Quote of the week: Obama's Climate Claim in Alaska

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As commenter “Bad Andrew” says:

You have got to do a post on this. Meanwhile, other countries laugh:

Obama Rebuffed As Superpowers Refuse To Sign Arctic Climate Agreement

On Sunday and Monday, foreign ministers and other international leaders met in Anchorage, Alaska to attend the Conference on Global Leadership in the Arctic. As a sign of the importance the United States placed on the Alaska forum, President Barack Obama attended. He used the conference as a platform for urging swifter action to combat climate change. After the conference, the representatives of the Arctic Council members signed a joint statement affirming “our commitment to take urgent action to slow the pace of warming in the Arctic.” China said that it needed more time to review the document before signing. But RT had a different take, saying that China and India “opted not to sign the document” because “reducing emissions entails huge expenditure and loss of economic effectiveness.” The failure to come to an agreement at the GLACIER conference sends a troubling signal for the Paris summit, and for U.S.-China cooperation in general. –Shannon Tiezzi, The Diplomat, 1 September 2015

The US-led GLACIER environmental conference in Anchorage ended with a joint declaration calling for more international action to tackle climate change. But Russia (the world’s leading oil and gas producer), China (the world largest producer of goods), and India with its huge emerging economy opted not to sign the document, however nonbinding it might appear. For China and India reducing emissions entails huge expenditure and loss of economic effectiveness, and for Russia the upcoming environmental deal brings additional costs to the oil and gas extraction industries. Moscow is boosting Russia’s presence in the Arctic, including militarily, for at least two reasons: future hydrocarbons extraction and the Northern Sea Route, a much shorter way from Asia to Europe, which could soon be operable year-around because of less ice in the Arctic Ocean. —Russia Today, 1 September 2015

While visiting Alaska and becoming the first American president to enter the Arctic Circle, President Obama announced Tuesday he would speed up the acquisition of icebreakers to help the U.S. Coast Guard navigate an area that Russia and China increasingly see as a new frontier. The announcement is the latest power play in the Arctic north, where melting ice has led to a race for resources and access. Forty percent of the world’s oil and natural gas reserves lie under the Arctic. Melting ice also would lead to new shipping routes, and Russia wants to establish a kind of Suez Canal which it controls. More than a Cold War, Russia may be preparing for an Ice War, and the Pentagon is taking note.  –Jennifer Griffin, Fox News, 2 September 2015

 

The quote from Obama:

“If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century ”

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Reg Nelson
September 2, 2015 9:05 am

Here’s my quote of the day:
From yet another hottest year ever article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/climate-change-2015-will-be-the-hottest-year-on-record-by-a-mile-experts-say-10477138.html
“It’s going to be so far ahead of the other record year that it’s going to be beyond the error range,” said Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in Norwich.
“What’s important is not so much the land but the ocean data. The oceans have really picked up in the last 12 months or so,” Professor Jones said.
————-
Technically, yes this true. However, the “pick up” in the oceans over the last twelve months is primarily due to adjustments, not measurements.

MarkW
Reply to  Reg Nelson
September 2, 2015 10:36 am

With almost half the year yet to go, they know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the temperature number for the whole year is going to be.
No doubt because they have already generated the data for the rest of the year.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Reg Nelson
September 2, 2015 11:00 am

“Pay no attention to that El Nino behind the curtain!”

Bruce Cobb
September 2, 2015 9:08 am

We need to break the ice in order to “save” it.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 2, 2015 11:03 am

No, that’s the economy you mean.

Kevin Kilty
September 2, 2015 9:09 am

“The announcement is the latest power play in the Arctic north, where melting ice has led to a race for resources and access. Forty percent of the world’s oil and natural gas reserves lie under the Arctic….”
Who writes this stuff? The exploration for energy resources is not impelled by melting ice, but rather by demand for resources a decade or so hence.

