Dr. Roger Stritmatter writes:
For your information, I pass on this letter, which has just been sent to Anthony Brandon, WYPR station manager. If you think it is suitable, I would be glad to see it appear as a guest blog on Watt’s Up. Thank you for being such an important part of my education on this topic.
WYPR 88.1FM
2216 North Charles Street
Baltimore, Maryland 21218
Dear WYPR:
As a sometime contributor and frequent listener to public radio, I’ve got a gripe. Having put off many times writing this letter, and knowing from experience how almost impossible it is to effectively negotiate the gauntlet of your phone-in process to make a live comment, I’m finally unable to keep silent any longer. Since some things that I am going to say may easily be twisted the wrong way by some, let me clarify something for the record: I’m writing this as a lifelong environmentalist and outdoorsman with a strong environmental ethic. Anyone who thinks to put me in another box is mistaken. My check from the petroleum industry never arrived, and I’m not an apologist for that dirty, violent, and hopefully moribund industry.
With that caveat, let me get to the point: today’s story on Alexander Humboldt (1769-1859) has finally put my patience to the test. Yes, I appreciated a great deal about the story. Like many, I did not know that much about Humboldt – who he was, what he discovered or knew, or what a first-rate thinker and role model he was. I am grateful for the opportunity NPR stations provide content that can productively distract the thinking part of the American (and other) audience from the Donald show, with the rest of the crash cynical opportunists of the Church of the corporation Party of the holier rollers in big money. I will not be voting for St. Fiorini, Dr. Carson, or the man with the expensive toupe and the big ugly mouth, even if I might seem in this letter to adopt a perspective more associated with the “right” than the “left.” In fact I normally admire the way NPR covers controversial topics from a perspective of enlightened impartiality that strives to live up to journalistic standards of excellence, particularly when confronted with interviewees who say things like “this type of interview must end” simply because they lack the informed intelligence or the facts to convince anyone that what they happen to believe in is inevitable and sanctified by God.
There is only one issue I hear discussed on NPR that causes me to routinely turn off my radio because I have learned from experience that the coverage I am going to hear is more designed to scare me than to inform me. Let me explain by way of a single example. In today’s coverage you assure your viewers that the differences observed in the flower and fauna patterns of two Ecuadorian mountains, comparing Humboldt’s data to today’s, are the result of “global warming.” Now it should be obvious that Humboldt’s data set, assuming it withstands today’s peer review standards (which it seems to me, without close study, it probably does), is a great gift to humanity from a gifted mind. That is not the issue.
The unasked, but critical, question is whether those data are being used in a fully scientific way in the present.
I don’t think they are, at least in most discussions.
Let me explain why.
Anyone who has gained a position of authority on the topic of “global warming” within an organization of your type should know very well the history of the four major recent solar minima periods (from 1550 onwards), during which periods global temperatures definitely declined, often with catastrophic consequence, for extended years. There are other significant minima going backwards that are also relevant to this discussion, and surely we all know that if we go back far enough we will emerge on the far end of our current interglacial period and begin to ponder, little more than 12,000 years ago, a world with two miles of ice on top of what is today Manhattan. So let’s be clear. We had nothing to do with the fact that there’s no ice on top of Manhattan in 2015.
Since then the planet has also experienced (among others) periods of intense warming, such as the Medieval Warm Period (MWP, c. 950-1250), when temperatures all over were even warmer than they became during the late 20th century (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/23/the-medieval-warm-period-in-the-arctic/). When one adds to this clear evidence for the coincidence between the flourishing of Minoan and Roman civilizations during earlier climate maxima of our interglacial era (http://www.dandebat.dk/eng-klima7.htm), it begins to become evident how poorly NPR, along with other media outlets, has really been about informing its listeners of the larger scientific context in which these issues deserved to be discussed. It is true that the fact of the MWP, being a scandal to modern “climate scientists” such as Michael Mann or Kevin Trenberth, has come recent under attack as an inconvenient truth. But numerous studies have confirmed, and continue to document, its existence, duration, and worldwide character (http://joannenova.com.au/2012/07/medieval-warm-period-found-in-120-proxies-roman-era-similar-to-early-20th-century/), despite attempts of not-entirely-scrupulous revisionists to whitewash it out of history (http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-and-hidden-data/).
