Climate Insanity on steroids!

Economies collapsing, Middle East imploding – and Obama & Pals obsess over … the climate!

Guest essay by Paul Driessen

The Middle East is imploding. Islamic State butchers are annihilating Christian and other communities. Putin is sending arms to Assad. Under the Obama-Iran nuclear deal, the mullahs will get $100+ billion to expand their proxy terror war on Israel and the West. Saudi Arabia has 100,000 empty air-conditioned tents but won’t take any of the millions who’ve been driven from their homes. Neither will most of the other 22 Arab League nations or 57 Organization of Islamic Cooperation member countries.

Instead, millions of mostly Muslim migrants, militants and refugees are heading to Europe – with limited money, education, job skills, or desire to assimilate. They demand entry into EU countries whose energy, economic, employment and welfare systems are already foundering or nearing collapse.

EU nations have hobbled their nuclear and carbon-based energy systems so completely that unsubsidized German and Danish electricity prices are almost ten times higher than in US states that still rely on coal-fired generation. Industrial giant Siemens is cutting 1,600 jobs in its power and gas division, companies are hard-pressed to compete internationally, and 0.5% annual economic growth is deemed “robust.”

So naturally, President Obama, Pope Francis, the European Commission, United Nations, and many poor countries are obsessed with – climate change! It’s insanity on steroids. The alarmist assertions are absurd.

“Climate change is already disrupting our agriculture and ecosystems, our water and food supplies,” Obama recently inveighed. “If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century.”

Projected by whom? Who concocts these fables? Nature-driven climate change has disrupted lives throughout human history. Seas have risen 400 feet since the last mile-thick glaciers melted off the northern half of Asia, Europe and North America. How did “imperiled” Pacific islands survive that?

Some Alaskan glaciers have been retreating for decades, but Hubbard is growing and Glacier Bay’s ice retreat began around 1750. Arctic sea ice has increased some 26% (400,000 square miles) since 2012, in a cycle that’s continued for millennia. The sea ice “was thick in the 1920s, thin in the 1930s and 1940s, thick again in the 1960s and 1970s, and thinner in recent decades,” oceanographer Igor Polyakov noted in 2004.

“Not only in the summer, but in the winter the [Bering Sea region] was free of ice, sometimes with a wide strip of water up to at least 200 miles away from the shore,” Swedish explorer Oscar Nordkvist reported in 1822. “We were astonished by the total absence of ice in the Barrow Strait,” Francis McClintock, captain of the Fox, wrote in 1860. “I was here at this time in 1854 – still frozen up – and doubts were entertained as to the possibility of escape.” How did cars and power plants cause all that?

Meanwhile Greenland’s ice mass has grown by some 200 cubic kilometers (48 cubic miles) just since 2014. Vikings built homes, grew crops and raised cattle in Greenland between 950 and 1300, before they were frozen out by the Little Ice Age and encroaching pack ice and glaciers. Antarctic sea ice set another record in May, the US National Snow and Ice Data Center reports, climbing 12% above the long-term 1981-2010 average, to reach 12.1 million square kilometers (800,000 square miles) – almost as much as Alaska and Texas combined!

If it’s global warming and climate change, shouldn’t melting phenomena be constant and global?

Pope Francis nevertheless plans to meet with President Obama September 23, to discuss “dangerous manmade climate change” and how to ensure “preferential treatment of the poor,” by building “clean” energy economies and stopping “carbon pollution.” Their concerns and solutions are illusory.

They disdain fossil fuels and capitalism – though they have brought greater health and well-being to more people than any other systems in history. They prefer the socialism, centralized government control, higher energy prices, fundamental economic transformations and wealth redistribution schemes advanced by the UN and Climate Crisis, Inc. By denying the world’s poorest people energy, jobs and economic growth, this agenda will sentence them to perpetual poverty, disease and early death. By mandating the use of biofuels, wind turbines and solar panels, it will turn food into fuel, increase malnutrition, convert wildlife habitats into enormous inefficient energy facilities, and kill countless millions of birds and bats.

The pope and president dismiss these impacts. They insist that climate change is a far worse problem, and that modern energy, housing and living standards for the world’s poor would not be “sustainable.” They believe “morality,” “climate justice” and “preferential treatment” mean protecting people from hypothesized, exaggerated and fabricated climate disasters 25, 50 or 100 years from now – by destroying millions of jobs and keeping the world’s poor energy-deprived and impoverished now and in perpetuity.

The pope and president denigrate plant-fertilizing carbon dioxide as “carbon pollution” and say this 0.04% of Earth’s atmosphere has replaced the powerful natural forces that have always driven climate and weather fluctuations and events. They disregard satellite and weather balloon data and records from East Anglia University, which show there has been no planetary warming since at least late 1997, if not 1995.

They studiously ignore the fact that even full implementation of EPA’s fraudulent and destructive Clean Power Plan would at best prevent a global temperature increase of only 0.03 degrees F and a sea-level rise of barely 0.01 inches by 2100. And those “benefits” assume CO2 is the culprit in climate change.

Like other climate alarmists, they refuse to recognize that some 2,300 coal-fired power plants are already operating worldwide, and almost 2,200 more are being proposed, developed or built. Nearly 900 are planned for China and India alone. In barely ten years, Asia’s energy consumption will increase 31% and some two-thirds of that demand will be oil, natural gas and coal. So a US shutdown would do nothing.

Developed countries have dug a tiger trap – and walked into it. Their constant rants about “catastrophic manmade climate change” are driving policies that shut down carbon-based energy, economic growth and job creation in Formerly Rich Countries, while telling developing nations to hold us for climate ransom.

Following Obama’s recent GLACIER conference in Anchorage, China, India and Russia (three of the four biggest CO2-emitting nations) refused to sign a nonbinding declaration seeking greater international action to combat Arctic melting and climate change. Nearly all developing countries oppose agreements calling for binding emission targets or even “obligatory review mechanisms” of their voluntary efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Meanwhile, they now insist on $100 billion to $400 billion per year in climate change “mitigation, adaptation and compensation,” plus free energy technology transfers.

Denmark is dropping plans to phase out coal-fired power plants and be fossil-fuel-free by 2050. Britain is junking its wind energy subsidies and pushing ahead with fracking for gas to fuel more power plants. But meanwhile, Mr. Obama is thumbing his nose at Congress and American voters and unemployed workers – and imposing ever more restrictions on coal and natural gas use, and more taxpayer subsidies for wind, solar and biofuel programs, on top of water, ozone and other regulations. This will cost trillions of dollars, inflict heavy costs on poor and middle class families, and bring few or no health or ecological benefits.

