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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The new British Energy and Climate Change Secretary Amber Rudd’s plan to win over prominent climate skeptics like Lord Lawson, by setting up a meeting between skeptics and the Royal Society, has dramatically backfired, after the Royal Society admitted that the pause would have to continue for another 50 years, before they admit they are wrong.
According to Breitbart;
“We pinned them down on this hiatus… they were arguing that yes, there might have been a hiatus, but warming might be going into the ocean, or it could be due to volcanic activity. So we asked at what point would you begin to accept there had been no warming. If there is no warming for five years, or ten years?
“Finally they conceded they would wait fifty years.
“We asked would that be fifty years from now, or fifty years from 1997, when the hiatus started? They said they wouldn’t change their mind for fifty years from now.
The bitterly cold ocean depths have the thermal capacity to absorb hundreds, maybe thousands of years of global warming, even at levels of global warming predicted by alarmist models. If the predicted heat is missing, because it is readily absorbed by the ocean depths, I would suggest claims by the Royal Society that global warming is an urgent problem are already untenable.
…by then those who know now we are wrong will have died. In the meantime, “Damn the pause! Full greed ahead!”
Full greed ahead – good one! 🙂
LMAO. “Damn the pause! Full greed ahead!”
Great one. I’m going to use it and pay you residuals at your favorite coffee shop!
Alas! I don’t visit coffee shops.
Just sign over one of the Big Oil checks we all get and we’ll be square. 😎
So, 50 years from now, having wasted $trillions on a non-problem, resulting in many millions of deaths they’d say “oops”, we were wrong. How comforting.
Yeah – where is their much vaunted Precautionary Principle when ya need it?
“might be”, “could be” – this isn’t science! Pigs might fly.
Strange how they are willing to believe CAGW after only a few years but to accept they are wrong, we have to wait another 50 years on top of the current 20 years.
The Royal Society: The Home of Pseudo-science!!!!
How pathetic!
But during those “few years” there have been adjustments to the past 150 years. So of course they have to wait. In 50 years many of us didn’t just die, we froze to death!
(To keep the anti-smoking crowd happy, they say some of us also smoked Kools.)
These members of the Royal Society are behaving like petulant children told they cannot have unlimited ice cream. They stamp their feet and fold their arms and shout that they’ll hold their breath for 50 years. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Translation: We are going to wait until long after we are dead, before we would admit that we were wrong.
Btw, how old was the guy who said this?
Passive-agressive a-holes. I can just imagine them uttering their sneeringly-toned pronouncement, folding their arms, and turning their backs.
With this kind of admission, is there any doubt these folks wouldn’t hesitate for a second to alter current and past data for the sake of “the cause” ?
Good point.
If we were dealing with a scientific question, then the length of time of no warming would have some meaning, but since this is a religion/ideology, time is irrelevant
fifty years from now, a number pulled straight out of the air for oddly for the RS it has no scientific basis .
However it is ‘useful ‘ in that none for those making these BS claims will will be in their profession to be asked why they got it so wrong and secondly most will be dead and so in no position to have to face up to their poor behaviour and worst professional pratice.
I wonder how these ‘honourable members ‘ would take this type of claim coming from anyone else has to how to define ‘proof’
Look Mum! The Royal Society has no clothes!
ICPP!
ICPP
superb!
Manfred-
They are ‘worried’ because if the truth comes out their gravy train will run out of track.
ResourceGuy:
Glo-‘bull’ Cooling (remember the ’70’s?) / Glo-‘bull’ Warming / Climate Change / Climate Disruption morphed from science, to pseudo-science, to a ‘Gaia’-worship religion years ago. Now that the Pope has joined, it is certifiable as Religion, and is definetely no longer Science.
Funny how, no matter what the supposed problem is, the solution is always the same…. give your freedom and wealth to ‘the experts’ to do with as they wish, and don’t EVER question them!
You will get ten years of steeply declining temperatures, so admissions will be unnecessary. We are clearly into the Landscheidt Mini ice age Now.
I start to believe that. Two days ago a record low night temperature of -4.2 oC at Twente – The Netherlands since the 1951 start of the measurements. Somewhere with the definitive decline of the solar cycle I wish it really will become colder to stop this crazy green agenda.
