Chaos & Climate – Part 1: Linearity

Guest Essay by Kip Hansen

clip_image002“…we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled nonlinear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”

– IPCC AR4 WG1

 

 

 

 

 

Introduction:

The IPCC has long recognized that the climate system is 1) nonlinear and therefore, 2) chaotic. Unfortunately, few of those dealing in climate science – professional and citizen scientists alike – seem to grasp what this really means. I intend to write a short series of essays to clarify the situation regarding the relationship between Climate and Chaos. This will not be a highly technical discussion, but an even-handed basic introduction to the subject to shed some light on just what the IPCC means when it says “we are dealing with a coupled nonlinear chaotic system” and how that should change our understanding of the climate and climate science.

My only qualification for this task is that as a long-term science enthusiast, I have followed the development of Chaos Theory since the late 1960s and during the early 1980s often waited for hours, late into the night, as my Commodore 64 laboriously printed out images of strange attractors on the screen or my old Star 9-pin printer.

PART 1: Linearity

In order to discuss nonlinearity, it is best to start with linearity. We are talking about systems, so let’s look at a definition and a few examples.

Edward Lorenz, the father of Chaos Theory and a meteorologist, in his book “The Essence of Chaos” gives this:

Linear system: A system in which alterations of an initial state will result in proportional alterations in any subsequent state.

In mathematics there are lots of linear systems. The multiplication tables are a good example: x times 2 = y. 2 times 2 = 4. If we double the “x”, we get 4 times 2 = 8. 8 is the double of 4, an exactly proportional result.

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When graphing a linear system as we have above, we are marking the whole infinity of results across the entire graphed range. Pick any point on the x-axis, it need not be a whole number, draw a vertically until it intersects the graphed line, the y-axis value at that exact point is the solution to the formula for the x-axis value. We know, and can see, that 2 * 2 = 4 by this method. If we want to know the answer for 2 * 10, we only need to draw a vertical line up from 10 on the x-axis and see that it intersects the line at y-axis value 20. 2 * 20? Up from 20 we see the intersection at 40, voila!

[Aside: It is this feature of linearity that is taught in the modern schools. School children are made to repeat this process of making a graph of a linear formula many times, over and over, and using it to find other values. This is a feature of linear systems, but becomes a bug in our thinking when we attempt to apply it to real world situations, primarily by encouraging this false idea: that linear trend lines predict future values. When we see a straight line, a “trend” line, drawn on a graph, our minds, remembering our school-days drilling with linear graphs, want to extend those lines beyond the data points and believe that they will tell us future, uncalculated, values. This idea is not true in general application, as you shall learn. ]

Not all linear systems are proportional in that way: the ratio between the radius of a circle and its circumference is linear. C =2πR, as we increase the radius, R, we get a proportional increase in Circumference, in a different ratio, due to the presence of the constants in the equation: 2 and π.

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In the kitchen, one can have a recipe intended to serve four, and safely double it to create a recipe for 8. Recipes are [mostly] linear. [My wife, who has been a professional cook for a family of 6 and directed an institutional kitchen serving 4 meals a day to 350 people, tells me that a recipe for 4 multiplied by 100 simply creates a mess, not a meal. So recipes are not perfectly linear.]

An automobile accelerator pedal is linear (in theory) – the more you push down, the faster the car goes. It has limits and the proportions change as you change gears.

Because linear equations and relationships are proportional, they make a line when graphed.

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A linear spring is one with a linear relationship between force and displacement, meaning the force and displacement are directly proportional to each other. A graph showing force vs. displacement for a linear spring will always be a straight line, with a constant slope.

In electronics, one can change voltage using a potentiometer – turning the knob – in a circuit like this:

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In this example, we change the resistance by turning the knob of the potentiometer (an adjustable resistor). As we turn the knob, the voltage increases or decreases in a direct and predictable proportion, following Ohm’s Law, V = IR, where V is the voltage, R the resistance, and I the current flow.

Geometry is full of lovely linear equations – simple relationships that are proportional. Knowing enough side-lengths and angles, one can calculate the lengths of the remaining sides and angles. Because the formulas are linear, if we know the radius of a circle or a sphere, we can find the diameter (by definition), the area or surface area and the circumference.

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Aren’t these linear graphs boring? They all have these nice straight lines on them

Richard Gaughan, the author of Accidental Genius: The World’s Greatest By-Chance Discoveries, quips: “One of the paradoxes is that just about every linear system is also a nonlinear system. Thinking you can make one giant cake by quadrupling a recipe will probably not work. …. So most linear systems have a ‘linear regime’ –- a region over which the linear rules apply–- and a ‘nonlinear regime’ –- where they don’t. As long as you’re in the linear regime, the linear equations hold true”.

Linear behavior, in real dynamic systems, is almost always only valid over a small operational range and some models, some dynamic systems, cannot be linearized at all.