Dave in Canmore
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
September 2, 2015 12:49 pm

“Who writes this stuff?” People with no experience in the real world. People whose egos allow them to imagine that their guesses are probably how the world is. People whose egos do not require them to check basic facts or educate themselves in the areas they write about. People who lack curiosity to second guess the first bit of noise that comes across their desk. People who can not fathom that in fact they are not the brightest person in the room but rather the last person in the room to figure it out. In other words, half of the staff writers for every new outlet.
/rant off

September 2, 2015 9:14 am

Well, even if it were true, which it isn’t, doesn’t Alaska have other things to worry about besides the fact that it might be slightly warmer there some day? Wouldn’t that be good news?

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Cardin Drake
September 2, 2015 9:11 pm

Currently, the Alaskans are worried about the recent drop in the price of oil.

September 2, 2015 9:26 am

Truly amazing China and India did not sign the non binding agreement? How could any news source not count that as an epic failure of presidential diplomacy?

Bartemis
September 2, 2015 9:41 am

Again, it’s not a question of whether the Earth has warmed or not. It has. It is a question of whether we have anything to do with it. We don’t.
The most likely outlook for the next 30 years is a continuation of the past, which means a modest long term trend in warmth superimposed with a ~60 year cyclicality. Temperatures will likely stay in their present range, or dip slightly, for the next 20 years, at which point they will accelerate upward again until the next downturn. It’s a long term pattern that was laid in over a century ago, well before rising CO2 could have established it.
Trying to curtail it by sacrificing our standard of living is like nothing so much as sacrificing maidens to appease the rain gods. The climate always changes. Human nature, not so much. We are still primitives in grass skirts, mindlessly following the shamans out of fear.

Steve P
Reply to  Bartemis
September 2, 2015 10:32 am

Yes, and the further question is whether or not we have anything to fear from a slightly warmer Earth. We don’t.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve P
September 2, 2015 10:37 am

More CO2 in the atmosphere is great for plants, and therefore great for anything that eats plants. Like us.

MHman
September 2, 2015 9:42 am

Recent open access paper finds warming of only 1 degree C at Sitka over the last century. Figure 7 doesn’t show any recent increase in warming.
http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs00704-015-1542-7.pdf

John F. Hultquist
September 2, 2015 9:48 am

Why do we need a new fleet of Ice Breakers?
12 degrees, really?

Hugh
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
September 2, 2015 12:03 pm

The ice will be gone by September 2015, so that’s why the haste with ice breakers.

TinyCO2
September 2, 2015 9:56 am

I believe Obama also said “The deniers are increasingly alone, on their own shrinking island”. With all those nations that refuse to sign on the dotted line, it looks like our shrinking island is very crowded and not small at all.

Hugh
Reply to  TinyCO2
September 2, 2015 12:07 pm

The island has at well over two thousand million inhabitants.
Surely Obama travelled by train to Alaska?

Mike
September 2, 2015 10:00 am

“If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century ”
What degrees ? Trust politician to make a pseudo-scientific claim without stating the units that the claim is made in.
3 deg F is about 1.7 deg C
1.7 deg C in a hundred years is not going to be keeping the polar bears awake at night.
Projected by whom?
One of the other tell-tale signs of science is citing a reference when referring to a previously established result.
One of the tell-signs of a lying politician is not doing so.
No wonder that China , Russia and India where suitably unimpressed.

Mike
Reply to  Mike
September 2, 2015 10:01 am

3 degrees is half of six which allows for current over-estimation by climate models.

David Smith
September 2, 2015 10:07 am

…where melting ice has led to a race for resources and access. Forty percent of the world’s oil and natural gas reserves lie under the Arctic. Melting ice also would lead to new shipping routes,

Sounds like melting ice would be a good thing, if you ask me. But then I’m not a member of Greenpeas, so what would I know.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  David Smith
September 2, 2015 10:33 am

Melting ice a good thing? Oh, but think of the poor seals polar bears.
/s << yes, that is a sarc tag.

MarkW
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 10:38 am

Melting ice dilutes your drink. Which is not good.

