NPR radio station WYPR gets an earful on climate change from an educated listener

Dr. Roger Stritmatter writes:

For your information, I pass on this letter, which has just been sent to Anthony Brandon, WYPR station manager.  If you think it is suitable, I would be glad to see it appear as a guest blog on Watt’s Up.  Thank you for being such an important part of my  education on this topic.

WYPR 88.1FM

2216 North Charles Street

Baltimore, Maryland 21218

Dear WYPR:

As a sometime contributor and frequent listener to public radio, I’ve got a gripe. Having put off many times writing this letter, and knowing from experience how almost impossible it is to effectively negotiate the gauntlet of your phone-in process to make a live comment,  I’m finally unable to keep silent any longer. Since some things that I am going to say may easily be twisted the wrong way by some, let me clarify something for the record: I’m writing this as a lifelong environmentalist and outdoorsman with a strong environmental ethic. Anyone who thinks to put me in another box is mistaken. My check from the petroleum industry never arrived, and I’m not an apologist for that dirty, violent, and hopefully moribund industry.

With that caveat, let me get to the point:  today’s story on Alexander Humboldt (1769-1859)  has finally put my patience to the test.  Yes, I appreciated a great deal about the story.  Like many, I did not know that much about Humboldt – who he was, what he discovered or knew, or what a first-rate thinker and role model he was.   I am grateful for the opportunity NPR stations provide content that can productively distract the thinking part of the American (and other) audience from the Donald show, with the rest of the crash cynical opportunists of the Church of the corporation Party of the holier rollers in big money.  I will not be voting for St. Fiorini, Dr. Carson, or the man with the expensive toupe and the big ugly mouth, even if I might seem in this letter to adopt a perspective more associated with the “right” than the “left.”   In fact I normally admire the way NPR covers controversial topics from a perspective of enlightened impartiality that strives to live up to journalistic standards of excellence, particularly when confronted with interviewees who say things like “this type of interview must end” simply because they lack the informed intelligence or the facts to convince anyone that what they happen to believe in is inevitable and sanctified by God.

There is only one issue I hear discussed on NPR that causes me to routinely turn off my radio because I have learned from experience that the coverage I am going to hear is more designed to scare me than to inform me.  Let me explain by way of a single example. In today’s coverage you assure your viewers that the differences observed in the flower and fauna patterns of two Ecuadorian mountains, comparing Humboldt’s  data to today’s, are the result of “global warming.”   Now it should be obvious that Humboldt’s data set, assuming it withstands today’s peer review standards (which it seems to me, without close study, it probably does), is a great gift to humanity from a gifted mind.  That is not the issue.

The unasked, but critical, question is whether those data are being used in a fully scientific way in the present.

I don’t think they are, at least in most discussions.

Let me explain why.

Anyone who has gained a position of authority on the topic of “global warming” within an organization of your type should know very well the history of the four major recent solar minima periods (from 1550 onwards), during which periods global temperatures definitely declined, often with catastrophic consequence, for extended years. There are other significant minima going backwards that are also relevant to this discussion, and surely we all know that if we go back far enough we will emerge on the far end of our current interglacial period and begin to ponder, little more than 12,000 years ago, a world with two miles of ice on top of what is today Manhattan.  So let’s be clear. We had nothing to do with the fact that there’s no ice on top of Manhattan in 2015.

Since then the planet has also experienced (among others) periods of intense warming, such as the Medieval Warm Period (MWP, c. 950-1250), when temperatures all over were even warmer than they became during the late 20th century (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/23/the-medieval-warm-period-in-the-arctic/). When one adds to this clear evidence for the coincidence between the flourishing of Minoan and Roman civilizations during earlier climate maxima of our interglacial era (http://www.dandebat.dk/eng-klima7.htm), it begins to become evident how poorly NPR, along with other media outlets, has really been about informing its listeners of the larger scientific context in which these issues deserved to be discussed.  It is true that the fact of the MWP, being a scandal to modern “climate scientists” such as Michael Mann or Kevin Trenberth, has come recent under attack as an inconvenient truth. But numerous studies have confirmed, and continue to document, its existence, duration, and worldwide character (http://joannenova.com.au/2012/07/medieval-warm-period-found-in-120-proxies-roman-era-similar-to-early-20th-century/), despite attempts of not-entirely-scrupulous revisionists to whitewash it out of history (http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-and-hidden-data/).

