The de-evolution of climate activism

National Review’s Katherine Timpf interviews protestors at the Flood Wall Street climate march. Some segments are just unbearable to watch.

The video pretty much tells you all you need to know.

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202 thoughts on “The de-evolution of climate activism

  1. I wish I could agree that this was ‘funny’.
    There’s several too many exhortations to violence against dissenters in there for my liking.
    On the plus side it looks like the talks myself and Anonymong had with the marchers at the London Climate march were with the saner activists. Sheesh!

  2. The interviewees were unimpressive in any moral or intellectual sense, but then so is every single one of the prominent campaigners for alarm over our CO2. It is utterly astonishing how successful they have been.
    Can anyone think of any well-known and admirable campaigner for climate alarm? Or is that just a contradiction in terms?

    • Well-known – HRH Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales.
      Heir to Queen Elizabeth II.
      Admirable – everyone is entitled to an opinion.
      I was not struck by Diana.
      I think Charles’s view on modern architecture are, on the whole, very sane.
      Likewise most of his views on farming, the (British) countryside, general conservation, and related topics.
      But, on climate change, I feel his Cambridge degree in Anthropology [IIRC] may not have equipped him to understand even the standard fare on WUWT.
      Can one pity him?
      Yes.
      Even before I was born [and I have an old-farts bus pass], he was the Heir Apparent; his Mum [QE II, remember} is going strong at 88 plus. {And her Mum managed 101 . . . . }
      But, despite that, I think he does not understand the Global climate issues as well as he and his advisers think he does.
      Auto

      • As a proud citizen of the once Dominion of Canada, I pray QE2 outlives her idiot inbred son. I would vote to end our proud association with the British and the Monarchy should that fool become King.

      • Peter, many of us within the UK are ‘against’ the monarchy, but we all recognise that the Queen only stays where she is because she knows full well that His Twatness would end up with Britain becoming a republic. Despite the fact that I have no time for her, I admire the fact that she can see he is an idiot of extraordinary magnitude.

  3. You can always find examples of fringe lunatics in all protests … though I imagine she didn’t have to look very hard to find her examples. 🙂

  4. Worse than ISIL.
    At least they only want to set up their islamic caliphate in someone else’s country. These nutters want to “burn down houses”, “take a sledgehammer to everything” and destroy capitalism for the whole world. Maybe there should be some drones flying over New York!

    • off subject, but the ISIL folks want the same thing for the world not just their country’s. Don’ be foolish.

      • I disagree. ISIL is a threat from outside, they’re clearly visible, they stand out. Threats from outside are significantly easier to identify and neutralize. Plus, “we” can go to the source of an external threat and take the battle there.
        These people are threats from inside. They blend in. They actually represent a shockingly large percentage of our civilization (I blame the education system and the news fabri… er… media). Threats from inside immediately circle and gain support when you attempt to neutralize them. There is no way to take the battle elsewhere, they have defined the battleground as Here.

  5. Wow – interesting video. A question that always bothers me though is why do AGW advocates use models that base predictions on the doubling of CO2? At the current rate of increase it will be approximately 150/200 years before this happens. Now I expect human ingenuity to move beyond hydrocarbon fuels within half of that time. On that basis (and assuming we’re talking clean fuels) surely CO2 levels will then stabilise or even begin to fall? Not very scientific I appreciate but I don’t recall seeing this argument raised before.

    • “Now I expect human ingenuity to move beyond hydrocarbon fuels within half of that time. ”
      I wouldn’t bank on this. You may turn out to be right, but hydrocarbon fuels have been around a long time. People have been heating with wood for millenia. Newcomen built his steam engine in 1712 – 300 years ago. It’s purpose was to pump water out of coal mines – coal that was being used for heat and iron production.
      Until 60 years ago, there was really no option. Unfortunately, the same retards who are so frightened of hydrocarbons have been dead set against its only real alternative – nuclear. Whether they will remove their heads from their rectums in the next century in anyone’s guess, but I’m pessimistic.
      If something else comes along, the watermelons will be against it too, as a cheap and abundant energy source is against their religion. Human ingenuity isn’t needed so much to invent new technologies, as it is to figure out how to get the enviro-leftist segment of society to move to reality or to remove their influence from the rest of us.

