Author Russian Presidential Press and Information Office
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t DailyCaller – Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that he thinks the Western climate scare is a fraud, designed to restrain industrial development in countries like Russia.
According to the New York Times;
While Western media have examined the role of rising temperatures and drought in this year’s record wildfires in North America, Russian media continue to pay little attention to an issue that animates so much of the world.
The indifference reflects widespread public doubt that human activities play a significant role in global warming, a tone set by President Vladimir Putin, who has offered only vague and modest pledges of emissions cuts ahead of December’s U.N. climate summit in Paris.
Russia’s official view appears to have changed little since 2003, when Putin told an international climate conference that warmer temperatures would mean Russians “spend less on fur coats” while “agricultural specialists say our grain production will increase, and thank God for that”.
The president believes that “there is no global warming, that this is a fraud to restrain the industrial development of several countries including Russia,” says Stanislav Belkovsky, a political analyst and critic of Putin. “That is why this subject is not topical for the majority of the Russian mass media and society in general.”
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Putin’s scepticism dates from the early 2000s, when his staff “did very, very extensive work trying to understand all sides of the climate debate”, said Andrey Illarionov, Putin’s senior economic adviser at the time and now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington.
“We found that, while climate change does exist, it is cyclical, and the anthropogenic role is very limited,” he said. “It became clear that the climate is a complicated system and that, so far, the evidence presented for the need to ‘fight’ global warming was rather unfounded.”
Its difficult to know what impact Putin’s overt skepticism will have on the Paris climate meeting. The meeting is reportedly already in a lot of trouble, because even our economically illiterate leaders seem to be balking at the prospect of borrowing money from China, so they can gift the principle they just borrowed back to China as climate development assistance, then repay the loan back to China a second time, with interest.
To his credit Putin has no qualms about yanking the chain of climate obsessed Western Politicians. During the recent G20 conference in Australia, when asked why there was a fleet of Russian Warships just outside Australian territorial waters, the Russian embassy replied the ships were there to research “climate change”.
Will this be year that the ECO-TERRORISTS are finally defeated ??
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/29/rep-calls-on-noaa-to-come-clean-about-climate-study-info/?intcmp=hpbt3
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/30/taxpayer-backed-solar-plant-actually-carbon-polluter/?intcmp=hpbt3
That is nice that he said that but since he’s a nutbag it really isn’t very helpful.
The KGB School of Media does on occasion get it right. And who is better qualified to comment on large-scale policy and perception fraud that the star graduate of that KGB school?
I bet he would make a good presidential debate participant and nail the wacky moderators too.
At least some people still have pride in America !!!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4587347488001/viral-photo-captures-police-paying-respects-to-old-glory/?intcmp=hpvid1
So, Putin is playing the part of the little boy saying,
“the Emperor has no clothes!”
Who’d a thunk it?
If climate change is so dangerous , why does it barely get mentioned in the debates ?????
Easy answer… since most Republicans, especially Ted Cruz, can talk with clarity on the AGW scam the moderators want to avoid discussion of the topic because the science (as opposed to the propaganda) is NOT on the CAGW side. They do not want an actual discussion of the science on nationwide television. Cruz tried to bring it up in the first debate but the moderators quickly and decisively cut off discussion. Notice how the topic DOES come up in the Dem debates because all of them spout the Progressive CAGW line.
Because “the debate is over”. It always was, it never started. It was the only way the fraud could be established as “fact”.
Because “the debate is over”. It always was. It is the way the fraud can be established as perceived fact.
I really don’t buy into this thing that Putin is really any different than any other so-called world leader, but I did notice that he can talk without a teleprompter and that does say something about him; you know….. not so coached. On the other hand, some of the most passionate, intelligent, none-conformist minds that I’ve ever encountered are usually of Russian background. Still, Putin in the end is a form of government and with that, one must always be cautious.
