People send me stuff. This email from the White House comes courtesy of WUWT reader John B. You’d think they’d have learned something after the disastrous “AskDrMann” hashtag debacle, but nooooo.
Message: White House warning of extreme weather, Nov 19, 2014.
From: info@mail.whitehouse.gov
To: xxxx@xxxx.xxx
Subject: Make sure your community is ready for climate change
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:51:17 -0600
The White House
Make sure your community is ready for climate change
Climate change is happening now — and we’ve got to be ready because we’re going to see more extreme weather.
That’s why we’re taking action. Last Tuesday, the President made a historic announcement with China that sets new targets for carbon pollution reductions.
And on Monday, the Administration released the Climate Resilience Toolkit to help our communities respond to our changing climate.
Check out these easy-to-use tools, including interactive maps and visualizations, that will help prepare your community for the impacts of climate change. See how you can help your community or business get ready.
Whether you’re a small business owner, planner, farmer, policy leader, or an interested resident, these tools can help you make sure that you have a climate-ready community or business.
Have questions about what climate change means for you, why it matters, and what we can do to fight it? Last Thursday, Dr. John P. Holdren, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, announced that he wants to answer your questions.
Ask Dr. Holdren your questions on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Vine with the hashtag #AskDrH — and he’ll answer some of them on camera.
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Message: White House warning of extreme weather, Nov 19, 2014.
Subject: Make sure your community is ready for climate change
This White House program is preying upon the fears of people who do not know the difference between weather or climate.
Have they no shame?
The short answer to your question “have they no shame” is NO
The long answer is HELL NO
The best answer to the fear mongers came from a previous Democratic President of the USA
“So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt March 4 1933
The current US administration actively encourages unreasoning fear aiming to convert advance into retreat.
I can think of a longer answer.
But it involves some Fs and Is and that.
But essentially the same . . . . .
although possibly with emphasis added.
Auto
I am presuming your question is rhetorical as I believe we all know the answer.
That was a rhetorical question, right?
“To be a politician, you need to have had shame surgically removed.” Bernie Bonvoisin, former French rock singer.
Is Jonathan Gruber the White House weather correspondent now too? On the 19th of November: “Climate change is happening now — and we’ve got to be ready because we’re going to see more extreme weather.”
Yeah, it’s approximately a month until the Winter solstice, who wouldn’t expect an increasing change in the weather? Stupid Voters?
It’s not Gruber on climate change, it’s Tom Steyer (a billionaire who threw millions of dollars at democrats in the recent elections that they lost). He has stated that only the “super-sophisticated” 0.05% of the US population understand the problems of global warming.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/16/billionaire-climate-activist-wants-to-educate-all-of-you-stupid-unsophisticated-hicks/
Heaven protect us from people who want to protect us from ourselves.
We have the data, why not make empirically verifiable statements instead of vague speculations? Let’s survey a sample of people with IQs in the 99.05th percentile and above and see if they are in fact worried about Global Warming.
Steyer is referring to the 0.05% of the population who stand to gain financially from global warming. They are the ones who understand how deceiving the other 99.95% can lead to huge profits for themselves, as it has done for Al Gore and others.
Patrick, if Steyer’s 0.05% worked out to be the 99.05th percentile for 300,000,000 Americans that would put the IQ at around 136. (Statistically savvy folks will need to do that math, I don’t remember how to do it even if I had the population IQ data.) I do not know what numeric variations exist between versions of the standard Stanford-Binet test, but I assume that they made some attempt to even them out over the 5 versions I’m aware of. Considering where I scored on that test decades ago (version 3) and anecdotally relating it to most of the folks that post here, I’d say this crowd probably has a higher average than the 99.05 percentile you’ve posited. That right there shoots a big hole in the WH talking points. I mean, I am worried about “Climate Change” but only the destruction of our freedoms and our economies that have been falsely tied to the fantastical CAGW AGW theme.
That said, all IQ means is that you are capable of solving the problems presented on those tests, as the test creators expect you to and can negotiate all the biases they contain. I also know a few folks who are extremely smart, excellent problem solvers but have little “formal” education and would most likely do poorly on the current version of that test. They would, however, give most academics with “high” IQ’s a serious run for their money if not beat them flat out in both common sense and problem solving. (Needless to say I consider problem solving to be one of the most important metrics of “intelligence.”)
I confused.
If I visited Wall Street, would I be one the 99% or the (almost) 1%?
While were on the topic of IQ, I think you meant 99.95% rather than 99.05%. Probably about 99.05% of the population wouldn’t catch that.
Joe that’s why I asked the statistically literate to chime in. Steyer used a percentage and Patrick used percentile. It’s all a crock anyway. No matter how smart you are it’s the connections you have in the political “class” and the “bureaucratocracy” that will get you all those lucrative government “green” dollars with the added bonus of having the laws jiggered around to benefit you and punish your competition. Know the right people and government becomes your own personal thug. Intelligence has nothing to do with it, just corruptibility.
It’s not so different in the UK. We are be softened up to expect chaos during the next cold, dark winter morning because the hideously expensive 2008 Climate Change Act has forced the power generating companies to blow up the coal-powered stations and replace them with windmills. When the next bitter winter comes, our government will try to blame it on “Climate Disruption” and will be forced into a General Election faced with a three-day week, power blackouts and civil riots.
Hear hear. They are idiots the lot. Who else would pay £billions for an aircraft carrier and then sell all the aircraft the UK have that can fry from it?
Yes, we have an aircraft carrier with no aircraft.
It is the same bunch of morons who taxed intensive energy users, and when those firms mentioned they might re-locate, the government offered to pay their tax for them. ????
You could not make this stuff up…..
HMS Queen Elizabeth is in the water but is not completed and won’t be ready to fly off aircraft for a few years yet. The F 35b is a new aircraft, and as with anything new that comes on the market, TVs etc, the first ones are more expensive. The correct decision was taken to only order enough aircraft at first to be able to test and train the initial crews. Further batches will be ordered at reduced price for the aircraft needed to fly from the carrier. If you are suggesting that we should have placed the full order already at a much inflated price, then I’m afraid I have to disagree. As for the energy policy of the UK government, I think it’s safe to say we share the same low opinion of it.
Sorry BDTP, but there is no excuse for what the Government did regarding sellind off the Harriers to the US, which is what Paul M is talking about.
Similarly there is no excuse for doing what they did with the Nimrod, which had already been paid for, to cut them up just like Labour did with the TSR2 is an absolute disgrace. In Afghanistan even the US Troops always preferred EI cover by Nimrods to their own AWACS aircraft.
Bloke,
The F-35 is a total lemon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
We have carriers, but not enough vessels to support them. Should they ever see service, they’ll be part of a pan-European force, with French planes onboard.