The particular cold snap we might wish consider in relation to Humboldt’s data set on mountain flora and fauna is the Dalton minimum (1796-1820). The previous minima were the Sporer (1460-1550) and — the deepest and most of all in recent memory — the Maunder (1645-1714). All these downturns in global temperature, punctuating our otherwise balmy interglacial, correspond to known periods of human misery. When temperatures go down, disease, starvation, crime and warfare all go up.
The Dalton should interest us immediately because of the close overlap in timing with Humboldt’s life; the episode is usually dated to have begun when he was twenty years old and ended when he was 44. According to the best information I can find, Humboldt’s data were recorded in 1802, six years into the minima.
This raises the distinct possibility that the alleged changes in the data set are not the result of “global warming” at all!
They seem just as likely, on the face of it, to be the result of the fact that Humboldt’s observations were made during a minima, and we are currently nearing the end (most likely) of a maxima. No coverage of “global warming” that is not informed in this manner about the history of climate, and especially its relationship to human suffering or ease (it starts to become apparent that what we really should fear the most is not an increase, but an unanticipated decrease, in world temperatures) is worth your viewer’s time and attention. When temperatures fall, crops fail, starvation strikes, and disease increases. People die in large numbers.
The truth is that the theory and science of “global warming” is a far more ad hoc and subjectively determined affair than NPR ever lets on. Many “climate scientists” were raised on computer models, understand little else, and in the dearth of their own experience ask us to put a faith in them that their own history of inquiry calls into question if not disproving once and for all. Even if one has by now given up counting the number of times the IPPC projections of runaway warming induced by the extension of trends from the 1990s coupled with unwarranted assumptions of positive feedback were wild overestimates that have been securely and repeatedly falsified by the facts (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/25/trenberths-ipcc-claim-of-no-predictions-by-ipcc-at-all-refuted-by-ipccs-own-words/), it might be worth noticing that, by many of the best models, there has been no statistically significant increase in global warming for 18 years and counting now (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/04/the-pause-lengthens-yet-again/).
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This is called by some “the pause.” Others, more plausibly in my estimation, call it the peak.
Now of course we all know that the western United States has been in terrible drought. I visited California, Oregon, and Washington this past summer and I’m very aware of the pain that is being inflicted in that region due to the current water shortage and attendant wildfires. If the proposed mechanisms by which Co2 emissions can produce changes in global climate were not in themselves open to so much legitimate doubt, one might be inclined to assume that such a mechanism is the obvious if not certain cause of the drought.
Unfortunately (or, depending on your point of view, fortunately….), there are other possible reasons for the problem. One is natural cycles of western US drought and rain, which we know have varied heavily over the last thousands of years. As one recent survey concludes, “A glance into the history of the Southwest reminds us that the climate and rainfall patterns have varied tremendously over time, with stretches of drought many decades longer than the one we are experiencing now” (http://origins.osu.edu/article/west-without-water-what-can-past-droughts-tell-us-about-tomorrow ).
Another clear contributing factor to the current California drought, as verified by NOAA (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/08/noaa-researchers-offer-new-insights-into-predicting-future-droughts-in-california/), is cyclical patterns of Pacific cooling and warming that function, so far as anyone knows, entirely independently of human activity, known as ENSO or El Nino Southern Oscillation.
A third possible variable, although under-studied from what I can tell, is desertification set in motion by chronic greedy over-logging of native timber, a process that seems to have very possibly altered the regional climates of the western United States, since trees store and release large amounts of water, and in the case of Redwoods depend upon, and probably help to create cycles of through their respiration, fog for a significant part of their own water supply. Such biotic processes, by which plants help create the conditions for other life by creating cycles of water flow that cannot exist without them, are well documented in other cases (see, for example, http://www.betterglobe.com/published.aspx/Public/PlantingTrees?aid; for a more critical view of what plants by themselves can accomplish, and suggestion that animals and plants together can modify climates to increase habitability and biomass, http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/seeing-drylands-trees-42998).