Who really knows what Putin thinks about the CO2 hysteria…… who knows. Regardless, I personally don’t give a damn, because I believe its the surface of the earth that has more of an influence than this CO2 crap. The climate has changed alright- in the ever expanding cities, that where!!! Hot and dry, holding heat all night etc etc
anyways….
Easy answer: Much of Russia is at or near the Arctic Circle and sane people know that warmer is better. I feel sorry for Canada which is hammered every Ice Age, anyone tempted to cool down the planet should remember what happens next.
Russia Backs Kyoto to Get on Path to Join WTO
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, May 22, 2004; Page A15
MOSCOW, May 21 — Russia signaled Friday that it would ratify the Kyoto climate change treaty in exchange for European support for its bid to join the World Trade Organization, a breakthrough that could revive the long-stalled pact designed to curb global warming.
Russian and European Union officials reached a trade agreement that helps open the way to WTO membership for Russia, the largest country that remains outside the international group. President Vladimir Putin then recommitted to the Kyoto treaty after months of mixed signals, characterizing it as a tradeoff for the economic agreement.
“We are for the Kyoto process,” Putin said during a news conference after a summit with European leaders. “We support it, although we do have some concerns over the obligations that we will have to assume. The European Union has met us halfway in negotiations on the WTO, and it could not help but have a positive effect on our attitude toward ratification of the Kyoto protocol.”
The arrangement appeared to end an impasse that had long held up both Russia’s integration into the world economy and enactment of the plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. European countries have been eager to win Russia’s ratification of Kyoto, and they made significant concessions in the trade talks to obtain it.
Ever since the United States backed out of the Kyoto pact after President Bush took office in 2001, Russia has held the treaty’s fate in its hands. To take effect, the treaty requires ratification by countries producing at least 55 percent of the world’s greenhouse gases, and Russia, with its 17 percent share, was the only nation left that could put it over the top.
Putin promised last year to move toward ratification, but his top economics adviser, Andrei Illarionov, launched a vigorous public campaign against it, portraying Kyoto as “a death treaty” and “international Auschwitz” that would strangle the Russian economy just as it was growing again. Some analysts interpreted that as a sign that Russia would not ratify the treaty, but others said Putin used the conflicting signals to make Kyoto a bargaining chip for economic benefits.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46416-2004May21.html
I would never have believed that I would be more on board with an ex-KGB thug like Putin than my own President.
Leaders occasionally exhibit nice traits. The Fuehrer was a vegetarian.
Vegatarism a nice trait? Believing that is just as stupid as believing in CAGW. Humans are omnivores, duh!
The western leaders lied to you about AGW. Consider where that thug idea comes from.
For sure no government is above corruption – and I certainly don’t believe our current leaders have the western world’s best interests at heart. At best we are means to an end.
The first signs of being a fraud were especially such a short period they were originally based on and ignorance of many natural internal mechanisms.
1) Very short period of warming global temperatures. (Only 8 years after a little bit of warming, Hansen 1988)
2) Claiming all warming was due to humans since after the 1970’s at the time. (0.2c per decade)
3) Ignoring ocean mechanisms/cycles like the AMOC, AMO, PDO and ENSO etc.
4) Ignoring increases in worldwide sunshine hours and the decrease in albedo.
5) Claiming the sun has no affect on climate when the energy source is orders greater than anything else.
6) The CO2 positive feedback that CAGW relies on never been shown to exist.
7) The failure to show outgoing long wave radiation could warm the ocean, while being at orders smaller and could barely penetrate 1mm of the surface.
8) Ignorance of CO2 lags temperature at all time scales.
9) Ignorance of geological history showing much larger changes in global temperatures that had also occurred much quicker.
10) The failed acceptance/avoidance that the troposphere must warm first for the greenhouse effect to have any influence on the surface.
11) The ignorance of blaming almost every single weather event on humans, when there has been no way of distinguishing between what’s normal. Only the trends of events showing nothing have been unusual.
12) Trying to change history with bad science and removing inconvenient warmer periods like the MWP.
