Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball
The world focus on CO2 is simply the end objective of a much larger political agenda. The Club of Rome (COR) and then UNEP’s Agenda 21 under Maurice Strong created a political agenda based on certain assumptions all related to overpopulation.
1. The world and all nations are overpopulated.
2. All population growth is at an unsustainable rate.
3. All nations are using up resources at an unsustainable rate.
4. Developed Nations use resources at a much greater rate than Developing Nations.
5. Developed Nations achieved wealth using fossil fuel driven industries.
6. Developed Nations must pay compensation to Developing Nations for benefits gained at their expense and for hardships and adaptation costs involved in dealing with climate change created by CO2.
7. Reducing activities of Developed Nations and slowing growth of Developing Nations requires a world government.
8. Once a world government is established population control can progress.
Global warming and climate change are simply the emotional threats used to confront overpopulation. The problem is the world is not overpopulated.
The current attack on Developed Nations includes punishment for their success, and for the redistribution of their ill-gotten wealth. It is ironic that they chose Thomas Malthus (1766 – 1834) and his ideas as the basis for their agenda because he argued that increased prosperity was hampered not by inequality of wealth but too many people unable or unwilling to create wealth. He didn’t want across the spectrum population reduction, just a reduction of those who were holding society back. His views and proposals are markedly different than the socialist solutions of Agenda 21. His major work, An Essay on the Principle of Population, proposed what today’s socialists would consider completely unacceptable reasoning and solutions. He wanted the government to end policies that encouraged people to have more children. Instead of reducing the population totally and taking from the wealthy to give to the poor, he wanted fewer poor people born.
The Club of Rome, under the facade of saving the planet, adopted and expanded the work of Thomas Malthus as an agenda for population control. As one group explains,
Malthus was a political economist who was concerned about, what he saw as, the decline of living conditions in nineteenth century England. He blamed this decline on three elements: The overproduction of young; the inability of resources to keep up with the rising human population; and the irresponsibility of the lower classes. To combat this, Malthus suggested the family size of the lower class ought to be regulated such that poor families do not produce more children than they can support.
This is important for the modern debate because overpopulation is still central and the driving force behind the use of climate change as a political vehicle.
Malthus blamed government social policy and charity for exacerbating the overpopulation problem by encouraging people to have more children. As he explained,
I entirely acquit Mr Pitt of any sinister intention in that clause of his Poor Bill which allows a shilling a week to every labourer for each child he has above three. I confess, that before the bill was brought into Parliament, and for some time after, I thought that such a regulation would be highly beneficial, but further reflection on the subject has convinced me that if its object be to better the condition of the poor, it is calculated to defeat the very purpose which it has in view. It has no tendency that I can discover to increase the produce of the country, and if it tend to increase the population, without increasing the produce, the necessary and inevitable consequence appears to be that the same produce must be divided among a greater number, and consequently that a day’s labour will purchase a smaller quantity of provisions, and the poor therefore in general must be more distressed.
Malthus’ objective was to reform or eliminate the Poor Laws and curtail charity. Unfortunately, his argument lacked hard evidence, and the examples he used were not relevant. For example, he used US population increase that more than doubled from 2 million in 1775 to 4.3 million in 1800. He failed to identify immigration as the major reason for the increase.
Malthus had a crucial influence on the theory of evolution, as Darwin acknowledged in his 1876 autobiography.
“In October 1838, that is, fifteen months after I had begun my systematic inquiry, I happened to read for amusement Malthus on Population, and being well prepared to appreciate the struggle for existence which everywhere goes on from long- continued observation of the habits of animals and plants, it at once struck me that under these circumstances favourable variations would tend to be preserved, and unfavourable ones to be destroyed. The results of this would be the formation of a new species. Here, then I had at last got a theory by which to work”.
Darwin demanded evidence to support any theory but somehow overlooked it for Malthus. However, he clearly liked the idea of “favourable” (desirable) or “unfavourable” undesirable traits. It suited his acceptance and inclusion in the sixth edition of Origins of Species of Spencer’s phrase “survival of the fittest”. The problem is Malthus
Malthus and Darwin also ignored technology apparently because they were only interested in biological evolution. They didn’t include the Agricultural Revolution that preceded the Industrial Revolution. This omission still pervades society today as many assume evolution has stopped. It is also central to the underlying theme of environmentalism that technology is a dangerous anomaly in human development. It underscores creation of the meaningless term sustainable development.
