Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Andrew Tyndall, news consultant: If you don’t tie every event to climate change when reporting the weather, its like pornography
Andrew Tyndall, described as a news consultant, has accused Ginger Zee, a qualified meteorologist and popular TV weather presenter, of producing “weather porn”.
According to Tyndall;
“If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” he said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.”
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/tv/article4446150.html#/tabPane=tabs-383c4c27-1
Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience.
However, Patrick Burkey, Nightly News executive producer, spoke up in defence of the way weather is reported on TV.
“Weather coverage can drive ratings,” Burkey said, but “you have to be careful that you’re not covering weather stories that aren’t real news every night. It’s an easy way to lose the trust of the audience about what is really an important weather story.”
Who knows – when climate alarmists find something interesting to say, rather than rehashing the same tired fear mongering nonsense every time they speak, their views might get a little more airtime.
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In a older, more correct world, Ginger Zee’s partner would give the creep Tyndall a thick lip to the applause of decent folk
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If I understand this properly they’re complaining that too much time is being spent on weather reporting. Am I right? Get a life! My understanding is people watch what they prefer and ratings have nothing to do with importance and everything to do with choice.
For their Plan to work they need more airtime for their “progressive enlightened liberalism”, read political propaganda?
It isn’t about choice, it’s about weather reporting. The complaint is that the weather reporter has been reporting weather. The argument is that the weather reporter shouldn’t be reporting weather, but should be reporting something which has frequently been explicitly stated not to be weather.
Yes, If weather is not perceived by the public as been caused by antroproghenic causes this undermines the political decided UNFCCC and The Political Plan behind it.
They don’t mind all the air time for weather disaster. They’re complaining that all that coverage is leaving out the all-important connection to CAGW. “You’re not telling the story riiight!”
Well people do have a choice of what is offered by the media, and in particular the major networks. So we get a choice of what they want to show us.
I for example, do not want to watch three or five old sports has beens, sit around a fancy table, and natter idly about something that happened in a game years ago. I do not want to watch a college football game, that might have taken place 12 years ago, that is presented as “live” coverage.
Nor do I need 500 channels of shop at home, which is what my TV source provider offers.
When it comes to news coverage, I do not need to watch “live” TV coverage of something that happened last week, and that I have already heard repeated at least a dozen times on my radio, before I even get out of bed in the morning.
And if all of the “news”papers that I can find at my news stand, simply rehash junk they get from UPI or the NYT or LAT, or some other news canning outlet, why do I need them. If I want to read an NYT story (I don’t), I can read it in the NYT. I don’t need so buy the SJ Murky “news” to get the same story from the same source.
News on dead tree is so out of touch with reality, and few of the papers even have reporters any more to go out and get real news, that we haven’t all heard.
I’ve heard several days of news stories from all over the planet, regarding the recent assassination of two NYPD officers. I haven’t heard a single one yet, that has mentioned the skin color of the assassin, or the victims. Not that it matters to me; that all became irrelevant by the time I was six years old.
But It is in sharp contrast with earlier news reports, where the only thing that WAS reported in the stories, was skin color. Seems like an inconsistency somewhere in our “right to know” watchdogs. who seem to be more like alley curs, than watch dogs.
Yes we get a choice of what they choose to show us or tell us.
I am currently reading Stonewalled by Sharyl Attkisson. She states the reason for so much weather on tv is that it is “safe” – you cannot offend an advertiser (corporate partner) or the administration so “weather” is being used to pad the new.
Besides I thought that it was “just weather” if it contradicted the CAGW alarmism (eg record snowfall in the middle of summer in the australian alps – and there they were predicting the “end of snow” in Australia)
Burkey knows his audience. Tyndall is a fool grasping for something that will strike fear into the populace. He sees his charade slipping through his fingers. In that he is right. You cannot live constantly in fear, yet that is what he wants.