A recent spate of studies reports that a decline in California coastal fog now threatens the surviving Redwood populations of the state. These studies usually say that “global warming” it the cause of this decline. But desertification from over-logging, combined with the ENSO, seems like a more probable culprit. One recent study covered in Wired magazine (http://www.wired.com/2010/02/fog-decrease-threatens-coastal-redwoods/) reports that since the early 1900’s the California “temperature difference between inland and coast went down, mainly because the coast was heating up even faster than inland. That reduced the force to pull fog ashore.” But what would have caused coastal temperatures to rise faster than inland ones? Surely not “global warming,” which by definition cannot in itself cause differential warming patterns of this kind. The most likely answer should be obvious: logging off large tracts of the coast forests that cooled these coasts when they were still the homeland of Native Americans, before the great “log off” of the 19th and 20th centuries.
If deforestation is the cause, or, as is more likely, along with ENSO or other natural cycles, part of the cause, of the present drought (as was suggested to me this summer by a northern California colleague) then public resources should be allocated to reforestation, not into policies guided by the assumption that an excess of atmospheric Co2 can be blamed for the problem. Certainly it is a proven fact in other regions that reforestation can make significant contribution to pushing back deserts and creating local microclimates that support life by creating or enhancing water flows through local systems.
Such natural cycles are important to understand, if we hope to understand our own potential to disrupt them. That warming increases global atmospheric Co2 through known mechanisms is one of the most basic features of the natural system that we have allegedly disrupted. But if warming causes increased Co2, what causes the warming to begin with? In focusing on Co2 as the independent variable in the equation, today’s “scientists” would appear to have badly misconstrued the nature of our predicament.
My own evolution from “true believer” to global warming skeptic (please stop calling us “deniers”) started when I became aware that Al Gore, in his Inconvenient Truth, misrepresented the character of the relationship between Co2 and warming signals in the geologic record. Co2 is not the causal factor; in the record, temperatures start to rise or fall several hundred years before Co2 follows them in either rise or decline. This is not rocket science. We know why it happens. When temperatures rise, our oceans outgas Co2, just like a Coke bottle does when you remove it from the refrigerator.
Look, I have no doubt that humanity is capable of seriously disrupting natural systems. What we are doing in polluting our oceans with plastic right now is a good example. Our bees, and with them the entire history of flowered plants and therefore our own agricultural systems, are at great risk now from our corporate-industrial-agricultural practices, which have bred them to become dependent on artificial subsidies of antibiotics on the one hand, and threatened them with pesticide poisoning on the other. Our remaining rainforests are being logged at a precipitous rate, threatening the “lungs” of our planet. If we are not careful, and the nations of the world do not cooperate, we will add to these threats the irreversible overfishing of critical ocean species on which we now depend for food. To my way of thinking, it is shameful when poor science about “global warming” is allowed to dominate our public radio stations instead of programming that could help us to solve these and other real problems as well as contribute to a more scientifically robust debate about climate. NPR needs a higher standard of professionalism, one smart enough to know that there really is a vigorous and valid scientific debate about anthropogenic global warming, contrary to what Mr. Gore assured us at the same time he was misrepresenting the science.
A better science advisor than Mr. Gore (for whom I voted in two presidential elections) is the pseudonymous commentator Lone Pine, at topicx.com, who in a discussion convened — appropriately enough – in the Humboldt County forum on the topic, “What role do you think humans play in Global Warming?” (http://www.topix.com/forum/county/humboldt-ca/TK8OFVLNETQS2HSGA/p200) recently wrote:
Even small changes in the sun’s output are going to have profound influence on weather and crops on Earth, and on the advancement or retreat of glaciers, forests and deserts – perhaps even on trade, architecture, war, human population and the spread of disease. A resting sun – the current downturn is being called a “solar lull”– should be of far greater concern than the chance (and it is only just a chance) that idling SUVs and flatulating cows will alter the atmosphere and, indirectly, increase the frequency and intensity of severe weather.
When we last witnessed a solar lull of similar magnitude [compared to that we are now entering] (in the early decades of the 19th century), our planet had just finished a warming period not unlike that of the 20th century. The onset of what was known as the Dalton Minimum meant harsh, harsh winters in North America, Europe and Russia, along with some intense droughts and famines.
Some have even compared the slow cycles we are currently entering to the granddaddy of all solar lulls, the 17th century Maunder Minimum during which average Northern Hemispheric temperatures were nearly 2C below where they are now.