      • –If something else comes along, the watermelons will be against it too, as a cheap and abundant energy source is against their religion. Human ingenuity isn’t needed so much to invent new technologies, as it is to figure out how to get the enviro-leftist segment of society to move to reality or to remove their influence from the rest of us.–
        They are religion. Only way to beat a religion is with another religion.
        I suggest the sport fan religion should incorporate other religious beliefs- and
        the sport I would suggest is space exploration.
        Related to this in terms of audience viewing would be air shows, though more related would rocket racing.
        The enviro-leftist may or may not hate football or air shows, but there better chance they will hate
        rocket racing. More fans of rocket racing will create a better future.

    • I understand approximately half of the CO2 we emit is absorbed by the system and doesn´t stay in the air. Using that figure I went ahead and estimated the CO2 concentration we can theoretically achieve if we use all the fossil fuel reserves listed in BP´s Factbook of World Energy. The estimate yielded 620 to 630 ppm beyond 2100. However, I didn´t include estimated CO2 emissions for cement plants.

  6. She interviewed plenty of airhead bimbos that lacked the one and only saving feature of the kind – pleasing eye-candy.
    My apologies to bimbo airheads everywhere for the comparison.

  7. I fear violence is in the offing, and I’ll be pointing my finger straight at Barack Obama. I didn’t think it was possible for anyone dumber than George Bush to be elected President. I was wrong. In fact, George is looking pretty good to me right now

  8. They need a Million Mann March.
    Imaging a million of Michael Mann goose-stepping along, hockey stick in one hand, fauxbel prize in the other, chanting:
    Hey Hey – Ho Ho! Those kids of yours aint gonna know snow!

  9. Just use the Occupy excuse. Those were just a few “bad apples”. That isn’t really representative of the whole and if you don’t believe that you belong in jail.

  10. Threats of arson, threats of bodily harm. Threats to children.
    They seem to have learned well from their predecessors. We can only hope that they stay marginalized, or civilization is doomed.

      • One of my favorite movie quotes:

        I know what I am talking about when I am talking about the revolutions. The people who read the books go to the people who can’t read the books, the poor people, and say, “We have to have a change.” So, the poor people make the change, ah? And then, the people who read the books, they all sit around the big polished tables, and they talk and talk and talk and eat and eat and eat, eh? But what has happened to the poor people? They’re dead! That’s your revolution. Shhh… So, please, don’t tell me about revolutions! And what happens afterwards? The same f**king thing starts all over again!

        Juan Miranda
        The movie is alternatively titled, “Duck You Sucker”, “A Fistful of Dynamite”, or “Once Upon a Time In The Revolution”
        It dovetails with your comment.

    • God made man
      But he used the monkey to do it
      Apes in the plan
      We’re all here to prove it
      I can walk like an ape, Talk like an ape
      Do what a monkey do
      God made man
      But a monkey supplied the glue.
      Read more: Devo – Jocko Homo Lyrics | MetroLyrics

  11. So wait, I am confused. According to the polar bear we will not even be able to comprehend the level of heat increase? Only 2/3 of mammals die though?

    • An inability to comprehend the level of anything is part and parcel of their mindset. Do you not recall that their All Most High and Worthy Albert Gore proclaiming that temperatures of the Earth’s interior were “extremely hot, several million degrees”?

  12. Notice how, if even one nominally “right wing” crazy shows up anywhere in the country carrying a stupid sign, that will be Top of the Line coverage on every MSM outlet and paper for the next week – “Look how Crazy and Evil those people are!”
    But as soon as the group is affiliated with the left, they can openly advocate for concentration camps and mass slaughter, and today’s media will conspire to hide any reports of what they say. Because, of course, these left wing crazy groups are just spouting what every good leftist believes in their hearts, but they hate it when the mask is ripped off.
    The modern news media today sees it’s mission as being the ones who hide and destroy any stories that they think don’t help either this administration, or their own personal political desires. As such, they are even worse than the old Soviet Pravda, because they still claim to be “honest” and “impartial”.

    • Unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about the liberal bias of the MSM – they are nearly all left wing progressives now. And they will stop at nothing to destroy the culture and traditions of our great country.
      But, there IS something you can do to fight back. I call it my ** divestment strategy ** for removing the left wing, progressivism which permeates our modern life. Simply remove these MSM sources from your computer/ipad, your televison, your print material, and your cell phone. Do you have a CNN app on your cell phone? Get rid of it? Do you happen to subscribe to a liberal publication like Time or the New York Times? Unsubscribe. And get rid of links to all MSM websites (and that includes awful weather sites like the Weather Channel and Weather Underground) on your computer. Don’t even visit those sites for basic information. Every click means more money in their pockets. Just visit an alternative site or news aggregator which does the sorting through the liberal MSM for you.
      Nothing will change unless we do something…

      • Let them express themselves. Most people learn to recognize a con after being victimized several times. These extremist CAGW’rs are either poor examples of con artists or victims of the con.

      • You describe what I have already done. I also don’t watch any TV show that has promoted or uncritically showed climate alarmism. This includes any shows produced by the BBC (Doctor Who, In The Flesh ; that I would otherwise have watched), InnerSPACE, William Shatners Weird or What, Daily Planet, the Weather Channel, CBC National News…
        I kid you not, I’m watching Gilligan’s Island right now. No Global Warming in sight in 1967 :-). Ha ha, Gilligan’s fillings are made with explosive plastic…

  13. I am sure that the interviews were edited to show the looniest of the looneys there, and most marchers, while misguided, were not as bad as these lunatics. At least I hope so.

  14. Now could someone in the know post the names of the celebs and politically connected that were proud to be a part of this mob/march.
    Please list names in a tabular form (one name per line) and in bold.

    • Further to my above comment, could a list be made of the high profile alarmists that did not attend this most important mob assembly.
      Telling indeed!

  15. I’m reminded of people of Walmart videos and crazy Russian drivers videos. All cherry picked and unrepresentative of the general population. Not WUWT’s best day. There is a lot of factual information out there that debunks the ideas of the alarmist without singling out the nutters even the alarmists would surely rather do without. This post deserves to be filed with the recently disappeared Krugman spoof.

    • dp,
      Allowing climate fanatics to speak openly is bad for skeptics exactly how?
      Unrepresentative? RFK jr. is now unrepresentative?
      lol@u

    • dp- I watched real time video interviews with such people as Bernie Sanders and several Leftists organizations participating in the Climate march event. There wasn’t a rational or truthful statement from any of them. There are plenty of video interviews out there from the event and they all show exactly the same thing. You can call it cherry picking and subtly denigrate WUWT if you wish, but the video in this thread comes a lot closer to showing the reality of just who was marching down the street than what you imagine and try to defend.

      • Just remember the ol’ Payback’s a Bitch saying when some alarmist creates a “People of WUWT” video using skeptic nutter posts from here. They definitely exist; they’re definitely not representative.

    • “This post deserves to be filed with the recently disappeared Krugman spoof.”
      What is the recently disappeared Krugman spoof? And how does one spoof him? A guy who thinks an alien invasion would be a great thing for the economy?

    • A people of WUWT video? Where exactly would they create this video, are having a CAGW skeptics gathering? That isn’t a bad idea. But exactly how and why would any radical-conservatives be associated with WUWT? This site does not promote radicalism. It promotes anti-alarmism. I’ve never seen anything on here advocating violence against people on here.
      Furthermore, this video is very relevant to post on WUWT as it pertains to anti alarmism. The very behavior that we are against (climate alarmism) is where these loons are getting their ideas. Do you think they are getting these ideas on their own or do you think the behavior portrayed in the video is generated from the constant bombardment of climate alarmism? I’ll go with the later.

      • Until the mods put an end to it, we used to get a large number of the “Sky Slayer” types on here. Some of their posts were almost as “out there” as these people (though I don’t remember any of them threatening violence).

    • Only 35% of Americans can name the three branches of government. Which, of course, we know are (I’ve got a) phone, (I’ve got a) pen, and Harry Reid.
      I think these people are entirely representative.

    • Agreed the average person who is concerned with climate issues is not like the angry, semi-deranged and ignorant seen in this video. I know a number of nice, reasonable people swayed by the 97% consensus, science is settled, etc, unaware of the the boondoggle behind it. And how would they know when segments of mainstream news media like the LA times has banned anything other than the Gore/Mann line?
      The reason alarmism has gotten such a foothold in the media and subsequently in otherwise reasonable people, is because the discussion has been hi-jacked by alarmist dishonesty, ignorance and power lust and unfortunately the people in the video does accurately represent those sensibilities that is driving alarmism.