This was the intention from the word go.
Problems with the carriers (a symptom of all UK administration).
We never needed super-carriers. Four small carriers would have been better and safer. Why have all your eggs in one basket?
They are not nuclear powered, so they can only go to Ireland and back, without refuelling. So they ordered two unarmed refuelers, to follow the carriers. Sink the refuellers, and the carrier is a dead duck.
And because there was no nuclear power, there was no steam for catapults. But more on that later.
These carriers are only single skinned, so the first torpedo will see them down in Davey Jones’ Locker.
The F35 was a real stupid choice. They wanted supersonic speed, but with a STOVL aircraft, you can never use afterburner because you have to come back and refuel after five minutes (weight sensitive, you see).
And who are we fighting? Do we need super F35s, to bomb Libya, Syria, or Iraq? No, Harriers would be much better. So they gave up the Harrier’s ability to VIFF (use engine vectoring in flight) to have a supersonic cabability they can never use. And they got combat abilities of limited use, that the Harrier could have done in 99% of cases with a much more basic and robust platform.
Then they said they would have cat-and-trap F-35s, to overcome the fuel problem. But they had no steam for the cat, and tried to make an electric cat. Umm, it did not work.
But, as I pointed out to the team, a cat-and-trap is hopeless, when you only have one carrier in operation. The smallest of bombs on either the cat or the trap, and your carrier becomes a very expensive cruise liner. The crew might as well put on shorts and T-shirts and subathe. And if the trap is blasted while the kites are aloft, they all have to ditch in the sea. So you have no capability, even when the trap is repaired, because all the F35 super kites are at the bottom of the briney.
The reason for having a Harrier type STOVL aircraft, is that you can operate (to a lesser degree) no matter how many holes you have in the flight deck. In fact, they can land on the refueler ships if necessary (if they are stil afloat, of course). Luckily, I won that argument.
The whole escapade was a nonsense, from start to finish. We are being led by five-year olds, with no experience of the real world, no knowledge, and no common sense.
Ralph
Actually, the Nimrod was another stupid government joke, that demonstrated that the inmates have taken over the UK asylum. Ok, here are your design choices.
a. Buy an off the shelf Airbus, for £30 million each. Delivery in three months.
b. Take a 50-year old airframe, at the end of its life (a Comet airliner); strip off the engines, wings flight controls, undefcarriage and electronics. So now you have a 40-year old rusting fuselage, and we build a complete new aircraft around this old fuselage. Delivery in ten years, minimum.
So what would you do? Yeah, right, the politicians chose b.
Then came the problems.
Because the old aircraft was was not big enough, they doubled its previous weight.
Can you imaging flying a Cessna 172 at double its weight? Yeah, right, you would have to be suicidal. And then….
Because it was now too heavy, they had to replace all the undercarriage.
Because it was now too heavy, they had to make the new wing stronger.
Because it was too heavy, they had to uprate the engines.
And then the reworked Nimrod started to come together. Brand new CNC machined wings and all. Fantastic. And then they offered up the new wings to the fuselage and found …………. that none of the fuselages were the same. Everything back in the ’50s was built individually. So none of the new wings fitted any of the old fuselages – the bolts were centimeters adrift. This was back to the drawing-board stuff.
The ‘new’ (by then 50-year old) Nimrods were a disaster from start to finish, and any five year old could have predicted this happening. We are led by donkeys, with no sense, no knowledge and no experience.
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As to TSR2, that was another government calamity. The TSR2 was, in fact, a great aircraft that was way ahead of the US F-111. TSR2 was a true world-beater in the making.
But the Labour government went bankrupt, as they always do, and went cap in hand to the IMF (which was bankrolled by the US). And the US said: “sure you can have the money – if you stop TSR2 and buy F-111s instead.”. So the Labour Party did just that. Sod the profits from such a wonderful aircraft, sod the loss of expertise and manufacturing – the ‘intellectuals’ that run the Labour Party have always hated the working man, so they did not care. And they broke up all the jigs and tools too, so it could never be produced later. Bar stewards, the lot of them.
And then, because the F-111 was a load of rubbish and years behind schedule, we bought F4 Phantoms instead – which was not what we wanted at all. We wanted a nuclear strike bomber, and anded up with something that pretended to be a fighter, but never was. In the Korean War the F4 it was fighting Migs of half the weight and a quater of the cost, and the Migs were doing quite well, thank you. As I said, we were led by donkeys then, and we are led by donkeys now.
Oh, and finally, can someone in the media ask David Ca-Moron what happened to his wind turbine? Did it work, Dave? No? What? – you mean it failed miserably, and never produced more than 7 watts? And you think all those wind turbines out at sea will be any different?
Donkeys, the lot of them.
Ralph
We have solved that one. We are going to borrow some from the US.
Well at least they didn’t buy hundreds of submarines while claiming they would need them to navigate the streets of London after the seas rise.
” the hideously expensive 2008 Climate Change Act has forced the power generating companies to blow up the coal-powered stations and replace them with windmills. “
In point of fact, they disassembled the plant and sold it at scrap metal price to the Germans to incorporate into some of the 20+ new predominantly lignite (brown coal, the dirtiest fuel of all) fired power stations they are having to build as a result of the utter failure of the Energiewende “renewable” energy initiative and the closing down of the nuclear plants for fear of powerful earthquakes and tsunamis.
Quem deus vult perdere, prius dementat.
Dag Nabbit, you guys, why do you keep publishing excerpts from The Onion? I have to wipe coffee off my Mac AGAIN. This is beyond inane. Written in grade four language to boot.
Cos’ the voters is stupid innit?
A tip from an old computer jock: don’t put sugar in your coffee. It will gum up a keyboard.
That fake cream dries like Elmer’s Glue.
Tastes like Elmer’s Glue too.
You think coffee with sugar is bad? I once had to try to clean a PB&J (peanut butter and jelly sandwich) from a keyboard. Eventually had to replace it.
I have a Logitech washable keyboard. I put it in the dishwasher.
Government funded scientific research needs to be thoroughly investigated throughout the Western world as well as the widespread collusion between government agencies and environmental groups. The lack of rational thought in relation to climate and the supposed effect of carbon dioxide has reached truly scandalous levels. Just don’t expect this scandal to be exposed by main stream journalists. If anything, they are even more brainwashed than the others. A few well chosen swear words come to mind but should be better withheld from this comment.
Keep it up all you sceptical stalwarts, humanity needs you.
“Government funded scientific research needs to be thoroughly investigated…”. Who would do this investigation, and what authority would they have to remedy the situation?
