Can anyone check out this claim of suppressed access?

Duct-TapeSamiz Dat writes in WUWT Tips and notes

May 4, 2015 at 5:33 pm

Hey, Anthony, just a heads up. I am a chemical engineering student at the University of Adelaide. Loading your page takes a few seconds wherever I am in Adelaideā€¦..except at the University of Adelaide, when trying to access your site from any of the North Terrace campus computers I easily wait up to 10-15 minutes before the site has loaded, individual posts take another 10-15 minutes to load. Yours is the only website this has and is happening with so far.

I have had similar emails from time to time, but I’ve never had any interest in following it up since such things can often be flukes. But this time, maybe not, so I’ve decided to ask if users are seeing similar things when they try to access WUWT via government networks and university networks. I’m really interested to find out if anyone at University of Adelaide can corroborate this story.

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May 6, 2015 7:43 pm

Corroborate rather than collaborate?

Reply to  bernie1815
May 6, 2015 7:45 pm

Thanks, fixed.
w.

greymouser70
May 6, 2015 7:44 pm

Anthony: I think word you want in the last line should be: “corroborate”

mpaul
May 6, 2015 7:46 pm

Lately I’ve been having problems loading wuwt on my mobile phone. it seems to be your site, climateaudit and bishophill. All other sites that I frequent seem to load fine. The problem is only on 3gpp and not WiFi. I use Verizon. Could be many differt things.

Reply to  mpaul
May 7, 2015 1:38 am

After multiple bad experiences, I suggest you get away from Verizon ASAP:

Michael Finn
Reply to  mpaul
May 7, 2015 7:32 am

This site loads very fast on my iPhone and Verizon is the provider.

timo soren
May 6, 2015 7:50 pm

You have been throttled. Which has a few meanings.

PiperPaul
Reply to  timo soren
May 7, 2015 5:29 am

For some reason I’m reminded of Ben Santer.

Ursus Augustus
May 6, 2015 7:50 pm

Sounds like an internet eco-nazi einzatsgruppen is at work.
Could this be a ‘dividend’ from the COOKMOOC at University of Queensland?

Hugh
Reply to  Ursus Augustus
May 7, 2015 12:02 pm

Keine Nazionale Einscheissegruppen gebraucht, just too many elements on a single page.
Lots of ads, as said, pictures and videos, embedded content from here and there. Many pieces on javascript. Vulnerable to dns problems and local filters.

Kuldebar
May 6, 2015 7:58 pm

Tips & Notes is always slow to load for me, but my PC is from 2005. šŸ™‚
(Reply: It’s usually slow for everyone due to the large number of comments. -mod)

Reply to  Kuldebar
May 6, 2015 8:54 pm

2005, wow! The lower troposphere hasn’t warmed one iota in the entire life of your trusty old computer.

Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
May 7, 2015 4:06 am

i think i am on my 6th computer since 2005.

May 6, 2015 7:58 pm

I’ve certainly noticed that some of the commenters are slow.

Reply to  Max Photon
May 7, 2015 1:00 am

Thoughtful deliberation is to be expected from those who think about the evidence.

Kirkc
Reply to  Max Photon
May 7, 2015 5:15 pm

+1

Editor
May 6, 2015 8:02 pm

With all the ads, images, and other hundreds of comments, it takes a lot to load a WUWT page. It might be worth doing some timing tests with just the parent page, e.g. on Linux:

tmp$ time wget -O wuwt.html http://WattsUpWithThat.com/index.html
--2015-05-06 22:51:59--  http://wattsupwiththat.com/index.html
Resolving wattsupwiththat.com (wattsupwiththat.com)... 192.0.78.24, 192.0.78.25
Connecting to wattsupwiththat.com (wattsupwiththat.com)|192.0.78.24|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/06/skeptcial-science-takes-creepy-to-a-whole-new-level/index-of-_images_user_uploaded/ [following]
--2015-05-06 22:51:59--  http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/06/skeptcial-science-takes-creepy-to-a-whole-new-level/index-of-_images_user_uploaded/
Reusing existing connection to wattsupwiththat.com:80.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `wuwt.html'
    [                                                           ] 121,449     --.-K/s   in 0.07s
2015-05-06 22:52:00 (1.66 MB/s) - `wuwt.html' saved [121449]
real    0m0.949s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m0.004s

That’s pretty weird – the index file redirected to a 2013 posting, and not just any random posting. I can’t look into that now, maybe later. I could well have downloaded that post sometime.
At any rate – about a second for that post, including redirect.