Indeed it is a charade. For years they told us that the climate is not the same as the weather. For years some climatologists, media outlets, environmental groups and METEOROLOGICAL outlets engaged in ‘climate porn’ and some idiot now wish to turn the tables i.e you are engaged in ‘weather porn’ because you do not engage in ‘climate porn’. Is this called self projection? 😉
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If you want to see examples of heavy duty climate porn just type in Guardian climate change into Google and visit the Guardian page. It is a relentless deluge of vomit and alarmism.
In 2010 the UK’s media regulator OFCOM investigated climate porn.
Various groups have been engaged in ‘climate porn’ over the years but now some want to turn the tables. Viewers have had enough of this sh!t and maybe that’s why some media outlets have decided to report the weather. TV outlets probably took a close look at what happens to viewing figures during ‘climate change’ stories. I can’t find the article but I once read they tanked.
Zee looks to be B rated. I prefer C or D rated weather. Well it is about por…..
Here’s one of these. Have to interrogate the subject fully to form an objective opinion. 😉
I know how you love Pinup pictures so ….
Probably need one of these too. Total safe for Watts up with that.
Whatever makes yer sea level rise …..
Tyndall is complaining that they are covering too many weather “disasters”????…
…seems that would play right into the “climate change causes everything” meme………..
For years they told us the meteorologists were not climastrologists and were not qualified enough to be taken seriously on matters of climate. Now a qualified ‘news consultant’ (Andrew Tyndall) tells us that they can and should – as long as they BELIEVE in CAGW. Oh boy!
The irony is in his name.
Jimbo,
You are right about the qualification thing, that is what they said. But this porny stuff from Andrew T is not changing anything. The claim broadcasters should be promoting climate alarm is not because they are knowledgeable enough to work it out for themselves. No, no. They should just do as they are told. Believing the stuff isn’t important. Salvation from CO2 comes because of their sacrifice at the hands of ‘deniers’, not because of anyone’s beliefs in their prophecies.
The religious parallel is unavoidable. There are those who know with their Gnostic Texts and secret cabals, then us who should obey and in our obedience, tell the ignorant flock what the all-knowing have deemed, in their wisdom, to reveal.
Andrew T is stirring for the insiders.
Isn’t it true that we had a review here some time back about what weather broadcasters (if that is the right term) though about CAGW? Wasn’t it that they were heavily, like 80%, disinclined to accept the alarm was legit? Seems about right.
More than a hint of sexism from this bloke. He obviously confuses weather and climate so perhaps he can’t distinguish between an empty head pretty girl and a qualified meteorologist.
Indeed. Where are my victims? Where are my refuges? Where are my 20 meter waves and my drowning cities? Where are my hunger riots? I was promised so much, not just you Mr Obama, I too was promised these things. It’s just sexist.
Having a BS in meteorology doesn’t make you a qualified meteorologist?
Hey, Ginger Zee hiked up Mount Washington to see the weather there first hand. Thumbs up from me. News directors on the other hand? I’ve heard TV Mets say some (justifiably) unnice things about them.
What exactly is a “News Consultant”?
Say what?
Either it is factual news or it is opinionated rubbish.
So this obscene twit is a propagandist?
What and who consults this guru of spin?
Whats his line?
“Who you gonna trust, me or your lying eyes?”
Secondly who gives empty posers like that “gentleman” air time?
News Consultant == Journalist’s Peanut Gallery
Andrew Tindall wants to the boss of Ginger Zee? Why is he telling her among all meteorologists what to do? Is he trying to slut-shame her? Is he reinforcing the kind of culture that feminists have been denouncing? Comic possibilities.
I maybe mistaken but I think Andrew Tyndall runs the website called Mediabistro. Doing a site search I found over 5,000 references to the word ‘porn’ and its variations. Take from that what you will.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediabistro.com+porn&btnG=Search&gws_rd=ssl
Possibly Tyndall projects his own liking of porn to weather … what’s this … has he got some fetish with beautiful meteorologists and his porn addiction?