Well, now that the Republican Party has done so well in the mid-term elections, how about the Senate or the House of Representatives? Good enough for you? Maybe they can suggest some remedying procedures. Isn’t that how democracy is supposed to work?
How about just defund and decouple the government agencies and star again with new agencies under proper scientific management !?
No, they have no shame. Yes, we should be ready for Climate Change. The only trouble is that we don’t know whether it is going to get warmer or cooler after the current plateau ends. The action we should take if it is getting warmer – install air conditioners, rip out solid fuel stoves, add sunshades on the outside of windows, ensure a through draft can be maintained through the living areas of houses, is exactly the opposite of what is required if it gets cooler – rip out air conditioners, install solid fuel heaters, add reflective material to sunshades in such a manner than they can reflect more light (and hence heat) into the house, and ensure draft preventers are in good nick.
There is one good point, though. Extreme weather has been decreasing over the last 30 to 40 years, so we don’t need to worry about that.
There are a few things that we should do, irrespective of whether it is getting cooler or warmer – one important one is to install light rail/streetcars on major traffic arteries, so people have a choice between using their cars or travelling by public transport.
I like mass transit, but the problem with light rail is that it uses street space. Commuter rail, elevated trains, subways, etc. may cost more, but they are also independent of the street grid, meaning that they can not increase the traffic density, and they are less likely to cause accidents. Also, they are inherently faster, due to the lack of stoplights.
It’s been nearly a month since the hashtag was started on twitter, there has not been a single reply posted. https://twitter.com/hashtag/askdrh?f=realtime&src=hash has effectively died. The questions the first few days were as expected, a mix of snark and insightful questions from sceptics, a mix of softballs and ‘how can we ruin the economy faster to save gaia’ from believers.
“They” are supposedly compiling the questions asked then selecting the ones to answer on some future date.
Should we expect less from a den of ….. that has a proven record of incompetence .
I believe the word you were looking for Lonie is “thieves”
“Last Tuesday, the President made a historic announcement with China that sets new targets for carbon pollution reductions.”
Translated – We will be sending what remains of the economy to China because they aren’t actually doing anything to reduce their emissions.
YES, or “Under my policy electricity rates will NECESARILY skyrocket, while China can do whatever the hell they want.
what going to happen on 12/25/2014 ? anwser santa
Warmist scientists are doing the grunt work for the Obama administration. Question is, what do they have to gain from destroying the West. They have no marketable skills once the culling of the administrative sector begins.
“Warmist scientists…”, Scientists, you use the term lightly. More like propagandists!
“Climastrologists” is one of the better terms for them. {Saw that here.}
To paraphrase P.J.O’Rourke, the only thing you need to know about climate change is there is nothing we can do about it. However it appears we are going to spend trillions of dollars to find this out.
Climate scientists need Porsches too.
I don’t know…there may be even more climagicians required to keep the illusion of something happening going. Or maybe there’ll be climenforcers.
Climatic Variability Counselors… I’m trying to find where to apply.
Reality and these guys don’t even seem to be acquainted. It must be the drugs.
http://tinyurl.com/choomgang
I think they have cancer of the brain and are not using the drugs.
Brain Cancer.
The IPCC ITSELF told the White House that extreme weather linkage was NOT HAPPENING.
So even reality compromised groups understand what the White House does not…
If you like your climate, you can keep your climate.
+10
Robert, I would add that if you like your climate, you can keep your climate. You just have to pay your carbon tax.
If you sign up for Obama’s emails, you get some very odd ones. Here’s a recent example, again about the supposedly “historic deal” with China.
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From: Jack Shapiro, BarackObama.com
To: me
date: 12 November 2014
Friend —
Late last night, the United States and China — the world’s two largest economies — struck a historic deal to fight climate change.
That’s global leadership.
Tell climate change deniers they’re running out of excuses — add your name to stand up for President Obama’s plan to fight climate change.
The details of this agreement are important: The United States will double the rate at which we reduce dangerous carbon pollution from fossil fuels. China announced that they will halt the growth of emissions by 2030 — the first time a date has ever been set — and commit to get 20 percent of their energy from clean sources.
If we’re going to avoid the worst impacts of climate change, it’s going to take international action — this agreement is exactly what that looks like.
For a long time, climate change deniers — and even people who acknowledged the science of climate change — have been pointing to other big countries as a reason why the United States should do nothing.
Despite the overwhelming scientific consensus, and the increased occurrence of extreme weather that we’re already experiencing, they argue: If China’s not taking action, why should we?
This climate deal the President just struck with China ends that debate.
OFA supporters have been on the front lines, calling for meaningful action. This is a turning point toward meeting the challenge that the science makes clear head on.
Add your name, and let’s rally around powerful action to fight climate change:
http://my.barackobama.com/Support-President-Obamas-Action-on-Climate-Change
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Shapiro
National Issues Campaign Manager
Organizing for Action
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If you click on the link, it takes you to a request for a donation.
A donation is apt since China is also demanding that Pres. Obama fork over $100,000,000,000 per year. That’s right, one hundred Billion with a B…..
So if China currently plans – China was the largest hydropower producer and is expected to continue to lead global hydro use in the coming years. The country produced 721 terawatt-hours in 2010, representing around 17 percent of domestic electricity use. China also had the highest installed hydropower capacity, with 213 gigawatts (GW) at the end of 2010. It added more hydro capacity than any other country, 16 GW in 2010, and plans to add 140 GW by 2015. This is equivalent to building about seven more dams the size of China’s Three Gorges Dam, currently the largest in the world.
http://www.worldwatch.org/use-and-capacity-global-hydropower-increases-0
And they are producing / selling bio-generation units like the rice burner – POWERMAX BIOMASS GASIFICATION POWER PLANT
The basic principle of POWERMAX’s biomass gasification system(abbreviated as BGPS) is to convert Agriculture and forestry products and wood processing remains (including rick husks, wood powder, branches, offcuts, corn straws, rice straws, wheat straws, cotton straws, fruit shells, coconut shells, palm shells, bagasse, corncobs and etc.) into combustible gas . It is then used as fuel in gas engine to generate electricity. – http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/modular-rice-husk-downdraft-fixed-bed_1845526376.html?s=p
They are probably already at 20 percent “Clean Sources”. A fool and his country are soon parted.
Hey DD, those POWERMAX plants have a max. cap. of 2MW per unit. They’ll need 250 units per Gigawatt.
Crap, can’t multiply. That’s 500 units to produce a GW. Only good for economical waste disposal in my view.
Mr. President,
No logical educated person disputes that climate changes, has changed, or will change. What we doubt is that it is totally anthropological in it’s cause and can be controlled, predicted, or even fully understood by human science in it’s present state; nor can we find any empirical evidence at this juncture, of any unprecedented climatic danger to mankind, flora or fauna.