The agenda being driven by President Obama, Pope Francis, the UN and Climate Crisis, Inc. means our huddled masses will be forced to share ever-greater scarcity, ever-lower living standards, ever-fewer jobs and opportunities. But of course it all will be apportioned “fairly and equitably” – by ruling elites and their cronies, whose desk jobs, six-figure salaries and upper crust life styles will be protected by the same executive powers they employ to protect the planet from climate raptors and hobgoblins.

It’s time for Congress to pass bills dismantling and defunding Obama’s energy and climate dictates – and dare Democrats to vote against them and in favor of this destructive Executive Branch power grab.


 

­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow, author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death, and coauthor of Cracking Big Green: Saving the world from the Save-the-Earth money machine.

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Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 4:07 am

Two lights on the horizon: Obama has two years left. And the Pope is an old man.

Scott
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 6:39 am

What Obama has set in motion, will make it such that any “normal” POTUS can look like a superstar.
Just taking away the regulatory strangle hold (for the most part – read that as EPA) will allow the American engine to gain steam.
If the next POTUS can convince the public (not the crony “scientists” on the dole), that CAGW is and always has been a scam, the money can come home and the economy will really take off.
If further, smart policy can be used for future unforeseen events (that will surely come – like a “Katrina”), then the nation and by proxy the entire world will benefit.
Obama and the Pope have turned the world upside down. When responsible leaders finally get it that cheap abundant energy will save the world instead of destroy it, we’ll have a fighting chance.
Until then, George Orwell looks more prescient than ever.

Catcracking
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 11:49 am

Yes but the whole world and our economy is such a horrible mess that the next President will have a difficult time getting things sorted out. Consider the National debt, eliminating the border, and changing all those who have gotten used to food stamps, no need to work, etc. And of course the MSM will blame the next President for all the problems if Republican.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 6:49 pm

Yes but the whole world and our economy is such a horrible mess that the next President will have a difficult time getting things sorted out.

Especially considering most of a president’s first term is spent campaigning for his second term, and most of his second term is spent fundraising for his party. Between all the vacations, there isn’t much time for actual presidenting.

Norbert Twether
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 6:56 am

Obama has two years left —– and he is lining up his next job, which will be an international role in fighting Global Warming :¬) …….. and the Pope is always an old man ………..

asybot
Reply to  Norbert Twether
September 21, 2015 12:18 pm

He’ll first milk the “talk tour” dry and then be voted in as the UN leader.

michael hart
Reply to  Norbert Twether
September 21, 2015 3:44 pm

Tony Blair thought he was going to do the same thing. He’s still milking the talk-circuit somewhere and has a job saving something for somebody somehow, but no one in the UK seriously believes he exists anymore.
Coming to an ObamaPope soon. Terrible things, legacies.

tomharrisicsc
Reply to  Norbert Twether
September 21, 2015 10:49 pm

Does it look like Obama will join Gore on the GW speaking circuit gravy train ($125,000 per speech for Gore) after OB retires?

CD153
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 8:18 am

Obama only actually has 16 months left. And believe me, I AM counting each month. I keep saying to myself,only 16 more months, only 16 more months……..

Resourceguy
Reply to  CD153
September 21, 2015 10:34 am

Except his policies are consistent with party planks and his methods are merely the new approach of the party for “I don’t care what you say” style of over reach. Compromise and pull back to the political center is such a dated concept. It is naive to think that either policy set or methodology approach will go away soon.

frozenohio
Reply to  CD153
September 21, 2015 2:03 pm

486 days according to my countdown clock!

Tom Yoke
Reply to  CD153
September 21, 2015 8:13 pm

I hear you, but I’ve always regarded Obama as more of an effect than a cause. He is purely the creation of our Academic and Media class, and unfortunately they will still be with us even after Obama is gone.
Until we squarely address the reasons our public culture has become so left-wing, the beatings will continue.
The short answer is that the moral ideology of the left holds powerful attractions for those who have frequent opportunities for praying in public, and no accountability for disastrous policy: “I at least have the courage to challenge the haves and to care about the have-nots”. This is a potent tool for striking moral attitudes in public, but it is a truly horrible guide to workable laws.
The left-wing moral ideology makes judgments based on peoples condition, yet society MUST instead incentivise mutually beneficial behaviors and punish parasitic/predatory ones. That inevitably creates haves and have-nots. Therefore, in a society with optimal laws and customs, policies based on the liberal ideology lead to perverse incentives 100% of the time.

gnomish
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 1:25 pm

the epic stupid is not imposed top down.
it takes generations of effort by parents to breed and raise and educate a planet of cannibals
but go ahead and spend your last years trying to find somebody to blame – since self possession and individual responsibility are to be evaded at all costs- when the natural long.term consequences can not be. (when there are no more goats to be sacrificed)
and obama finds your tears delicious even as the crowd clamors for crumbs from his supper table.

Jamie
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2015 5:35 pm

Better than that. Only 16 months

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 23, 2015 1:18 pm

I see this as little more than a device to divert attention away from a very real scandal
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/23/pope-francis-us-catholic-church-sex-abuse-scandal-bishops

Bill Marsh
Editor
September 21, 2015 4:09 am

I’d correct your statement in that Putin is not only sending arms to Assad, he’s sending Russian combat troops armed with the best weapons in the Soviet, er, Russian inventory and he does intend to put them in harm’s way to prop up Assad’s regime by attacking the ISIS/Al Qaeda/Nursa, etc fighters. The Russians have landed T-90 tanks and I assure you they are NOT going to allow the Syrians to use them. The ‘usual fare’ for Russian client states are the old T-72, perhaps the T-72B. They’ve also landed somewhere around 10,000 Russian Marines and thousands of armored infantry along with supporting APC, artillery, anti-air, & now they are landing close air support. He’s building a brigade if not division sized ground force. They aren’t there just to provide base security and ‘train’ Syrian troops. They are going to coordinate with Quds force Hezbollah forces.

hunter
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 4:22 am

If Russia is going to coordinate with Hezbollah, then among the many failures of the Obama/Clinton foreign policy we can see that a military alliance between Iran and Russia is one of the long term worst. These fools in the West are going to assure that WWIII results in massive human losses and the likely recasting of borders in ways that harms Western interests.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  hunter
September 21, 2015 7:42 am