Alarmism over population growth was central to the ideas of the Club of Rome. It received momentum through Paul Ehrlich’s even more egregious and incorrect book, “The Population Bomb.” The fact that every single prediction Ehrlich and John Holdren, advisor to President Obama for Science and Technology made, have proved completely wrong doesn’t stop extremists seeing the need for total control. Some believe people should not exist. Holdren thinks they should be limited and controlled as detailed in a list of his totalitarian proposals.
· Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
· The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
· Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
· People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
· A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
Crucial to all alarmism is a mechanism to bypass public resistance to draconian controls, especially in the US with its constitutional guarantees. Holdren proposed a method for bypassing the Constitution by using the Constitution. He wrote,
Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.
It sounds very official, legal and plausible until you realize how it cedes control. He is the person who explains how the Constitution could be used in for this purpose. He is the one who decides when the crisis is sufficiently severe to endanger the society. This technique is applicable to any perceived threat, including climate change.
Holdren told his Senate confirmation hearing that he no longer held his views and refused to answer media questions about the views expressed in Human Ecology. His actions and support of global warming and climate change contradict the assertion. Certainly de-development, which is achieved by eliminating fossil fuels, is central. In a 2010 interview, he was asked to explain the thinking behind views expressed in Human Ecology.
CNSNews.com asked: “You wrote ‘a massive campaign must be launched to restore a high quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States’ in your book Human Ecology. Could you explain what you meant by de-develop the United States?”
Holdren responded: “What we meant by that was stopping the kinds of activities that are destroying the environment and replacing them with activities that would produce both prosperity and environmental quality. Thanks a lot.”
Sir John Houghton, the first co-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and lead editor of the first three IPCC Reports, confronted the overpopulation issue differently. In an article for the Global Conversation in Lausanne in 2010;
First let me write a few words about God and science. A few prominent scientists are telling us that God does not exist and science is the only story there is to tell. To argue like that, however, is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of what science is about. At the basis of all scientific work are the ‘laws’ of nature – for instance, the laws of gravity, thermodynamics and electromagnetism, and the puzzling concepts and mathematics of quantum mechanics. Where do these laws come from? Scientists don’t invent them; they are there to be discovered. With God as Creator, they are God’s laws and the science we do is God’s science.
The Earth is the Lord’s and everything in it (Psalm 24), and Jesus is the agent and redeemer of all creation (John 1:2; Colossians 1:16-20; Ephesians 1:16). As we, made in God’s image, explore the structure of the universe that God has made with all its fascination, wonder and potential, we are engaging in a God given activity. Many of the founders of modern science three or four hundred years ago were Christians pursuing science for the glory of God. I and many other scientists today are privileged to follow in their footsteps.
A special responsibility that God has given to humans, created in His image, is to look after and care for creation (Genesis 2:15). Today the impacts of unsustainable use of resources, rapidly increasing human population and the threat of climate change almost certainly add up to the largest and most urgent challenge the world has ever had to face – all of us are involved in the challenge, whether as scientists, policy makers, Christians or whoever we are.
The COR and its manifestation Agenda 21’s arguments are considered neo-Malthusian because they expand his hypothesis to say that the population will outgrow all resources. The threat was laid out in the COR book Limits To Growth. It became the format for all subsequent claims, including those of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Based on totally inadequate data including on population and resource reserves, it was subjected to analysis using very restricted development mechanisms and forced through a computer model to a predetermined result. Economist Julian Simon challenged the hypothesis of The Limits with a bet that resulted in an empirical study. Simon won the battle but lost the war. It is 35 years since Simon made the bet, but still most believe the world is running out of resources.
So the resource and population predictions are wrong, which is not surprising because Malthus was wrong about both. However, many still want to control and limit population. A summary of their proposals is revealing.
- Malthus wanted population reduction, but he decides which group must decline, but he was a church minister.
- As an atheist Darwin says nature will limit numbers, but that’s confusing because humans are natural.
- Houghton wants numbers to decline but claims God gave him the authority to decide.
- Holdren wants numbers to decline but since he or the political party he supports is superior to everybody they will decide.
