The 'uncertainty monster' bites back at IPCC scientists

WUWT readers may recall this paper from Dr. Judith Curry where the “uncertainty monster” was given life.

The uncertainty monster has bitten back. It seems that the IPCC botched more than just AR5 in 2013, they also botched their own press conference on the Summary for Policy Makers in Stockholm by not paying attention to their own uncertainty figures, something we saw recently when 2014 was declared the “hottest year ever”, but NASA GISS was really only 38% sure, finally having to concede that point of uncertainty. The author writes in an email communication regarding journalist David Rose and the “ill-posed” question during the IPCC SPM conference:

We refer to the dismissal of your question by Michel Jarraud, and the article you subsequently wrote. While it’s not the central finding of the paper, we state that your question was indeed well-founded and not ‘ill-posed’.

Oops.

Improving climate change communication: moving beyond scientific certainty

A new report from The University of Nottingham looks at whether climate scientists threaten their own scientific credibility when trying to make their research accessible to members of the public.

In the last 25 years scientists have become increasingly certain that humans are responsible for changes to the climate. However, for many politicians and members of the public, climate change is still not a particularly pressing concern. In a new report ‘Tension between scientific certainty and meaning complicates communication of IPCC reports’ – published on Nature Climate Change’s website, Dr Gregory Hollin and Dr Warren Pearce from the University’s School of Sociology and Social Policy, look at a press conference held by the IPCC in 2013 in order to better understand the ways in which climate scientists attempt to engage the public through the media.

Public credibility

Dr Pearce says:

“Climate science draws on evidence over hundreds of years, way outside of our everyday experience. During the press conference, scientists attempted to supplement this rather abstract knowledge by emphasising a short-term example: that the decade from 2001 onwards was the warmest that had ever been seen. On the surface, this appeared a reasonable communications strategy. Unfortunately, a switch to shorter periods of time made it harder to dismiss media questions about short-term uncertainties in climate science, such as the so-called ‘pause’ in the rate of increase in global mean surface temperature since the late 1990s. The fact that scientists go on to dismiss the journalists’ concerns about the pause – when they themselves drew upon a similar short-term example – made their position inconsistent and led to confusion within the press conference.”

Accepting tensions

Dr Hollin says:

“Climate change communication is anything but straightforward. When trying to engage the public about climate science, communicators need to be aware that there is a tension between expressing scientific certainty and making climate change meaningful. Acknowledging this tension should help to avoid in the future the kind of confusion caused at the press conference.”

Beyond certainty

Climate change is an area where consistent attempts are made to communicate the certainty of the science. As a result, a spotlight on scientific uncertainties may be seen as unwelcome. However, Dr Hollin and Dr Pearce argue that a discussion of uncertainty may be an unavoidable by-product of attempts to make climate change meaningful.

Dr Pearce adds: “In the run-up to the United Nations climate summit in Paris, making climate change meaningful remains a key challenge. Our analysis of the press conference demonstrates that this cannot be achieved by relying on scientific certainty alone. A broader, more inclusive public dialogue will include crucial scientific details that we are far less certain about. These need to be embraced and acknowledged in order to make climate change meaningful.”

To view a full copy of the report see: Hollin and Pearce – 2015 – Tension between scientific certainty and meaning c (PDF)

There is a blogpost by the authors explaining the article on the University of Nottingham’s Making Science Public blog: http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/makingsciencepublic/2015/06/05/ipcc-press-conference

Excerpt:

There was, however, an inconsistency in the argument of the scientists. Scientists consistently

drew on short-term temperature increases in order to give climate change meaning:

“the decade 2001 onwards having been the hottest, the warmest that we have seen”

(Pachauri L261–263).

However, the scientists also understood these short-term temperature increases to be less

certain than the overall theory of climate change:

“periods of less than around thirty years. . . are less relevant” (Stocker, L582–583).