Western interests are to disengage from the region. Why can’t we just simply do business – buy their oil at a negotiated price and stay the heck out of the place. Hydraulic fracturing will disengage us but we seem to throw sand in the faces of any efforts to get ahead and free of the crippling arrangements made by our grandfathers and meanwhile, Europe has bred a ruling class of idiots and I can’t see anyway this region can be saved from total collapse. I don’t live there but your and my plans for some sort of decent, pleasant retirement are being scuttled by world ideological idiot leaders, simian economic managers and self immolating immigration non policies. For those whose retirement plans are far into the future – there situation is even worse – will they have jobs to build a future on.
I thought Donald Trump was part of the joke we are trapped in, but perhaps he and a dozen like him can save the world. I had resigned myself to looking to India, China and Russia to save us from European Brain Disease. In the US, except for Trump, the savaging of the constitution and the throwing its lot in with the decline and fall of europe is considered a project ‘too big to fail’. We live in interesting (nightmarish) times. How can there be so much hope for the wife of a former prez as another experiment in US politics. Isn’t there a fresh-faced real statesman out there somewhere – I guess the best chance is for a real estateman instead.

asybot
Reply to  hunter
September 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Gary Pearse,
“Europe has bred a ruling class of idiots and I can’t see anyway this region can be saved from total collapse”
.
Centuries of inbreeding at the “highest” levels from royalty to the rich have assured that, thanks for pointing this out.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 5:46 am

What evidence do you have to back up your claims?

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 21, 2015 7:44 am

Gerry, what evidence do you have that any evidence presented to you wouldn’t be ignored.

Scott
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 6:24 am

I wonder what Netanyahu can bring to the table to assuage the Soviets (er – Russians) from doing?
Obama has no intention of stopping Putin who is acting like the world’s largest Mafia “Don”.
Putin is in it for money and power. He sells to the Iranians and gains ground in the Middle East.
I’d love to hide my head in the sand, but your analysis is clearly correct.
Obama has lit the fuse on a powder keg that will go off in only a matter of time; not an if or when.
I pray that Israel has a plan and a that antimissile missile’s like “David’s Sling” and the “Arrow” system really work.
Iran has said that Israel is a “one bomb country”. It’s true – and as such – makes them extraordinarily vulnerable to massive casualties.
I’ll be visiting Israel in a few months time. I hope it’s not a last look at a wonderful nation as it “once was”……

Scott
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 6:33 am

Back on point:
The article is correct. The emphasis however needs to be re-enforced. It’s never been about the “science” it’s always been about the politics. The IPCC has admitted as such, but the warmists synergistic agenda will not be deterred by facts.
See link:http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/un-ipcc-official-admits-we-redistribute-the-worlds-wealth-by-climate-policy/question-3934033/

Arsten
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:12 am

“There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters”
― Daniel Webster

Jimbo
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:36 am

Global warming is what you talk about when you want to deflect attention away from the Middle East and troublesome domestic issues.
Global warming is what you talk about when you want to deflect attention away from clergy sexually abusing kids.
Am I being too cynical? Too harsh?

TRM
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 8:32 am

” Jimbo September 21, 2015 at 7:36 am”
Global warming is what you talk about when you want to deflect attention away from the Middle East and troublesome domestic issues.
Global warming is what you talk about when you want to deflect attention away from clergy sexually abusing kids.
Am I being too cynical? Too harsh?”
No you are being very accurate.

Stuart Jones
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 6:31 pm

It is all part of the plan, WW111 in the ME, reduces population, reduces terrorist threat, reduces Muslim population, gets rid of Israel as a political problem, puts a lot of oil out of reach (or in western control after the radiation blows away) and the UN/US/Pope want it to happen soon before global warming falls apart as a method of controlling the agenda. Win-Win for the west, they have no conscience, just a plan that has been generations in the making

JohnKnight
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:10 pm

Scott,
“…Israel is a “one bomb country”. It’s true – and as such – makes them extraordinarily vulnerable to massive casualties.”
So is the US from what I’ve read, since the two billion dollars or so that could prevent a total collapse of the power grid in the event of a well places EMP device, is apparently too much to spend on preventing the utter catastrophe a widespread long term blackout would inevitably mean for us wee folk. Far more has been spent each year on underground facilities and such though, for the favored few . . so not to worry, Amerika will still be a menace to humanity,

MarkW
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 7:09 am

Safe bet that if they do manage to defeat ISIS, these troops will not be returning to Russia.
This is Russia’s first permanent base in the middle east, and it won’t be their last.
This is something the Russians have been pushing for, for the last 50 years, and all previous presidents vigorously opposed.
Another grand failure for Obama’s foreign policy.

asybot
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 12:26 pm

MarkW, And it will not be long before the USA will lose it’s Navy base in the Gulf either. I am afraid that is going to be Obama’s last ( and worst) ME decision.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 10:30 pm

JohnKnight. I think if you really examine Obama actions and objectives what has happened in the Middle East and around the world are not his failures, but his policy successes.

TRM
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 8:28 am

Correct on the T-90s. Russia has had a base at Tartas for a long time and now they have one in Latakia. The Russian troops will provide training and protection for their bases. The mercenaries (Russian, Iranian & Lebanese) will do the fighting with the Syrian troops to provide the force multiplier effect.
I give IS in Syria about 1 year to live. They will suffer huge losses and go back to Iraq. The USA’s “air war only” is a joke for dealing with a situation like this. The Russian approach is much more effective. The goal if to destroy IS not to contain them. The USA approach is next to useless.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Bill Marsh
September 21, 2015 10:37 am

Where is this information? It appears to be in the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” file at present.

M Seward
September 21, 2015 4:10 am

Barack Obama will be remembered by history as the Timothy Leary of presidents. A narcissistic nut job.

John C
Reply to  M Seward
September 21, 2015 7:27 am

That’s an insult to Timothy…comparing him to Obama.

hunter
September 21, 2015 4:19 am

If history can shed some light on this, and it can, leaders who try to rule the weather make serious mistakes in their areas of actual authority.
From the tragic madness of Caligula which among many other things manifested in his war upon the sea, to King Canute finding out that there are limits on what political power can do regarding the sea, there are real warnings and lessons about how foolish Western leaders are behaving.
https://faculty.history.wisc.edu/sommerville/123/Canute%20Waves.htm

Reply to  hunter
September 21, 2015 5:48 am

Canute’s legendary attempt to stop the tide was his way of showing his people that there are limits to what even a King could do for them. We seem to have “progressed” to a stage where an educated elite believes that all problems can be solved by central planning by an educated elite.