The particular cold snap we might wish consider in relation to Humboldt’s data set on mountain flora and fauna is the Dalton minimum (1796-1820). The previous minima were the Sporer (1460-1550) and — the deepest and most of all in recent memory — the Maunder (1645-1714).  All these downturns in global temperature, punctuating our otherwise balmy interglacial, correspond to known periods of human misery. When temperatures go down, disease, starvation, crime and warfare all go up.

The Dalton should interest us immediately because of the close overlap in timing with Humboldt’s life; the episode is usually dated to have begun when he was twenty years old and ended when he was 44.  According to the best information I can find, Humboldt’s data were recorded in 1802, six years into the minima.

This raises the distinct possibility that the alleged changes in the data set are not the result of “global warming” at all!

They seem just as likely, on the face of it, to be the result of the fact that Humboldt’s observations were made during a minima, and we are currently nearing the end (most likely) of a maxima.  No coverage of “global warming” that is not informed in this manner about the history of climate, and especially its relationship to human suffering or ease (it starts to become apparent that what we really should fear the most is not an increase, but an unanticipated decrease, in world temperatures) is worth your viewer’s time and attention. When temperatures fall, crops fail, starvation strikes, and disease increases. People die in large numbers.

The truth is that the theory and science of “global warming” is a far more ad hoc and subjectively determined affair than NPR ever lets on. Many “climate scientists” were raised on computer models, understand little else, and in the dearth of their own experience ask us to put a faith in them that their own history of inquiry calls into question if not disproving once and for all. Even if one has by now given up counting the number of times the IPPC projections of runaway warming induced by the extension of trends from the 1990s coupled with unwarranted assumptions of positive feedback were wild overestimates that have been securely and repeatedly falsified by the facts (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/25/trenberths-ipcc-claim-of-no-predictions-by-ipcc-at-all-refuted-by-ipccs-own-words/), it might be worth noticing that, by many of the best models, there has been no statistically significant increase in global warming for 18 years and counting now (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/04/the-pause-lengthens-yet-again/).

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This is called by some “the pause.”  Others, more plausibly in my estimation, call it the peak.

Now of course we all know that the western United States has been in terrible drought. I visited California, Oregon, and Washington this past summer and I’m very aware of the pain that is being inflicted in that region due to the current water shortage and attendant wildfires. If the proposed mechanisms by which Co2 emissions can produce changes in global climate were not in themselves open to so much legitimate doubt, one might be inclined to assume that such a mechanism is the obvious if not certain cause of the drought.

Unfortunately (or, depending on your point of view, fortunately….), there are other possible reasons for the problem.  One is natural cycles of western US drought and rain, which we know have varied heavily over the last thousands of years.  As one recent survey concludes, “A glance into the history of the Southwest reminds us that the climate and rainfall patterns have varied tremendously over time, with stretches of drought many decades longer than the one we are experiencing now” (http://origins.osu.edu/article/west-without-water-what-can-past-droughts-tell-us-about-tomorrow ).

Another clear contributing factor to the current California drought, as verified by NOAA (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/08/noaa-researchers-offer-new-insights-into-predicting-future-droughts-in-california/),  is cyclical patterns of Pacific cooling and warming that function, so far as anyone knows, entirely independently of human activity, known as ENSO or El Nino Southern Oscillation.

A third possible variable, although under-studied from what I can tell, is desertification set in motion by chronic greedy over-logging of native timber, a process that seems to have very possibly altered the regional climates of the western United States, since trees store and release large amounts of water, and in the case of Redwoods depend upon, and probably help to create cycles of through their respiration, fog for a significant part of their own water supply. Such biotic processes, by which plants help create the conditions for other life by creating cycles of water flow that cannot exist without them, are well documented in other cases (see, for example, http://www.betterglobe.com/published.aspx/Public/PlantingTrees?aid; for  a more critical view of what plants by themselves can accomplish, and suggestion that animals and plants together can modify climates to increase habitability and biomass, http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/seeing-drylands-trees-42998).