David Smith
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 3:08 pm

That’s why I drink my gin ‘n’ tonics so damn fast. It’s to stop the ice melting to quickly…

David Smith
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 3:10 pm

‘too quickly’.
All those GnT’s must have stopped me being able to splel porplery

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 9:33 pm

About melting ice cubes and drinks; Search for
‘ non melting ice cubes ‘
also known as rocks

September 2, 2015 10:08 am

Didn’t Willis write about Kotzebue, the village that Obama will visit claiming that it is being affected by “climate Change? I couldn’t find it in a WUWT search.

rogerknights
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
September 2, 2015 10:35 am
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
September 2, 2015 10:37 am

Made me think of this piece on Shishmaref Village in Alaska. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/02/the-sixth-first-climate-refugees/

MarkW
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
September 2, 2015 10:39 am

Is Kotzebue missing it’s village idiot?

Bubba Cow
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
September 2, 2015 10:55 am
MarkW
September 2, 2015 10:23 am

“If we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century ”
You act like that would be a bad thing?

Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 10:38 am

I scanned a few online articles about Obama’s visit to Alaska and his remarks during his visit. The comment sections were overwhelmingly derisive of POTUS remarks and “Climate Change” in general. (Some troll can step in and give us an “oh, but- look at the Guardian comments…” or some such.)
The fact that POTUS no longer says “Global Warming”, but uses “Climate Change” instead, should tell a thinking person all they need to know.

Djozar
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 2, 2015 11:58 am

If you can’t verify the results, you define a new term to cover all your bases. This way they can have catastrophic global cooling as well if it suits the political dialogue.

CarlF
September 2, 2015 10:45 am

We (the US) has only two icebreakers in service. There were a couple more but for some reason they were retired. Russia has 41. The justification for not building more, as I recall, was that they would not be needed because Arctic ice would soon be a thing only in our memories. Oops.

mairon62
September 2, 2015 10:48 am

So, when is this “warming” going to start? They’re saying between .7F – 1.4F per decade to hit 6F-12F by the end of the century.

September 2, 2015 10:49 am

New icebreakers are needed, but not because of warming.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Slywolfe
September 2, 2015 11:00 am

No, we can just rent them from Russia like we do for seats on board the manned launches to the space station.

September 2, 2015 10:51 am

Political reaction to no global warming for almost 20 years:
http://www.moonbattery.com/quadruplets.jpg
And the motive behind the scare:
http://drtimball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/jo-nova-cartoon.jpg

Steve P
September 2, 2015 11:18 am

The full video and transcript of Pres. Obama’s Aug 31, 2015 GLACIER speech is available at the link below, courtesy of the Alaska Dispatch News, which reports it’s currently partly cloudy, and 48°F in Anchorage:
https://www.adn.com/article/20150831/full-transcript-obama-speaks-glacier-alaska
“Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average.”
No word on where on Earth temperatures are falling about twice as fast as the global average – just to keep that ol’ global average temperature honest, and all – but it must be somewhere (my love).
“I had a chance to meet with some Native peoples before I came in here, and they described for me villages that are slipping into the sea, and the changes that are taking place — changing migratory patterns; the changing fauna so that what used to feed the animals that they, in turn, would hunt or fish beginning to vanish. (sic) It’s urgent for them today. But that is the future for all of us if we don’t take care.”
Yep; anytime something begins to vanish, you really need to pay attention.
OK. Well, before Max Photon beats me to it, I’m going to slip into my virtual DJ booth, and cue up a little tune:

“North to Alaska” by the incomparable Johnny Horton, killed by a drunk driver in 1960.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Steve P
September 2, 2015 11:47 am

no worries about the loss of food animals… the PC Police have said they need to go vegan anyway….
; sarc>

Richard Keen
Reply to  Steve P
September 2, 2015 12:15 pm

“Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average.”
Well, since the global average hasn’t warmed in nearly 20 years, one could say
“Arctic temperatures are rising ten million times faster than the global average.”
Or cooling.
For more on the complex math of all this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuaG-TCpbtw
“I’m not tryin’ to be your hero,
‘Cause that zero is too cold for me, Brrr”

Richard Keen
Reply to  Richard Keen
September 2, 2015 12:27 pm

Or…

Reply to  Steve P
September 2, 2015 3:00 pm

Steve P,
That brings back memories of my high school days. Thanks.