Espen
Reply to  Ric Werme
May 6, 2015 9:39 pm

Ric – if I type wattsupwiththat.com/index.html I also get redirected to http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/06/skeptcial-science-takes-creepy-to-a-whole-new-level/index-of-_images_user_uploaded/ – which is weird – but probably nothing to worry about.

Mike M
Reply to  Espen
May 7, 2015 5:39 am

Ditto – Awfully strange. I was able to leave a comment on the page too.
The link there points to a PDF file – https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/index-of-_images_user_uploaded.pdf

Reply to  Espen
May 7, 2015 3:19 pm

it’s probably a wordpress weirdness, the pages are most likely generated on the fly from the contents in a database, not a static file.

May 6, 2015 8:03 pm

Being an Australian and watching the verbal machinations emanating from our universities, this would not surprise me if true.

Reply to  wayne Job
May 6, 2015 8:17 pm

Really, it would surprise me if it wasn’t true.
Someone (can’t recall who) posted this link here recently, saying the same thing:
http://www.infowars.com/alexa-caught-fixing-rankings-to-target-anti-obama-news-sites/

May 6, 2015 8:16 pm

WordPress has a reputation for being slow to load.
Add on bells and whistles and it gets worse.
Pile on comments, including images, and it gets … umm … worser.
But I don’t think that would account for University of Adelaide’s glacial pace.
Maybe they have dial-up šŸ™‚

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Max Photon
May 6, 2015 10:22 pm

Dial-up. That would do it. Been there.
We moved to DSL in Sept. 2008.
Most things load in a few seconds.
In-home wireless sometimes gets lost, inconvenient, but easily fixed.

Alexander K
May 6, 2015 8:31 pm

Here in West Auckland, NZ, on an ordinary copper-pair phone line, I find WUWT loads at about the same speed as most sites, including local sites. UK Daily Mail is the slowest I regularly use.
Speed varies with time of day rather than the sites one accesses. 6.39.00am to 8.00am is best forgotten about, try again while locals are driving to work.

Reply to  Alexander K
May 7, 2015 1:02 am

UK Daily Mail is the slowest I regularly use.

Possibly due to the large number of images.
Or maybe you computer has taste?

Sam The First
Reply to  M Courtney
May 7, 2015 7:44 am

My iMac laptop really objects to The Independent website, possibly due the moving sidebars etc etc. Firefox almost always freezes if I’m on that page. I have to say I often object to it too… but I do like to read at least two news sites per day even though most of them make me spit tacks

Reply to  Alexander K
May 7, 2015 10:23 am

Quite likely, plus factoring age of computer, internet connection & users on that connection. While away over the weekend I used a hotel’s public internet connection in their lobby to see what was new on WUWT – slower than molasses! But so was the site I needed to pay my apartment rent. Other sites like the airline check-in one popped up quick. Meanwhile, my silly AGW believers over at ClimateCrocks claim Breitbart pages open up slowly just for liberals, but my old used iMac bogs down just the same on those, but has no particular problem loading WUWT.

J. Philip Peterson
May 6, 2015 8:34 pm

Here on my Toshiba laptop, WUWT is one of the fastest for loading via Chrome or Firefox… just sayin…

George A
May 6, 2015 8:39 pm

Some ad sites may be blocked, requiring them to timeout before the remainder of the page can be loaded.

Chris
Reply to  George A
May 7, 2015 1:09 am

My Ubuntu/Chrome occasionally fails to load a page (waiting for an ad server). If I press stop the page loads fine without the ads. My Win7/IE11 always works, same network. Try a different browser.

Reply to  George A
May 7, 2015 3:49 am

THAT is most likely the case.
You can test if they are using a proxy by closing the browser reopening it and trying again, if its suddenly much faster you know its been cached somewhere else.

Peter
May 6, 2015 8:40 pm

Central Queensland in Australia, a city with average internet structure on an average ADSL connection, WUWT loads as fast as anywhere else. Same with the phone. Firefox with some ads blocked.

Richard Sharpe
Reply to  Peter
May 6, 2015 8:53 pm

Mt Isa? I lived there for two years from 1958. No internet then!
Hmmm, maybe Mt Isa is not exactly Central Qld, since it is not far from the Three Ways in the NT.

James Allison
Reply to  Richard Sharpe
May 7, 2015 12:12 am

Ha. I worked at that Three Ways Roadhouse many many moons ago after working on an outback station Cloncurry way. During time off work did some serious drinking at Mt Isa pubs.