Policies hatched from the ‘green’ egg are taking the western nations down a dangerous path of diversion that will likely lead to the fiscal ruination of the free world and open the door to implementation of world governance.
Please reread the IPCC reports (and also read the NIPCC report for the sake of sound scientific method). and cease touting alarming extremist speculation that supersedes, exaggerates or contradicts the official findings of the international consensus.
Excuses? We don’t need no stinking excuses…
Well, seeing as how the “Goal is Control” and One-World Governance the prize…
Climate change is happening now — and we’ve got to be ready because we’re going to see more extreme weather.
That’s why we’re taking action.:
http://welldonestuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nubrella.jpg
Bravo! Extreme situations does require extreme responses. But to be truly effective the device must also prevent any exhaled CO2 by the model from entering the atmosphere.
Look like it would steam up quite quickly. Have they done a thorough risk assessment (including the effect of locally raised CO2 levels).?
We need The Cone of Silence.
http://www.tvacres.com/images/cone_silence.jpg
That is a picture of rich people with not enough sh** to do. Notice one hand is perfectly empty of groceries, children, or work taken home. She COULD hold onto a fricken umbrella ya know. But NOOOOOO!!!! Gotta look like I lead a leisurely life style. Gotta walk around with my hand in my pocket. Gawd forebid I haveta hold onto an umbrella with my empty hand!!!!!
Give me a break. Empty hand…empty head. People like that don’t earn money, they inherit it.
It’s up to the White House to prepare for a change, O’barmy!
Anthony,
You have the post titled incorrectly.
It should read “An Email From the Odd White House”.
Quite so. There’s nothing odd about that tripe coming from this Administration. It’s entirely consistent with SOP.
First we had the coming ice age, as evidenced by everywhere getting colder. That morphed into global warming as evidenced by everywhere getting warmer. Now we have climate change, and the easy-to-remember link to evil carbon pollution is “extreme weather” which the media pounces on every second they get. I can’t make it through a half hour of local news without hearing the term “extreme weather” 15 times or more.
Is there really a huge organization around this, or are government and media just naturally in bed with each other?
Government is truly frightening.
Maybe we should call it extreme government.
David L.
an edit: evidenced by everywhere “elsewhere” getting warmer. Fixed.
Good edit!
Our political class has almost achieved warp-speed reality warp.
It’s not drugs. Apparently it just requires the right kind of social construction.
I don’t do twitter. If I did I’d be taking up the invitation to ask some questions:
“Ask Dr. Holdren your questions on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Vine with the hashtag #AskDrH — and he’ll answer some of them on camera.”
The really good part is that he’ll answer “some” of them.
The man is a loony.
I have faith that the voters in the USA will get rid of these fools as fast as they can.
I just hope that the damage they do in the next two years is not terminal.
Much of what has been done in the past 6 is going to take decades to repair. They don’t see it as damage yet, but when they finally wake up they’ll just blame it on Republicans. That technique has proven to be a winner, no matter how many times they use it.
Hey, it’s Job Creation!
And then there’s the time it doesn’t work. (Just ask the eighteenth century French aristocracy.)
Can’t believe Holdren still works for the administration. I thought he was sent to the loony bin years ago.
What do you think this administration is?
Ask Dr. Holdren your questions on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Vine with the hashtag #AskDrH — and he’ll answer some of them on camera.
Just don’t make them too difficult.
Nor should you expect an honest answer.
The White House’s “Climate Resilience Toolkit”–
http://toolkit.climate.gov/
Dr. Holdren:
I took a brief look at your climate resilience toolkit website and noticed that it is badly in need of a rewrite. Allow me to take care of that for you:
1. Identify the problem. The problem is that climate scientists like yourself have become horribly disconnected from the reality of what is actually happening out there. No warming for 18+ years, no increase in hurricane frequency or strength, etc… Alarmist scientists are in complete denial of facts.
2. Determine Vulnerabilities. Non-alarmist scientists have already done a very good job of determining where the alarmist claims of scientists like yourself are vulnerable to debunking and ridicule due to the faultiness of those claims. Efforts in this area are continuing.
3. Investigate Options. The options for exposing the fraudulence of the claims of alarmists like yourself are already being utilized. However, options regarding how to get the non-alarmist message through to the nation with a MSM here and abroad that is largely controlled by alarmists on the Left has yet to be investigated. However, a non-alarmist in the White House starting in 2017 would be a big plus.
4. Evaluate Risk and Costs. Efforts in this area have also been underway for some time now. The risks and costs to the U.S. and world economies of responding to the scientifically faulty claims of alarmists scientists like yourself would most certainly be huge. Jobs lost, standards on living declining, the poor of the world forever condemned to continued poverty, etc. All due to a reaction to a non-problem.
5. Take Action. Again, already underway. Internet websites such as that of Anthony Watt’s (among others) have already proven very useful in exposing the fraudulence of scientists like yourself. With over 212.5 million hits to date, Mr. Watts website has enable the truth about climate change to be disseminated far and wide. Don’t you just love the Internet Doc?
No need to thank me for the rewrite Doc. Glad to do it. Things like this happen all the time when scientists like yourself go horribly awry and allow yourselves to be corrupted by politics, ideology, power and money. Wanting to make the world a better place is one thing Doc. HOW you do it is something else entirely.
Any plans when you have to leave your cushy job in the White House in January of 2017 Doc? Lot of people are looking forward to it….including me.
……one other thing Doc. Maybe we should change the name of the toolkit as well. How about Junk Science Resilience Toolkit? Sounds good to me.
“No warming for 18+ years, no increase in hurricane frequency or strength, etc… Alarmist scientists are in complete denial of facts.”
Sorry to spoil this, but no warming according to which series?
I don’t like this claim (no warming), because the claim suggests there is only one series being used. That’s not true, and if you go to Wikipedia to see what they say, they don’t much mention RSS (which you are probably talking about).
Alarmists really do like series which show more warming, the steadier and larger warming, the more alar-mystic they get. However, one needs to remember there are several ways to measure global temperature development, not mentioning how difficult is to measure the actual temperature and not changes of it.
As talking about Wikipedia, it is interesting that RSS is so efficiently ignored. See for example how this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_record
contains way too old graphs.
“I don’t like this claim (no warming), because the claim suggests there is only one series being used. That’s not true, and if you go to Wikipedia to see what they say, they don’t much mention RSS (which you are probably talking about).”
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Isn’t that strange that Wikipedia would ignore or down play the science from satellites.
That Bill C. is one hell of a
scientistgatekeeper, isn’t he?This is why nobody looking for truth trusts Wikipedia on climate science.