The insanity of it all is that none of what they think matters because there is no overpopulation, no shortage of resources or any connection between CO2 and climate change. It is a story of science without evidence or at best-concocted evidence from Malthus through the COR to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Thomas Malthus wanting less poor people to be born smacks a bit like Margaret Sanger wanting fewer undesirable people to be born.
Interestingly enough, they both appeal to liberals, looking for an excuse to use govt to control the actions of others.
I am just a Simple Red Neck. Please explain again to me why it is wrong to compare these people to NAZIs.
Jon,
Because to do so expose you to the Internet meme that all discussions end up with somebody being compared to Nazis. Even if it appropriate, it is dismissed. I say The NAZIs were just 75 years ahead of their time. Were they in power now, nobody would bat an eye. Extermination of the infirmed, breeding a better man, heck, you can get a government grant for that now or get google to fund you as per Ray Kurtzweils efforts.
Nazi is a bad word. Nazi ideas are now mainstream.
Paul Westhaver
Rather, the Nazi’s (National Socialist) were blood enemies of the Communists for control of German and Austria labor unions and government (then, as Mussolini came into power in Italy, the national socialists down there fought the communist socialist across that state.) To date, no US or Euro “progressive” movement has ever opposed the totalitarian communist regimes anywhere, nor have any opposed the tyranny and 120 million innocent deaths caused by communism in the 20th century. You need to note it is the “right-wing” / “left wing” language of the communist movement – then, across the 1917-1992 period, and into today that (so far, very successfully) links today’s conservatives with the Nazi themes.
well…ignoramuses link conservatism with the name of nazism…alllll the timmmmeee!
meanwhile the left, is busy advancing nearly every aspect of German National Socialism in nearly every country, which includes eugenics, antisemitism, Christian hate, gun confiscation, bank controls, free speech limits, and finally fascism, an artifact of the intolerant left.
The Black Plague coupled with global cooling ending the Medieval Warm Period led to the peasants gaining political and economic power from the elites who suddenly discovered the rent-paying peasants could flee their estates.
Overpopulated eh? Just a couple of quick facts:
1) If every individual on the planet today was asked to be in a group photo, then the stage would be about the size of Rhode Island, and would allow for people to maintain their arms length personal space.
2) The US Census Bureau recently estimated the amount of undeveloped land for the US to be about 94.6%. I believe that estimate came from the population records from the 2000 Census.
@BernardP
“What are the end benefits for Man and the Environment of cramming more and more people on Earth?”
The benefits are for Man, and they are huge.
Julian Simon has pointed out that raw materials are NOT resources. The ancient Greeks had an abundance of uranium, but it wasn’t a resource for them because they didn’t know how to use it. It is raw materials PLUS human ingenuity which provides all the advanced resources which we enjoy today.
Then Simon asked “where do you get human ingenuity from?”. And the answer is humans. the more humans you have, the more ideas and ingenuity you have, THAT is the benefit which an increased population brings. Imagine living in a world where only 100 people existed in each country. How many advances do you think you would get in a lifetime?
In The Rational Optimist, Chapter 2, Matt Ridley cites Tasmania as an example of technological regression due to underpopulation. When rising sea level cut the island off from Australia about 10,000 years ago, there weren’t enough people to maintain the then-current level of technology (not enough to fill all the specialties needed), so they gradually lost the knowledge to make some of the tools their ancestors had brought to the island.
DG, I don’t think many who worry about overpopulation are very concerned about well being of people. They are more concerned about the flora and fauna.
What under developed nations need the most is FREEDOM because freedom is the reason why developed nations have prospered wildly. Many resource rich countries suffer from crushing poverty because they’re run by despotic governments. Many have oil, use oil and sell oil. Their problem isn’t a lack of resources but a lack of FREEDOM. So taxing the free to give to the dictators will only strengthen and perpetuate mass oppression and poverty.
Ironically (and sadly), overthrowing free nations seems to be the central goal behind the Environmental movement. It’s as if there were a deceiving, malevolent spirit behind this that hates human beings.
Thanks, Dr. Ball. I’m afraid you’re right. ;-(
Here is an absolute treasure!
The History of the World in Four Minutes
by Saul Bass
That’s brilliant.
By the way, poor people in developing countries have many more children because so many die young (because they’re poor) and everything is labor intensive (because they’re poor) and they need lots of children to take care of them in their dotage (because they’re poor).