JohnB
Reply to  Richard Sharpe
May 7, 2015 2:17 am

James, are you saying there is another type of drinking besides “serious” when in the Isa?

Richard Sharpe
Reply to  Richard Sharpe
May 7, 2015 8:45 pm

Ha. I worked at that Three Ways Roadhouse many many moons ago after working on an outback station Cloncurry way.

We were stuck for three days outside of Camooweal around Christmas time 1970 (the water was six feet above the bridge), and then bogged outside of Kloncurry in 1971 on the way back from Winton (we were pulled out by a SuperHippo).
No internet then either.

Keith Minto
May 6, 2015 8:48 pm

If the download is slow, run a speedtest. The same test download speed but vastly different site download times (close to the speedtest result) would indicate something selective going on.

May 6, 2015 8:50 pm

Already mentioned–blocked ads timing out.
Heavy commenting with many-pixel graphics.
“Traffic-shaping” either on you — a hostile site, or distance.

Bravius
May 6, 2015 8:53 pm

The university network has the ability to do selective rate limiting:
ā€œThe Palo Alto Networks NGFW knows which users are doing what. In the pre-Palo Alto Networks days the University could only identify activity by IP address. Now we can identify and control traffic based on user-id and groups and potentially rate limit specific application traffic. The Palo Alto Networks management interface is very easy to use. It also allows the firewall support team to react more quickly to threats.ā€
https://www.paloaltonetworks.com/customers/university-of-adelaide.html

chris riley
May 6, 2015 8:58 pm

Could the delay be because it takes some time for your computer to turn the pages upside down so you can read them in the SH without turning your monitor (or yourself) upside down?

robtin
Reply to  chris riley
May 6, 2015 10:22 pm

We learn to read NH rubbish upside down.

Mike Bromley the Kurd
May 6, 2015 8:59 pm

I got fed up with being limited in my access to anything, so I installed Astrill. Gives me a China-proof IP address. There is a way around these kinds of things.

Ian H
May 6, 2015 9:05 pm

Not a problem at my University. I would be surprised if this was deliberate throttling. The academic staff at Universities have nothing to do with running the networks. And the IT people are simply too busy. Who has time to police the internet for political correctness.
Have you asked the IT people at Adelaide why the site is loading extremely slowly? That would be the first step. Chances are this is not deliberate.

4 eyes
Reply to  Ian H
May 7, 2015 4:54 pm

And ask a friend with a different logon ID to try to access WUWT from a different machine at the UoA.

Libertarian Babette
Reply to  Ian H
May 8, 2015 10:15 am

If you “out” yourself by admitting you visit this site and ask for help you are putting yourself at risk at ANY university. I am not being paranoid. I work in a University IT shop and I can tell you that at least one of the guys here, who is a far-left Koolaid drinkin’ nutjob, would definitely spread it around and cause problems if he knew my politics.

Mike Griffis
May 6, 2015 9:22 pm

Good website diagnostic tool here: http://www.webpagetest.org/
The WUWT homepage is a little heavy. Graphics aren’t compressed, static data isn’t cached, and no CDN is used.

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  Mike Griffis
May 7, 2015 4:49 am

Mike, that’s all well and good, but what the hell am I looking at in the ‘results’??? There’s no scaling to tell me if the results are good or bad. People who devise websites like this always forget that 99% of us haven’t a clue what they’re talking about! I changed to a new web host provider recently, and what they instructed me to do was laughable – I couldn’t understand a single sentence. When I berated them, they replied with an apology…then did the same again. They talk to you as if you are ‘in’ the world of computers. Bizarre. I talk to my clients as though they nothing at all…which most of them don’t.

May 6, 2015 9:50 pm

Could be climate change…

Truthseeker
Reply to  Mike
May 6, 2015 10:58 pm

Definitely CO2.

Reply to  Truthseeker
May 7, 2015 3:03 am

+10

Reply to  Truthseeker
May 7, 2015 1:46 pm

But, of course, only the Man-made kind.
(Maybe the University of Adelaide should stop getting its power from coal-fired power plants?)

pauline young
May 6, 2015 9:55 pm

I currently live in Tasmania and cannot access WUWT or Jo Nova from the computers at the local library which are under government control.

Reply to  pauline young
May 7, 2015 12:12 am

Maybe try Astrill as Mike Bromley suggests above?