Note:
Please tell us about the oh so minor climate changes over the last 10,000 years.
What was it like before climate got really bad, like today.
Must be burning up outside by now, eh?
Citing Wikipedia as a source? Automatic “F” grade.
The lack of mention of RSS should be your first clue that Wiki is not right. Google William Connelley to find out why Wiki is not worth the time for anything Climate. It is a sham site.
“And on Monday, the Administration released the Climate Resilience Toolkit to help our communities respond to our changing climate.”
So, I thinking, sandbags, shovels, pumps. Or maybe hurricane shelters. Even a bush-hat and sunblock. At the very least a torch and a Swiss Army knife.
But no. The toolkit is a website, so it’s “virtually” useless in any extreme weather event.
The toolkit has tools to be used to scare people.
No “virtually” about it, “worse than useless” would be more accurate.
I,m waiting for a snowblower
Let’s hope this ‘virtual tool kit’ isn’t just directions to your nearest FEMA survival facility.
I just purchased an ice scrapper for my car. Does that count as taking action. Can I get a tax credit?
Meanwhile the toolkit is very handy with important advice like wear boots when it snows, and check the anti-freeze in your car in cold weather. Just wish it had advice as to how to stop the leaves from falling off the leaves in the Autumn, a bloody mess raking those things up.
Republicans should be very pleased about this (and there seems to be a few respondents on this blog). A poll highlighted by Willis the other day showed climate change is the issue that least worries international people polled. Provided the US aligns with the international data, and if the White House concentrates on climate change (as suggested by this letter), they are appealing to the concerns of the fewest voters.
I’ve prepared for the foot of warming snow we are going to receive tomorrow.
I have been carrying on an email conversation right across this wide brown land with a friend who now lives in Tasmania. The latest concerns “peak stupid”. He tells me about people he knows who are so stupid I can not believe what he says; about people who dislike the “carcinogenic” gas Nitrogen, and who can not believe that 78% of the atmosphere is Nitrogen.
Where he lives, the problem is heating for much of the year. Where I live, in sub-tropical Northern Australia, the major problem is summer ventilation and cooling. Heating? we have no heaters in the house. But we have a house which is over 100 years old, with verandahs and many doors, and on high stumps, so we can ventilate. And when the temperature gets above 30C, and the humidity gets to be like a bear’s armpit, we turn on the A/C, set at 24C (75F) to cool and de-humidify. Feels good to me.
But what will happen if the cost of electricity gets to where these numpties like O’Bambi want it to be?
These people are living in fairy land.
If he is open to questions start with this one (and yes I know we are technically in an ice age).
The Earth goes through periodic ice ages. What should we doing to prepare?
There’s a new change to US tax law for 2014. The IRS has just announced that a federal tax credit of $2,500 will be available for the purchase of a 2014 Toyota Prius, however you must purchase the GRASS FED model to qualify for the credit.
The problem with my GRASS FED model is it eats too much hay. And, according to the EPA, emits too much methane and H2s.
Maybe if you baked it in brownies it would digest better.
Where ya’ been? This is old news. There was much sport about the Ask Holdren gig on the internet when this came out. Not sure it went all that well….
That is what defines stupid. They never learn!
Future historians will one day call this time, The Age of Stupidity.
Prime example of Machiavellianisn.
How do you want that climate change? Extreme or extra-crispy?
http://i57.tinypic.com/2e4afix.png
Dang, almost wasted a perfectly good cup of coffee and ruined a keyboard at the same time!
Climate change is happening now — and we’ve got to be ready because we’re going to see more extreme weather.
Rain will be wetter!
Winds will be windier!
Snow will be snowier!
And the Sun will be sunnier!
Oh, wait… the Sun has absolutely nothing to do with our climate.
Never mind.
/sarc
Stop all the snark! They are cereal! They’re super-cereal!
2014’s “Duck and Cover”
China just surpassed U.S.A as an economic power. In 16 years we can look forward to China being six times larger than U.S. if Obama’s “Historic agreement with China” holds up. Check out: China, the powerhouse of the world. Check the CO2 statistics.
http://lenbilen.com/2014/12/06/china-the-powerhouse-of-the-world-check-the-co2-statistics/
#Holdrenisan idiot.
I’ll consider the advice of the White House when the POTUS grounds Air Force One because of ‘climate change’
Have questions about what climate change means for you, why it matters, and what we can do to fight it? Last Thursday, Dr. John P. Holdren, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, announced that he wants to answer your questions.
Is anyone going to ask the following question:
What exactly are the targets, over what period of time, how exactly will this target be achieved, what is the estimated reduction in world temperature that will result, and at what cost?
If the answer is fluffy and non-specific/non-testable, then you know you are dealing with a sophist and a charlatan.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/31/blind-faith-in-climate-models/#comment-1462890
An Open Letter to Baroness Verma
“All of the climate models and policy-relevant pathways of future greenhouse gas and aerosol emissions considered in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) recent Fifth Assessment Report show a long-term global increase in temperature during the 21st century is expected. In all cases, the warming from increasing greenhouse gases significantly exceeds any cooling from atmospheric aerosols. Other effects such as solar changes and volcanic activity are likely to have only a minor impact over this timescale”.
– Baroness Verma
I have no Sunspot Number data before 1700, but the latter part of the Maunder Minimum had 2 back-to-back low Solar Cycles with SSNmax of 58 in 1705 and 63 in 1717 .
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/space-weather/solar-data/solar-indices/sunspot-numbers/international/tables/
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/solar/image/annual.gif
The coldest period of the Maunder was ~1670 to ~1700 (8.48dC year average Central England Temperatures) but the coldest year was 1740 (6.84C year avg CET).
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/download.html
The Dalton Minimum had 2 back-to-back low SC’s with SSNmax of 48 in 1804 and 46 in 1816. Tambora erupted in 1815.
Two of the coldest years in the Dalton were 1814 (7.75C year avg CET) and 1816 (7.87C year avg CET).
Now Solar Cycle 24 is a dud with SSNmax estimated at ~65, and very early estimates suggest SC25 will be very low as well.
The warmest recent years for CET were 2002 to 2007 inclusive that averaged 10.55C.
I suggest with confidence that 10.5C is substantially warmer as a yearly average than 8.5C, and the latter may not provide a “lovely year for Chrysanths”.
I further suggest with confidence that individual years averaging 7.8C or even 6.8C are even colder, and the Chrysanths will suffer.
So here is my real concern:
IF the Sun does indeed drive temperature, as I suspect, Baroness Verma, then you and your colleagues on both sides of the House may have brewed the perfect storm.
