Quote of the week: Obama's Climate Claim in Alaska

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As commenter “Bad Andrew” says:

You have got to do a post on this. Meanwhile, other countries laugh:

Obama Rebuffed As Superpowers Refuse To Sign Arctic Climate Agreement

On Sunday and Monday, foreign ministers and other international leaders met in Anchorage, Alaska to attend the Conference on Global Leadership in the Arctic. As a sign of the importance the United States placed on the Alaska forum, President Barack Obama attended. He used the conference as a platform for urging swifter action to combat climate change. After the conference, the representatives of the Arctic Council members signed a joint statement affirming “our commitment to take urgent action to slow the pace of warming in the Arctic.” China said that it needed more time to review the document before signing. But RT had a different take, saying that China and India “opted not to sign the document” because “reducing emissions entails huge expenditure and loss of economic effectiveness.” The failure to come to an agreement at the GLACIER conference sends a troubling signal for the Paris summit, and for U.S.-China cooperation in general. –Shannon Tiezzi, The Diplomat, 1 September 2015

The US-led GLACIER environmental conference in Anchorage ended with a joint declaration calling for more international action to tackle climate change. But Russia (the world’s leading oil and gas producer), China (the world largest producer of goods), and India with its huge emerging economy opted not to sign the document, however nonbinding it might appear. For China and India reducing emissions entails huge expenditure and loss of economic effectiveness, and for Russia the upcoming environmental deal brings additional costs to the oil and gas extraction industries. Moscow is boosting Russia’s presence in the Arctic, including militarily, for at least two reasons: future hydrocarbons extraction and the Northern Sea Route, a much shorter way from Asia to Europe, which could soon be operable year-around because of less ice in the Arctic Ocean. —Russia Today, 1 September 2015

While visiting Alaska and becoming the first American president to enter the Arctic Circle, President Obama announced Tuesday he would speed up the acquisition of icebreakers to help the U.S. Coast Guard navigate an area that Russia and China increasingly see as a new frontier. The announcement is the latest power play in the Arctic north, where melting ice has led to a race for resources and access. Forty percent of the world’s oil and natural gas reserves lie under the Arctic. Melting ice also would lead to new shipping routes, and Russia wants to establish a kind of Suez Canal which it controls. More than a Cold War, Russia may be preparing for an Ice War, and the Pentagon is taking note.  –Jennifer Griffin, Fox News, 2 September 2015

 

The quote from Obama:

“If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century ”

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Hivemind
September 3, 2015 1:11 am

“If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century ”
Where do you get such complete crap as this? No study at all is predicting this.

waterside4
September 3, 2015 9:09 am

As usual I am a bit late to the party.
My little contribution owes its existence to writer Mike Phillips and singer Johnny Horton – that great old song North to Alaska
Way up North (North to Alaska)
Way up North (North to Alaska)
North to Alaska
The warming scam is on.
Big Bam left Seattle
In the year of naught fifteen
With Mrs Heinzes partner
To paint Alaska green.
They crossed the Yukon River
And found it mighty cold
There was no global warming
Despite their prayers to Rome.
The Pres renamed the mountain
And the valleys down below
He said to his team of flunkies
Get rid of that stupid snow.
With the warming lies a-running wild
They could not see the sun
The glaciers not melting
Poley bears having fun.
Where rivers are winding
Big icebergs they’re finding
North to Alaska
Go North the scam is on.
The Barok turned to Heinzie
And held his freezing hand
“You know how much I like you
But I love Mikey Mann”
I’d trade all the black gold
That’s buried in this land
For just one night of ecstasy
At little Mikey’s hand.
But a man needs a hockey stick
To play with all the time
He has no time for romance
His puck is on his mind.
Where rivers are winding
Big icebergs they’re finding
North to Alaska
Go North the scam is on.
Way up North (North to Alaska)
etc etc etc.

Resourceguy
September 3, 2015 11:19 am

Did he visit the Jimmy Carter pipeline?

David Cage
September 3, 2015 11:25 am

…..President Obama announced Tuesday he would speed up the acquisition of icebreakers to help the U.S. Coast Guard navigate an area that Russia and China increasingly see as a new frontier. …..

How can these possibly help if the ice disappeared last year as predicted by the scientists. Surely he is imagining there is ice or the scientists are a load of incompetents who should not be listened to.

Steve P
September 3, 2015 1:21 pm

Michael Jankowski
September 2, 2015 at 9:46 am
“Our US debt is rising much more dangerously. What is he doing about that?”
MarkW
September 2, 2015 at 10:30 am
“In 6 years, he has accumulated more debt than all the preceding presidents combined.
That’s what he’s doing about it.”

Michael, Mark, I think you’ll find that much of the current national debt results from servicing interest on the debt accumulated under R Reagan, and the Bushes:
“Reagan took some economics in college, and he really did want to reduce the debt. But he got snookered by some Wall Street “economists” (mostly political journalists) who told him he could have his cake and eat it too. They came up with the brand-new theory, mentioned above, that said the government can collect more money by reducing taxes. Wouldn’t that be nice! That’s the supply-side economics that George H. W. Bush called Voodoo*.
[…]
So we will ask, “What if Reagan and the Bushes had balanced their own budgets?” And what if Clinton and Obama had taxed the same and spent the same as they actually did?
The answer is that the National Debt would now be lower by $13.5 trillion! So that’s the Republican National Debt — according to their own standard of balanced budgets.
[…]
They go like this: When Reagan took office the debt was $1 trillion. When he left it was $2.86 trillion. So $1.86 trillion for him. Then Bush-I added $1.55 trillion. Total so far: $3.4 trillion. Then Clinton took over.
Now the national debt is like a mortgage, and so the bigger it is, the more interest must be paid on it. Without the extra Reagan-Bush $3.4 trillion, there would have been a few hundred billion less in interest on the debt every year under Clinton. That interest adds another $2.3 trillion to the Reagan-Bush debt. Then Bush II increased it by $6.1 trillion to $11.8 trillion. And interest on that has been increasing the debt under Obama. The total Reagan-Bushes debt is now $13.5 trillion.”