How’s that? Well, many of the formulas we use for the processes, dynamical systems, that make civilization possible are ‘almost’ linear, or more accurately, we use the linear versions of them, because the nonlinear version are not easily solvable. For example, Ian Stewart, author of Does God Play Dice?, states:

“…linear equations are usually much easier to solve than nonlinear ones. Find one or two solutions, and you’ve got lots more for free. The equation for the simple harmonic oscillator is linear; the true equation for a pendulum is not. The classic procedure is to linearize the nonlinear by throwing away all the awkward terms in the equation.

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In classical times, lacking techniques to face up to nonlinearities, the process of linearization was carried out to such extremes that it often occurred while the equations were being set up. Heat flow is a good example: the classical heat equation is linear, even before you try to solve it. But real heat flow isn’t, and according to one expert, Clifford Truesdell, whatever good the classical heat equation has done for mathematics, it did nothing but harm to the physics of heat.”

One homework help site explains this way: “The main idea is to approximate the nonlinear system by using a linear one, hoping that the results of the one will be the same as the other one. This is called linearization of nonlinear systems.” In reality, this is a false hope.

The really important thing to remember is that these linearized formulas of dynamical systems –that are in reality nonlinear – are analogies and, like all analogies, in which one might say “Life is like a game of baseball”, they are not perfect, they are approximations, useful in some cases, maybe helpful for teaching and back-of-an-envelope calculations – but – if your parameters wander out of the system’s ‘linear regime’ your results will not just be a little off, they risk being entirely wrong — entirely wrong because the nature and behavior of nonlinear systems is strikingly different than that of linear systems.

This point bears repeating: The linearized versions of the formulas for dynamic systems used in everyday science, climate science included, are simplified versions of the true phenomena they are meant to describe – simplified to remove the nonlinearities. In the real world, these phenomena, these dynamic systems, behave nonlinearly. Why then do we use these formulas if they do not accurately reflect the real world? Simply because the formulas that do accurately describe the real world are nonlinear and far too difficult to solve – and even when solvable, produce results that are, under many common circumstances, in a word, unpredictable.

Stewart goes on to say:

“Really the whole language in which the discussion is conducted is topsy-turvy. To call a general differential equation ‘nonlinear’ is rather like calling zoology ‘nonpachydermology’.”

Or, as James Gleick reports in CHAOS, Making of a New Science:

“The mathematician Stanislaw Ulam remarked that to call the study of chaos “nonlinear science” was like calling zoology “the study of non-elephant animals.”

Amongst the dynamical systems of nature, nonlinearity is the general rule, and linearity is the rare exception.

 

Nonlinear system: A system in which alterations of an initial state need not produce proportional alterations in any subsequent states, one that is not linear.

When using linear systems, we expect that the result will be proportional to the input. We turn up the gas on the stove (altering the initial state) and we expect the water to boil faster (increased heating in proportion to the increased heat). Wouldn’t we be surprised though, if one day we turned up the gas and instead of heating, the water froze solid! That’s nonlinearity! (Fortunately, my wife, the once-professional cook, could count on her stoves behaving linearly, and so can you.)

What kinds of real world dynamical systems are nonlinear? Nearly all of them!

Social systems, like economics and the stock market are highly nonlinear, often reacting non-intuitively, non-proportionally, to changes in input – such as news or economic indicators.

Population dynamics; the predator-prey model; voltage and power in a resistor: P = V²2R; the radiant energy emission of a hot object depending on its temperature: R = kT4; the intensity of light transmitted through a thickness of a translucent material; common electronic distortion (think electric guitar solos); amplitude modulation (think AM radios); this list is endless. Even the heating of water, as far as the water is concerned, on a stove has a linear regime and a nonlinear regime, which begins when the water boils instead of heating further. [The temperature at which the system goes nonlinear allowed Sir Richard Burton to determine altitude with a thermometer when searching for the source of the Nile River.] Name a dynamic system and the possibility of it being truly linear is vanishing small. Nonlinearity is the rule.

What does the graph of a nonlinear system look like? Like this:

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Here, a simple little formula for Population Dynamics, where the resources limit the population to a certain carrying capacity such as the number of squirrels on an idealized May Island (named for Robert May, who originated this work): xnext = rx(1-x). Some will recognize this equation as the “logistic equation”. Here we have set the carrying capacity of the island as 1 (100%) and express the population – x – in a decimal percentage of that carrying capacity. Each new year we start with the ending population of the previous year as the input for the next. r is the growth rate. So the growth rate times the population times the bit (1-x), which is the amount of the carrying capacity unused. The graph shows the results over 30 years using several different growth rates.

We can see many real life population patterns here:

1) With the relatively low growth rate of 2.7 (blue) the population rises sharply to about 0.6 of the carrying capacity of the island and after a few years, settles down to a steady state at that level.

2) Increasing the growth rate to 3 (orange) creates a situation similar to the above, except the population settles into a saw-tooth pattern which is cyclical with a period of two.

3) At 3.5 (red) we see a more pronounced saw-tooth, with a period of 4.

4) However, at growth rate 4 (green), all bets are off and chaos ensues. The slams up and down finally hitting a [near] extinction in the year 14 – if the vanishing small population survived that at all, it would rapidly increase and start all over again.

