‘Poor Nations Will Need Up To $1.5 Trillion Climate Funding Per Year By 2050’
An “omnibus” spending bill to fund the federal government through October 2015 throws up roadblocks for the Obama administration’s climate agenda, namely by blocking taxpayer dollars from going to the United Nations global warming fund. The House’s $1.1 trillion spending bill will prevent President Obama from fulfilling his pledge to give $3 billion to the UN’s Green Climate Fund. –Michael Bastasch, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
President Obama’s pledge to give unelected bureaucrats at the U.N. $3 billion for climate change initiatives is an unfortunate decision to not listen to voters in this most recent election cycle. His climate change spending priorities, estimated to be $120 billion since the beginning of his Administration, were on the ballot, and Americans spoke. The President’s climate change agenda has only siphoned precious taxpayer dollars away from the real problems facing the American people. –Senator James Inhofe, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
India will not allow any outside body to review progress of its “intended” climate targets and measures as these will be “nationally determined” contributions. Making India’s stand amply clear on the issue of “progress review”, Indian environment and climate change minister Prakash Javadekar said, “We do not see any role for any ex-ante review in this process”. China and most of the developing countries have the same view on the issue. –Vishwa Mohan, Times of India, 11 December 2014
In his intervention on Green Climate Fund during the talks, Javadekar also pitched for bigger kitty of climate finance from the developed world. He said developing countries need for mitigation and adaptation was being estimated in the range of $600 billion to $1500 billion per year (by 2050). He also focused on the reluctance of the rich nations to contribute to the Green Climate Fund. –Vishwa Mohan, Times of India, 11 December 2014
The gloves came off at the Lima climate change talks on Tuesday. Developed countries came together to demand that references to developing countries’ priority of eradicating poverty and achieving sustainable development be dropped from the talks. Several countries, including Brazil, China and others, countered these views of the developed countries. India, too, aligned with other developing countries in defending its developmental interests and demanded primacy of sustainable development, food security and poverty eradication in the preamble of Lima decision. –Nithin Sethi, Business Standard, 11 December 2014
The 20th annual “Conference of the Parties” to the UN’s 1992 climate treaty (“COP-20”) is in its second week in Lima, Peru and the news is the same as from pretty much every other one. You don’t need a calendar to know when these are coming up, as the media are flooded with global warming horror stories every November. During the first week of these two-day meetings, developing nations coalesce around the notion the developed world (read: United States) must pay them $100 billion per year in perpetuity. In the second week, the UN announces, dolefully, that the conference is deadlocked. As the deadlock continues, the UN will announce that the meeting is going to go overtime. Sometime on the weekend someone will announce a breakthrough, the meeting will adjourn, and everyone will go home to begin the cycle anew until next December’s COP-21 in Paris. –Patrick Michaels, Cato at Liberty, 9 December 2014
Second week COP ritual: Hopes for Lima climate conference unravel. As thousands of people took part in a colourful march through the centre of Lima demanding action to “save Mother Earth”, ministers and delegates from more than 190 countries were struggling to salvage the UN climate conference here. Earlier optimism about a successful conclusion this weekend is unravelling as the text being negotiated has “ballooned” out of control, with more and more amendments tabled by countries and blocs seeking to have their points of view reinforced. Miguel Arias Canete, the new European climate action and energy commissioner, conceded that “not a single paragraph has been agreed” in a text that had grown to 100 pages or more, making it “very difficult for ministers to reach agreement”. –Frank McDonald, The Irish Times, 11 December 2014
Second week COP ritual: For a sense of the frustrating tenor of climate negotiations underway here, which aim to agree on a clear outline of a new international climate-protecting agreement, consider this: One of the two draft documents being thrashed out had, by Wednesday morning, with just three days of a fortnight of talks remaining, ballooned into an unworkable 52-page opus. And not a single paragraph within the latest iteration of that 52-page draft had been agreed upon by the troop of international climate negotiators. The ballooning text is a manifestation of what has become normal practice during annual climate negotiations, with nations posturing for days before finding some middle ground just as the talks wrap up. –John Upton, Business Spectator, 11 December 2014
Greenpeace activists are facing criminal charges for damaging the Nazca Lines in Peru during a publicity stunt. The 20 activists are accused of leaving footprints in the desert while they unfurled a banner next to a figure of a hummingbird, which is part of a Unesco world heritage site. Luis Jaime Castillo, Peru’s deputy culture minister, said the government was seeking to prevent those responsible from leaving the country while it asked prosecutors to file charges of “attacking archaeological monuments”, a crime punishable by up to six years in prison. –Ben Webster, The Times, 11 December 2014
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I have to admit, I couldn’t agree more with those protestors in the photo above, wearing red and holding a banner reading, ‘Rich countries pay your climate debt.’ But, in a true spirit of solidarity, I believe that elemental logic requires that their demand should be refined to the demand that the ‘rich’ of the rich countries should be the first to cough up the moola. Thus, James Hansen can be one of the first to reach into his wallet and pull out that wad of bills totaling a quarter mil (that ‘present’ from Theresa Heinz Kerry) and slide it on over. Speaking of Kerrys, he can convert a few of his (and mostly wifey’s) mansions into section 8 housing and send the rents as part of his debt. And, I consider his yacht as part of his debt, he can convert it and donate it as a fishing boat. Speaking of boats, Leonardo DiCaprio can take an equal amount of money to the money he paid to rent out a 470′ yacht (yeah, I know that’s a little bit bigger than boat size) for a party, and fork it on over to pay his climate debt. Oh, and Harrison Ford, no more taxpayer funded, NOAA sponsored thrill rides on fighter jets to enlighten us on AGW. I’d say your time would be better spent wrapping up about a couple million Benjamin Franklins (c’mon you can afford it) and handing it over as part of your debt. Al Gore … c’mon guy, you’ve got the money, let’s put it where your mouth is. Cough it up big boy. Maurice Strong? Robert Redford? Podesta? C’mon, let’s see who’s first in line.