It seems unlikely temperatures will get as cold now as they did then, or for as long. In addition to greatly reduced solar activity, the 17th century also had more intense volcanic activity than any century since and more than any century dating back 1,000 years before it.
During the 1600s when the sun was weaker, there were also six “climatically significant eruptions” that expelled enough ash and particles to cause lower temps worldwide for a year or more – perhaps even for a decade in some cases.
Politicians and activists need to stop obsessing on manmade climate change and focus on what to do about three decades of COLD.
NPR listeners deserve a less emotional, less alarmist, and more scientifically nuanced discussion of the relationship between climate and human activity, one that starts from acknowledging the existence of very great and still poorly understood patterns of natural variation as well as admitting that numerous unresolved questions of scientific merit are raised by the dependence of “climate science” on assumption, unknown variables, and sometimes highly dubious methodologies. When you report that the difference between Humboldt’s data and today’s is a result of “global warming,” without even mentioning the distinct possibility that there is another cause for it, you are cheating your audience of something you should be defending: the right to consider real alternatives about how both science and politics might operate. I admit, when you look at the Donald Show, it is easy to think that those on one side of this question are the angels and those on the other side are crass opportunists taking handouts from the oil industry to support bad science. Sorry, it’s not so. Above all, we need a discussion that also contemplates the distinct possibility, now supported as likely by an actively growing number of informed scientific observers, that the real risk to the future we want for our children and grandchildren is not warming, but serious, widespread, and potentially disruptive cooling.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely Yours,
Roger Stritmatter, PhD
Professor of Humanities
Coppin State University
It really is sad how desperate the true believers are to find something to validate their insane biases.
Sponsoring a meeting proves that the other side are crass opportunists taking handouts from the oil industry????
Truly pathetic.
Very well put Dr. Stritmatter !!! So sorry about your upcoming job loss, as the Eco-Terrorists on the left will surely attack you for thinking rationally !! Perhaps you should invest in a hard hat , as it is going to rough and dirty for you very soon !!!! As to my opinion on this matter, when the climate STOPS changing , then we should be worried !!!!
” Get rough !! “
Professor Stritmatter, an excellent letter, that also transcends the view that politics should influence science.
“I’m not an apologist for that dirty, violent, and hopefully moribund industry”
I almost stopped reading right there. But, I read the rest and it was OK. I have worked in the petroleum industry for 41 years and I can assure you that it is not violent and it certainly is not moribund. It employs over nine million people in the US and the jobs pay very well. It supports more than one trillion dollars of economic activity in the US. The EIA estimates that over half of the world’s energy will come from the petroleum industry in 2040, this is higher than today. As for dirty, it can be out in the field, just as it is in mining or construction. But, we have an excellent environmental record and work hard to clean up after the work is done. We have spent $253B since 1990 on the environment and considering we are now the largest producer in the world, our environmental performance has been excellent. When one considers how much cleaner our air, water and land is today versus in the 1960’s and how much safer we are, the improvements are clear.
You will hear endlessly about 6 or 7 accidents due to poor well construction in Wyoming, Oklahoma, Texas and Pennsylvania. But you don’t hear about the other 1.2 million wells that were drilled and completed without incident. There are more problems in the wind industry than that and it supplies a miniscule amount of energy compared to oil and gas.
These sorts of unfounded and unsupportable claims, from people who do not know the business, are not helpful. Please educate yourself on this topic as you have on climate change. Oil and gas will play a very important part in your future and the future of the US.
Oh No! you are paid by those dirty oil people so your opinion doesn’t matter. (Said every CAGW believer out there when they read your post.)
The energy and minerals businesses have done more to enhance our understanding of geology and the history of the planet than all other fields of study combined. Some people just need to get a grip on reality and get over themselves.
Any company that makes a profit is evil, according the left.
🙂 People forget two things about capitalism and corporate profits. First, the alternative to capitalism is war and stealing. There are only two ways to make money, steal it via war or taxes; or make things and sell them. Second, all of the money made in the world is by producing and selling things, almost always a private company does this. Countries tax those profits and profits are used to pay employees and shareholders, who are taxed and give money to non-profits. So saying profits are evil is foolish, when the alternative is a Mad Max society. I despair at the ignorance of the envy driven left.