Old'un
Reply to  rogertaguchi
September 21, 2015 6:49 am

“Denmark is dropping plans to phase out coal-fired power plants and be fossil-fuel-free by 2050. Britain is junking its wind energy subsidies and pushing ahead with fracking for gas to fuel more power plants”
Canute was a Danish King who also ruled a large slice of Britain. Common sense is clearly in the genes.

Alba
Reply to  rogertaguchi
September 21, 2015 6:56 am

It’s amazing in this day and age that the real story about King Canute still needs to be made. The myth about King Canute is one of the longest-surviving historical myths around. It doesn’t seem to matter how many times people point out the truth about Canute there’s always somebody who pops up with the myth version.

Daniel
Reply to  hunter
September 21, 2015 2:03 pm

King Canute was the wisest of Kings. His foray to the sea was to teach his councillors the limits of his power. Much maligned.

September 21, 2015 4:25 am

It’s simple. We are in an asylum and the lunatics have taken over.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
September 21, 2015 5:06 am

That might explain why we are now being over-run with asylum seekers.
Come on in guys, welcome to the asylum, you’ve come to the right place, at the right time.
60 years of leftist subversion have already turned all ours brains to jelly.
We can no longer de-silt a blocked up water drainage channel or bury low grade radioactive waste safely deep under the ground without creating a log-jam of conflicting interests and inaction.
Our societal behaviour, if it were an individual, would be best described as anxiety-prone, catatonic, delusional, self-harming but prone to occasional bouts of severe violent psychotic rage.
Russia, China and the Gulf states, meanwhile, are playing the long game and occasionally aiding us in our self-defeating confusion.
Whether the total collapse of our societies will be in their interest, when it occurs, is another matter.
So, maybe they also are utterly insane.
(P.S. I am in the UK, Worst luck.)

George Tetley
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
September 21, 2015 11:59 am

Germany’s”Muckle ” is giving a estimate of cost £950 for each asylum seeker a month, what a “Muddle,” but how is she going to pay the millions that are on the way to get this gift from the CHRISTIANS ? None of the other EU States want and have not the financial resources, winter in a tent ? Lucky the Germans have 3,000,000 empty houses , Food? etc.,etc.,

Auto
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
September 21, 2015 1:10 pm

George,
We can sell them food.
In fact, I trust they will allow many millions in – as our milk production will support those millions.
I hope this will give our dairy farmers a living wage, at least.
Auto

CD
September 21, 2015 4:37 am

I wonder if Obama has design on the UN sec general in the future. Otherwise his recent comments on “Climate change” are nonsensical. Either way none of these stories make any sense

Scott
Reply to  CD
September 21, 2015 6:58 am

According to the UN Charter. A citizen of one of the 5 permanent members may not be elected to the office of Secretary General. I’m sure if he could be elected, he would be elected. I’m also sure he’d want the position.

Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:10 am

He’ll just suddenly rediscover he’s Kenyan.

Dahlquist
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:10 am

Just give Obama time…He’ll “find” his real birth certificate as a Kenyan citizen and as a Muslim. So, he can become Secretary General of the UN.

MarkW
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 7:12 am

Leftists have made an art form out of finding ways around clearly written rules, when they don’t ignore them altogether.

asybot
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 12:29 pm

Ron House, you took the words out of my brain!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  CD
September 21, 2015 7:03 am

Obama’s long term goal in support of his Muslim friends is the destruction of Israel. Allowing Russians in Syria to establish an air base will prevent/respond to Israel flying over to get to Iran. The illegal treaty with Iran, the allowing of Russian military in Syria, the ignoring of ISIS is all set up so that in the near future there will be an attempt to destroy Israel. But the timing will be set so that Obama will be out of office two years so that he can claim he had nothing to do with it saying “Israel was fine when I left office”. He will be regarded as a hero by Muslims all over the world and they will push for him to be a world leader.

September 21, 2015 4:37 am

Someone nudge Pope Junta and remind him that sea level rise (this time around) is a mere dribble and has been going on since Pope Pius…the Sixth!

Alba
Reply to  mosomoso
September 21, 2015 6:57 am

Pope Junta? Is that some modern myth or what?

September 21, 2015 4:40 am

In the Peter Principle one of the signs of ‘final placement syndrome’ is the ‘Utter Irrelevancy’ ploy.
A manager who has been promoted to a position of total incompetence will engage in things that are utterly irrelevant, because he cannot tackle the real problem.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 21, 2015 7:29 am

“A manager who has been promoted to a position of total incompetence will engage in things that are utterly irrelevant.”
What follows will be the setting-up of a paper empire in which staff are required to document every step of the work they do, and to document them in the most inefficient and time-consuming manner possible. Usually in ledger-books spaced at intervals around the building such that staff have to make continual journeys to and from these books.
The objective of the exercise will not be to streamline work or to provide useful information, but to create deliberate inefficiency, and to serve as a pretext to find (fictitious) faults with staff performance, faults which will then be blamed for the same inefficiency.
The ‘manager’ will then claim that the existence of this inefficiency and the need to tackle it, justifies their paycheck.

ROM
September 21, 2015 4:42 am

But, but, America’s Nero has his presidential legacy to consider.
A truly grand legacy for one so enamoured of his own image, a legacy he hopes will be acclaimed down through the ages for his personal saving of the planet.
A legacy that will be spoken about and commented on for generations to come.
But sadly for America and the world, it will most likely be a legacy that will judge Obama as America’s Nero and one of the worst presidents ever out of that very competitive field of similarly endowed past Presidents

emsnews
September 21, 2015 4:44 am

The real problem is birth control: half of the world refuses to practice it and makes it illegal and at the same time modern medicine has stopped the mass deaths of mainly young people which kept the world population lower, so now we have a population catastrophe in all Muslim countries, Africa and Catholic countries that forbid birth controls.
These in turn are invading birth control countries like Europe and the US. This, in turn, is leading to all sorts of tensions and problems that will multiply literally in the future.

Monna Manhas
Reply to  emsnews
September 21, 2015 6:03 am

The real problem is not birth control. The real problem is poverty. Poverty keeps people uneducated because they can’t afford schooling. It keeps people unemployed, because they can’t afford to purchase the tools they need to ply a trade or start a business. And it keeps people mourning, because most of their children die from lack of medical care. Your lack of empathy for poor people who lose their children to starvation and disease is breathtaking. Shame on you.

emsnews
Reply to  Monna Manhas
September 21, 2015 6:42 am

Too many children=starvation and poverty.