A recent spate of studies reports that a decline in California coastal fog now threatens the surviving Redwood populations of the state. These studies usually say that “global warming” it the cause of this decline. But desertification from over-logging, combined with the ENSO, seems like a more probable culprit. One recent study covered in Wired magazine (http://www.wired.com/2010/02/fog-decrease-threatens-coastal-redwoods/) reports that since the early 1900’s the California “temperature difference between inland and coast went down, mainly because the coast was heating up even faster than inland. That reduced the force to pull fog ashore.”  But what would have caused coastal temperatures to rise faster than inland ones?  Surely not “global warming,” which by definition cannot in itself cause differential warming patterns of this kind. The most likely answer should be obvious: logging off large tracts of the coast forests that cooled these coasts when they were still the homeland of Native Americans, before the great “log off” of the 19th and 20th centuries.

If deforestation is the cause, or, as is more likely, along with ENSO or other natural cycles, part of the cause, of the present drought (as was suggested to me this summer by a northern California colleague) then public resources should be allocated to reforestation, not into policies guided by the assumption that an excess of atmospheric Co2 can be blamed for the problem.  Certainly it is a proven fact in other regions that reforestation can make significant contribution to pushing back deserts and creating local microclimates that support life by creating or enhancing water flows through local systems.

Such natural cycles are important to understand, if we hope to understand our own potential to disrupt them.  That warming increases global atmospheric Co2 through known mechanisms is one of the most basic features of the natural system that we have allegedly disrupted. But if warming causes increased Co2, what causes the warming to begin with?  In focusing on Co2 as the independent variable in the equation, today’s “scientists” would appear to have badly misconstrued the nature of our predicament.

My own evolution from “true believer” to global warming skeptic (please stop calling us “deniers”) started when I became aware that Al Gore, in his Inconvenient Truth, misrepresented the character of the relationship between Co2 and warming signals in the geologic record.  Co2 is not the causal factor; in the record, temperatures start to rise or fall several hundred years before Co2 follows them in either rise or decline. This is not rocket science. We know why it happens.  When temperatures rise, our oceans outgas Co2, just like a Coke bottle does when you remove it from the refrigerator.

Look, I have no doubt that humanity is capable of seriously disrupting natural systems. What we are doing in polluting our oceans with plastic right now is a good example. Our bees, and with them the entire history of flowered plants and therefore our own agricultural systems, are at great risk now from our corporate-industrial-agricultural practices, which have bred them to become dependent on artificial subsidies of antibiotics on the one hand, and threatened them with pesticide poisoning on the other. Our remaining rainforests are being logged at a precipitous rate, threatening the “lungs” of our planet.  If we are not careful, and the nations of the world do not cooperate, we will add to these threats the irreversible overfishing of critical ocean species on which we now depend for food. To my way of thinking, it is shameful when poor science about “global warming” is allowed to dominate our public radio stations instead of programming that could help us to solve these and other real problems as well as contribute to a more scientifically robust debate about climate.  NPR needs a higher standard of professionalism, one smart enough to know that there really is a vigorous and valid scientific debate about anthropogenic global warming, contrary to what Mr. Gore assured us at the same time he was misrepresenting the science.

A better science advisor than Mr. Gore (for whom I voted in two presidential elections) is the pseudonymous commentator Lone Pine, at topicx.com, who in a discussion convened — appropriately enough – in the Humboldt County forum on the topic, “What role do you think humans play in Global Warming?” (http://www.topix.com/forum/county/humboldt-ca/TK8OFVLNETQS2HSGA/p200) recently wrote:

Even small changes in the sun’s output are going to have profound influence on weather and crops on Earth, and on the advancement or retreat of glaciers, forests and deserts – perhaps even on trade, architecture, war, human population and the spread of disease.    A resting sun – the current downturn is being called a “solar lull”– should be of far greater concern than the chance (and it is only just a chance) that idling SUVs and flatulating cows will alter the atmosphere and, indirectly, increase the frequency and intensity of severe weather.