    • Unfortunately these nutters are not the exception. And the ignorance doesn’t stop here but is a reflection of the progressive teaching from elementary through graduate school. As a teacher at all these levels I have dealt with these brainwashes and their methods for 30 years.

    • dp, After watching the Kennedy interview on 21st September I became very concerned. There´s a lot of poison being put in the water by climate extremists. And the president doesn´t help with his hysterical statements. I´m extremely disappointed he has turned out the way he did.

      • Fernando, in your experience is there ANY sect of the great church that is the climate movement which ISN’T pervasively venomous (or Venemous)?
        I’m not referring to the individual parishioners, most of whom are ordinary decent people, but the ones who feel entitled/compelled/qualified to evangelise/proselytize/apologise for it. With some honorable exceptions (like yourself [?], “Liam23,” CRR Kampen, others I’ve forgotten) aren’t most public climate-concernists more like the unlovely BBD and Eli’s other rabid rabbitoids?

    • The guy talking about the sledgehammer got some laughs… And then I looked again…
      At :30 where the plaid shirt guy is talking about burning their houses down, white shirt sledgehammer guy is lurking around in the background.
      At :56 where f’n sledgehammer guy is talking about busting everything up, plaid shirt guy is lurking around in the background.
      Sleeveless disobey dude also makes a b/g appearance…

  16. I’ll bet my bottom dollar this video will never make MSM. However, imagine if people from a Tea Party rally used some of the inflammatory rhetoric used by the CAGW wackadoodles seen in this video. I dare say MSM as well as Obama would have plenty to say. Hypocrisy at its worst.

  17. Before the Climategate email releases, belief in CAGW was pretty mainstream….Newt Gingrich, Nancy Pelosi, John McCain, etc. all supported controls on carbon. After Climategate, it was like a balloon was punctured, and this is what is left.
    I wonder how hot it was inside of that bear suit? Is it hard to put hand-cuffs on a polar bear?

    • Is it hard to put hand-cuffs on a polar bear?
      Speaking from personal experience handling and transporting dangerous stock (“Lions, and Tigers, and Bears – Oh My!”) and more mundane critters, I would never, ever attempt to handcuff a polar bear without a huge dose of general anesthetic first….. for the bear, of course!

  18. dp September 26, 2014 at 10:05 am
    Dave September 26, 2014 at 10:09 am
    You’re both right. It may not be WUWT’s finest day but the MSM and the powers that be consistently paint skeptics in just such a light. If we were an identifiable minority, it would be a hate crime.

  19. Odd how, within the extreme climate movement like that, there are poor and rich within it, and the poor hate the rich and the rich hate the poor. They both think that the others cause the problems.

    • To not procreate requires responsibility, planning, and forethought. Anotherwords, to not procreate requires brains. These people are the result of procreation run amok.

      • “Anotherwords, to not procreate requires brains.”
        You’re so good looking you don’t even have to talk to the women, in other words?

  20. What’s fueling this fanaticism is one-sided, semi-hysterical climate porn sites like Romm’s. These fanatics read nothing else but the exaggerated and hysterical material from the warmist side, including its demonization of contrarians–no wonder they are so wrought up.

  21. Threats of violence, dumb silence, incomprehensible gibberish? Didn’t anybody else listen to Pres. Obama’s speech?

  22. I love how many flew in to NYC to attend, even though there were marches closer to their homes, but that they flew on jets to attend the march, how is that for hypocrisy? Oh I forgot, they are the elites, and they are doing good work, and they are making a difference, and their own rules do not apply to them.

  23. National Review is using the same trick that Alarmists use – focusing on the extremely looney on the other side – that’s not a scientific sampling – this video doesn’t tell rational people “all they need to know” – unless there’s a missing “/sarc” – that assertion reflects badly on WUWT

    • We don’t know whether it’s a “scientific” sampling or not. Depends on whose definition you use. I would like to know, though, how many clips they shot overall and how many they rejected.