Dahlquist
Reply to  Monna Manhas
September 21, 2015 6:47 am

Monna
It’s not a lack of empathy for poor people. It is anger at tyrannical, socialist, fascist and most muslim countries that keep their people uneducated and poor.

MarkW
Reply to  Monna Manhas
September 21, 2015 7:16 am

ems: No socialism brings on starvation and poverty. Children are a resource and make a country wealthier. Assuming they have a political system that permits that.

Klem
Reply to  Monna Manhas
September 21, 2015 4:12 pm

Global birth rates peaked in 1963 and have been falling ever since. The population bomb is a myth.

MarkW
Reply to  emsnews
September 21, 2015 7:15 am

Fascinating how someone can be wrong on so many subjects at the same time.
Birth control has had absolutely nothing to do with the reduction in birth rates all around the world.
Birth rates have fallen dramatically even in countries where birth control has been outlawed.
It is prosperity that always reduces birth rates. Prosperity brought about by capitalism.

mebbe
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 8:16 am

So, do sperm counts go down in proximity to large amounts of money? Or do rich people just have diminished libido?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 12:38 pm

It really is sad the way reality manages to avoid certain people.
If you doubt reality, check with any resource library.
The answer is there if you have the wit to look for it.
To answer your ill conceived question, to the rich, children are a drain on resources as they have to fed, housed and educated. For the poor, children are a resource since they can be put to work.
That’s been well known for some 50 years. Surprised you have managed to miss it for so long.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 2:51 pm

THE thing that most stongly correlates with low birth rates is high levels of female education. That then derives from prosperity.
Islam pushes to prevent girls getting an education for a reason. The result is the present mob of “asylum seekers” swamping Europe. EU nations are to get the Lebanon Treatment. Anyone else remember peaceful wealthy Christian Lebanon of 1/2 century past? This strategy is stated openly with respect to Israel and the intent to demographically swamp Jews via high birth rates.
The goal of most of the world’s nations is to reduce Europe and the USA to poverty. They are well on their way to that goal. Socialism thrives on chaos and turmoil, while dictators of all stripes have known for generations to create catastrophes so that they are invited to power. Note that Rome scattered the Jews to as far as Hispanola and Britain assemble Iraq out of incompatible parts. That wasn’t stupid, that was the goal… Thus the USA hispanic influx going unchecked and global relocation of “migrants”.

mebbe
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 6:34 pm

MarkW September 21, 2015 at 12:38 pm
Though I am charmed by your tact, I am not impressed by your logic.
Few of us dispute that prosperity appears to result in reduced fecundity; it is the mechanism by which this occurs that is of interest to us witless ones.
It appears that affluent people take steps to avoid conception, interrupt inchoate pregnancies and practise ‘birth control’, whereas poor people are less inclined to do that for whatever reason.
I’m still intrigued to read your inspired account of how capitalism leads to fewer babies.
I’ve heard lawyers rely on their personalities for birth control; you’re not a lawyer, are you?

Stuart Jones
Reply to  emsnews
September 21, 2015 6:37 pm

there is the nuclear option of birth control.
works for generations after the fact too.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  emsnews
September 21, 2015 10:38 pm

Whenever I hear anyone saying we have too many people, I like to ask them why don’t they lead the way and practice what they preach.

emsnews
Reply to  Leonard Lane
September 22, 2015 3:14 am

Most western nations do exactly that: use lots of birth control.
It is FORBIDDEN in Muslim countries. You can be executed for accessing birth controls. And an army of ill educated, poorly fed children is not an asset but a disaster.

Alba
Reply to  emsnews
September 22, 2015 5:00 am

Can you give us a few examples of these ‘Catholic countries which forbid birth control’?

Greg Woods
September 21, 2015 4:50 am

Bogota to shut down tomorrow Tuesday because of Warmist lunacy, No cars or motorcycles will be allowed to circulate from 5am to 7:30pm in order to support Global Climax Warming.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Greg Woods
September 21, 2015 6:03 am

Gaia sex ??

aussiepete
September 21, 2015 5:02 am

When did Mr Obama makes the reference to the projected 6 to 12 degree temperature increase for Alaska and did he state his source? Is there some mechanism by which he can be asked where he got those figures?. This is a very serious situation, for the President of The United States to make such a statement without references surely is bordering on the criminally negligent.

Reply to  aussiepete
September 21, 2015 5:37 am

I doubt it’s “negligence.”

Reply to  aussiepete
September 21, 2015 10:11 pm

The Great Deceiver needs no supporting evidence. His statements are fact!..pg

Bob Lyman
September 21, 2015 5:33 am

Paul, Thank you for a most eloquent rant. I wish there were some way of getting this posted in the mainstream media, not just on a web site where one is “preaching to the choir”.

Reply to  Bob Lyman
September 21, 2015 7:21 am

+1

Tom O
September 21, 2015 6:12 am

I didn’t read past “Obama is giving the mullahs 100 billion to spread terror against Israel, did anyone else? Such an ignorant statement doesn’t deserve further reading. Obama isn’t “giving” Iran anything but their own damn money, and as far as their supporting Hezbollah, the only times Hezbollah and Israel have fought wars is when Israel invaded Lebanon, so I don’t see that support as terrorizing Israel, as it is hard to terrorize the terror center in the middle east.

TonyL
Reply to  Tom O
September 21, 2015 6:35 am

Death to the Great Satan! Death to the Zionist Pigs!
A primitive 7th century culture with 1000 years of tribal hatreds and an ideology of world conquest, equipped with fully modern nuclear weapons.
What could go wrong?
When a bunch of brutal murderous barbarians with no claim to civilization at all, tell you it is their sacred religious duty to exterminate you, you might pay attention.
You would not be in the land of the Great Satan by any chance, would you?