You are claiming that global cooling will NOT happen, AND you have crippled your energy systems with excessive reliance on ineffective grid-connected “green energy” schemes.
I suggest that global cooling probably WILL happen within the next decade or sooner, and Britain will get colder.
I also suggest that the IPCC and the Met Office have NO track record of successful prediction (or “projection”) of global temperature and thus have no scientific credibility.
I suggest that Winter deaths will increase in the UK as cooling progresses.
I suggest that Excess Winter Mortality, the British rate of which is about double the rate in the Scandinavian countries, should provide an estimate of this unfolding tragedy.
As always in these matters, I hope to be wrong. These are not numbers, they are real people, who “loved and were loved”.
Best regards to all, Allan MacRae
Turning and tuning in the widening gyre,
the falcon cannot hear the falconer…
– Yeats
What sprang to mind when I read the hashtag #AskDrH was Preparation H
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preparation_H
Can’t think why!
The only cure for ignorance is education.
The only cure for breath-taking ignorance is a plan followed by education.
The only cure for extreme ignorance is a change in world view, a plan and then education.
Skeptics are not going to succeed in bringing into place a change in world view, a plan and education if they don’t stop with the endless and divisive harping about minor matters like trying to find a favourite whipping boy.
Skeptics-with-a-persecution-complex is not a new world view. Opposing anything global is simply not going to fly with the billions of people on this planet who want global solutions to global problems. If the skeptic community doesn’t face up to the fact there are global problems like human health, air and water quality, animal disease and financial regulations requiring global rules and global enforcement, people will not listen, even if skeptics cluster together. That’s why there are so many international regulatory bodies. They are needed. The fact that some of them are a little nutty doesn’t mean they are not required. You can’t advocate ‘no international controls on anything’ as a solution to global problems just because some climate nuts or military nuts or public education nuts have taken control of this or that sector of this or that government.
Skeptics have to come in from the cold. You can’t stand in front of someone and ask them nicely to please stop infecting my population with Ebola or bird flu or pharmaceuticals in my water supply. The UN is corrupt, underfunded and unworkably undemocratic. It needs reformation, not elimination. To do that we need creative input, not creative snark.
CO2 is the WMD of the current US administration. Rally the troops, misdirect vast resources. *Yawn*. It looks so-o-o familiar. Opposing corrupt green politics requires a plan to reform the UN because no one country is acceptable as a global policeman however great they are in their own eyes. Democracy for some is not an option. Darkness is opposed by light, not rage.
Hello Crispin and thank you for your comments.
Cold weather (aka Winter) kills many more people every year than warm weather. That is why there is a parameter called the Excess Winter Mortality Rate. This winter across Europe and Russia, Excess Winter Mortality will probably exceed 500,000 souls.
I expect that global temperatures will start to cool substantially within a decade (probably sooner), and Excess Winter Mortality Rates will increase. That will put an end to global warming mania, after trillions of dollars have been squandered and many lives needlessly lost.
Last winter was colder than seasonal norms and this winter is projected to be similarly cold in central and eastern North America, all the way to northern Mexico. This winter is projected to be much colder than norms all across Russia and cold in countries on its western and southern borders.
Most people are sensible – they know when they are cold and miserable, and when grannie dies during the winter they tend to take notice. That is the sad destiny that has been set in motion, especially for the poor and elderly, by acolytes of global warming mania.
Yes, education is required, and I suggest it will include some very hard lessons. As usual, I hope to be wrong …
A belated Happy St Crispin’s Day.
Regards, Allan
Previously posted [excerpt]:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/21/will-green-politics-soon-be-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-1796208
This winter in the Northern Hemisphere is predicted to be quite cold in North America (Eastern and Central), Western Europe and very cold all across Russia, compared to seasonal norms.
Energy costs in Europe are much more expensive than in North America, due to imbecilic European green energy policies to “fight global warming” and irrational green opposition to shale fracking. Many elderly and poor in Europe will not be able to keep warm this winter, due to the unnecessarily high cost of energy.
I am concerned about a significant increase in excess winter mortality rates. Winter cold kills many more people than summer heat – typically about 15% more people die monthly in Europe during the four winter months than in the eight non-winter months. Excess Winter Mortality in Europe and Russia amounts to over 500,000 souls per year – these are real people, not just statistics.
While other factors such as flu deaths contribute to Excess Winter Mortality rates, I suggest that the inability to heat their homes in winter due to high energy costs is a significant cause of death and illness, particularly among the elderly and the poor.
I suggest we can thank the greens for causing widespread suffering and death among the elderly and poor. I further suggest that the greens should be held accountable as the consequences of their irresponsible conduct become fully apparent.
Regards to all, Allan
Excess Winter Mortality in Europe: a Cross Country Analysis Identifying Key Risk Factors
http://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784.full
Table 1 – Coefficient of seasonal variation in mortality (CSVM) in EU-14 (mean, 1988–97)
CSVM 95% CI
Austria 0.14 (0.12 to 0.16)
Belgium 0.13 (0.09 to 0.17)
Denmark 0.12 (0.10 to 0.14)
Finland 0.10 (0.07 to 0.13)
France 0.13 (0.11 to 0.15)
Germany 0.11 (0.09 to 0.13)
Greece 0.18 (0.15 to 0.21)
Ireland 0.21 (0.18 to 0.24)
Italy 0.16 (0.14 to 0.18)
Luxembourg 0.12 (0.08 to 0.16)
Netherlands 0.11 (0.09 to 0.13)
Portugal 0.28 (0.25 to 0.31)
Spain 0.21 (0.19 to 0.23)
UK 0.18 (0.16 to 0.20)
Mean 0.16 (0.14 to 0.18)
Further evidence of extreme bad faith is the brownshirt tactics of global warming acolytes.
Below is a list of those forced from their institutions due to global warming thugism.
I have heard from credible sources, but have no proof, that John Holdren was involved in one of these dismissals.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/27/a-big-goose-step-backwards/#comment-1800850
Re Richard M’s post above:
“People have lost their jobs for having a skeptical opinion.””
Here is a list of those forced from their institutions due to global warming thugism
George Taylor – Oregon State Climatologist
Sallie Baliunas – Harvard University
Pat Michaels – University of Virginia
Murry Salby – Macquarie University, Australia
Caleb Rossiter – Institute for Policy Studies, USA
Nickolas Drapela, PhD – Oregon State University
Henrik Møller – Aalborg University, Denmark
David (?) Legates also had quite a story to tell. (There’s a wuwt thread devoted to it.)
Are governments really idiots? Or is there really something wrong with the voters who vote for them? After all Obama was reelected, Cameron was reelected, senators and representatives and MPs have been there for decades.
You delude yourselves.