Dr. Sowell had a good article a few years back, (I wish I could remember the title) in which he pointed out that despite the claims of the socialists, capitalism requires people to co-operate and rewards those people who are best at figuring out ways to co-operate with others.
Socialism on the other hand, rewards those who are best at pitting others against each other.
+1
Oh wait you forgot to mention the huge increase in earthquakes in Oklahoma (and elsewhere) from waste water injection.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/img/hockey-stick.png
A study done by a university in Colorado showed the Earthquakes are a function of rate of injection of the waste water. Since regulations were passed in Oklahoma restricting rate they have had many fewer earthquakes. You can usually solve these problems if you work at them.
Oh no, more regulations/sarc. Actually I’m for more of those where they do some good, the problem is that politicians usually keep the rotten/useless ones and discard those that are actually needed. The problem is that Republicans tend to present it as a black/white issue and the public does not have enough wherewithal to discern the important difference, so the corp’s run the show, usually detrimentally.
Funny thing. The areas with the earth quakes are hundreds of miles away from the places with waste water injection.
But don’t let something as trivial as reality get in the way of a good hate.
BTW, I love the way the troll talks about earthquakes as if all earthquakes knocked down buildings and killed people.
The vast majority of these “earthquakes” can’t be felt by anyone, not even people right on top of them.
The rest are so strong, that if you are standing still, or preferably lying down, you might mistake it for a truck passing by outside.
Andy May – I do not work in the petroleum industry. I am grateful to the industry for all of the improvements in my life that are the result of your work. Some examples of the benefits I enjoy are:
1) I love having the flexibility to drive where I want to drive when I want to go. At a very reasonable price. One example of this is the San Jose to Fairbanks trip we took when I was a kid.
2) All of the wonderful uses of plastics in my life.
3) The wonderful selection of food I have to eat due to fertilizers and trucks/planes/ships distribution.
The oil industry has made my life better. And I appreciate it.
Thanks, too few people take the time to consider what life would be like without oil and gas. We would be back in a time of subsistence farming, short life spans, intermittent (if any) power, very limited travel. Pollution would undoubtedly be worse, since it would be too expensive to remove waste. This war on fossil fuels, if the environmentalists win it, could be devastating. I’m reasonably certain the reason they lie about climate change is to convince the public to outlaw fossil fuels and put up with the consequences after it is done.
As a 30 year vet of big oil, I thank you for this comment.
Andy May: Thank you for your 41 years of work in an industry vital to the security and well-being of the United States and the world. Aside from the military, I cannot think of another more important, or more essential, or one that has contributed more to the progress of civilization.
/Mr Lynn
The military would be useless without….oil !!!
Dr. Strimatter,
I too voted for Al Gore. I was also a “true believer” by his (what turned out to be) propaganda film.
The problem is – and I agree with almost everything you wrote – is that you are missing the point at NPR.
They really don’t care about the science and never have. They know you’re correct in your analysis and always have. As you are well aware, they’re not stupid. However they are agenda driven.
Insofar as CAGW is concerned, what they care about is the political agenda. Obama’s “One World Government” dreams and the punishment of what they believe are the evils of Western Civilization. America to them is simply an exploitive, colonial entity that needs it’s up commence.
When you look at their bias from that perspective – it all becomes painfully clear..
Roger might be surprised to find that much of what he finds admirable about NPR’s programming is every bit as misleading as their reporting on the climate.
I remember I used to love the PBS science series NOVA until about 1990. Around 1990, they suddenly started tying whatever issue they were presenting to global warming. Then once the propaganda started being obvious, I went back to watch the older programs in the series and realized that the bias toward international socialism was there the whole time, it had just been much more subtle before global warming became the cause of the day. Now PBS is just unwatchable – or rather it was when I quit, I can’t remember the last time I watched a show on PBS.
Why should anybody pay attention to an organization (PBS) that promotes an ideology that is irrational.
I’ve always said that if a source turns out to be untrustworthy on a subject that you know something about, why should you trust them on subjects that you know nothing about?
“60 Minutes” hit that wall back in the 80’s, when they reported on an event that I not only knew something about, but had lived through. The bias was so deep you could cut it with a knife. That was the last time I ever watched that show.