Reply to  dbstealey
September 2, 2015 3:16 pm

Thanks Richard Keen, too.
‘I’m a soldier in the war on poverty’, LOL!
And for our climate alarmist friends, please just lighten up:

CR Carlson
September 2, 2015 11:23 am

Wondering how the President’s survival outing with Bear Grylls, who always had a support team tagging along, is going? Pay no attention to the 100 Secret Service agents behind those trees, it’s real survival I tell ya.

Reply to  CR Carlson
September 2, 2015 12:18 pm

fitting that he would do a ‘reality’ TV show
his politics have the same relationship to facts
the ‘reality’ TV has to reality

Reply to  rebelronin
September 2, 2015 12:27 pm

please read … that ‘reality’ TV has to reality

NW sage
Reply to  CR Carlson
September 2, 2015 5:44 pm

If it is really a survival outing then maybe he won’t survive? Perhaps there is hope?

Tom O
September 2, 2015 11:25 am

There is a lot of belief here, I think, that Barack Obama is not too bright. I have no way of knowing for sure if that is true since I would suspect that his IQ test scores, like all the rest of his school records are sealed. But I would like to say one thing about him. We really have no idea what is on his mind or what he truly thinks. The only clues we have are what someone projects up on the teleprompters. In other words, what he says may very well not even come close to what he believes. My ex-wife could type reports and letters from transcriptions and had not a clue to what she typed. I suspect that Obama can stand there and read the teleprompter and never miss a word, and not have a clue as to what he says.

Evan Jones
Editor
Reply to  Tom O
September 2, 2015 4:05 pm

From what i understand, his IQ is (allegedly) a point or two higher than mine (i.e., ~15 points lower than Reagan’s).

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Tom O
September 2, 2015 9:32 pm

He’s a puppet with a bully pulpit.

ferd berple
September 2, 2015 11:33 am

cold winds from Alaska meeting warm air from the Pacific; 4 rotating storms the result. Is the Pacific starting to dump the heat?
http://earth.nullschool.net/#2015/09/02/1800Z/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-143.13,26.39,434

Resourceguy
September 2, 2015 11:43 am

It it was 100 degree change on the index card of talking points from NRDC and GreenPeace, Dear Leader would recite it.

September 2, 2015 11:47 am

O certainly lacks engineering science skill. If he didn’t, he might grasp the proof that CO2 has no effect on climate and end his misguided war on fossil fuels. The proof and identification of the two factors that do cause reported average global temperature change (sunspot number is the only independent variable) are at http://agwunveiled.blogspot.com (now with 5-year running-average smoothing of measured average global temperature (AGT), the near-perfect explanation of AGT since before 1900; R^2 = 0.97+). Use of V2 SSN changed some coefficients but had no significant effect on R^2.

Warren Latham
September 2, 2015 11:49 am

Reference: “The US-led GLACIER environmental conference in Anchorage ended with a joint declaration calling for more international action to tackle climate change. But Russia (the world’s leading oil and gas producer), China (the world largest producer of goods), and India with its huge emerging economy opted not to sign the document, however nonbinding it might appear.” (Copied from the report).
So … SOMEONE must have orchestrated this so-called “Conference on Global Leadership in the Arctic” eh ?
Well, strike me down somewhat melted but … exactly WHO will or was or would be “leader” of the Arctic ?
Does he or she know the name of the “leader” of the “Arctic”, or of the Pacific (ocean) or the Indian (ocean) or even the Atlantic (ocean) ?
INDIA, according to the report, seems to be included in that “conference”: now THAT is most peculiar !
Unless I am very much mistaken, India is NOT ACTUALLY connected to the “ARCTIC” at all (at this time) so WHY, I wonder, should that country be even involved in such a meeting ? It’s all very strange.
It’s all (as we say here in Britain) complete BOLLOCKS, or NONSENSE, CODSWALLOP … the parrot is most definitely deceased, not breathing, dead !