Hello George,
In any delusional cult movement such as global warming mania, there are scoundrels and there are imbeciles – and the two terms are not mutually exclusive.
Regards, Allan
Excerpt below from my 2009 post:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/08/more-maunder-than-dalton/#comment-129231
What worries me is that the scoundrels and imbeciles of the global warming cult are driving society in the wrong direction, and wasting trillions of dollars in scarce resources to fight their favorite fantasy – humanmade global warming.
If this foolish and destructive direction is not reversed soon, I fear that humanity will suffer greatly.
We are completely unprepared if severe global cooling happens.
“We have this new toolkit…..bend over.”
You’ve got Gruber Mail, you “stupid Americans.”
Is Holdren trying to pull a Gruber on us?
Do they know where I can get a good deal on a snowblower?
Ask Dr. Holdren your questions on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Vine with the hashtag #AskDrH — and he’ll answer some of them on camera.
i always ask Dr. Holdren and then do the opposite since he is always wrong. Head nitwit surrounded by legions of nitwits like Dr. Holdren who could not get a correct answer to if it was night or day,
Why does anything that is emitted from that Orwellian Animal Farm surprise anyone?
I recently read the RISKY BUSINESS REPORT on CLIMATE CHANGE. I noted that to me the report appeared to be flawed, exaggerated the threat and biased . It seemed to focus on global warming only and completely ignored other climate risks like the possibility of climate cooling in the future To illustrate my point I have taken just one state , namely ILLINOIS.
PER RISKY BUSINESS REPORT
FOR ILLINOIS, MIDWEST
BY 2020-2039 SUMMER TEMPERATURE S WILL BE 75.6 to 77.8 F( or ABOUT 1.6 TO 3.8 F rise above 1998-2013 AVERAGE
Number of days over 95.6F is 6-17 when it is too hot to go out
The projected increase in Midwest surface air temperatures won’t just affect the health of the region’s crops; it will also put the region’s residents at risk. Over the past 40 years, the Midwest experienced only 2.7 days on average over 95°F. If we stay on our current climate path, the average Midwest resident will likely experience an additional 7 to 26 days above 95°F each year by mid-century, and 20 to 75 additional extreme-heat days—potentially more than 2 additional months per year of extreme heat—by the end of the century. On the other hand, the region will also experience fewer winter days with temperatures below freezing.
LET’S LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ILLINOIS SINCE 1998 OR LAST 16 YEARS USING CLIMATE AT A GLANCE NOAA CLIMATE DATA BASE( US GOVERNMENT RECORDS)
THE AVERAGE SUMMER TEMPERATURE 1998-2013 IS 74 F
ANNUAL TEMPERATURE TREND IS DECLINING( -0.6 F/DECADE)
WINTER TEMPERATURE TREND IS DECLINING( -3.3 F /DECADE 17 YEARS)
FEBRUARY TEMPERATURE TREND IS DECLINING ( -6.6 F/DECADE) [TEMP DROPPED FROM 41F to19.4 F or a drop of 20 degrees since 1998]
SUMMER TEMPERATURE TREND IS SLIGHTLY RISING( + 0.7 F/DECADE)
FALL TEMPERATURE TREND IS DECLINING( -1.3 F/DECADE )
SPRING TEMPERATURE TREND IS DECLINING( -0.1 F/ DECADE)
120 YEAR SUMMER TREND SINCE 1895 IS ZERO 0.0 F/DECADE (FLAT
From Chicago Tribune, MARCH 3, 2014
The National Weather Service has gauged this season’s chills, in part, by noting the number of days with subzero temperatures from the start of November through the end of March. By that measure, the allegedly just-ended season had the fourth-most days with the mercury below zero. But add in days when the temperature sunk to exactly zero, and suddenly, this season is Chicago’s new No. 1.
What is of note is that the 4 month period from Dec1 to March 31 ,2014 was the coldest winter since 142 years ago or since records were kept completely opposite of what Risky Business predicts
COMMENTS
How one can look at what is happening to the climate in Illinois, with the annual, spring, winter, fall temperatures dropping and very severely in the winter and then only focus on a potential summer heat threat is grossly exaggerating and misinforming the public about what the real climate risks are for Illinois.
The latest or past 16 year summer temperature trend is slightly warming( 0.7 F/DECADE ) and the long term summer trend is zero warming. Yes there are periodic summer heat spells but this not the long term trend. Not to point out the severe winter trend which is the real climate risk where February or mid winter month has a cooling trend of 6.6F/decade and the complete winters have a cooling trend of 3.3F/decade, is even more troubling. Why are winter temperatures so important? Because very cold winters lead to cold spring and cold summers and lower the annual temperature as well. This pattern has led to 17 year pause in the rise of global temperatures and will lead to 2-3 decades of colder global temperatures .
The RISKEY BUSINES REPORT is just another example of misinformation being put out by the Democrats similar to the above letter. They exaggerate the climate threat beyond reason or what is rational
“Climate risk” is just one more lame effort on the propagandists’ part to reframe the message. Never mind the science, they’re saying, just look at the “risk”, which, by the way we know, because it’s based on “the science”, but you needn’t worry about that. Trust us, we’re from the government, and only want what’s best
for usfor you and for the planet.At the moment I am watching the Trains magazine webcam at the UP-BNSF diamonds in Rochelle, Illinois, where a long United Pacific coal train is slowly passing through. A while ago an equally-long BNSF unit oil train clattered across the diamonds as well. These ‘fossil fuel’ trains warm the very cockles of my heart! Here is the precious stuff that will continue to power our civilization, and even release some long-sequestered CO2 to grow more crops to feed the world. It is hard to imagine that the deluded ideologues in the White House will be able to stop these trains from fueling the American economy, try though they might. At some point the American people are going to cry, “Enough! Out with these miscreants and fools!” Indeed, I think they already did, back on November 4th.
/Mr Lynn
That’s UNION Pacific, of course. /Mr L
Rochelle is about 10 miles from where I live. Good news.
Mods: Is everything being sent to moderation again? Or just my (very) occasional comments? Anyway, just saw another of Dr Hansen’s “death trains”—second one in about a half hour. “Keeping the lights on,” as the TV ad says. /Mr L
While it bothers me that ‘we, the people” have been recently called “stupid”, it bothers me even more that “we, the people” don’t seem to be smart enough to realize that we’ve just been called stupid.
You know, there might be something profound there, but I’m just not seeing it.
/grin
“Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get.” – from the Notebooks of Lazarus Long, by Robert Heinlein.
(+10) An excellent bumper sticker!
Local farmers are building more bins to store the record corn and soybean crops………..yeah, they’re ready.