Yes however you have experience and knowledge to cut through the BS, younger people have neither and believe it hook line and sinker, just as kids would turn their parents in to the authorities in some societies, I suspect they originally realized what they did, but it was too late.
Do you think there is evidence for the claim of runaway global warming, Svante?
As a hint, models are not evidence. They are predictions.
Arsten.
Try looking at the other lines of evidence.
Svante, there are no other lines of evidence.
Svante,
There are none. I have watched the published literature on this for 15 years. Each and every “Global warming is causing this!” paper (butterflies, pika, ice loss, etc) is not based on data, but on models that presuppose the link between CO2 and temperature.
All of the support for CAGW is model-based and not evidence-based.
To elaborate: Take a bit of data, say a population of crocodiles. If that population has decreased from 1979 to 2000, researchers then assume that this is because of the warming temperatures (insert standard correlation =/= causation rant here).
Then they build a model with this assumption embedded. As temperatures go up, crocodiles go down at the rate they calculated for the above-mentioned time interval. Then they run their model and go “If the temperature rises by 6 C, then the crocodiles become zero! Thus, by 2100 there will be no banging shoes or wallets!”
Then they publish. The problem that is never pointed out or corrected is that this is a spurious correlation and that significant other factors probably play a role with crocodile populations. But, that doesn’t stop the media and activists from going “ZOMG THE CROCS!” and telling people they are crocodile deniers for pointing out the obvious flaws in the story.
The falsification of claims of potential “runaway global warming” due to a couple-hundred ppm of CO2 is easy, but ignored by folks like Svante. The paleoclimate data shows much higher CO2 concentrations as recently as the Cretacious, which although it saw steady decline in CO2 concentration throughout, had concentrations between 3 and 5 times what it is today, and yet the temperatures stayed pretty steady at maybe 6-7 degree C above the frosty “normal” of the Quaternary ice age, and maybe 4 degree C above what the alarmists call “normal.” No correlation between steady drop in CO2 concentration from 5 times today to 3 times today’s concentration, and mostly steady, not decreasing or increasing temperatures, and to the point of Svante’s position, no “runaway” global warming. CO2 concentration cannot drive runaway global warming.
Not even on Venus, contrary to “popular” scientists’ positions. Venus’ temps are a product of the density of Venus’ atmosphere and the atmospheric pressure at ground level, not of “greenhouse effect” due to CO2.
You mean like the melting of the west antarctic ice shelf Svante?
The melting that energetically costs more than 15Watts per square meter that is being caused by only 0.6w per square meter?
Or maybe it’s the satellite observation that IR emission goes down with CO2 rise …. except that it doesn’t it goes up.
Or maybe its tge IPCC rainfall increase prediction which energetically costs 5W per square meter being caused also by 0.6W per square meter.
Or perhaps it’s that increase in hurricanes and hurricane strength costing megawatts per square meter caused by a christmas light of 0.6W per square meter and that hurricane experts say isn’t happening anyway… well Svante which line of evidence is it?
Dear Professor Stritmatter,
I fear that your view of the oil industry is dreadfully biased, I presume simply because of lack of knowledge. However, leaving this aside I really enjoyed and endorse what you have presented, but like many others here have to think that it won’t ever reach the people who need to read it. This is a great pity, and similar things have happened many times in the past. My own involvement in climate affairs has always been low-key and essentially private except to friends, but it began in 1992 when I discovered that climate (read “land surface temperature”) data seems to be characterised by prolonged stable periods interspersed with abrupt changes to a new level, as well as by periods of fairly steady increase or decrease. The ubiquity of abrupt changes seems to go unremarked by professional climate scientists, who tend to be obsessed by linear models, on which they base absurd long and short range forecasts. Simple techniques applied to real world data- (not synthetic climate models)- show that historical information debunks the notion that the Earth’s climate can be predicted, or even guessed at. Modeling abrupt change is beyond the scope of the climate model industry for good reason. They do not wish to admit it as a possibility. Ergo it does not exist.
You didn’t mention the appalling performance of the conventional climate models’ attempts to reproduce real-world observational data, which are growing more bizarre by the month. The ethical clash with the scientific method is almost beyond belief, as are the methods that the “believers” adopt or invent to excuse their failures. I really hope to survive another ten years to witness the total downfall of the climate establishment, and with it the demise of the religious environmentalists who are unable to make the distinction between their beliefs and reality.