Peter
Reply to  pauline young
May 7, 2015 4:24 am

Hi Pauline. I’m in the Huon Valley. I’ll try to access WUWT via the HuonLINC Library tomorrow. I’m curious to see what happen. Thanks for the heads up.

STRICQ
May 6, 2015 9:56 pm

In any browser you can press F12 to get the Developers window. In there you will find some very nice graphs showing how long it takes to load each element of a website. You usually have to “turn on the functionality” before loading the page as such metrics are off by default

TerryS
Reply to  STRICQ
May 7, 2015 12:23 am

Thank you.
Any day I learn something new (and useful) is a day well spent.

May 6, 2015 9:57 pm

Loads fine here. A few things to check:
– does the CDN which WP use have a point of presence in AU?
– make darn sure JavaScript that can be loaded async is being load async (stops the page render hanging up on a slow server).
– The twitter images and counters seem somewhat slow to me (based in AU)..

May 6, 2015 10:00 pm

Australia has notoriously slow internet. The NBN upgrade probably hasn’t arrived at the University yet and the old copper wiring is probably being backed up by tin cans and pieces of string, which will probably still be needed to connect the University buildings to the Street “node” where the optic fibre cables will eventually reach.

Stan
Reply to  wickedwenchfan
May 7, 2015 6:32 pm

Wrong. NBN has nothing to do with it. Universities have had direct fibre access for years (also CBDs, hospitals, large businesses etc). Google AARNet. Copper/ADSL is perfectly fine for houses.

ShrNfr
May 6, 2015 10:12 pm

I suggest that you ping WUWT to see how long the packets take vs a ping of some other US site. One thing that does happen is that ISPs tend to cache stuff en route. The first load of a site that is not frequently visited in your neck of the woods or its content can take a while if the site is not all that local. I read the Nigerian Tribune from time to time. The first access takes a while. After that, it is in the cache someplace and a second access does not take nearly as long.

planebrad
May 6, 2015 10:12 pm

Samiz should connect through a proxy server while he is on the university network. If he gets better speed through the proxy, it’s probably something on the university’s end. If so, it could be malicious or it could be a misconfiguration or a DNS issue.

May 6, 2015 10:19 pm

Logged in fine from Adelaide.

Eliza
May 6, 2015 10:27 pm

Here in South America WUWT loads super fast (much faster than when I was in Australia)

Jack
May 6, 2015 10:30 pm

Only tried once but blocked at University of Queensland, home of the science for deniers. What a joke.

Reply to  Jack
May 7, 2015 1:21 am

If you are blocked at Uni of Qld charge them with breach of the Public Sector Ethics Act which specifically applies to all Universities in Queensland, it also applies to contractors servicing any public sector organisation.

Ian Macdonald
May 6, 2015 10:36 pm

While back there was a furore over parental control software also blocking sites of political parties the vendor didn’t support. Wonder if this could be a similar thing? The uni may well have installed filtering software to stop ‘adult’ material from wasting campus bandwidth, and this might have had a few sneaky blocklist additions made by the vendor.

Editor
Reply to  Ian Macdonald
May 7, 2015 6:14 pm

While back there was a furore over parental control software also blocking sites of political parties the vendor didnā€™t support. Wonder if this could be a similar thing? The uni may well have installed filtering software to stop ā€˜adultā€™ material from wasting campus bandwidth, and this might have had a few sneaky blocklist additions made by the vendor.

It may be legit “adult filtering”. Has anyone else been seeing WordPress sidebar ads for “prepare to laugh. We’ve compiled the top 100 fails” featuring a bride in a dress with an almost non-existant top, leaving almost nothing to the imagination when it comes to her inflated errr uhmmm? Then there’s “the 50 most beautiful women on earth” series. I can see nanny-filters legitimately blocking this stuff.

paulinuk
May 6, 2015 10:36 pm

About 3 years ago at my local library, WattsUpwithThat was blocked from the computers there but RealClimate was accessible. Some twit there was masking out sites he disapproved of so I never went back.

Lu
Reply to  paulinuk
May 7, 2015 8:38 am

Well, that was real courageous of you. I bet all unwittingly blocked visitors there, also stopped going? So who will bell the cat?

Patrick
May 6, 2015 10:37 pm

Australia has one of the poorest performing networks for internet connections. My mate in Pataya, Thailand get’s better performance and no data caps. Also, I think there are various filters now put in place by the Govn’t capturing user metadata. Sure, that’s going to stop outlaws.