Fits total with the actions of any cult based on known lies and fraud. Just double down to the cult base.
“Ten years ago, the Pentagon paid for a climate study that put forth many scary scenarios.
Consultants told the military that, by now, California would be flooded by inland seas, The Hague would be unlivable, polar ice would be mostly gone in summer, and global temperatures would rise at an accelerated rate as high as 0.5 degrees a year.
None of that has happened…
The report also became gospel to climate change doomsayers, who predicted pervasive and more intense hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts…Doug Randall, who co-authored the Pentagon report, said, “Even I’m surprised at how often it’s referred to…
Asked about his scenarios for the 2003-2010 period, Mr. Randall said in an interview: “The report was really looking at worst-case. And when you are looking at worst-case 10 years out, you are not trying to predict precisely what’s going to happen but instead trying to get people to understand what could happen to motivate strategic decision-making and wake people up. But whether the actual specifics came true, of course not. That never was the main intent.”…
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/1/pentagon-wrestles-with-false-climate-predictions-a/?page=all
This Pentagon climate report speaks to the heart of false climate science alarmism that is rampant to day .These alarmist climate science reports are meant to exaggerate and scare people. They do not highlight that these are worst case projections in the opening paragraph. These qualifications never make the headlines or press releases .The rational world does not plan for the future based on worst case scenarios. We might as well all quit living if this was the case . No nation can afford to spend money to mitigate worst case scenarios, nor should they. The problem is that some politicians take these worst case situations and make public policies and actions as if they were true. They then fabricate entirely new falsehoods like carbon dioxide is a pollutant on top of these worst case scenarios and you now have a firm government action thrust on the general public that is all pure fabrication of a worst case scenario that will never come about. Yet it comes from the highest administrative offices in the land
“Twenty-First Century Snake Oil:
Why the United States Should Reject Biofuels as Part of a Rational National Security Energy Strategy
Captain T. A. “Ike” Kiefer”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/126243673/21st-Century-Snake-Oil-Why-the-U-S-Should-Reject-Biofuels-as-Part-of-a-Rational-National-Security-Energy-Strategy
Odd in this case is directly proportional to the lack of interest in science integrity at the WH.
Wake me up when the White House says climate has stopped changing.
How do we respond to the email?
I have questions for Mr Holdren.
Dear Mr. Holdren,
The nose hair in my left nostril grows at a rate of almost 3 times that of the right nostril. Is this due to Global Warming, Climate Change or Both?
Thank you.
Patrick,
You can’t trick me.
You’re just chasing a substantial research grant.
For Holdren to say something rational about science, is like waiting for Eric Holder to say that : ‘Racism in America will stop, when the NAACP, El Razo, and the Congressional Black Caucus all disband, and distribute their collective immense wealth to the Nation’s poor.’
And I have that unfortunate “white privilege” gene, so I am not responsible for my views; it’s not my fault; I was born with the defect.
If we translated this to a time 5,000 years ago…
Big warmy come! Really big, big hot!
Lotsa wind, lotsa bad bad stormy.
Water come up! Swallow your hut! Fill your cave.
IT ALL YOUR FAULT! Climate God berry, berry mad.
Not too late fix, but too late soon!
Gimmy half your cows now and I makey go away.
Hey Ralph:
“In the Korean War the F4 it was fighting Migs of half the weight and a quater of the cost, and the Migs were doing quite well, thank you. As I said, we were led by donkeys then, and we are led by donkeys now. ”
Are you talking about the F4 Phantom 2? I didn’t think the UK used those even in Vietnam – and I’m very sure they were not even in existence during the Korean War…
Not only that, but even in Vietnam, the F4 had a 12 to 1 kill ratio. At least for US pilots…
Motogeek, it was the F-4U Corsair that was the effective MIG fighter and CAS platform. It had a shorter turning radius than the MIG and allowed it to get on the inside most of the time. My father was in VMF-214 and a mechanic on plane #15 during Korea.
You are correct about the F-4 Phantom during Vietnam
I think it was the F-86 Saber jet that was fighting MIG-15s in Korea. The F-4 Phantom didn’t even exist. The F4-U4 Corsair was WW-II vintage (Black Sheep and all that)
The F-86 was quite superior to the MIG-15 in Korea. In Viet Nam, the MIG-21 was much more nimble than the F-4 Phantom (which is a totally huge plane). But the Phantom had superior weapons systems, which gave it the edge, until Russian SAMS showed up.
The MIGS of that era were relatively simple, and simple to service, and yes much cheaper than US planes. But in the end you get what you pay for.
And the RAF F-4H RR-Spey Phantom, was one hell of an aircraft; but not necessarily what was needed at the time.
I was living in St Louis MO, when MacDonald was building the F-4H for the RAF, and those things were a sight to behold.
Actually, we passed one up while making a landing approach to Lambert Field in a Cessna 172. We were coming back from a trip to LA in the 172, and the F-4H was coming back from a QA test flight. The MO ANG was flying F-100 super sabres, back then, and the F-4H could eat those for lunch and spit out the scrap metal. The F-4 had a weird boundary layer control system, that could keep the wings flying at very low speeds, by blowing engine exhaust out over the wings, so their landing speed was very very slow.
And that resulted in a screaming whine on landing that was unmistakable.
Heck of a plane, the F-4 Phantom; but maybe not quite what was wanted at the time; it was intended for a different war.
Here’s my question: “people are making millions off of the great climate scare; how can I get in on the action?”
I live in the far corner of NE Oregon. Wake me when I am buried in 10 feet of snow or 10 inches of water or 10 mm of blown in dust. Till then…scram.
The good news: we finally have a republican congress plus senate.
The bad news: they are the party that denies the global warming stuff, but Unfortunately, they do not formulate a firm argument why they are against. That is a sure way to lose the case.
Meanwhile we will have to tolerate a white house that continues to be fed with one-sided information and they have another 24 months to run amok.
Well “Congress Plus Senate” is redundant. The Senate is part of Congress.
And the Republicans who aren’t yet in control, have just shown that they aren’t going to stick to their campaign promises. They can spend with the best of the Democrats.
They just voted for a humungous spending spree of pork ladled onto what was supposed to be a Military appropriations bill. No they didn’t vote a lot more money for veterans affairs, or anything like that. But plenty of money to clean some monuments back East that nobody even knows exist.
From the Climate Resilience Toolkit:
“To identify the climate stressors that could impact you, your business, or your community, think about weather- and climate-related events that occurred in the past or happened elsewhere in your region. In many cases, climate change will make such events more frequent or intense.”
And of course, it is equally likely, if not more, that climate change will make such events less frequent or intense.
Yes watch out for global cooling as sun cycle 25 brings a new grand minimum.
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