      • jorgekafkazar September 26, 2014 at 11:25 am
        We don’t know whether it’s a “scientific” sampling or not. Depends on whose definition you use. I would like to know, though, how many clips they shot overall and how many they rejected

        i can take an educated guess re the sampling practice used by NR – i’m brazen enuf to privately imagine that more interviews were captured – and that the more rational ones were rejected – but even if proven wrong – my main theme wouldn’t be
        as for a definition of “scientific” sampling – i’m referring to a definition that would satisfy the claim that the video responses are “all we need to know” – it’s like saying that all we need to know the alarmism is Michael Mann

    • BS.
      Go watch any of the many video interviews conducted during the event(s). In varying degrees, they all show the same kind of thinking. There are plenty of interviews published on the net by the marching advocacy groups themselves, which highlight their own distorted thinking.
      Free speech is a messy affair and you are witnessing the result of years of the professional propagandists’ CAGW advocacy which has blanketed the masses at every turn.
      How is it that people are all over this thread implying that the videos (shown now in several threads,) aren’t representative of the truth? How is it that people appear saying that WUWT and others should keep silent?

      • Funny isn’t it? They’re out in force doing damage control after The People’s Climate March turned out to be a revolutionary socialist lovefest.

      • a careless reading of my post might gather that i’m impying that WUWT shouldn’t publish things like this video – my protest was over Anthony’s interpretation of the video – “all we need to know” – it’s the Red Scare all over again – the opponent is more sensible than you think – and even more sensible than some who leave comments at WUWT – the skeptics have a fringe element too

  24. I am not aware of the National Review or this interviewer. I guess it is very right wing and they want to put over the point that the protestors are stupid and violent.
    I would like to believe that the interviewer selected the dozen most stupid people in the march and most of the rest were more rational.
    Anyone reading this actually there? Anyone seen a more balanced interview?
    I accept there are going to be lots of irrational activists and those promoting an adjacent agenda such as smashing capitalism. But there must have been a good core of more reasonable people surely?
    tonyb

    • climatereason
      September 26, 2014 at 11:36 am
      “I would like to believe that the interviewer selected the dozen most stupid people in the march and most of the rest were more rational.”
      The rest were the ones with the Socialism Now banners. They’re not interested in the temperature, they just want their central planning and an end to any free decision by anyone.

    • There is lots of footage on YouTube filmed by the marchers themselves which isn’t much different from hers. IMO National Review is mainstream conservative, not very right wing.

    • Climatereason, RFK Jr. was one of the most prominent individuals attending the march. He and his family are very well known and thought of (at least by those on the left), extremely influential, and very wealthy. Listen to the videos posted of him and his beliefs from the march, especially how people who disagree with him should be jailed. I don’t see that as any less extreme than the views shown in Katherine Timpf’s video.

      • Dave
        I just watched Michelle interviewing rfkjr
        He didn’t seem very bright or coherent.
        Is he currently a politician over there?
        Tonyb

      • tony,September 26, 2014 at 1:34 pm
        RFK Jr. is one of the nephews of the late President JFK and son of RFK Sr, who was attorney general for his brother. He’s an attorney specializing in environmental law, and also (I think) hosts a radio show, though I’ve never listened to it and am not sure I want to. He’s not holding any political office at the moment, but his family has been very prominent in American politics for years with his uncle John as President, his father, but probably more than most his uncle Ted who was Senator from Massachusetts for many years. Check out the chain of events that occurred at Chappaquiddick to get a feel for the man, not a pretty picture, and that’s being kind. Also, you also might want to check out Uncle Ted’s involvement with the KGB in the 80’s. If RFK Jr wants to find treason, he needs look no further than Teddy.

  25. For those like dp who accuse this coverage of being unrepresentative..
    Please provide links to a sane CAGW seer..at a climate control march.
    These rent a mob fellows are ignorant and vicious, those interviewed are very representative of the members of the Cult of Calamitous Climate.
    Useful idiots who can be loaded up with hatred and pointed at any convenient scapegoat.
    There is no difference between these people and any other zealot.
    Think of them as cannon fodder for any cause.