5) I have thrown in the purple line which graphs a linear formula of simply adding a little each year to the previous year’s population – xnext = x(1+(0.0005*year)) — slow steady growth of a population maturing in its environment – to contrast the difference between a formula which represents the realities of populations dynamics and a simplified linear versions of them. (Not all linear formulas produce straight lines – some, like this one, are curved, and more difficult to solve.) None of the nonlinear results look anything like the linear one.

 

Anyone who deals with populations in the wild will be familiar with Robert May’s work on this, it is the classic formula, along with the predator/prey formula, of population dynamics. Dr. May eventually became Princeton University’s Dean for Research. In the next essay, we will get back to looking at this same equation in a different way.

In this example, we changed the growth element of the equation gradually upwards, from 2.7 to 4 and found chaos resulting. Let’s look at one more aspect before we move on.

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This image shows the results of xnext = 4x(1-x), the green line in the original, extended out to 200 years. Suppose you were an ecologist who had come to May Island to investigate the squirrel population, and spent a decade there in the period circled in red, say year 65 to 75. You’d measure and record a fairly steady population of around 0.75 of the carrying capacity of the island, with one boom year and one bust year, but otherwise fairly stable. The paper you published based on your data would fly through peer review and be a triumph of ecological science. It would also be entirely wrong. Within ten years the squirrel population would begin to wildly boom-and-bust and possibly go functionally extinct in the 81st or 82nd year. Any “cause” assigned would be a priori wrong. The true cause is the existence of chaos in the real dynamic system of populations under high growth rates.

You may think this a trick of mathematics but I assure you it is not. Ask salmon fishermen in the American Northwest and the sardine fishermen of Steinbeck’s Cannery Row. Natural populations can be steady, they can ebb and flow, and they can be truly chaotic, with wild swings, booms and busts. The chaos is built-in and no external forces are needed. In our May Island example, chaos begins to set in when the squirrels become successful, their growth factor increases above a value of three and their population begins to fluctuate, up and down. When they become too successful, too many surviving squirrel pups each year, a growth factor of 4, disaster follows on the heels of success. For real world scientific confirmation, see this paper: Nonlinear Population Dynamics: Models, Experiments and Data by Cushing et. al. (1998)

Let’s see one more example of nonlinearity. In this one, instead of doing something as obvious as changing a multiplier, we’ll simply change the starting point of a very simple little equation:

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At the left of the graph, the orange line overwrites the blue, as they are close to identical. The only thing changed between the blue and orange is that the last digit of the initial value 0.543215 has been rounded up to 2, 0.54322, a change of 1/10000th, or rounded down to 0.54321, depending on the rounding rule, much as your computer, if set to use only 5 decimal places, would do, automatically, without your knowledge. In dynamical sciences, a lot of numbers are rounded up or down. All computers have a limited number of digits that they will carry in any calculation, and have their own built in rounding rules. In our example, the values begin to diverge at day 14, if these are daily results, and by day 19, even the sign of the result is different. Over the period of a month and a half, whole weeks of results are entirely different in numeric values, sign and behavior.

This is the phenomena that Edward Lorenz found in the 1960’s when he programmed the first computational models of the weather, and it shocked him to the core.

This is what I will discuss in the next essay in this series: the attributes and peculiarities of nonlinear systems.

Take Home Messages:

1. Linear systems are tame and predictable – changes in input produce proportional changes in results.

2. Nonlinear systems are not tame – changes in input do not necessarily produce proportional changes in results.

3. Nearly all real world dynamical systems are nonlinear, exceptions are vanishingly rare.

4. Linearized equations for systems that are, in fact, nonlinear, are only approximations and have limited usefulness. The results produced by these linearized equations may not even resemble the real world system results in many common circumstances.

5. Nonlinear systems can shift from orderly, predictable regimes to chaotic regimes under changing conditions.

6. In nonlinear systems, even infinitesimal changes in input can have unexpectedly large changes in the results – in numeric values, sign and behavior.

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Author’s Comment Reply Policy:

This is a fascinating subject, with a lot of ground to cover. Let’s try to have comments about just the narrow part of the topic that is presented here in this one essay which tries to introduce readers to linearity and nonlinearity. (What this means to Climate and Climate Science will come in further essays in the series.)

I will try to answer your questions and make clarifications. If I have to repeat the same things too many times, I will post a reading list or give more precise references.

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Raymond
March 15, 2015 2:59 pm

One of the strangest things with the article is that it seems to be an introduction about chaotic dynamical systems but it doesn’t even say what a dynamical system is and all examples except some plots are about (static) functions.
I would also say that the view that seems to be implied is not very correct. Non linearity doesn’t imply chaos or any problem with simulating the system. The large dependence on initial conditions that is an important concept in regard to chaos depends on the stability of the system and not on the linearity.
The article just seems to look at same systems with chaotic behavior, incorrectly claims that all non linear systems are chaotic so that people should draw the conclusion that the behavior shown is true for all non linear systems.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Raymond
March 15, 2015 3:06 pm

Chaos, and chaos theory, were invented to explain the behavior of computer simulations.