When we last witnessed a solar lull of similar magnitude [compared to that we are now entering] (in the early decades of the 19th century), our planet had just finished a warming period not unlike that of the 20th century. The onset of what was known as the Dalton Minimum meant harsh, harsh winters in North America, Europe and Russia, along with some intense droughts and famines.

Some have even compared the slow cycles we are currently entering to the granddaddy of all solar lulls, the 17th century Maunder Minimum during which average Northern Hemispheric temperatures were nearly 2C below where they are now.

It seems unlikely temperatures will get as cold now as they did then, or for as long. In addition to greatly reduced solar activity, the 17th century also had more intense volcanic activity than any century since and more than any century dating back 1,000 years before it.

During the 1600s when the sun was weaker, there were also six “climatically significant eruptions” that expelled enough ash and particles to cause lower temps worldwide for a year or more – perhaps even for a decade in some cases.

Politicians and activists need to stop obsessing on manmade climate change and focus on what to do about three decades of COLD.

NPR listeners deserve a less emotional, less alarmist, and more scientifically nuanced discussion of the relationship between climate and human activity, one that starts from acknowledging the existence of very great and still poorly understood patterns of natural variation as well as admitting that numerous unresolved questions of scientific merit are raised by the dependence of “climate science” on assumption, unknown variables, and sometimes highly dubious methodologies.  When you report that the difference between Humboldt’s data and today’s is a result of “global warming,” without even mentioning the distinct possibility that there is another cause for it, you are cheating your audience of something you should be defending: the right to consider real alternatives about how both science and politics might operate.  I admit, when you look at the Donald Show, it is easy to think that those on one side of this question are the angels and those on the other side are crass opportunists taking handouts from the oil industry to support bad science. Sorry, it’s not so.   Above all, we need a discussion that also contemplates the distinct possibility, now supported as likely by an actively growing number of informed scientific observers, that the real risk to the future we want for our children and grandchildren is not warming, but serious, widespread, and potentially disruptive cooling.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely Yours,

Roger Stritmatter, PhD

Professor of Humanities

Coppin State University

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September 22, 2015 6:19 am

Here is a list of those ‘left wing radicals’ supporting action on Climate Change:
The US Dept of Defense. Every Science Academy and Scientific Professional Society in the World (197 of them). NASA. NOAA. All Major Universities. 99.9% of Peer-reviewed Research Papers. 97% of Climate Scientists actively engaged in research.
Republicans:
George P Schultz, Hank Paulson, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, Bob Inglis (President of Energy and Enterprise Org), Eli Lehrer (President of Free Enterprise R Street Org), Jerry Taylor (President of the Niskanen Institute), Steve LaTourette, Mike Castle, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Olympia Snow, Sherwood Boehlert, Chris Collins, Mike Kirk, Bob Corker, Mike Bloomberg, Katherine Hayhoe (evangelical Christian and Climate Scientist)
According to a Yale Study, 52% of Republicans nationwide.
ConservAmerica.org. CitizensClimateLobby.Org, The US Episcopal Church. The Catholic Church. Republicen.Org.
Nearly all world leaders.
There must be some Commies in there somewhere. Lord Monckton, can you help me find them?