Doug
May 6, 2015 10:55 pm

There is a university in the US which indeed blocked Steve McIntyre from accessing data. I wrote to complain, and they denied it (deniers come in many forms), but Steve comfirmed it.

TedM
May 6, 2015 11:36 pm

I’m on copper and in SW Oz. WUWT loads in three or four seconds. Nothing wrong with copper unless you are Km’s from the exchange.

dp
May 6, 2015 11:50 pm

I use a Squid proxy to block all advert and non-science content that is linked from this site. It does this for every site, actually, and needs constant tweaking, of course. I do this because loading the first page is otherwise crazy slow. A side benefit is I don’t see anything except information that I want to see and which is the reason I visit these pages in the first place. I suspect that I am a 70 year old millennial – no patience for slow sites and unrequested material. My browser, my choice.

JabbaTheCat
May 6, 2015 11:52 pm

No WUWT loading speed problems this end, even with Adblock running…

Peter Miller
May 7, 2015 12:06 am

WUWT cannot be accessed in mainland China, but otherwise I have never had a problem.
I think the Chinese are a bit sensitive about climate. They do not care about CO2 levels, and they laugh and laugh as they watch the West try to destroy their economies over a non-problem.

Reply to  Peter Miller
May 7, 2015 1:41 am

Just back from a trip to China -slow down in construction very noticeable every where. The Chinese are not worried about climate but in Beijing air pollution from particles and brown skies from NOX both mainly from cars (many coming from Germany such as BMW, VW, Audi Mercedes) and Buses & trucks is a concern but then Beijing (18million) is in a valley and pollution gets trapped. Skies were much clearer and cleaner in the largest Chinese city Chongging of 33 million and in Shanghai (22 million). I recall some years ago in New York it was not possible to see the street from the top of the Empire State building and in Tokyo the car pollution causes watering of ones eyes.
AWG alarmist love to mix up air pollution from particles and smog with CO2 which is a clean, odourless gas beneficial to life (and does not cause any warming as any chemical or mechanical engineer who understands thermodynamics and heat & mass transfer knows)

Mortal Martin
May 7, 2015 12:33 am

Anthony,
from the other side of the world: I am frequently accessing your website from a German government Computer Network without any trouble at all. Given the AGW-frenzy that goes as “politics” in my country, this should be proof that there’s no conspiracy going on here.
Oh, and, Ursus Augustus, it’s “Einsatzgruppen”, not “Einzatsgruppen”.

Ex-expat Colin
May 7, 2015 1:43 am

I’m in UK (private house) and don’t have a problem with WUWT loading. Bishop Hill had a long delay problem with his ISP/Web Host a while back…now resolved.
Chromium (page bottom left) caption shows what the browser is waiting for. And ticks through incoming elements as the page constructs. Any links to Ads is asking for trouble. And what Google is doing you can only but guess!
I never rated Uni’s or Gov departments of any use…Gov UK is still a mess which is no surprise. Pay peanuts get…..not a lot!
Sorry if this has already been said.

Dennis Kelley
May 7, 2015 2:16 am

I have noticed that WUWT is always one of the slowest sites to load in any browser on a variety of machines. With my pitiful CenturyStink DSL connection it seems even worse. I have often wondered if this has something to do with WordPress.

Dodgy Geezer
May 7, 2015 2:24 am

Miller

WUWT cannot be accessed in mainland China, but otherwise I have never had a problem.
I think the Chinese are a bit sensitive about climate. They do not care about CO2 levels, and they laugh and laugh as they watch the West try to destroy their economies over a non-problem.

If the Chinese (and Indians, and much of the developing world) had their way, they would close down WUWT, Climate Audit and all the sceptic sites.
ā€œWhen the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him.ā€ (Napoleon)

AB
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
May 7, 2015 5:36 am

Not a problem here in Hong Kong, loads very quickly, but a few kms across the border it’s a different story.

Dodgy Geezer
May 7, 2015 2:25 am

@Ex-expat Colin
I never rated Uniā€™s or Gov departments of any useā€¦Gov UK is still a mess which is no surprise. Pay peanuts getā€¦..not a lot!
Oh! If only we HAD paid peanuts….