Raymond
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
March 15, 2015 3:17 pm

You might be correct but that doesn’t say anything about all systems that can be simulated without any problems or do you believe that non linear systems like a rocket or a car can’t be simulated with good accuracy?

Editor
Reply to  Raymond
March 15, 2015 3:45 pm

Reply to Raymond ==> Authors have to assume some level of common understanding or we would have to write dictionaries instead of essays. I quote the Wiki definition of dynamical systems above here.
Of course, my examples are themselves dynamical systems — population dynamics, etc.
Again, don’t let it escape you that many others seem to understand perfectly well what is being discussed here — which might lead to the realization that there is something here to learn. It is no shame not to be familiar with this topic — if everyone understood all this, I wouldn’t have written the essay. Your viewpoint is like that of most of the science world prior to the 1960s. They just couldn’t believe that these phenomena actually existed and were not just errors.
Beginning around then, the world of mathematics began to actively discover that the highly unusual behaviors they witnessed in their physical experiments were not caused by experimental errors or by bad lab equipment, but were, in fact, real results that could be found in the mathematics of their nonlinear functions.
The story of this discovery, which has changed science forever, is details in Gleick’s book: CHAOS Making A new Science. (see reading list). Highly recommended.
A brilliant validation of this is found in the Cushing et al paper linked in the essay.

Raymond
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 11:05 pm

Strange, I am an engineer with a PhD with my expertize in linear and non-linear dynamical systems. I simulate non linear dynamical systems daily and have taken many courses about dynamical systems and numerical methods after the sixties. The strange thing is that this revolution from the sixties that you talk about don’t really seems to have the implications that you say they have. I have also read Gleick by the way.
So what are your formal knowledge about the topic when you seems to easily believe that I am wrong?

Raymond
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 16, 2015 1:29 am

“Authors have to assume some level of common understanding or we would have to write dictionaries instead of essays.”
So you assume that people understand what a dynamical system is but you write an essays about linearity and non-linearity? I doubt that many people that know about dynamical systems don’t understand what a non-linear dynamical system is.
Based on the comments I would also say that many people don’t seem to grasp the meaning of a dynamical system.
“Again, don’t let it escape you that many others seem to understand perfectly well what is being discussed here — which might lead to the realization that there is something here to learn.”
I would rather say that it doesn’t seem that many people seem to understand what is discussed here.
“It is no shame not to be familiar with this topic — if everyone understood all this, I wouldn’t have written the essay.”
Why do you come up with such condensing drivel instead of actually answering the points I have made in my posts?
Do you really believe that all non linear dynamical systems are chaotic?
Do you really believe that all non linear dynamical systems are difficult to simulate and analys?

Reply to  Raymond
March 16, 2015 2:19 am

The trouble with you Raymond, with respect, is that yes, as an engineer you will have had to deal with and model many non linear systems that are not chaotic.
So have I myself. In fact as practising engineers we go to enormous lengths to keep our systems linear, or if we can’t arrange that, at least keep them out of chaotic regions. One designs a car to get to journey’s end, not fly into a thousand pieces at the first corner.
However that is a straw man relative to the arguments presented here: that the general case of a non linear dynamic system is that if it does exist in nature, its probably chaotic. Linear and non chaotic non-linear systems are very much the minority in Nature, but of course, because engineers seek predictability, they are the rule in most engineering.
If we were to design a stable climate, we certainly wouldn’t start from here…

Raymond
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 16, 2015 10:01 am

“However that is a straw man relative to the arguments presented here: that the general case of a non linear dynamic system is that if it does exist in nature, its probably chaotic. Linear and non chaotic non-linear systems are very much the minority in Nature”
Interesting, I guess that you have some references for that claim? I really doubt that it is the case.

Raymond
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 16, 2015 10:43 am

“The trouble with you Raymond, with respect, is that yes, as an engineer you will have had to deal with and model many non linear systems that are not chaotic.”
Why is that a problem with me? I read an essay written by Kip Hansen and found some quite obvious errors in the essay and some very strange things and have pointed out those. My comments have mostly been ignored by the author for same reasons even though I wanted to discuss them. Why?
My comments have definitely not been a strawman to the arguments presented in the essay but they might be a strawman against your view or what you think you should have been included in the essay or something like that. I don’t know because I cant read minds.
The first sentence in the essay is incorrect and at many places in the essay is he using non linear when it is incorrect and chaotic would be at least a little better. The view about non-linear systems in the essay is just strange or incorrect but if he wanted to talk about a certain class of systems he should have written that.

Robert of Ottawa
March 15, 2015 3:04 pm

Good post, As an engineer, I already understand this, but your explication is good for the general reader. Well done.
An engineer is someone who understands the perversity of inanimate matter.

Editor
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
March 15, 2015 3:22 pm

Reply to Robert of Ottawa ==> In my advancing years I take a self-formulated medication called “Damnital” — which bears on the label:
“Take one tablet as needed for Frustration and Peevishness brought on by old age and the perversity of others”.
As an engineer, you might try it to treat frustration caused by ” the perversity of inanimate matter.”
(The bottle contains white TicTacs as a placebo…but I don’t let myself know that.)