Reply to  warrenlb
September 22, 2015 11:34 am

warrenlb says:
…supporting action on Climate Change
What a wonderful phrase! It could mean anything at all.
Inform us, warrenlb: exactly what “action on climate change” should everyone support?
First, you have to define “climate change”, which you never quantify. Ever. What is ‘climate change’? The climate always changes, and current observations are no different from past observations of climate changes.
Then, what ‘action’ should be taken? Be specific.
Next, if your proposed ‘action’ is taken, what is the cost/benefit analysis? How many $billions will it cost to lower global T by 0.000001ºC? Be specific.
Next, explain why a rise of a degree or two in global T is bad, versus a degree or two lower global T? Or, is your belief that global T must remain exactly where it is, with no fluctuation either up or down, ever?
What, no answers? You don’t know? After more than fifty years of scientific investigation, and more than one hundred billion dollars spent looking for the causes of ‘climate change’, you still don’t have answers?
The complete absence of any measurements of AGW do not matter to folks like you. Your eco-religion requires that taxpayers must pay whatever it costs to satisfy you. That’s about it, isn’t it? You have no measurable quantity of AGW, but you demand that society must pay immense piles of money to ‘fix’ a problem that you cannot even quantify?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? You don’t care about facts, evidence, measurements, science, or anything quantifiable. All you care about is your True Belief, no matter how nuts you sound. Basically, you demand that society must pay money — a LOT of money — for something that you assert exists, but which you cannot even measure?
So here’s your chance to explain yourself, warrenlb. You always ask questions, incessantly, but you never answer any. Give it a try for a change. Answer each sentence above that ends with a question mark. If you can. Otherwise, you’re no different from a Jehovah’s Witness, handing out Scripture tracts on a downtown street corner.

Marcus
Reply to  dbstealey
September 22, 2015 7:25 pm

You are absolutely correct, it has become a cult with the belief that the end justifies the means…NO MATTER WHO SUFFERS !!!!

Marcus
Reply to  dbstealey
September 22, 2015 7:27 pm

P.S. As long as its not them suffering !!!

Butch
Reply to  dbstealey
September 25, 2015 4:39 am

At least this response recognizes the concept of Return on Investment. That is more than this current administration can say.
Arguing whether there is global warming and whether it is caused by man’s impact on the climate must be very entertaining. It must be entertaining because it obscures the 800 pound gorilla sitting next to the folks engaged in the discussion. This gorilla keeps saying (to apparently deaf ears) that neither the Liberals, nor anyone else, have any practical solutions for reducing CO2 levels that are not hugely expensive in terms of choking regulations, high fees and taxes, and negative economic impact, and yet have near-zero impact on reducing greenhouse gas levels.
Take Obama’s latest attack on the coal industry in the US as an example. If you run through the math, it shows that the proposed regulations will result in, at best, a couple of percent reduction in worldwide greenhouse gases. And the likelihood of even this occurring is low. And the Chinese, and other developing nations, will make that up in a few short years. They have essentially told us to pound sand on any reductions, at least for the next 15 or so years.
Don’t believe me? (Please note that it is difficult to get exact numbers on certain factors, but even if my numbers of off some, the general conclusion still holds.) If the US produces about 15% of the worldwide greenhouse gases, and if coal produces about one third of these gases, then US coal produces about 5% of the worldwide greenhouse gases. Obama’s proposed regulations would reduce these emissions by about one third, resulting in a whopping reduction of worldwide greenhouse gases of between 1% and 2%. Yet the cost would be huge in terms of job loss, much higher electricity costs, and thwarted economic gains. In short, the Return on Investment would be near-zero.
This same sort of analysis can be applied to almost all of the so-called clean energy initiatives. Worse, many are not economically feasible without huge subsidies which are added to our energy bills, or are added to our national debt, to be paid off by our grandchildren. When Obama took office, wind and solar supplied around 2% if the nation’s energy. Even with the huge subsidies poured into these areas for the past 7 years, they still produce less than 4%! What about the other 96%!!!!!!
But you say we have got to do something, right? Wrong?! Not if the ROI is absurdly low. If the problem is so bad as the Liberals say, then our first task would be to come up with some practical solutions. I have yet to see any!!!

KaiserDerden
September 22, 2015 8:11 am

the man is a troll … he holds clear headed thoughts about science and fuzzy headed thoughts about politics … no way one person can hold both unless he is insane …

JohnKnight
Reply to  KaiserDerden
September 24, 2015 8:06 pm

Or “cointelpro”. If anyone here thinks there are not “operatives” lurking on every thread, I suggest you think again.

Ryan S.
September 22, 2015 9:02 am

Quote, “….hopefully moribund industry.”
You actually hope the industry that heats, clothes and feeds the world dies?
What a strange position to take.
Oh, an academic; I see.

