distances and everything in focus? Use a small film size, 18mm lens, stopped down. No photoshop required.
One of my gripes about the Nikon SLRs with APS size sensor. My 24 mm lens is no longer a very wide angle lens, and the “normal” 50mm lens is now a mild telephoto, but doesn’t give as much foreshortening effect as the mild telephoto on full size 35mm sensors. As I love the telephoto perspective and shallow depth of field, I need to find a few $ thousand to buy high end gear to get back to what lower end “medium format” film cameras would do. Sigh.
For photography, sensor size DOES matter. Not just for resolution, but for perspective as well…

Lil Fella of Oz
January 13, 2016 12:38 pm

Next we will get that over used word, ‘co-exist!’ Money gets answers wether they are right or……. doesn’t matter,

January 13, 2016 1:30 pm

Photo not that unusual. Back in the mid-60s, when I lived in Pasadena CA at the base of these mountains, many times in mid-winter I sat on my patio in short-shirt-sleeves, under a lemon tree bearing lemons, and looked up at show covering the top tops. A popular activity was to drive up to Mt Wilson, covered with snow, and pile as much snow as possible on your auto. Then drive it back to the city, still covered with snow but melting fast, amid blooming flowers and people in light clothing.

January 13, 2016 2:59 pm

This just in: Tornado warnings SE and NE of Red Bluff, CA. Heavy rain. These are north of Chico where Anthony lives (I think).

Reply to  brians356
January 14, 2016 12:12 pm

(Screw Anthony, it’s where I live ; )

January 13, 2016 3:48 pm


January 13, 2016 4:30 pm
January 13, 2016 10:11 pm

Once in the early 90’s I road a Motorcycle in the snow, fun times. I was taking a roommate to visit his girlfriend who lived in Scottsdale Arizona. Somewhere I have pictures of snow on the front lawn of the house I owned in Mesa.

January 13, 2016 10:30 pm

My parents complained that every time they had moved since they were married, it poured down rain on them as they moved (I can count six or seven moves).
The time they move to the Cresenta Valley — the last move they were to make, as it turns out, it did not rain,
It snowed. (The second time in my lifetime that it snowed where we lived.)

January 14, 2016 9:52 am

Thanks for that wonderful photo.

January 15, 2016 6:52 am

Southern California has gotten quite bit of weather lately, thanks to the changes in the jet stream track in this El Niño year.
Nice to know they are still getting weather in California. I would hate to think that they were no longer getting any weather. 🙂

January 16, 2016 11:39 am

Between Tehachapi and Bakersfield, I have seen snow on top of palm trees themselves. This was near State Rt 58, some years ago.

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