People in developed countries have trouble even replacing their populations. THE SOLUTION IS BLAZINGLY OBVIOUS: RAISE THE STANDARD OF LIVING IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES.
At 8:09 PM on 27 April, LarryFine observes:
That’s not so much a solution (“RAISE THE STANDARD OF LIVING” among the various Woggistans of the Third World) as an objective, and here we necessarily get into a discussion of political economics.
What is the cause of material wealth?
Not just “how can we make poor people wealthy” (the most expeditious route is always by way of what I like to call “the Huey Long solution;” listen to “Every Man a King” sometime), but what gives rise to wealth – because wealth doesn’t “just happen” – in the first place.
How do you make people wealthy? You can’t.
People will naturally make themselves wealthy, so long as that wealth isn’t being stolen by govt as soon as it’s created.
“Some believe people should not exist.”
The people who are necessary for my well-being should exist. I don’t see any point in the rest.
The people who are necessary for your well-being would ultimately include everyone.
Because the people who directly impact you, need people to help support them.
And those people need people who help provide for them.
And so on, till the ends of the earth.
MarkW “The people who are necessary for your well-being would ultimately include everyone.”
Incorrect. A dozen or two is probably sufficient. I am pretty sure that you could eliminate every person on welfare everywhere on Earth without the slightest detriment to my well-being, and by reducing the tax burden on society it would actually improve my well-being.
If Africa vanished and all of its life, I doubt I would notice.
Siberia doesn’t seem to be doing a lot for me; obviously your mileage varies.
I suppose if I included everyone that had anything to do with what I do I might end up with a thousand or a few thousand people.
I don’t want people to impact me, and especially not with bad punctuation.
(“The people who are necessary for your well-being would ultimately include everyone because the people who directly impact you need people to help support them” is correct.)
My concern is for the people who affect me in a positive way.
“If Africa vanished and all of its life, I doubt I would notice.”
And all the Americas, except for Canada. (I have cousins there.) Most of Asia seems surplus to requirements, as well. I would like to retain some bits, and a few bits of Europe.
As you say, mileage varies.
The COR obviously cooked up this Agenda 21 drivel before aquaponics and fogponics existed. It is now possible to grow 100 times as much food for the same area of land as before.
I read somewhere, that using aquaponics, all of the world’s food could be grown in a building 1 mile square and one mile high.
MarkW “all of the world’s food could be grown in a building 1 mile square and one mile high.”
That’s nothing, I can do it in one cubic foot. The world would not have much life as a consequence.
“Darwin demanded evidence to support any theory but somehow overlooked it for Malthus. ”
I don’t think Darwin was saying Malthus had it right (Malthus wanted to interfere with the process). Rather, Malthus’s idea of the ‘problems’ with ‘unfavorable’ critters opened Darwin’s eyes to what was actually going on naturally to improve the situation in nature – unfavorable creatures went extinct. You can get a brilliant idea from someone else’s wrong idea.
Charles Beard, a preeminent American Historian of the early 20th century dismissed Darwin as totally dependent on Malthus’ thought for his Origin of the Species.
“Overpopulation” is a value judgement as to what is the optimum living standards for a region. People who live in remote rural areas start feeling crowded when someone builds a new home 5 miles down the road from where they live. In Hong Kong overcrowding happens when the number of roommates living in a tiny efficiency apartment goes past 5.
The earth does have finite resources, that does not mean humanity’s ability to exploit those resources have been demonstrated finite. Since first discovering how to use fire, we continue to have a remarkable capacity for finding new and better ways to generate energy. In terms of food, our crop yield capability continues to increase. and as yet has no demonstrable limit.
In terms of economics, that is a value judgement as well. Economic hardship for some is not being able to afford a 70 inch HDTV. Poverty has always been with us, the question is how much poverty can a society sustain? The usual answer is when the peasants rebel.
So for humanity, overpopulation is subjective and a political question. For mother nature if she finds humanities population has reached an unacceptable level she has many natural tools at her disposal to remedy the situation.
No idea if embedding of this image will work. If it does work, it is a poster I am recommending hanging in IPCC offices.