September 22, 2015 9:20 am

Demonstration CO2 has no effect on climate and identification of the two factors that do cause reported average global temperature change (sunspot number is the only independent variable) are at http://agwunveiled.blogspot.com (now with 5-year running-average smoothing of measured average global temperature (AGT), the near-perfect explanation of AGT since before 1900; R^2 = 0.97+).

September 22, 2015 11:30 am

NPR has an obvious agenda wrt AGW and other issues. This letter goes into the “Denier” file, the one that gets dumped every night. Meanwhile, they have the children for hours every day, filling their minds with scientific sounding, government approved nonsense about CO2. I wonder what the average age is for WUWT’ers. My average age is 70. While someone may be able to change the thinking of someone else here and there, an entire generation is being raised up tragically misinformed.

milwaukeebob
September 22, 2015 2:50 pm

After tediously reading the letter AND taking into consideration all of the above highly thoughtful comments, I decided to rewrite the letter in Executive Summary form:
WYPR 88.1FM
2216 North Charles Street
Baltimore, Maryland 21218
Dear WYPR:
RE: Today’s story on Alexander Humboldt; It’s not CO2, stupid!
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely Yours,
Roger Stritmatter, PhD
Professor of Humanities
Coppin State University

Marcus
Reply to  milwaukeebob
September 22, 2015 7:34 pm

. . Works for me !! LOL

Reply to  milwaukeebob
September 23, 2015 10:35 am

The “Donald show” (if that means Trump) is not even half as self absorbed as that diatribe… Heaven (literally) help us, please. Although the writer comes up with a different conclusion than the AGW folks, he seems to emulate their head-up-derriere approach quite well.
I’d like to ask, half rhetorically and half seriously: what keeps science HONEST? Apparently it can’t be just scientists because they will apparently form into groups, all lying and posturing to one another.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Daniel Levy
September 23, 2015 6:35 pm

Well, Daniel, as far as I can tell, the same thing that keeps anything else “honest” to whatever extent it is; A few people with real integrity.

JohnKnight
September 23, 2015 7:25 pm

I feel many here are being somewhat naive in there criticisms of this “letter”, in that it seems obvious to me that it was not intended to be “like” what is more commonly appears on this site, but is/was an attempt to somehow get a cohesive overview of what has happened in this realm, into the eyeballs of people who have not yet become aware of the extent and depth of (to me) blatant distortion and deception that has been pumped into society through the mass media systems.
And, it seems clear to me, that it is geared to “ease” the target reader (which is not NPR executives or whatever) into the matter slowly and gently (and yes wordily ; ) . . kinda like NPR approaches most anything. Looking at it from an “old hand’s” perspective is just not appropriate, I feel.
And surely most here are aware of difficulty of getting such a general overview into the eyes of busy professionals and academics and the like, who are unfamiliar with “climate science” themselves, and have essentially trusted the establishment “experts” to tell them what is happening. I notice virtually no one is critical of the “story” the author tells, or the examples and explanations he provides, which if I were he, I would see as the “positive feedback” in the realm which many here are well informed about.
I hope it gets through the gatekeepers at NPR (though I doubt it), and I hope he has sent/will send this to many publications/outlets (appropriately modified), in hope that it gets to some of those target eyeballs, and into the minds which “need” to drop their trust in the “official” presenters and masters of the “short and to the point” BS arts, against whom no “short and to the point” approach has a snowball’s chance in hell, it seems to me, of getting past even the standard “He’s not a climate scientist” first hurdle, we all know it will confront.
(As for the opening “salvo” . . When in Rome, I say.)

John W. Garrett
September 27, 2015 12:20 pm

Wow !!
That is a wonderful and long overdue letter.

John W. Garrett
September 29, 2015 5:45 am

That is a wonderful letter.
Like Dr. Stritmatter, I am involuntarily subjected to incessant daily bombardment by WYPR’s (and, thus, NPR’s) wholly biased climate propaganda broadcasting operation.
Almost needless to say, as a result, they have forfeited the financial contributions I used to make.
In this subject area, WYPR (and NPR) are an embarrassment to the notion of fair, even-handed journalism.