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
*Note that GHW Bush denied he ever used the term “voodoo economics:” He also claimed to be “out of the loop” on the Iran-contra scandal, but that’s another story.
http://archives.nbclearn.com/portal/site/k-12/flatview?cuecard=33292
Vice President George Bush was only ‘kidding’ reporters when he denied branding Ronald Reagan’s economic proposals ‘voodoo economics’ during the 1980 campaign, a Bush spokesman said Wednesday.
[…]
But Wednesday night, NBC News broadcast film of Bush making the statement at Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh on April 10, 1980.
[…]
In regard to Reagan’s economic platform, Bush said at that time, ‘So, what I’m saying is that it just isn’t going to work. And, it’s very interesting, who invented this type of what I call a voodoo economic policy is Art Laffer, a California economist …’

http://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/02/10/Vice-President-George-Bush-was-only-kidding-reporters-when/3128382165200/
KCET broadcast Eugene Jarecki’s documentary “Reagan” last night, so much of this material about “voodoo economics” is fresh in my mind, although here I’ve had to rely on others to set the record straight.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1822382/
Streaming version of “Reagan” is currently available for LA county residents on KCET website. Highly recommended.
It’s way past time to see through the smoke and mirrors hooray for my time polarized mumbo jumbo that is keeping us divided, folks. Remember: Divide and conquer.
United we stand; divided we fall. ‘Just sayin’.

Steve P
Reply to  Steve P
September 3, 2015 9:33 pm

erratum: s/b…hooray for my team…
~
Link to KCET “Reagan” documentary:
http://www.kcet.org/shows/link_voices/web-extras/watch-documentary-reagan.html
“Streaming for this program is restricted to KCET’s Greater Los Angeles service area.
“Reagan” will be streaming online for two weeks from September 2 to 16.”

James at 48
September 4, 2015 11:47 am

Just a note. We might have hit the annual minimum for NH sea ice. I couch it as “might” given the possibility of a dead cat bounce. That having been written air temp has been well below freezing for weeks now and there are no major storms breaking up the pack or blowing it into the Greenland Strait.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  James at 48
September 4, 2015 1:55 pm

No, we ‘bounced” off of a low point back on August 20, then another on August 30 – September 1, but we appear to be more-or-less on-track towards our annual yearly low point between September 6 and September 22. Most recent years have been at minimum around September 12-16. The long-term average is slightly earlier though, so there is precedent for earlier Arctic sea ice minimum.
Following is from Cryosphere, Univ of Illinois, for Arctic sea ice AREA (not Sea Ice Extents!).

Date.decimal    Date     Anom.   Area   Avg.Area Date.cal        %      Lat.    W/m^2  MWattsxArea
                Julian   Mkm^2  Mkm^2   Mkm^2                    of avg
2015.6110	224.0	-1.718	3.670	5.388	12-Aug-15	-31.9%	80.3	1084	1862
2015.6136	225.0	-1.752	3.587	5.338	13-Aug-15	-32.8%	80.4	1056	1850
2015.6165	226.0	-1.715	3.581	5.296	14-Aug-15	-32.4%	80.4	1034	1774
2015.6191	227.0	-1.687	3.570	5.257	15-Aug-15	-32.1%	80.4	1012	1707
2015.6219	228.0	-1.626	3.612	5.239	16-Aug-15	-31.0%	80.3	995	1618
2015.6246	229.0	-1.609	3.595	5.204	17-Aug-15	-30.9%	80.4	967	1556
2015.6274	230.0	-1.657	3.511	5.168	18-Aug-15	-32.1%	80.5	938	1554
2015.6301	231.0	-1.687	3.448	5.135	19-Aug-15	-32.9%	80.6	910	1535
2015.6329	232.0	-1.719	3.394	5.112	20-Aug-15	-33.6%	80.6	886	1523
2015.6356	233.0	-1.663	3.438	5.101	21-Aug-15	-32.6%	80.6	863	1435
2015.6383	234.0	-1.566	3.528	5.094	22-Aug-15	-30.8%	80.5	845	1324
2015.6411	235.0	-1.505	3.572	5.077	23-Aug-15	-29.6%	80.4	827	1245
2015.6438	236.0	-1.442	3.617	5.059	24-Aug-15	-28.5%	80.3	809	1166
2015.6466	237.0	-1.440	3.598	5.038	25-Aug-15	-28.6%	80.4	778	1121
2015.6493	238.0	-1.421	3.578	4.999	26-Aug-15	-28.4%	80.4	753	1070
2015.6521	239.0	-1.431	3.543	4.975	27-Aug-15	-28.8%	80.4	727	1040
2015.6548	240.0	-1.433	3.497	4.930	28-Aug-15	-29.1%	80.5	695	996
2015.6576	241.0	-1.488	3.410	4.898	29-Aug-15	-30.4%	80.6	662	985
2015.6603	242.0	-1.507	3.380	4.886	30-Aug-15	-30.8%	80.7	629	948
2015.6630	243.0	-1.514	3.348	4.862	31-Aug-15	-31.1%	80.7	602	911
2015.6658	244.0	-1.514	3.326	4.840	01-Sep-15	-31.3%	80.7	575	871
2015.6685	245.0	-1.485	3.323	4.807	02-Sep-15	-30.9%	80.7	548	814
2015.6713	246.0	-1.573	3.215	4.789	03-Sep-15	-32.9%	80.9	508	799