Justthinkin
March 15, 2015 3:20 pm

> Mr. Hansen….”As you know, graphing a logarithmic on a log scale is linear — a straight line.”
Yes…but the climate is not linear, so why do climate “scientists” insist on doing it, even when they don’t know the temp vs CO2 IS logarithmic. Of course graphing a log on a log scale is linear. But why do climate scientists insist on trying to graph linear and log together? Or am I missing something?

Editor
Reply to  Justthinkin
March 15, 2015 3:24 pm

Reply to Justthinkin ==> No, you didn’t miss anything. They also draw linear trends on nonlinear results.

Justthinkin
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 4:06 pm

Heh….Point taken. Can’t wait for the next installment.

Michael D
March 15, 2015 3:30 pm

Good post thanks Kip. I hope you address in your next post the issue of how the bounds of the chaotic system are influenced by the configuration parameters and the “chunking” of the parameters.
Climate, when viewed on a short time scale, we call “weather” and weather is famously chaotic (i.e. the butterfly effect), but within bounds. Climate on a longer time scale we call “seasons” and is I suspect less chaotic and even more bounded. Climate on a very long time scale seems to have a couple of strong attractors (e.g. ice age or warm period) but I have no idea how chaotic it is.
When a control system is superimposed on a nonlinear dynamical system it can reduce or eliminate the chaos at some time-scales. The critical question is: what environmental factors is Earth’s control system sensitive to (e.g. subsea thermal venting, increasing CO2) and how large do those factors have to be to “break” the control system and cause climate change?

Editor
Reply to  Michael D
March 15, 2015 3:48 pm

Reply to Michael ==> If I could answer your final question, I would win the Nobel Prize (they might just give me Al Gore’s).

Michael D
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 3:53 pm

I suppose you’re right. Do that please and congrats in advance on the Nobel ! 🙂

Janice Moore
March 15, 2015 3:41 pm

Ah, hm. Mr. Petschauer?
1. We’re not supposed to discuss CO2 and climate … yet (author’s request).
2. (this, in spite of #1) to at least alert other readers to investigate your claims before believing them)
In short: “You gotta lotta ‘splainin’ to do.” (but, not on this thread)
Your comment is a mixture of truth (“negative feedback from increased clouds and ocean evaporation will more than offset the positive feedback {of whatever causes it — NO causation by CO2 has yet been shown: none}”)
and a lot of
unsupported conjecture, some of which (“The surface temperature change from CO2 will be approximately linear with CO2 content.”) even flies in the face of observed evidence (18 years worth, now…).
For Pete’s sake, Petshauer,
CO2 UP. WARMING STOPPED.
(why do you think Trenberth et. al. so desperately seek heat in the deep oceans?)

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Janice Moore
March 15, 2015 4:49 pm

Janice, did you ever think of becoming a trial attorney? You just won your case.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
March 15, 2015 5:45 pm

Why, Rud Istvan, how kind of you to say so!
To answer your question: yes — many, many, many (sigh), times.
lol, I would only win if I could manage to pick a jury full of Rud Istvans. Defense attorneys do their best to keep engineers and the like off the jury. Oh-I-just-wonder-why… .
#(:))

Reply to  Janice Moore
March 17, 2015 6:38 pm

Janice Moore is right.
As Janice points out, the 18+ years of no global warming is dismissed with a wave of the hand.
But global warming has stopped, as CO2 continues to rise. That used to cause immense consternation among alarmists like Pteschauer, but no more. Now, they just hand-wave and pretend it didn’t happen.
Anything, except admit that their original conjecture has been demolished by Planet Earth.

Janice Moore
March 15, 2015 3:44 pm

Re: air turbulence and the MAGNIFICENT engineers who design air planes…
They have done a wonderful job of dealing with turbulence. A plane operates in an acceptably wide margin of safety thanks to those engineers.
They cannot with ANY confidence predict when that turbulence will occur and how great it will be.
In other words, you grossly mischaracterized Mr. Hansen’s point.

Reply to  Janice Moore
March 16, 2015 2:33 am

With respect Janice we CAN predict when turbulence occurs, and more or less how great it will be. Its critically related to viscosity and velocity.
What we cant predict is exactly what the effect will be at any given time at any given point.
Turbulent airflow is however something that lurks in regions that are clearly marked in red in the pilots manual.
Aeronautical engineers have to deal with it as an every day part of what they do, a huge amount of which is dedicated to making sure its kept to a minimum and never gets to dominate the aircraft’s behaviour, because if it does , nearly all bets are off.
That is really a total red herring though – a trail left by a pedant up-thread. Because where climate is concerned the proposition is that it IS dominated by ‘turbulent behaviour’ at some level or other.
If you are a creationist, you might argue that God, being a perfect Engineer, wouldn’t build in chaotic response within climate.
However as a practising engineer, I think God has made a p*ss-poor job of designing anything.
Incidentally, IIRC viscosity, which gives rise to turbulence, is the thing that actually makes flight possible.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
March 16, 2015 6:52 am

Thank you, Mr. Smith, for writing to educate me about air turbulence. Yes, I realized I overstated that part of my comment after I clicked “Post Comment” and just left it. I was wrong. Glad you corrected me. I do, though, stand by my point that the high confidence Mr. Petschauer places in his ability to predict atmospheric phenomena with high accuracy being misplaced.
I think God did a wonderful job of designing your brain… .
What do you think? 😉

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
March 16, 2015 6:55 am

“…. confidence …. being is misplaced.” (I changed “about” to “that” and didn’t make the other change!!). Yes, just for you, Mr. Smith, just for you.