Nope didn’t work…further research is required…
Paul Ehrlich has been so absurdly wrong in all his predictions that he deserves that his surname becomes a new word. An “Ehrlich” prediction is a prediction of end-of-the-world doom, charged with predjudice, that is based on simplistic assumptions and ignorance of important facts, and which as a result proves to be laughably false.
I always got the sense that Ehrlich WANTED a catastrophic end. The man’s a ghoul.
Malthus was wrong, but the theory provides good cover for empowering the elitists. Keynesian economics don’t work, either. But politicians and big government statists love Keynesian economics because it gives them more power and more control. Socialism doesn’t work but — same thing. It gives the appearance of helping people but the reality is it empowers government.
Ultimately it is all about keeping the power elite – in power.
The problem is not that there is a lack of resources, it is that in every culture an elite develops which steals everything for themselves, and works to prevent any innovation that may challenge their supremacy. Here is a decent analysis:
http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Complex-Societies-Studies-Archaeology/dp/052138673X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430256602&sr=8-1&keywords=tainter
Of course, you have to read between the lines.
This is indeed a gloomy subject, which Tim Ball has analyzed and presented wonderfully, for our consideration.
This is also one of the most gloomy threads I have ever read. The Baby Boomers need to wake up. Does the Cannabis Generation continue to put its trust and hope in illegitimate births, pharmaceutical and mechanical methods of birth control, and the culling of the next generation? Does the culling really stop with us, GenerationX? Or don’t you yet understand that the culling will include others as well? And when age is considered to be a burden, do you expect to escape your own policies? Will you become inconvenient?
You really need to repent and quit pretending like you do not see what has happened, and how through Obamacare you will even try to force the rest of us to pay for medical eugenics. ~GenX
Zeke commented “The Baby Boomers need to wake up.”
Why? How did it fall into your purview to decide who needs to wake up and who does not?
“Does the Cannabis Generation continue to put its trust and hope in illegitimate births…”
I have no idea. I think by changing definitions and customs there will be no such thing as illegitimate births. No one will know who their daddy (or mommy) is. Family reunions will be all siblings of a particular batch number. The Marxist ideal in other words.
“when age is considered to be a burden, do you expect to escape your own policies?”
I seem to have misplaced my own policies; it seems they have escaped me!
“Will you become inconvenient?”
Probably; that’s a lot better than becoming incontinent.
The rest of your comment is incomprehensible.
What is generally not understood is that the resources available to human beings are a function of the human mind. A rock is just a rock until a human being figured out that the rock could be refined to extract useful materials.
Through this lens, our resources are increasing, and not reducing, as the number of human minds increases. The increase in brain power drives increasing technological innovation and the availability of natural resources for use. This is the reason that Erlich and the Malthusians are always so wrong, they fail to illustrate that the ultimate resource is increasing and instead choose to focus on scare tactics to achieve their own agenda.
Is there eventually a population limit? I say no. The only things limiting us as a species is our confinement to a single planet, and a ruling class that focuses on controlling the existing pie rather than expanding it. Our planet will continue to support our population until we break free of these bonds.
Well said pete. I would go further and say that everything is renewable if the appropriate time scale is chosen with the opposite being equally true.
The human brain can make anything available or deny us access to anything at all. To paraphrase Homer Simpson, we are both the cause of and solution to all of our problems. Unfortunately the wilfully ignorant seem to be in the ascendancy at the moment but that too shall pass.
Pick up any book delving into the history of eugenics and its horrifying endgame and you’ll see the same kind of god-complex by social engineers who want to reshape humanity to their standards.
If the fact are not going according to a theory it’s the theory is wrong or miscalculate an element.
The problem of Malthus theory ?
so easy to understand for stupids that it cannot be wrong (and the politicians are finally only clever to manage to be elected and for the rest they are very often in the category of stupids)
geometric progression of population
arithmetic production of production
obviously bring penury!
Since this penury do not happen what is wrong ?
The absence of the term
tendency to exponential of Knowledge
who is going to pay your retirement ? the robots of course ! provided that you give me money to buy what they produce.
End of energy?
gas coal Methane clathrate thorium and then nuclear fusion (whom may be closer than we think)
End of energy concern.
Stupidity ?
Think to the Fabians Society Novlang is widely diffused 1984 ?
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“In Searching For A New Enemy To Unite Us, We Came Up With The Threat Of Global Warming”
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