Giving the viewers the choice between watching and listening to Tyndall or Zee…
97% would choose Zee ….(8>))…
Now there’s a consensus!
#waronwomen, where the left is constantly faking-up cases of its political opponents mistreating women while constantly perpetrating actual mistreatment of women who don’t adhere to leftist ideologies.
Alec,
Exactly right. There’s even a Law:
Fen’s Law:
The Left believes in none of the things they lecture the rest of us about.
In the Internet Age, shouldn’t that be the phony-left ??
Thank you philincalifiornia.
Hypocrisy is a useful charge to make as it is hard to defend against – “Well, he would say that and he doesn’t believe it,”. But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking.
A charge of hypocrisy destroys debate and leads to Groupthink – and eventually being lost in one’s own prejudices.
Fen’s Law is not a lazy Ad Hom (avoiding thought) but a cynical Ad Hom (discouraging thought).
Thank you, MCourtney
But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking……
Def. sophism – noun 1. a specious argument for displaying ingenuity in reasoning or for deceiving someone.
Definition… and your example of a specious argument, with an ingenious embedded ad hom attack. Really. Implying phil was not honest….Ingenuity in ‘reasoning’, indeed! But, fear not. You and no one else will stifle debate on these pages.
Merry Christmas! And a Joyful New Year to you!
But obviously is not war on women or misogyny, because Holy Socialist Liberal Narrative Uber Alles.
You are obviously mistaken. This is all Bush’s fault and racist. :/
So observing and reporting the actual weather, instead of repeating party-line propaganda, is considered porn in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall? I bet he feels the same way about observable facts versus climate models. He has it backwards. The alarmists and their climate models are the pornography producing whores. They devote themselves to trying to get a rise out of temperatures in return for money.
So Tyndall channel surfs looking for his preferred porn then? 😉
Or is he like those devout Christians who go to movies so that they can be offended amd demand that the rest of us never go to see them?
Or to be more current, like the Norks who attack an entire film company because they don’t like the movies they make.
Really? Evidence please. Any beheadings?
Or, like the Pog-Luddites that want to shut-down debate because of “Settled Science?”
…and Democrat’s wonder why their “Republican War on Women” mantra has failed.
Climate realists are winning out over climate alarmists as the world wises up to the difference between logic and ideological hogwash.
Well, to be fair, weather reporting is very similar to porn.
It is available on the internet for free, from all over the world, there’s more of it than any one person can watch in a lifetime, and watching it is nothing like being there.
And, to watch the really good stuff, you have to pay for it
That would explain why most of the climate porn papers are behind paywalls.
Climate Corollary to Godwin’s Law
The probability that the cause of ANY weather event is attributed in whole or in part to ‘Climate Change’ approaches one within 48 hours of said weather event.
Most if not all of the readers and contributors to this site are smarter than i , consequently i doubt i can bring any new thought to the subject. I could not however let this item go by without adding my comments. This character is beneath contempt, a creep on every level.
Note: I’ve got a daughter who is about Ginger’s age. I’ve watched Ginger on Chicago TV, where she served as an excellent local meteorologist, and cheered for her when she reached the national stage.
I will happily volunteer to give Mr. Tyndall his fat lip, or worse.
So… this “consultant” thinks that a highly successful weather reporter should start covering climate change more.
You know, like the Weather Channel did.
Which is why their ratings eroded so badly.
Apparently, he thinks TV shows should do things that make their ratings drop substantially, because, er…
Tyndall’s comment is extremely crude and totally unwarranted. Seems to me that he owes Ginger ZEE an apology.
A quote by media historian Stewart Ewen:
Is “Naked News” still running? Do they have a weather report? Is that what he’s after? Naked people reporting the weather?
“Naked people reporting the weather?”
If they are, maybe they can get Tyndall to do the reporting.
I’ll stick with Zee.