March 15, 2015 3:46 pm

My time as a croupier has wonderful memories of mathematicians losing all their money on roulette. The sad part was watching them continue to come back, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, tweaking their “models” trying to crack the system.

Reply to  wickedwenchfan
March 15, 2015 3:47 pm

I am starting to see climatologists in the same light

Janice Moore
March 15, 2015 3:47 pm

So far, v. a v. the system called “earth,” “CO2 can effect” is unproven, unsupported, fizzle.

jakee308
March 15, 2015 4:05 pm

“coupled nonlinear chaotic system”
Think two females, one divorced, one never married, one very young, one middle aged.
And four cats.
Now predict the moods of each one of the women, their location in the house and the activity they are currently involved in and add in what the cats are up to and where they are.
There will be patterns of activity and location and long term repeating events but no predictability by any logical means can be determined.

Editor
Reply to  jakee308
March 15, 2015 4:36 pm

Reply to jakee308 ==> I hope you’re not an academic at some fancy college — professors get fired for making jokes that can “seem” misogynist to those with fertile and grasping imaginations. You might also get sanctioned by Cat Lovers of America.
[The mods wish to ensure that no cats, nor women, randomly populating any two-story houses used in this example, were harmed in the making of this example of catastrophic (er, chaotic) behavior. .mod]

jakee308
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 21, 2015 12:36 pm

Making a joke about women isn’t misogynistic (or at least shouldn’t be considered so) but I understand your point.
Also, I wasn’t going for “catastrophic behavior”, I was going for “Non-Linear Chaotic System” and gave a overly simplistic example from real life.
Sorry if the gender of my example obfuscated my intent.
It’s certainly possible that many such examples of human systems of interaction appear from the outside to be chaotic but seem quite rational and work quite well to those within that system.

Reply to  jakee308
March 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Are you implying that cats are moody, or that women are catty?

Patrick
Reply to  jakee308
March 15, 2015 7:13 pm

“jakee308
March 15, 2015 at 4:05 pm
“coupled nonlinear chaotic system””
Living in a flat with three women? That was nonliner and chaotic quite regularly.

Leonard Lane
March 15, 2015 4:23 pm

The first two graphs and another one further along do not represent linear systems or they are mis-plotted.
Look at the times 2 graph. for 2=0 it looks like the line intercepts the vertical axis at about the value of 1.
I am sure you did not mean to say 2×0 =1.

Editor
Reply to  Leonard Lane
March 15, 2015 4:53 pm

Reply to Leonard Lane ==> Good eyes! It is, however, simply an oddity of the online plotting tool I use, plot.ly.
I will be careful to include an unnecessary “0” value in each graph to eliminate this odd artifact. I will, in effect, include a 2×0=0 so that the program is forced to graph the zero point correctly.
Hopefully, like this:

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 4:55 pm

Well…image embedding doesn’t really work. Try looking here: https://plot.ly/~KipHansen/172

Editor
March 15, 2015 4:26 pm

Reply to Richard Petschauer and Janice ==> Airplanes. No engineer that designed airplanes would let anyone fly a design, even test pilots, that had not thoroughly and repeatedly passed air tunnel tests. It is in the air tunnel where all the hopefully avoided turbulence caused by the nonlinearities of fluid flow dynamics itself jumps out and shakes the airframe to pieces. CFD (computational fluid dynamics) software does its best to keep all the values within the linear regime….but because the basic natural world dynamical system (fluid flow) itself is nonlinear, some of these points are unknowable in advance. Even once tested in the wind tunnel and the problems found there are removed, some experimental designs break up in the air.
If I knew and could prove the answer to this question: “How much warming will CO2 really cause? ” I would claim Al Gore’s Nobel Prize.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 5:00 pm

Mr. Hansen! Why, in your reply just above, did you lump me in with PETSCHAUER? I was trying to support you in my replies to him. Aaaack. Was my writing that bad??
btw: Thank you for all your thoughtful, thorough, and prompt responses on this thread — wish ALL post authors would emulate you!
#(:))

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 6:17 pm

Reply to Janice ==> My reply was to you both–to the comment thread–because you both mentioned airplane design. That’s all.
I have appreciated your support here this evening — well aware of it. Thank you.
I hope Petschauer wasn’t likewise offended!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 6:27 pm

Well, lol, Mr. Hansen, Petschauer may have BEEN offended at being mentioned in the same sentence with me, however…
HE needed refuting/educating!
Thanks for your kind response to me.
#(:))

March 15, 2015 4:40 pm

I think there is confusion in this thread about linear vs non-linear functions, smooth vs non-smooth functions, and the behaviors of iterated functions.

garymount
March 15, 2015 4:49 pm

I would like to see the word ‘coupled’ defined in the context of the subject of this post, which I believe is either climate or climate models. I have yet to see a definition throughout my 5 years of research on the subject of climate science.
I have come across the definition in a book I am studying called ‘The Finite Element Method, Volume 1, The Basis, 5th edition, 708 pages, 26% read’. Which seemed to indicate that two separate materials with different mathematical equations for each that are part of the whole system under study make a ‘coupled’ system. Is that what ‘coupled’ means in our discussions here?