Dahlquist
Reply to  Tom O
September 21, 2015 6:54 am

Tom O
That is just about the most ignorant statement I’ve ever heard.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Dahlquist
September 21, 2015 10:41 pm

+1

MarkW
Reply to  Tom O
September 21, 2015 7:18 am

I love the way some people always act as if everything Israel does in unprovoked and immoral.
Of course Tom totally ignores that fact that Hezbollah was using Lebanese territory to rain down rockets and artillery shells onto Israel and was launching cross border raids.
Of course, it was all Israel’s fault for wanting to stop the murder of it’s citizens. Shame on Israel, don’t they know that they have a duty to die.

rw
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 12:33 pm

And of course it was those pesky Jews provoking the sensitive Arabs that led to the 1948 war.

schitzree
Reply to  MarkW
September 22, 2015 4:38 pm

I honesty don’t know which is more pathetic, the blatant lies the Islamic terrorists tell to try to justify their crimes, or the brain washed leftists like Tom who will eagerly parrot ever word. Useful Idiot has never been a better description.

Resourceguy
September 21, 2015 6:17 am

And the Pope’s meeting with Cuban dissidents did not happen, and the Iranian mullahs expect hundreds of billions of dollars in coming months. It’s just the powerless and the innocent that lose.

Neville
September 21, 2015 6:26 am

Aussie blogger Ken Stewart has looked at a number of regions of the planet and using UAH V 6 satellite data has calculated the length of the pause for each.
The planet has not warmed for 18 yrs 5 mths.
The NH has not warmed for 18 yrs 2 mths.
The SH has not warmed for 19 yrs 7 mths.
The Tropics have not warmed for 21 yrs I mth.
The Tropical oceans have not warmed for 22 yrs 11 months.
The North polar region has not warmed for 13 yrs 7 mths.
The South polar region has not warmed for 36 yrs 9 mths or for the entire record.
Australia has not warmed for 17 years 11 mths.
The USA has not warmed for 18 yrs 3 mths.
So where is the impact from extra co2 emissions? And why hasn’t the South polar region warmed at all since 1979?
https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/pause-update-september-2015/

Reply to  Neville
September 21, 2015 1:26 pm

Since it’s a settled scientific fact that the man-made CO2 molecule is climate’s control knob, 20 years ago Al Gore and Bill Nye must have reversed its polarity.
(Now if they can only remember how they did it, they could end “the pause” for real without others having to fiddle with the numbers!)

Adrian Ashfield
September 21, 2015 6:32 am

This is not the place for politics with the exception of how they directly effect climate related things.
The current M.E. problem is the direct result of America meddling in their affairs and then walking away from the mess they caused.

Scott
Reply to  Adrian Ashfield
September 21, 2015 6:44 am

When it comes to CAGW Adrian, it’s ALL about politics (and money).
Their “false science” has been debunked so many times that the shrill nonsense from the other side invoking RICO statues makes it quite clear. It’s ALL about the politics and virtually nothing about the science.

Scott
Reply to  Scott
September 21, 2015 6:48 am

As a direct example. How many times have you read in the MSM that the Syrian Civil War was caused by “Global Warming”. Google it, you’ll find lots of nonsense that takes this seriously including “studies”.

MarkW
Reply to  Adrian Ashfield
September 21, 2015 7:19 am

Wow, it’s amazing how many people actually believe that the Middle East was a Garden of Eden, with no problems of any kind, until the US showed up and destroyed everything.
I guess many people put ideology ahead of reality.

Scott
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2015 8:25 am

First – Your point is?
Second – Who implied the ME was a “Garden of Eden” until the US showed up?

mebbe
Reply to  Adrian Ashfield
September 21, 2015 9:15 am

Adrian, what you meant was “I’m the only one that should be making political statements”. Right?

September 21, 2015 6:33 am

I am waiting for study showing optimum climate for our biosphere. Sadly, the only studies from climate science converge towards optimum socialism and sustainable grant writing.

emsnews
Reply to  buckwheaton
September 21, 2015 6:45 am

Evidently, the Little Ice Age is the warmist’s paradise. Seriously. We are not as warm as the Medieval Warm Cycle and they are yelling that it is already ‘too hot’ and when asked when was it ‘perfect’ they mention basically before 1800 which was the tail end of the Little Ice Age!
These people plan to kill us all.

Scott
Reply to  buckwheaton
September 21, 2015 6:45 am

I’ll give your thesis and “A+”…..

TonyL
September 21, 2015 6:49 am

The claims of Climate Apocalypse have been debunked here and elsewhere to an ample extent. No need to cover that ground again.
So, why this, why now?
We have seen over and over again, when a government trashes their country and gets in trouble, there is one out they take. They raise the specter of “The Other” as a grave threat. Usually this takes the form of a nearby country posing a military threat. This serves the dual purpose of distracting the people from the real problems, and causing the people to want safety, which only the government can provide. This bit of theater is usually the hallmark of dictators and totalitarians.
The person in question has demonstrated that he can not run a war, so he selects the climate as his bogeyman of choice.

William Astley
September 21, 2015 6:49 am

I concur with the your comments. CAGW has become a mania, madness, a significant threat to our countries.
There is no CAGW problem. There appears to be almost no AGW. The cult of CAGW have fudged: the warming calculations, the general circulation models, and past and current temperature data to attempt to justify there assertion that there is any evidence that would support CAGW.
Every developed country is running yearly deficits. We do not have trillions of dollars to waste on green scams that do not significantly reduce CO2 emissions if the CO2 emissions to build the green scams and the reduced grid efficiency is included. Regardless, there is no CAGW problem to solve and if there was a CAGW problem, spending trillions of dollars on green scams would not solve it.
This is a good book if your are interested in the economic and social consequences of the Climate Change madness.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Global-Warming-Disaster/dp/1441110526

The Real Global Warming Disaster: Is the Obsession with “Climate Change” Turning Out to Be the Most Costly Scientific Blunder in History?
Booker focuses his attention on the mother of all environmental scares: global warming. This original book considers one of the most extraordinary scientific and political stories of our time: how in the 1980s a handful of scientists came to believe that mankind faced catastrophe from runaway global warming, and how today this has persuaded politicians to land us with what promises to be the biggest bill in history.
Christopher Booker interweaves the science of global warming with that of its growing political consequences, showing how just when the politicians are threatening to change our Western way of life beyond recognition, the scientific evidence behind the global warming theory is being challenged like never before.
The book exposes the myth that the global warming theory is supported by a ‘consensus of the world’s top climate scientists’. It shows how the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is run by a small group of ‘global warming’ zealots, who have repeatedly rigged evidence to support their theory. But the politicians, pushed by the media, have so fallen for its propaganda that, short of dramatic change, our Western world now faces an unprecedented disaster.