13) The Cherry picking of Arctic warming while ignoring Antarctica and ignoring ocean mechanisms that greatly affect sea ice in both. Failure to acknowledge global sea ice behaves in bi-polar seesaw and overall albedo from both more important in climate.
14) Increasing failure of models matching observed temperatures and greatly exaggerated assumption on aerosols affecting climate. Reasoning because of the ignorance of many internal mechanisms that can’t be replicated or incorrectly assumed.
Digging an even bigger hole.
15) Claiming the pause must be longer than 15 years, 17 years (changing goal posts), when longer than original warming in the first place and then trying to claim it didn’t even exist.
16) Failure to show global temperatures means anything with local climates much more important and behave differently.
17) Ignorance in warming showing benefits and only mainly occurred in cold regions, during night and in winter.
18) The claim of a consensus that doesn’t exist in science.
19) The exposure of intent from hacked e-mails known as Climategate.
20) Intimidation and hate on those with different views. Threatening these with fear of sack just because they don’t fully agree on their alarmist agenda.
21) Claiming huge funds for Skeptics were changing public views when they have wasted billions on the climate scare on a yearly basis.
22) The frequent adjusting of surface data once the planet failed to warm. Adjusting it the most during recent periods of most accuracy. The tampering of surface data increased from all involved the longer the pause went on.
23) The increasing dishonesty and ignorance of inconvenient data/observations.
Putin is right on this occasion and the planet has already shown that global warming from CO2 will never be at dangerous levels and this was falsified years ago. The biggest worry well into the future is if the CO2 levels become too low to support plant life. The original 0.2 c per decade needed to double or more for the scare to be a possibility, but it has greatly declined instead. The planet is behaving exactly as it should with ocean cycles changing during the warming and cooling natural cycle of around 30 and 40 years respectively. What affect CO2 has on climate has been shown to be indistinguishable from natural cycles.
Could we also request some statements on other aspects of policy fraud, like EPA as a competent authority on asthma and mining engineering, NOAA propaganda, NASA nonsense, and NSF-funded nonsense?
The greatest Russian poet Alexander Pushkin said:
“If you are bored and feel like listening to some inane hooey, just ask a foreigner what he thinks of Russia.”
Many of the commenters illustrate the point to perfection.
Said one command and control freak to another
So he also has a single payer health care system and a flat tax system. I’m sure he can drum up a Hawaiian birth certificate too.
Putin was born everywhere at once. 🙂
An ideal scenario at the Paris conference would be for the Russian representative to come down firmly against the AGW scam, and to make it clear that Russia will not take part in any bogus programme designed to mitigate a non-existent global warming danger. Russia should be made aware that they are far from being alone in their opposing view on AGW, and that it is more than likely that the sceptics across the World now considerably outnumber the believers, They and we only need the vocal support of China, and we’re home and dry!.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day…. no that isn’t the aphorism I was looking for….Hmmmm
Putin is a thinking, action oriented person motivated by the pain of watching the Soviet Union collapse. He is also ex KGB and is intelligent.
He is unscrupulous, ego maniacal, and psychopathic.
That does not make him wrong.
I suppose he can balance his bank account, appreciate a good steak, and otherwise perform normal functions with relative ease. So it is no surprise to me that he sees the CAGW scam as fraud. It is a fraud.
One observation…..I was under the impression that the CAGW scam was being driven by the socialists. Hmmm… It must be the home grown socialists with George Soros. Putin must not see this scam as one he can exploit. That to me is the most interesting facet of his willingness to say that CAGW is fraud..
Expatriot Russians are a wonderful resource against socialism. They’ve seen it and heard it all. I notice Putin’s ex economic advisor is now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute:
“Andrei Illarionov is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity. From 2000 to December 2005, he was the chief economic adviser of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Illarionov also served as the president’s personal representative in the G-8. He is one of Russia’s most forceful and articulate advocates of an open society and democratic capitalism, and has been a long-time friend of the Cato Institute.”
They should be a preferred group for immigration instead of opening the doors to socialists on the southern border and to Middle Easterners who hate western culture and its people.