Kelvin Vaughan.
May 7, 2015 2:26 am

Of course it might be that your website is so popular in the University Anthony that everyone is overloading the server.

kolnai
May 7, 2015 2:34 am

I have no problems accessing WUWT in England.
But the situation is more serious than probably most here realise. Censorship in Britain starts – of all places! – with the British Library. Many websites which may be vital to research are blocked on the grounds of ‘Intolerance’. One such site is The Nation of Islam:
http://www.noi.org/
Its Home Page today leads with the long overdue plea of ‘Saving our (Black) girls’, clearly from the depradations of liberal-sanctioned ‘sin'(drugs etc.). Despite its racial intolerance, it is a serious site dealing with deadly threats to life and existence. On the other hand, it automatically takes the ‘Black’ point of view against the white, even when this involves a defence of the criminal (which it otherwise opposes). Evidently intolerant, but a very valuable source.
An even clearer case exists for Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s site, The AHA foundation, also banned at the BL:
http://www.theahafoundation.org/about-us/
In a similar vein to NOI, it attempts to rescue ‘victims of honor violence’, ie abused women worldwide. Though there is no NOI-type colour bar, it is not hard to guess which religion might be producing the main clients of the site.
It is time our leaders realised they are ruling with our permission, and that no source of information which promotes sincerely held views, no matter how foul, should be censored. Quite apart from anything else, leading the fight against the enemy means understanding the enemy, a point completely lost on the AGW crew.
Which is why they are losing.

Mike (UK)
May 7, 2015 2:51 am

If you open up a command prompt (Start, all programs, accessories) in windows and type tracert http://www.wattsupwiththat.com it will show you the hops (jumps between connections) from your PC to this website and where the slowness is coming from, if its early in the trace then its probably the university, if its later then its the general network.. Tracert stands for trace route.
Hope that helps (I work in IT)

AndyG55
May 7, 2015 3:22 am

I work at another Uni, and EVERYTHING is slow as a wet week compared to at home on ADSL.
Remember that there a huge amount of traffic on these Uni networks and bottlenecks to OS sites can often occur.

Reply to  AndyG55
May 7, 2015 4:57 am

It’s not like all of the students are stealing, er… downloading mp3s or streaming full HD movies 24 hours a day.

May 7, 2015 4:40 am

Try loading httpwatch and check the timings and transactions during the load…fun to see what’s happening during any web access….try for free…

Hugh Crowther
Reply to  Roger fallon
May 7, 2015 5:40 am

Hugh C
I run a program called PeerBlock and every time I access your site I get spying from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reporting my access to 140.90.213.166.80 and
National Aeronautics and Space Administration reporting to 128.183.168.36.80. It seems big Global Warming brother is watching your site and probably slowing things down.

Steve C
May 7, 2015 5:52 am

No access problems here (UK midlands domestic connection).
However, Anthony or mods or site design team, be aware of another WP problem I just came across on the Register. “Attackers target new XSS in millions of WordPress sites” – it’s in those sites because it’s a WordPress plugin problem and could allow attackers to trash your site.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/07/wordpresss_xss_twenty_fifteen/

Matthew R. Epp
May 7, 2015 6:26 am

A couple years back, I had a similar experience with my sons school issued laptop. When I tried to access WUWT from home to help him understand a topic about global warming, the schools security blocked it and categorized it as entertainment. The same category for you tube and other sites they deemed not appropriate for school children. coincidentally Fox News was also blocked. They changed that shortly after, no doubt some liberal zealot in the IT department got “reprimanded” for it after numerous complaints.
Perhaps there is something similar going on there as well? I am not an IT guy so this is merely speculation on my part.
Matt

ralfellis
May 7, 2015 7:02 am

The worst is Tips and Notes.
Sometimes that is so large, it simply refused to load.

Hot under the collar
May 7, 2015 7:31 am

Reading the comments above it appears that sensible, popular sites like WUWT tend to load slower whereas cr*p sites load faster.

Craig Loehle
May 7, 2015 7:36 am

I have trouble here in US when staying at a hotel using their computer in lobby. It may block all WordPress sites for some reason, not just WUWT. Otherwise, WUWT loads instantly and always with any browser (fairly new computer, lots of RAM). Interestingly, however, if I leave Climate Audit open it may start using too much memory and close and reopen itself for some reason (same with Instapundit site).

Ian Wilson
May 7, 2015 7:38 am

The Queensland Government educational network covering all public high schools in the State was regularly blocking WUWT and other skeptical sites in 2010. This mean that high school students could not access your site a lot of the time. I would put in requests for the skeptical sites to be unblocked and a week or so later you could get access. The return e-mail to local IT guru would say that the blockage at been a “terrible” mistake. However, if you checked back in a month or so, the sites would again be blocked. Government sites here in Australia often use a Political Correct Filter to ensure that vulnerable minds are not sullied by non-approved ideas and thinking.