Thus, the meaningful, short-term, temperature changes were actually incorporated at the

expense of certainty. While the intended move was therefore to the top-right quadrant

(position three), the actual move was to the bottom-right quadrant (position four): meaning

had been added but at the expense of certainty.

short-term-uncertainty-phases
Figure 4 | Incoherent attempt to maintain public meaning and certainty. Drawing on temporally local, publicly meaningful information (‘the hottest decade’) proved problematic, as it lent legitimacy to the discussion of other local uncertainties, such as the 15-year ‘pause’. Speakers were repeatedly challenged on the uncertainties connected to this phenomenon: “Your climate change models did not predict there was a slowdown in the warming. How can we be sure about your predicted projections for future warming?” (Harrabin L560–562). Faced with these challenges, speakers retreated from temporally local, publicly meaningful data (position 4) to rearm AGW’s broad certainty (position 2): “we are very clear in our report that it is inappropriate to compare a short-term period of observations with model performance” (Stocker L794–796). This retreat led to confusion, incoherence, and criticism within the press conference.

 

Drawing on meaningful information like ‘the hottest decade’ proved problematic for the

scientists for it is hard to see why the short-term increase in temperature during ‘hottest

decade’ is very different from the short-term decrease in temperature witnessed during the

15-year ‘pause’. Journalists repeatedly asked scientists about the pause and, in particular,

how they could be increasingly certain about climate change in the face of such an

uncertainty:

“Your climate change models did not predict there was a slowdown in the warming.

How can we be sure about your predicted projections for future warming?” (Harrabin

L560–562).

Faced with these questions, scientists insisted that short-term temperature changes were

irrelevant for climate science:

“we are very clear in our report that it is inappropriate to compare a short-term period

of observations with model performance” (Stocker L794–796).

Given the type of statement we saw during phase three it is perhaps unsurprising that this

retreat led to confusion, incoherence, and criticism within the press conference.

David Rose was one of the causalities of that press conference, now vindicated. From the paper:

This `temporal segmentation’ enabled the pause to be dismissed as scientifically irrelevant, suggesting that journalists’ questions on the matter couldbe ignored. Jarraud oered just such a dismissal to Rose’s question, which he claimed was “from a scientific point of view: : : what we would call an ill-posed question” (L827828), essentially dismissing Rose as scientifically illiterate. The terms of this dismissal, however, seem inconsistent with the temporally localized claims made by speakers during the press conference. The speakers oscillated between two positions: one of broad certainty but little public meaning, the other of public meaning but little broad certainty (Fig.4). This striking incoherence was noted by Alex Morales of Bloomberg News who asked why 15-year periods are considered by the speakers if they hold no scientific value (L965969).

When Rose published his article the following day, the quote “your question is ill-posed!” was given headline status, and derided as a misjudged response to “a simple question”. We do not wish to claim here that Rose was particularly sympathetic to the IPCC before the press conference, but in this instance his question was well founded. It exposed how attempts during the press conference to increase public meaning undermined the very scientific certainty that representatives were trying to communicate, and then leverage, to procure public meaning.

Congratulations to journalist David Rose, who because of articles like this one about the IPCC, was labeled ““climate misinformer of the year”, by Media Matters, a label now most certainly, “ill-posed”.

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SAMURAI
June 8, 2015 7:35 pm

In the real world, if a corporation were to express such extreme confidence in their projections and made as many “adjustments” to their books as the IPCC has done to the raw data, and their projections didn’t come close to guidance, then the company would be sued for malfeasance and fraud and many of the executives would go to jail.
The IPCC has absolutely NO justification to be 95% confident that man’s CO2 emissions have caused more than 50% of all global warming since 1950. NONE!
The empirical evidence shows that since 1850, CO2 has PERHAPS contributed 0.2C to the 0.8C of warming over the last 165 years, and manmade CO2 may add another 0.3~0.8C of CO2 induced warming by 2100; most likely closer to 0.3C~0.4C…
Regardless of the Karl 2015 shenanigans, RSS, UAH and Radiosonde empirical evidence show almost NO warming trend for 19 years and counting. Moreover, the RSS/UAH and radiosonde evidence are now 2+ standard deviations off from CAGW model mean projections and perhaps will be over 3+ SDs off within 5 years.
CAGW is dead. Just to get to their low-end “best guess” estimate of 3C by 2100 would require a global temperature trend of 0.26C/decade for the next 85 straight years, starting from tomorrow…. That AIN’T gonna happen…
Just to hit 2C by 2100 would require a global warming trend of 0.14C/decade for the next 85 straight years, starting from tomorrow, which also isn’t going to happen; not with what’s happening with the weak solar cycles and the PDO/AMO cool cycles in effect or coming soon…
The IPCC knows this, which is why they’re desperately “fixing” the numbers to delay the inevitable CAGW disconfirmation.
It’s infuriating to see science corrupted in this manner and the $TRILLIONS being wasted by governments around the world to address a fabricated non-issue…