As the planet had warmed, we all assumed the cult of CAGW’s fundamental calculation (done more than 20 years ago by a half dozen specialists led by the founding father of CAGW, Hansen) of how much surface forcing a doubling of atmospheric CO2 will produce without ‘feedbacks’ is reasonable, in the right ball park. We all assumed the problem why the IPCC’s general circulation models (GCMs) predicted warming does not agree with measured warming is due to incorrect modeled cloud feedback, incorrect assumed water vapor amplification of the forcing, and delay in forcing response not the fundamental AGW calculation, itself.
The without ‘feedbacks’ cult of CAGW’s calculation (this is the calculation that predicted 1.2C to 1.4C surface warming for a doubling of atmospheric CO2) incorrectly held the lapse rate constant to determine (fudge) the estimated surface forcing for a doubling of atmospheric CO2. There is no scientific justification for fixing the lapse rate to calculate the no ‘feedback’ forcing of greenhouse gases.
Convection cooling is a physical fact not a theory and cannot be ignored in the without ‘feedbacks’ calculation. The change in forcing at the surface of the planet is less than the change in forcing higher in the atmosphere due to the increased convection cooling caused by greenhouse gases. We do not need to appeal to crank ‘science’ that there is no greenhouse gas forcing to destroy the cult of CAGW ‘scientific’ argument that there is a global warming crisis problem to solve.
There is a forcing change due to the increase in atmospheric CO2 however that forcing change is almost completely offset by the increase in convection. Due to the increased lapse rate (3% change) due to convection changes (the 3% change in the lapse rate, reduces the surface forcing by a factor of four, the forcing higher in the atmosphere remains the same) therefore warming at the surface of the planet is only 0.1C to 0.2C for a doubling of atmospheric CO2, while the warming at 5 km above the surface of the planet is 1C. As a warming of 0.1C to 0.2C is insufficient to cause any significant feedback change, the zero feedback change for a doubling of CO2 is ballpark the same as the with feedback response.
P.S.
In addition completely ignoring increased convection, the 1 dimension no ‘feedbacks’ warming calculation for a doubling of CO2 ignored the spectrum absorption overlap of water vapor and CO2. As the earth is 70% covered with water there is a great deal of water vapor in the lower atmosphere, particularly in the tropics. Redoing the calculation include the spectrum absorption overlap reduces the average surface forcing by a factor of 4 which also reduces the surface warming for a doubling of CO2 to around 0.2C.
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.ca/2015/07/collapse-of-agw-theory-of-ipcc-most.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B74u5vgGLaWoOEJhcUZBNzFBd3M/view?pli=1

Collapse of the Anthropogenic Warming Theory of the IPCC

4. Conclusions
In physical reality, the surface climate sensitivity is 0.1~0.2K from the energy budget of the earth and the surface radiative forcing of 1.1W.m2 for 2xCO2. Since there is no positive feedback from water vapor and ice albedo at the surface, the zero feedback climate sensitivity CS (FAH) is also 0.1~0.2K. A 1K warming occurs in responding to the radiative forcing of 3.7W/m2 for 2xCO2 at the effective radiation height of 5km. This gives the slightly reduced lapse rate of 6.3K/km from 6.5K/km as shown in Fig.2.

The modern anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory began from the one dimensional radiative convective equilibrium model (1DRCM) studies with the fixed absolute and relative humidity utilizing the fixed lapse rate assumption of 6.5K/km (FLRA) for 1xCO2 and 2xCO2 [Manabe & Strickler, 1964; Manabe & Wetherald, 1967; Hansen et al., 1981]. Table 1 shows the obtained climate sensitivities for 2xCO2 in these studies, in which the climate sensitivity with the fixed absolute humidity CS (FAH) is 1.2~1.3K [Hansen et al., 1984].
In the 1DRCM studies, the most basic assumption is the fixed lapse rate of 6.5K/km for 1xCO2 and 2xCO2. The lapse rate of 6.5K/km is defined for 1xCO2 in the U.S. Standard Atmosphere (1962) [Ramanathan & Coakley, 1978]. There is no guarantee, however, for the same lapse rate maintained in the perturbed atmosphere with 2xCO2 [Chylek & Kiehl, 1981; Sinha, 1995]. Therefore, the lapse rate for 2xCO2 is a parameter requiring a sensitivity analysis as shown in Fig.1.

The followings are supporting data (William: In peer reviewed papers, published more than 20 years ago that support the assertion that convection cooling increases when there is an increase in greenhouse gases and support the assertion that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 will cause surface warming of less than 0.3C) for the Kimoto lapse rate theory above.
(A) Kiehl & Ramanathan (1982) shows the following radiative forcing for 2xCO2.
Radiative forcing at the tropopause: 3.7W/m2.
Radiative forcing at the surface: 0.55~1.56W/m2 (averaged 1.1W/m2).
This denies the FLRA giving the uniform warming throughout the troposphere in
the 1DRCM and the 3DGCMs studies.
(B) Newell & Dopplick (1979) obtained a climate sensitivity of 0.24K considering the
evaporation cooling from the surface of the ocean.
(C) Ramanathan (1981) shows the surface temperature increase of 0.17K with the
direct heating of 1.2W/m2 for 2xCO2 at the surface.

Latitude
September 21, 2015 6:49 am

So naturally, President Obama, Pope Francis, the European Commission, United Nations, and many poor countries are obsessed with – climate change!…
Because it’s a lot less controversial than addressing real problems…
…like some “very old cultures” and their customs
taking the easy way out
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=0

Resourceguy
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2015 6:57 am

I think they are using a new translation of the Bible that substitutes fact checkers for tax collectors in the scriptures.

Latitude
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2015 7:46 am

I think it’s just more of “LOOK a squirrel”

Silver ralph
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2015 10:46 am

I always liked the King James version, which called them ‘publicans’ (after the Latin). I always had this vision of JC with his feet up in a bar, knocking back a Carlesberg. Well, he was always mocked as being a bit of a drunkard.

Resourceguy
September 21, 2015 6:55 am

This is a good update summary of the Catholic Church in America.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/church-grapples-with-growth-and-decline-1442750401

Alba
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2015 7:03 am

Unfortunately the WSJ has a paywall or other forms of obstruction. Could you give us an extract so we can get an idea what the article is saying?

Greg Woods
Reply to  Alba
September 21, 2015 9:10 am

Google the title of the article, It should come up.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Alba
September 21, 2015 10:20 am

Get a subscription. It’s the last bastion of reasonable reporting and investigative reporting for thinking people.