Kevin Kilty
May 7, 2015 7:47 am

We have terrible bandwidth at some of our campus facilities (engineering, by the way is among the worst). One proposal to rectify this would be to prioritize web pages. Things like Facebook and Pinterest and so forth would get lower priority. We also have several infrastructure options for improving bandwidth also, so prioritizing of web pages is not likely. However, knowing the mindset of a majority of the adults on campus, I can pretty well guess which sites would get low priority.

RWturner
May 7, 2015 8:39 am

Ping them?

TeeWee
May 7, 2015 8:57 am

Anthony: I was able to access WUWT right away from our Junior College computer system. Of course, we are located in the Midwest in a rather conservative area but nevertheless, you came up instantly,.

AnonyMoose
Reply to  TeeWee
May 7, 2015 9:26 am

Midwest of what country?

May 7, 2015 9:05 am

Basic Principle: Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence. The first place to look is for a problem on the page itself.
The page is a very slow loader by its nature. The wonder is not that it loads slow; its that it loads in a reasonable time at all.
Anthony: To the extent you are going to show the same set of graphics somewhere you should consolidate them into a single one. Given the size and complexity of the page you should find a skin that removes any unnecessary separate items. If you can consolidate a set of javascript files you should do so. If you don’t do this already, you should look into breaking out the comments with a javascript widget that will load the comments if a user makes that request. Advertisements and various stuff other than the text of the article should not be stopping the page from loading. I don’t deal in pages like this, so can’t say how off the top of my head but you can make it so that the crucial bits get a head start and then asynchronously load things that are not crucial.
On the upside, for people like me with a connection greater than 50 mbps, the page loads quickly. To me that indicates that you are either part of a CDN or you have a very fast, powerful and well managed servers. Yay!
On the upside
This page (the one I am making the comment on — http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/06/can-anyone-check-out-this-claim-of-suppressed-access/), tested on pingdom:
Tested from San Jose, California, USA on May 7 at 11:28:10
Page size 1.8MB
Load time 60.00s
Requests 302
Perf. grade 75/100
Your website is slower than 97% of all tested websites
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Reply to  Bob Trower
May 7, 2015 2:16 pm

At home, WUWT loads fine (unless there are a LOAD of comments for a particular post). I run Windows 7 Pro and Firefox.
When I check in at work (During breaks! Really!), it’s always slower with some things blocked. (Links to some blogs and graphics.) It’s been slower since the city implemented some kind of snooping “screen capture” program (So for sure, only during breaks!).
The point of this reply is that the problem is likely not at the source of the site but rather where the site is being opened.
Is WUWT (and other skeptical/non-PC) being targeted by the University or are all sites with something on it that falls into their “caution” protocols also slow?
How does semi-“RealClimate” or other CAGW sites load at UofA?

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Bob Trower
May 7, 2015 2:27 pm

Holy guacamole, Batman!

Kirkc
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
May 7, 2015 5:18 pm

Lol!!

Kirkc
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
May 7, 2015 5:21 pm

A lot!!

Kirkc
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
May 7, 2015 5:30 pm

still laughing at the guacamole … That was epic… But my connection has never stumbled on this page. I load it three or four times a day and it takes only seconds to complete. Never had a problem from up here in remote wilds of Canada. Don’t change a thing Anthony.

May 7, 2015 9:06 am

Working FINE from the Public WiFi at the city health club in Minnetonka MN
And there are OTHER sites here which are “slow”.
Max

Leo Morgan
May 7, 2015 9:38 am

I’m skeptical. But if I don’t try to test it, I’m not truly skeptical. I’ll test my local library, and ask a South Australian relative to check it out, and I’ll report back.

Darrin
May 7, 2015 10:08 am

I was having an issue with WUWT loading about a year ago along with some other sites. I blocked all advertising and no longer have problems loading though there are some videos I cant watch without switching browsers.

nutso fasst
May 7, 2015 10:16 am

Youtube videos increase load time.

jmichna
May 7, 2015 11:14 am

It’s possible that issues such as described come from (poor/outdated) cached DNS data. For our home PCs (running Win Vista and Win7 Pro) I wrote a small batch command that we keep handy whenever we get any hangups resolving web sites. Use Notepad to create a simple text document, name it, using *.bat as the filename extension:
E.g., RenewDNS.bat
@echo
ipconfig/release
ipconfig/renew
pause
I used the ‘pause’ command so I could make certain the batch file successfully completed. You don’t even need to close your browser… just minimize, run the batch command, then refresh the problem site in the browser. Hope this helps.