The author, as he’s agreed to post here, risks being labeled a “traitor” by his peers. I’d at least keep that in mind.
The invention of the internet means that historians will need to work overtime to cover up or deflect the evidence of organizations that piled on to anti-science methods against the fact checkers.
If Obama could have another term, I’m quite certain he’d ask Congress for funds for the “Ministry of Truth”.
Read Orwell’s “1984”…. In other words, you’re correct.
Obama and the Democratic Party have had a Ministry of Truth for quite a while, its organs are the New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS,… Their primary function is to bury any inconvenient past along with whitewashing the present, in exact mimcry of 1984, to make the Democrats look good and the Republicans look bad.
Thanks again for the internet, Al Gore! 🙂
/sarc
This reminds me very much of Prof. Caleb Rossiter, though he’s a statistician and the fact that now this is not just set along political lines (liberals on one side, conservatives on the other). It also shows that there is definitely a growing skepticism. I also think the majority of people are fed up with our news stations and their extreme bias. This is why blogs like WUWT, JoNova, etc. are super important. No longer does biased media garner the attention it once did.
Why on earth would any sane person wish for the death of the fossil fuel industry?
Actually it’s been cooling for the last 10 years. Just not by a statistically significant amount.
The evidence behind the theory of future cooling is more substantial and much better documented than is the evidence behind the theory of future warming.
Not that you will ever look.
“My check from the petroleum industry never arrived, and I’m not an apologist for that dirty, violent, and hopefully moribund industry.”
How did this clown travel to the West coast?
“You can fool some of the people all of the time,
you can fool all of the people some of the time,
but you cannot fool all the people all of the time”
quote from Abraham Lincoln.
In the case of NPR you don’t even have to fool them if they depend on you for funding.
The CAGW cabal controls funding and the agenda will not change until the control over funding changes. It is ironic those accepting money from agenda driven governments and IPCC complain about skeptics’ funding sources.
You have to think critically to recognize irony….
This is how politicians today view it:
“You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”
GW Bush
“You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on, attributed to GW Bush”
This was said in jest and referred to advice given to him by Democrat Robert Strauss.
Do politicians ever really say anything in jest? Also note the Democrat reference is moot as I said “politicians”, who generally apply this rule, like with the left and minorities or the right and religious types.
PHD of humanities, P..iled H..igher and D..eeper comes to mind, to write so much when a paragraph would have covered it shows a mind that over thinks any and everything. The fact that he eventually comes to the right conclusion is just a coincidence IMO.
Not fair.
My abilities at critical thinking came from my studies in liberal arts (not the political context) and I am ever grateful that part of my education. I have a BSBA in Accounting and MBA. I could not apply those nearly as well without some basis in the liberal arts.
We all benefit from an understanding of the humanities and I applaud Dr. Stritmatter’s accomplishments in that regard.
While Dr. Stritmatter’s letter to NPR chastises the lack of a balanced approach to the topic of AGW Alarmism, he conveniently refuses to understand that NPR is neither a Balanced nor an Unbiased News and information source. NPR has always been Leftist Liberal, “Greenie, Wacko-Environmentalist”, and Anti-Industrial and in recent decades has been even more so. So for Dr. Stritmatter to claim that NPR is bowing to non-scientific “Experts” like Al Gore, he conveniently ignores the fact that his own Political leanings tacitly support the Bias of the NPR Views he claims to abhor.
He considers NPR to be unbiased in all other areas, because he agrees with NPR in all other areas.
Only biased people disagree with a liberal.
Just tried to send Prof Stritmatter an email @ur momisugly Coppin Univ to commend and thank him for his time, effort and excellent letter. My email was rejected by their server.
Prof Stritmatter, if you are reading these comments, thank you. Job well done!
Bill
It’s 2015 and Roger has figured out NPR is an ideological viewpoint remarkably free of evidence. His exasperation is a textook case of why erudition in a particular field does not automatically lead to reason, insight or expertise in other subject matter. Given his political views I would be suspect as to his contributions to the field of humanities.
The lack of a degree in Science does not prevent informed reasoning on the subject of CAGW.