Alba
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 22, 2015 5:57 am

Greg: Thanks for the helpful suggestion. That worked fine. But what’s the point of a paywall if you can read the articles free on somebody else’s website?
Resourceguy: For residents of the USA a subscription may be worthwhile although your assessment of the WSJ might just be a statement that their views agree with yours for all I know. However, I live in the UK so a subscription to an American newspaper would, by and large, be a bit of a waste of money.
As for the actual article I would say that it gives a description of one aspect of the Catholic Church in the USA but it’s hardly a summary of the situation as a whole. For example it says nothing about how the Church is facing up to the challenge of losing members to Protestant denominations and sects nor about the secular challenges facing the Church. Nor about the threat from within the Church by people who want to undermine it, except for a one-line comment about a group calling themselves ‘Dignity Washington’.

Alba
Reply to  Alba
September 22, 2015 6:17 am

The article in the WSJ may well be very accurate but apparently the media in the USA have been responsible for some real howlers when reporting on religious matters.
After the funeral of Pope John Paul II, the International Herald Tribune described his vestments and added: “Tucked under his left arm was the silver staff, called the crow’s ear, that he had carried in public.” Not long ago, Newsweek magazine covered Virginia’s Liberty University debate team, ranked No. 1 in the nation. The Rev. Jerry Falwell explained that his team was involved in a unique kind of ministry to the culture. Alas, he used a biblical metaphor that led to this correction: “Newsweek misquoted Falwell as referring to ‘assault ministry.’ In fact, Falwell was referring to ‘a salt ministry’ — a reference to Matthew 5:13, where Jesus says, ‘Ye are the salt of the earth.’ We regret the error.”
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-06-25-faith-edit_x.htm
So it seems that many journalists are as ignorant when reporting on religion as they are when reporting on climate.

September 21, 2015 7:11 am

Whatever you do don’t call The POTUS a muslim even if he want to change the mission of NASA to muslim outreach.

Marcus
Reply to  tomwtrevor
September 21, 2015 8:10 am

That was the day I lost ALL respect for NASA !!!!

Luke
September 21, 2015 7:13 am

This refugee crisis is the result of climate change. From an article in the Inquisitor.
“Between the years of 2006 and 2011, Syria was hit by a series of devastating droughts. Time reports that the extended period of drought resulted in rural populations moving into urban areas as failed crops led to an increase in poverty.
The extended drought was, according to a study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the worst that Syria has seen in modern times. And according to The New York Times, scientists blame climate change.
Martin Hoerling, from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told The New York Times that the study lined up with his own work in demonstrating a long drying trend in the region caused by climate change.”
The sooner we begin to reduce C02 emissions the better.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2419759/did-climate-change-create-the-syrian-refugee-crisis/#veFfGOeBXDxKJFvW.99

Latitude
Reply to  Luke
September 21, 2015 7:26 am
Marcus
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2015 8:14 am

Are you really expecting an ” Eco=terrorist ” to care about reality and facts ????

Catcracking
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2015 12:35 pm

Latitude,
Thanks for the graph,
you always come up with real data to make a fool out of a poster who makes things up or believes the left wing lies

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2015 4:19 pm

We seem to waste our efforts to awaken him from the meme. I suspect he is merely a drive-by poster preaching the “overwhelming opinion” of the media and gov’t fed higher ed.

Luke
Reply to  Latitude
September 22, 2015 11:27 am

Not sure where you got your data but it supports the assertion that agricultural production in 2008 was well below normal. Here is the figure from the PNAS paper.
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3241/F1.large.jpg
And the link to the paper.
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3241.abstract

KTM
Reply to  Luke
September 21, 2015 8:17 am

80+% of the so-called “Syrian refugees” aren’t even from Syria!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html
The ‘border crisis’ is not on the Syrian border, it’s on the Hungary/Serbia border. Go check an atlas, this Hungary/Syria border is ~1000 miles from the war in Syria.
Why aren’t Americans all fleeing the violence in Syria? It’s only a few thousand miles away, but apparently distance is irrelevant.
The President of Hungary has declared Serbia to be a safe country for those fleeing war, but the refugees don’t want to stay in Serbia, they want to move on to the EU or the US or any other country that will give them handouts and enrich their lives.

MarkW
Reply to  KTM
September 21, 2015 12:41 pm

More people have fled Syria, than ever lived in Syria.

Reply to  KTM
September 21, 2015 11:50 pm

Do you mean a sort of reversal of the concept of a “homeland” ,for people ( the majority of whose ancestors never lived there in the first place), to “return to” after thousands of years?”

Scott
Reply to  Luke
September 21, 2015 8:28 am

Why?

Silver ralph
Reply to  Luke
September 21, 2015 10:57 am

Errr, no.
Your theory is falsified by the 1981 uprising that was brutally put down by Assad’s father. Look up the Hamma massacre. So we have identical uprisings, thirty years apart. Ergo, they cannot be caused by modern so-called Global Warming.
We have been through this before. The uprisings happened, because Assad’s Alawites are a despised and much persecuted minority, because they are half Christian. Having been put into power by the French, the Alawite, quite reasonably in my view, don’t want to go back to being a persecuted minority living in the gutters. So they are hanging on for grim death (or grim life). And you will notice that the Syriac Christians are backing Assad all the way, because they are in the same boat.
And if anyone criticises Assad and his Alawites, just think of them as being the Yazidi with guns. Would anyone complain, if the Yazidi got some guns and defended themselves? Well that is what Assad is doing. You cannot sympathise with the Yazidi, and want to help them, and then simultaneously condemn Assad for doing exactly what you want the Yazidi to do.
Ralph

rw
Reply to  Luke
September 21, 2015 12:38 pm

Luke,
You really should put a /sarc tag on stuff like this when you post it (You are being sarcastic, aren’t you? – If not, I can’t wait to see your analysis of Boko Haram.)

cmarrou
September 21, 2015 7:16 am

My favorite part of the climate change malarkey is that Canada is at the forefront of the fight to keep the climate from changing. If any country on earth could benefit from being a few degrees warmer…

Gary Pearse
Reply to  cmarrou
September 21, 2015 8:02 am

You are out of touch – Harper is with Russia, China and India – they say things (federally) but they aren’t doing anything to kill their own economic strength – oil and gas. The opposition would hand the country over to the UN in a trice, though. Canadian are very insulated from what is going on in world and they are anxious to get rid of the conservatives whom they only call on to rescue them from the idiocies of the “wealth distributors” when times are tough.

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