Thanks for that. I will look into this. How did you notice the connection?
Gary Pearse : Immigrant Russians – one of Canada’s biggest resources along with Ukrainians, Italians and a host of others. Where I grew up in southern British Columbia, Russian and Italian were first languages for a lot of folks. Nowadays in may be Mandarin or (pick any language you like). We are a nation of immigrants including “First Nations”. They just immigrated to North America first.
Paul Westhaver,
“He is unscrupulous, ego maniacal, and psychopathic.”
I have begun to suspect the last is not true, reluctantly, and I now suspect he has a conscience, and at least some degree of affection for humans. I can’t be sure of course, but watching him interact with people in small groups and such, he does not give me the impression he is a true psychopath. If he’s not, he could be fighting “ours” for real, and that’s no small factor if true.
(My weakening impression is that he is playing the part of a real adversary, to facilitate the formal establishment of World Government . . )
Yes. At times it is hard to choose the lesser of two evils.
I am not a clinical psychiatrist so my diagnosis is worth anything, however, I’ll go with this one for now.
http://psychologydefinition.net/definition-of-psychopath/
That being said I see your point. The UN is my enemy. The UN is the enemy of Russia. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Reblogged this on The Arts Mechanical and commented:
It’s scary when sanity seem to come from Putin.
But Putin didn’t say “climate scare is fraud”. Those are the words of Eric Worrall (and very useful too I should add). Putin has said nothing recently that would make him a climate skeptic.
Russia has lagged in pledging emission reductions and similar commitments to environmentalism. So analysts (Stanislaw Belkovsky and Andrey Illarionov, in the post above) claim he is skeptic from their own research of Putin’s inner circle.
But when pressed for an explanation of the lagging pledges, Putin’s allies merely say “Better late, than never”.
Лучше поздно, чем никогда: Путин все-таки поверил в изменение климата
(“Better late than never: Putin never-the-less believed in climate change”)
Putin’s plan for addressing climate change (by reducing emissions) for this decade:
http://www.bellona.ru/weblog/1304681121.95
Revealing Putin’s skepticism (if indeed it is real) would be foolish, and risk alienating the liberal environmentalists (“useful idiots” as Stalin called his Western admirers).
I don’t think you’ll find any any true skeptics in today’s crop of world leaders. I think most of them don’t care about the scientific arguments, one way or another, as long as the “science” can be used to support their political and economic agendas.
That would also explain the disconnect between science summaries and policy communique for leaders at IPCC over time.
From the Reuters (N.B not the NYT) report.
Andrey Illarionov, Putin’s senior economic adviser at the time
Johanus,
“Putin has said nothing recently that would make him a climate skeptic.”
I really doubt there exists even a single climate skeptic in the world . . and I really wish those labeled such ridiculously absurd things would stop using the phrase (and many others) as though it made sense or applied . . It’s being downright foolish to speak in “official” shorthand, I implore, and an opportunity to present a more realist/rational self applied label.
In this war of words, speak wisely, please . . one and all.
PS . . I might say I’m a climate crisis skeptic, for instance.
Let’s see; it was just about at the time that the U.S. was on the verge of winning the Cold War with Russia that the scare of an approaching Ice Age was beginning to wane. Cold War? Ice Age? Coincidence? I think not.
Then, almost immediately following our hard fought victory in the Cold War, the scare of an approaching Global Warming Catastrophe began, now being followed (with the creepy – what the hell was Obama and Kerry thinking? – Iranian nuke deal) by Putin’s geostrategic advances, and his Iranian alliance, and the resultant possibility of a Hot War.
Hot War? Global Warming? Coincidence? …
Putin is smart and ruthless, to the point of dangerous.
But he is proud of his country and has the courage to fight for it.
That is something I can respect but it’s completely lacking in the USA leadership. This one simple factor (pride in country) explains all of the policy differences between Putin and Obama.