See my post here HOW ON EARTH… And the evidence is clear they are getting frozen out. Unfortunately, we are all getting frozen and the worst is yet to come for thirty years.
paul, JJM,
Whilst I would not weep one single tear if the alarmists were obliged to recant their cult, I prefer warm.
And a shedload of other folk in the UK love warm.
Cold costs.
Warm enough – a minimum in the UK of about 1C would be generally bearable. Keep the maximum below20C, whilst I’m at it . . . . .
Smiling in aspiration,
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Unfortunately the United Nations World Order Fundraisers want to see warming for their own selfish purposes. Because their appeal depends upon it.
Yes, more warmth up your way and another 400 Ppm or more CO2, although unrelated, would lush up the Earth nicely. Unfortunately, the Sun is getting stuck at flipping magnetic poles, and without an active sun, cosmic rays make abundant clouds… Shuttering the Earth’s Surface from the Sun’s constant heating radiation.
Spoke to my mum over the w/e. She said the UK, Portsmouth area, was experiencing a heatwave of over 30c. I had to laugh, that’s a cool summer for me here in Aus.
Well it shows the debate about the science is really over. Don’t let logic, analysis, data or even common sense get in the way of a [good] ideological argument. I tend to think the skeptics have lost the argument as it is too easy now for most to trust in fiddled data and propaganda. Those who sensibly questioned the meme did not realise the pressures that would be brought to bear. Welcome to the new orthodox religion. 50 years is a mere blink of an eye for Gaia and heretics beware.
If we got a degree or two temperature drop for a few years that would increase the pause to well over 50 years?
Basically though, they are admitting that Gobal warming is a Fraud because they aren’t providing a reasonable test.
I think one should concede that AGW was a bankrupt idea, an inconvenient truth when temps refused to follow models and the unpredicted pause presented. We all know that out of political necessity, Klimate khange, a term the UN pre-defined to include indirect and direct anthro influences was adopted. All done and dusted. No requirement to disprove any kind of null hypothesis regarding postulated anthro climate drivers….it is included in the kk definitions. The question now remains, how much money may be stolen to abet Ms. C Figueres mantra and her ideological driven UN/UNEP power grab?
I’ll be long dead before 50 years so before then I hope the ice is piled more than a mile high over St Louis!
I think there was a Simon and Garfunkel song about that – “50 Years of No More Warming”. The problem is all inside our heads.
50 ways to leave your lover? I am sure some clever wordsmith could put alternative lyrics to that!
well, first he admitted that science is not settled…they CAN be wrong…really?
the point is always the same how come can you give a certainty of 95%?????
where does it come from?
I’ll see your 50 and raise another 100 ppm …
I couldn’t find the quotes of the RS fellows saying they had to wait another 50 years.
It’s consistent with what I’ve heard from others, including scientist, who said they would never say warming has stopped so long as CO2 is a lot higher than preindustrial levels. In other words, the definition of “global warming” as given. Increased CO2 means it’s warming – regardless of what thermometers might say.
Unfortunately for that stance, the definition of global warming is based on surface temperatures, so they are moving the goalposts in order to maintain that position.
“the Royal Society admitted that the pause would have to continue for another 50 years” It shouldn’t take 50 years to add 0.12°C to all the ocean buoy data.
50 years! From their viewpoint a perfect answer. I do not think it was an off-the-top-of-their head answer, I think it was well coordinated agreement arrived between the UN/IPCC and the principal powerful big name anthropogenic apocalypse supporters, now including the Pope. This simple answer says it all and no amount of creditable science need be reviewed for the next 50 years. Most important (and scary) is this 50 year tag allows the momentum to eliminate fossil fuels to continue assuring that trillions of taxpayers/ratepayers dollars spent on solar/wind and storage scams will go on unabated. I fear that the once beautiful California landscape and seascapes will soon be a vast vista of solar panels and windmills with the government providing subsidies electricity to all because no one will be able to afford to pay the true price. And if it is free you can be assured that most Californians will support it…
Did you ask them on what they based that number?
My answer to all who put out such long term tests without justification is “then expect me to spend money for it in 51 years”.
Hmmm.. 50 years… Isn’t that how long things marked ‘Top Secret’ are held away from discussion?
Funny how it corresponds to the functional work life of the people in the field. It is hard to hold someone responsible for those Top Secret disasters when they are dead and/or gone.
Obviously they know they are wrong. They just don’t want it to affect their careers.