Editor
Reply to  garymount
March 15, 2015 4:57 pm

Reply to garymount ==> Good question, not part of this essay, which is an intro into linearity and nonlinearity.
Stay tuned for future episodes.

garymount
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 16, 2015 3:38 am

Ok, I have peeked ahead in my book and using this thing I found at the tail end of the book labeled ‘Subject Index’ I have been able to discover a definition of ‘coupled’. Here is what I found:
“Coupled problems – definition and classification
Frequently two or more physical systems interact with each other, with the independent solution of any one system being impossible without simultaneous solution of the others. Such systems are known as coupled and of course such coupling may be weak or strong depending on the degree of interaction.
“An obvious ‘coupled’ problem is that of dynamic fluid-structure interaction. Here neither the fluid nor the structural system can be solved independently of the other due to the unknown interface forces.
“A definition of coupled systems may be generalized to include a wide range of problems and their numerical discretization as: ^1
Coupled systems and formulations are those applicable to those applicable to multiple domains and dependent variable which usually (but not always) describe different physical phenomena and in which
(a) neither domain can be solved while separated from the other;
(b) neither set of dependent variables can be explicitly eliminated at the differential equation level.

1. O.C. Zienkiewicz. Coupled problems and their numerical solution. In Numerical Methods in Coupled Systems (EDS E.W. Lewis, P. Bettie and E. Hinton(, pp.65-68, John Wiley and Sons, Chichester, 1984.

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 16, 2015 5:56 am

Reply to garymount ==> Nicely done. Thank you for doing the research and reporting back to the readers here. Very thorough.

Raymond
Reply to  garymount
March 16, 2015 1:34 am

A coupled dynamical system is a system where the change of one state depends on the other states, i.e.the system of differential equations for the system are not diagonal.

Raymond
Reply to  Raymond
March 16, 2015 4:05 am

Gary, why so complicated? Here is some short information on coupled dynamical systems
http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/explore/vithyaspages/coupled.html

garymount
Reply to  Raymond
March 16, 2015 6:00 pm

“Why so complicated?”
Because I get paid by the LOC (Lines of Code) that I write 😉
Reference:
“In the PBS documentary Triumph of the Nerds, Microsoft executive Steve Ballmer criticized the use of counting lines of code:
In IBM there’s a religion in software that says you have to count K-LOCs, and a K-LOC is a thousand line of code. How big a project is it? Oh, it’s sort of a 10K-LOC project. This is a 20K-LOCer. And this is 50K-LOCs. And IBM wanted to sort of make it the religion about how we got paid. How much money we made off OS/2, how much they did. How many K-LOCs did you do? And we kept trying to convince them – hey, if we have – a developer’s got a good idea and he can get something done in 4K-LOCs instead of 20K-LOCs, should we make less money? Because he’s made something smaller and faster, less K-LOC. K-LOCs, K-LOCs, that’s the methodology. Ugh! Anyway, that always makes my back just crinkle up at the thought of the whole thing.

Justthinkin
March 15, 2015 4:50 pm

==>Max…explain please…”I think there is confusion in this thread about linear vs non-linear functions, smooth vs non-smooth functions, and the behaviors of iterated functions.”
TKS

highflight56433
March 15, 2015 4:55 pm

“From the analysis in this paper, since air passing over an airliner can be turbulent (brilliant), we can’t trust the engineers who design them” Wow! I don’t see any mention of aircraft aerodynamics. We better call Boeing…they need to know about those engineers. lol
“Planes might take off some days, but not others.” Yep…without a pilot those darn airplanes just don’t seem to take off!

n.n
March 15, 2015 4:57 pm

Chaos is aperiodic, long-term behavior in a deterministic system that exhibits sensitive dependence on initial conditions
— Strogatz, Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos
It seems like a good example of a chaotic process is the distribution of prime numbers.
Chaos is logically a property associated with a process that is incompletely or insufficiently characterized and unwieldy. A de facto condition that creates an insurmountable envelope for natural and enhanced human perception. This is presumably the motivation for invention of the scientific method that established a frame-based constraint in both time and space, and separate but intersecting scientific (i.e. deduction) and philosophical (i.e. inference) domains.