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 8, 2015 11:41 pm

If the maximum attributable temperature rise since 1850 that is due to CO2 is 0.2C, then the maximum future attributable temperature rise must not exceed this amount for the next 120ppm rise. If it did we would be looking at a compounding relationship which would take projections into the realm of nonsensical very quickly. Current projections already suffer this fatal flaw. One only needs to extend the trajectory of doomsday graphs past the surface temperature of Venus, yet below the concentration of an exhaled breath to see this.

Mary Brown
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 9, 2015 5:59 am

“The empirical evidence shows that since 1850, CO2 has PERHAPS contributed 0.2C to the 0.8C of warming over the last 165 years”
Source? How did you come by this ?

SAMURAI
Reply to  Mary Brown
June 9, 2015 11:24 pm

Mary– The peer reviewed paper Lindzen & Choi 2011 estimates about 0.2C of CO2 induced warming by 2100.
Given the forcing effect of CO2 per doubling, if there are no negatives feedbacks, then ECS is approximately 1.C per CO2 doubling. It’s becoming increasing clear that negative cloud cover feedbacks from added CO2 induced warming cuts Net CO2 induced warming by 20~50%.
Nobody knows for certain how big this negative cloud feedback mechanism is, but there being absolutely no discernible global warming trend for the past 19 years, despite 30% of all manmade CO2 emissions since 1750 being made over the 19 years doesn’t bode well for CAGW’s assumption of climate’s super sensitivity to CO2.
Model projections are already off by 2 standard deviations and within 5 years or so, reality will deviate from projections by 3+ SDs, which is sufficient duration and disparity to disconfirm the CAGW hypothesis.

bushbunny
June 8, 2015 7:48 pm

The average person who knows from life’s experience that we can’t predict the weather well, and only give an estimate of future weather patterns that are what we consider is normal or there are variables within any seasonal climate change. Even radar can only give some indication of where rain will fall. I’ve seen storms approaching and never hit us but 50 km away they are suffering a deluge. It could be raining hard down the hill from where I live and we are getting just a bit. A bad hail storm hit Armidale some years ago, it swept past my home but a few kms away there was terrible damage. That’s the truth.

ilma630
June 8, 2015 10:19 pm

“However, for many politicians and members of the public, climate change is still not a particularly pressing concern.”! Really? Tell that to Obama et al.

June 8, 2015 10:20 pm

Opening up Climate Science to questions of uncertainty, is Like Mikael Gorbachev opening up the Soviet Union to reform. Once started, the damn will break and the flood gates will open!

David Llewellyn
June 9, 2015 12:52 am

So now it is periods of 30 years that present significant degrees of uncertainty. Of course it has to be more than periods of 20 or so years, because if it were 20 or so years the game would be up and the certainty in. Only problem is that I have heard these figures in the past, but when it was not near twelve years flatline, the figure for a statistically significant flatline was approx. twelve years, and as that neared it became 16 years, and in another ten years it’ll be 50 years, etc etc etc.
It is great to watch the developments in statistics over the years, obviously a field undergoing rapid change and development, as the figures for uncertainty become more and more refined. This clearly could not be done without computers…

Ivor Ward
June 9, 2015 1:24 am

Perhaps Warren Pearce and Dr Karl should open a fudge factory…Karl & Pearce Fantastic Fudge. Contains 98% hot air with a sprinkle of chocolate facts.

June 9, 2015 5:29 am

Dr Pearce adds: “In the run-up to the United Nations climate summit in Paris, making climate change meaningful remains a key challenge.”

Is it just me, or does the linkage between the Paris summit and the need to make climate change “meaningful” simply continue to subordinate scientific research to serve a pre-selected political goal?
It would seem that what upsets Dr. Pearce is not that climate science is done poorly, but that the public are too often figuring that out.

observa
June 9, 2015 7:09 am

Nick Cater, columnist nails it superbly in The Australian (paywalled) with an article headlined-
IPCC is to science what FIFA is to soccer
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/ipcc-is-to-science-what-fifa-is-to-soccer/story-fnhulhjj-1227388635773?from=google+current_rss