Another big difference is the courtroom style win-the-day policy tactics of the Dems versus determination and consistency of Putin. Nether side is really interested in facts, fact checking, or science as un-bendable truths. They just want their stuff for their backers.
Vladimir Putin plays Chess, Obama plays Golf, say no more . . .
“Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that he thinks the Western climate scare is a fraud, designed to restrain industrial development in countries like Russia.”
All I can say is, join the club!
We would be smart to agree with Putin on this sentiment
DD More
October 30, 2015 at 9:50 am
Sam, “Will become another corrupt quagmire of terrorist activities”
No, Putin knows when Assad falls, the Saudi / Qatar gas pipeline to Europe will be built and cut into Russia’s business.
Bamako is just screwing up running an unpaid mercenary outfit.
Not if Putin controls the route after Assad is gone and the Russians stay there. In addition, in the long game, Russia may provide support to the Shiite minority to create issues in Saudi and raise the price of oil. That should not be a surprise to anyone should that happen, especially since lower oil prices to hurt Russia was an American idea in the first place. Tit for Tat diplomacy and the law of unintended consequences.
The Russians and Chinese play a long game, not based on 4 year election cycles.
Indeed. Indeed. Indeed.
John
Now if he could just get NK, Cuba, Venezeula, and Iran to chime in to daisy chain the fraud-buster message on successive days to counter the daily climate fraud drum beat of the White House and its distracted agencies who stopped doing their day job responsibilities for this.
Putin obviously is paying attention to IPCC official statements, e.g. A clear distinction has to be made between the finance of development aid and the fiction of a man-made carbon dioxide caused global climate disaster, which in turn appears to be the opposite to what Flora – and therefore also all of Fauna including us – are known to require with nothing but beneficial effects
About time too! : In an interview published in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung on 14 November 2010, Ottmar Edenhofer, co-chair of IPCC Working Group III, said “The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War…. one must say clearly that de facto we redistribute the world’s wealth by climate policy…. One has to rid oneself of the illusion that international climate politics have anything to do with environmental concerns.”
When further prompted by Bernhard Pötter, the interviewer: „So far, when discussing foreign aid, people usually equate it with charity“, to which Edenhofer replied: „That will change immediately as soon as global emission rights are distributed. …“
Estimates of the carbon trading market were reported by Joanne Nova quoting Commissioner Bart Chilton, head of the energy and environmental markets advisory committee of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) with his prediction that “I can see carbon trading being a $2 trillion market,” which other quoted sources describe as “the largest commodity market in the world.”
Edenhofer continued: “…When that happens on a per capita basis, then Africa is the big winner, and large sums will flow there. This has enormous consequences for foreign aid policy. And, of course, the question arises whether these countries would at all be capable of using so much money wisely.”
Why politicians have dreamed up a ‘man-made climate disaster’ knowing well of this distinction is well recorded elsewhere and beyond this brief comment, but it’s quite understandable why developing nations resist now being cajoled by yet another financial jamboree to help finance that climate fairy-tale.
It’s time to remember Alexius Meinong, who put so: “Truth is a purely Human Construct, but Facts are Eternal.” My result of following this tenet is:
In the light of this: http://tinyurl.com/pvzva68
I calculated this: http://tinyurl.com/ot2hlp4
Resulting in this: http://tinyurl.com/naexuho
Why should I, or anyone, form a different opinion?
Very good. I help my friends’ daughter out with her Kumon (Maths) study and other homework. Last night she wanted to do her quizzes that her school suggests she does. It’s an ABC (Australia) website. One quiz was obviously biased against fossil fuels to the point of very obvious and provable error(s). I had to explain to her, as simply as I could, that carbon (C) was an element and carbon dioxide (CO2) was a molecule that plants (In the quiz it was only trees do this) use in photosynthesis. She’s a little young to fully grasp that concept, but the seed of the lie has been laid by scientifically ignorant types at the ABC. This is what kids are being taught here in Australia. I was disgusted.
I was also told by her that her “science teacher” told her that the sun revolves around the earth. I am not kidding!