Bijan Nemati
May 7, 2015 12:15 pm

Here at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, it seems to load fast – no slowdown here.

E.M.Smith
Editor
May 7, 2015 2:42 pm

I didn’t read every comment, but a quick scan didn’t show mention of DNS. Poor choice of DNS servers can kill load speed. I just went through this with bringing up an old machine. Of 3 DNS servers 2 were no longer live. Taking 2 failed DNS requests before a valid one completes really slows things down. Add a heavy page weight site with lots of lookups can stretch to minutes.
This may not be noticed with, for exemple, inside company connection to servers your company has listed in the internal DNS, but show on lookups that leave the local cache.
When testing page speeds, always include an explicite test of DNS lookups.
I now use a Raspberry Pi for a $35 caching DNS Server so most lookups don’t hit the internet and things are much faster…

jmichna
Reply to  E.M.Smith
May 7, 2015 10:19 pm

Check comment at 11:14 a.m. (two above yours). šŸ˜‰

Michael 2
May 7, 2015 5:51 pm

Enable “keepalive”. That makes a huge difference especially for SSL. If you are working through a proxy (likely the case at a university) then you don’t really have a choice in the matter.
Without keepalive, if you have 300 objects on your web page, the browser initiates 300 connections; and if you are behind a NAT, then it has to set up 300 dynamic translations and if everyone on campus is doing that you could run out of TCP port numbers (only 65535 iin total and 1024 are reserved). This will cause a connection failure and your browser will retry again and again until a translation becomes available.
But a “keepalive” reuses the same TCP connection so is much faster. Still, it will require a new connection for each unique URL (host/domain) requested.
Shunt some advertising sites via your “hosts” file to 127.0.0.1. In windows, c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts. The entries are one host per line “127.0.0.1 http://www.facebook.com” and what will happen is it will cause instant failure rather than a timeout, greatly speeding up the loading of everything else while reducing clutter.
Advertisers know you can do this so the more clever ones morph the hostname part regularly making it hard to maintain your hosts file. A slick little tool for Linux is called “dnsproxy” and it can wildcard the host part.
I was provoked to this by Huffington Post which has absolutely the busiest, piggiest, slowest-rendering webpages I have ever seen. WordPress sites aren’t all that bad and my old Linux box handles them just fine.

Michael 2
May 7, 2015 5:53 pm

Another thing — in Windows, check your internet options, connection tab. advanced, and UNCHECK “automatically detect proxy”. That’s almost always a performance killer. If you actually do have a proxy then manual configuration is probably better.

Cold in Wisconsin
May 7, 2015 7:33 pm

Is this what we have to look forward to if the government gets to regulate the Internet? Kind of scary.

greg holmes
May 8, 2015 1:51 am

So far you load fine on my computer here in the UK, I use BT internet, but no doubt the “land of free” defenders are watching.

dmacleo
May 8, 2015 5:48 am

misconfigured proxy.
proxy config probably not taking into account ads on site or mixed https content.

May 9, 2015 10:34 am

I’d bet for incompatibility of WUWT ads with some feature of the server. Google has problems. And there’s the possibility of a link to a site that is blocked by the Or a bad word in something, one municipality’s system is bad for false blocking.
Blocks do exist, years ago the Richmond Public Library (in B.C.) was blocking capitalismmagazine.com. They were using a service of some kind, I’ll try to find it in my records.
At the time CM started using capmag.com to get around such, the silly service wasn’t blocking that URL.

Reply to  Keith Sketchley
May 11, 2015 8:33 am

I canā€™t find info on the blocking service used by the Richmond library, I donā€™t remember the symptom but I doubt it was slowness though IIRC it was subtle.
Iā€™ve seen the phenomenon of slowness from poorly coded links and from slow external servers. (One naive but good person had coded the PayPal button on her page to link to PayPal automatically, instead of only when the user commands the button. For some reason PayPal was often slow to respond, perhaps the link was to the wrong part of their site.)
But those arenā€™t likely the cause here.
(Blocking of high-volume traffic is common to ensure capacity is available for all users, BC Ferries does that and blocks by content as well. Such blocking is often poorly done.
And ISPs are variable, Shaw in Canada is bad. And there are organizational uses that overwhelm the network, one company had real-time simulation traffic going over its internal network at times.)