Editor
Reply to  n.n
March 15, 2015 5:06 pm

Reply to n.n ==> See reading list (to which this would be a good addition)…. not all agree with Strogatz’s defintion, it it would exclude common chaotic behaviors such as period doubling (which we get a hint of in the Population Dynamics example in the essay). Not only do chaotic dynamic systems exhibit periods, period doubling, breaks into chaos (per Strogatz’s defintion), but the areas of chaos break back into periodic behaviors and then return to chaos.
The common example of this will be presented in my next essay. (You can see it in this image.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 5:47 pm

Period doublings/bifurcations as a symptom of chaos are more common in finely descretized systems (faucet drip per second) than in coarser descretized systems (squirrels per year). Is an artifice of the time resolution, not the underlying system dynamics. Just math.

Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 6:25 pm

Reply to Rud ==> Did you read the Cushing et all (1998) paper? They claim to find period doubling and strange attractors in lab experiments with living flour beetle cultures — which belies the point “Is an artifice of the time resolution, not the underlying system dynamics.” (I think!) Take a look at it and let me know how it seems to you.

n.n
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 6:53 pm

I misrepresented the character of the quote. Strogatz describes that definition as the greatest common denominator of the different perspectives capable of reaching a consensus.
My perspective is that chaotic systems are comprised of indefinite, semi-stable periods where statistical inference and forecasts become momentarily valid. They are analogous to the scientific domain where accuracy is inversely proportionate to the product of time and space offsets from an established reference. In fact, the variable scope of the scientific domain is established by the constraints imposed by chaotic processes.
The most common example of a chaotic system is a human being, which has a global source: “conception”, a global sink: “death”, and an evolutionary (i.e. chaotic) transition.
A chaotic process is a complex, piecewise continuous, nonlinear function comprised of piecewise linear or perhaps closely bounded segments, that cannot be represented or estimated with a known distribution function, other than over indefinite spans.

March 15, 2015 5:09 pm

“…nonlinear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”
This is quite incorrect. Turbulence is a chaotic system but it is quite predictable. If it wasn’t, aeroplanes would not be able to fly. Navier-Stokes allows us to predict in even greater detail the effects of chaotic fluid flows. The difficulty is that Navier-Stokes is so complex, it can only be solved for very simple systems. The magnitude of difficulty in solving true climate models using Navier-Stokes (such true models don’t exist) is so complex, that they will NEVER be solved, even with finite element methods on the largest computers imaginable.

Editor
Reply to  Tony
March 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Reply to Tony ==> I would suggest that turbulence is not predictable — one might be able to predict its occurrence above certain levels of some input but not the results of the turbulence — see a discussion above on airplane designs and why they use wind tunnels. There are many that claim the Navier-Stokes in reality is nonlinear and that we use only a linearized version of its reality.

Justthinkin
March 15, 2015 5:34 pm

==> Max….darn. Sorry forgot to add this quote…” Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way the are”…Bertolt Brecht.

Reply to  Justthinkin
March 15, 2015 6:20 pm

That’s a simple harmonic notion.

zemlik
March 15, 2015 5:41 pm

I’ve been on here a few weeks now and I can see contributors are wanting to know the outcome of studies in a truthful presentation.

March 15, 2015 6:09 pm

Here is my cartoon contribution to Sunday Funny … and nonlinear dynamics.
http://www.maxphoton.com/straight-talk-on-art/

bones
March 15, 2015 6:12 pm

Was it intended that this discussion should become chaotic?

Editor
Reply to  bones
March 15, 2015 6:31 pm

Reply to bones ==> No, but with nonlinear discussions, one can never be sure of the outcome.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 15, 2015 6:34 pm

+1

Seth
March 15, 2015 6:42 pm

The quote attribution is wrong. It’s from the third assessment report. §14.2.2.2
“In climate research and modelling, we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible. The most we can expect to achieve is the prediction of the probability distribution of the system’s future possible states by the generation of ensembles of model solutions”

Editor
Reply to  Seth
March 16, 2015 6:16 am

Reply to Seth ==> I believe you are right — it should be TAR. Thank you for the correction
It is in Chapter 14, titled “Advancing Our Understanding”, Executive Summary:

Improve methods to quantify uncertainties of climate projec-
tions and scenarios, including development and exploration
of long-term ensemble simulations using complex models.

The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system,
and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states
is not possible. Rather the focus must be upon the prediction
of the probability distribution of the system’s future possible
states by the generation of ensembles of model solutions.
Addressing adequately the statistical nature of climate is
computationally intensive and requires the application of new
methods of model diagnosis, but such statistical information
is essential.

Luke Warmist
March 15, 2015 6:47 pm

First I’ll take my “Damnital” and then FWIW mention that back in college in the late 60’s, a Prof told us ‘He that solves for turbulence, solves for weather’. Unstated of course was the fact that the unknowns and unknowables was a bridge too far. I suspect that is still largely the case. (I’m an engineer BTW, and worked with/on airfoils for years.)

thingadonta
March 15, 2015 7:37 pm

6. In nonlinear systems, even infinitesimal changes in input can have unexpectedly large changes in the results – in numeric values, sign and behavior.
Almost everywhere in government i have worked people are taught the exact opposite. And that is one of the problems with government, especially when it comes to the natural sciences.

Walt Allensworth
March 15, 2015 7:54 pm

Very nice introduction!
Earnestly waiting for the next!

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