How informative. A professor of humanities weighing in on an issue of Science, but contradicting all the Scientfic evidence.
[you might learn how to spell “scientific” before you start lambasting others for their opinion on scientific issues. And who’s to say that you have any better credentials? -mod]
How delightful. Warren# weighs in with his usual idiotic ad hominem comment.
One of these days warren will give up trying to convince us that every one who matters agrees with him.
@Mod: So you are the new online spell checker?
And you did not, I presume, know that the evidence does confirm AGW per 99.09% of peer-reviewed papers: http://jamespowell.org (Actually, I bet you didn’t know)
99.99
[James Powell? haha, my point is proven -mod]
NPR recently censored my comments pressing basic physics on their blog post claiming “climate science” to be one of the great accomplishments of human intellect : http://cosy.com/Science/NPR_Censors_Science.html .
The letter has some good points but it is much too long. As a subscriber to Astronomy Magazine I submiited the following letter to the editor regarding the column in there publication which I noted. Doubt it will be published. And yes there are many points and arguments I did not hit, but then it is thousands of words less.
To Editor regarding your “Intentional Ignorance” column, October issue:
First of all, the climate has been warming for about 12, 000 years, it’s called an interglacial period. To blame this, and so many, many other imagined potential calamities upon CO2 is ridiculous. Our planet is 70% covered by water which if spread out evenly upon a smooth unwrinkled Earth would be 6, 000 ft deep. The oceans contain voluminous amounts of sequestered CO2 which is released as the planet warms. We “deniers” do not argue that our planet is warming but that there is little to no proof that CO2 or man is the cause of that warming. In real science, correlation is not the same as causality.
I would also note that the purveyors of the theory of human caused global warming have changed their name to “climate change” as even the correlations are not that good between CO2 and temperature, the models used to predict temperature do not predict present or past temperatures well based upon CO2 levels, there is much data which would indicate that CO2 does not cause temperature but follows temperature, geologic evidence indicates our planet has been much warmer in the past with much higher CO2 levels and no ill effect. As a matter of fact CO2 is a prerequisite for photosynthesis, without which we would have a dead planet. And, by the way, most people I ask do not realize that CO2 is only .04% of our atmosphere, that’s four one hundreths of one percent. Pretty thin “blanket” compared to your Venus example, which also happens to be about 26 million miles closer to the Sun.
As far as dollars being used to promote the theory, look to your green lobby and the federal government for the really big dollars; grants to researchers who continually find new calamities which will fall upon us if we don’t do something about CO2, great multi billion dollar scams like Solyndra, and the reason why so many researchers tout the climate change mantra.
Statistically the proof of man caused climate change, global warming, or climate disasters or whatever you want to call it, does not exist. Your 97% is the result of poorly conducted research sampling and questionnaire development intended to push this politically charged issue.
In point of fact, historically, warm has always been better for our planet and all of its inhabitants, human and otherwise, than has cold. Nothing we can do will change the fact that climate is changing as it is a naturally occurring process and the economic byproducts of the war on carbon have their most grievous effects upon the poor, not to mention the economies of the entire world.
Consensus science is not science. All of the great discoveries of science have been made by skeptics who did not follow the party line of their times. CO2 is not the thermostat for our planet. Look to the oceans which cover 70% of our planet for one of the main controls, among many other variables, for our planetary climate control. It is a much more complicated multivariate system, which we do not yet understand, than the simplistic CO2 theory.
Disagree that it was too long as he was trying (uselessly I’m sure) to build a case that he wasn’t one of those conspiratorial “denialists” (not sure about the length of yours though).
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Dear readers….I need help to find the best possible answers to these questions. Thank you.
The following are some fundamental questions that I believe everyone should
be able to answer before taking a position on ‘climate change’:
How has the world’s climate fluctuated over the last 100,000 – 100 million
years?
What are the top 5 factors that influenced those changes and how do they
rank in relative importance?
What impact do these factors have on the atmosphere?
If increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere (and the presumed increase in
temperature) are so critical:
How is CO2 being produced and absorbed in the atmosphere? What processes
cause CO2 levels in the atmosphere to go up and down?
What is the % of man-made CO2 production as a % of total worldwide CO2
production?