I’d say, just like those protesters, we should demand this; demand this very thing. Funny, but I’ll bet CAGW would disappear overnight. Let’s see.
How about instead, you take all of the “donations” you outlined above, and so something REALLY radical, like fund Soc. Security with it??????
In other words, something MEANINGFUL, that would have an actual impact on an actual problem.
An example of positive unable to agree feedback:
“Greenpeace activists are facing criminal charges for damaging the Nazca Lines in Peru during a publicity stunt.”
Aren’t these the same people who would protest a mining or oil company coming within miles of the Nazca Lines on the grounds that they might cause them damage? What hypocrites!
Harper (Prime Minister of Canada) calls climate regulations on oil and gas sector ‘crazy economic policy’
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-it-would-be-crazy-to-impose-climate-regulations-on-oil-industry/article22014508/
If countries owe other countries because of their cross border impact, can we claim money back for aid, medicine, technology, legal and economic systems that lead to wealth, and provision of knowledge.
What, for example, has been Peru’s contribution to any of the above?
They hosted the conference? 🙂
While the work furiously to get everybody on board, they overlooked one important item……….the planet has been “greening” up for the last several decades, thanks to increasing CO2 and a slight beneficial warming.
One figure they will never get on board with this agenda is “Mother Nature”.
Rich Countries?
Wouldn’t the lefties at GroanPrice say Countries were a social konstruk?
To call on the social construct called “Rich Country Name HERE”, is then the equivalent of asking something that does not exist to give lots of money!, to something else that does not exist “Poor Country name HERE”.
To be a Rich country, you could in theory have One Billionaire living near a population earning a dollar a day.
That’s an average weekly income of $9,615.39 according to Excel.
Strawman argument I know, but out of interest which countries, that don’t really exist, have a high weekly wage?.
The average wage, calculated by the International Labour Organization puts Luxembourg at the top of weekly average wage at $4,089.
The U.S comes in at 4th at $3,263. 4TH! (WTF – they all drive hummers and live in mansions /sarc)
The U.K $3,065 at 5th place. Austria does better!
Ranked 15th – The lazy Aussies only earn a pitiful $2,610 a week.
Ranked 22nd – The laid back, nearly comatose New Zealanders earn a paltry income of $2,283.(lazy b@ur momisugly$t@ur momisuglyrd$!)
From Wikipedias List_of_countries_by_average_wage (grain of salt and all that.)
India comes in ranked 69 at $295 a week,…hmmmm, what about all those billionaires?
According to Forbes, The combined net worth of the 2014 class of the 100 richest Indian’s is $346 billion.
And China? 190 Billionaires, combined wealth of $440 Billion.
The aggregate wealth of the worlds richest people – gotta love Forbes – is $6.4 TRILLION.
I think GroinPeice are actually after the wealthiest people,…surely, since countries are a social construct that doesn’t really exist.
And who is funding the Green Blog? Oddly enough, numerous members of the worlds richest people club.
GroinPrice, ring Forbes, they’ll hook you up with unlimited funds,…now PHUK OFF!
(Thailands 50 richest aggregate wealth $97 Billion.)
“To be a Rich country, you could in theory have One Billionaire living near a population earning a dollar a day.
That’s an average weekly income of $9,615.39 according to Excel.”
We are a home schooling family, so of course we got our son his own copy of How to Lie with Statistics. That happened to be his favorite example.
What next – perhaps some economist has written a book about how to adjust up the one-dollar-a-day income using Purchasing Power Parity. That comes out to even more. Then you have some seriously rich peasants.
Perhaps the poor nations would like to pay for their food for starters.
I had a UN funding suggestion on this thread.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/09/un-chief-give-me-more-money/#comment-1811341
Perhaps the UN could also hold a monthly bake sale in the lobby of the UN building.
I look for the day for all this madness to end, will I make it alive till then? I’m not even 30…
dunno mate,
wouldnt hold my breath.
as soon as the warming bullshit fails utterly(almost) then hansen strong gore and all the newboys tagging on will do a fast swapover for the same crap re cooling
just too much money n power to let go of.
rip us off for funds when we need what we have to enable us to help cope with whatevers coming
Heh, heh. Another COP session going to hell. What a surprise. And another upside, maybe we can get a charming repeat of the jailing of Greenpeace activists in Peru to mirror those jailed in Russia for vandalizing and trespass on the Arctic drilling rig. I loved reading the distraught letters home from those jailed children. So uplifting. Why anyone would continue to donate money to this group is beyond me. Please stop giving them money and let this herpes sore on the lip of humanity die out.
Thank you, U.S. Congress, for trying to stop some of the insanity. I don’t care how low your approval ratings are. In this, you did good. Oh, and could you please work to kill off the EPA’s ability to continue with it’s CO2 Endangerment Finding? I’ll vote for you if you do.
Finally some rational decision making in Washington. To spend billions of dollars annually for a non existing climate threat that was created by the alarmists through the exaggeration of climate science and projecting of false worst case scenarios would have been quite wasteful. Annual US temperature anomalies have been trending negative for 16 years at (-.36 F/decade) and 2014 will most likely make it 17 years. There are much more rational places to spend taxpayers money in United States like repairing the badly deteriorating
infrastructure .