    • I’m not talking about this being representative of people who swarm on demand – it isn’t representative of the alarmist faction generally. Any crowd like this is going to have nutters show up and that is where the cameras are going to be. See more at the RFK Jr. interviews. I disagree these on-demand crowds are representative of anything except people who like to attend such pointless events. Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uap4qugVlq4

  26. Just went to the first session of a local class at my community college on global warming. The teacher mentioned that the polar ice caps were shrinking. He was astonished when I told him that the polar ice caps were growing. He had no idea what has been happening to the ice caps.
    It was interesting, he happily admitted that there is significant natural variability, then said but we can’t do anything about it, so let’s focus on what we can change.
    One of the fun facts he related is that the average temperature on earth has increased 5 degrees C since the end of the last ice age. I asked him if that was Exxon’s fault.

  27. One guy wants to shame all rich people, regardless if they made their money from global warming studies, a carbon free business, or even from writing books about controlling climate change. Just a lot of self absorbed, jealous and warped people. Is it any wonder these people don’t have a job to go to on a Monday? Would you hire any of these wackos?

  28. Before you laugh too loudly,bear in mind that roughly half the elected officials with responsibility for governing the various civil jurisdictions of the United States either agree with these pathetic characters or, at best, will go out of their way to avoid displeasing them, with the consequences falling on everyone else.

    • in this connection, it’s worth recalling how an audience that included many important Washington politicians in the Democratic party gave Michael Moore a standing ovation for an incoherent rant called 9-11.
      (For those who don’t think it was incoherent, see Christopher Hitchens’ review. [Incidentally, the book the film was supposedly based on, House of Bush, House of Saud was quite good, and unlike the movie quite coherent.])

  29. Well, there are plenty of screwballs on the left, but there are plenty of them on the right also. At least I didnt see anyone in the video carrying asault weapons. A dose of common sense would be very helpful on both sides. We dont know for sure human caused CO2 is not a threat, we just have a pretty good idea the threat has been overstated. Lets not forget there are intelligen,t sensible people on both sides..

    • From one of the stellar examples of humanity in the video: “We’ll just go to their f***ing house and burn their f***ing house down, man!”
      With that kind of terrorist violence being proposed, as a remediation method for the trace gas that all flora on Planet Earth need to live, it is no surprise why a majority of US citizens support the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms for personal protection. That IS common sense, even if they don’t actually carry “asault” (sic) weapons……

    • @ tom port
      What is your motivation to tossing in a reference to so-called “assault weapons?”
      Are you of the persuasion that a semi automatic firearm fires a projectile propelled by CO2? Aughh …..
      But it is nice to know that you are reading this thread. That offers hope for your mental state.

    • more people killed with hammers/blunt objects each year in the US than with firearms.
      this includes beatings.
      so you saw 2 assault weapons on each individual there.
      assault weapon is a term coined to fool suckers.
      you fell for it.

    • Tom Port
      September 26, 2014 at 12:23 pm
      “Lets not forget there are intelligen,t sensible people on both sides..”
      Yeah, but I can convert those in 3 minutes. So they’re losing those pretty fast.

      • DirkH,
        This may not be the place for it (I’d love to know where this is discussed in detail) but could you share your 3-minute conversion argument? I’ve had successes in rescuing people from alarm, but it always takes a bit longer than that.

    • There is no evidence that CO2 is a threat. There is no such thing as an “assault weapon”, a meaningless term invented by enemies of freedom. Unless you mean any weapon with which a person could assaulted.

  30. Cult followings illustrate mass psychosis, with violent potentials.
    I saw similar ilk from (Pick One: Anti-nuclear, Anti-aparthied, Anti-war, Anti-logging, Anti-mining, Anti-American, Socialist, Animal Rights, Feminist Rights, Union Rights, ad nauseum) protesters, as an undergrad and grad student at University of Wisconsin, Oshkosh and Madison campuses. This was during the late 70s and early 80’s. Nearly the same pathetically lame, irrational, and violence espousing rhetoric was applied to disparate ‘protest marches’ by motley human masses that seemed collectively and progressively the same.
    Fast forward +30 years:
    They seem just as collectively and progressively lame, irrational, and violent today.

    • I was there at the same time. Have you been to Madison lately? They’re still there, except now they are teaching, and probably getting research grants from our tax dollars. Yikes.

      • CiW,
        Haven’t been in Madtown in the last decade but may visit my engineering alma mater this Thanksgiving week, to renew some personal and professional connections. I’ll be in Wisconsin for deer hunting with family and a bunch of ‘catching up’ with old friends in Green Lake, Waushara, and Winnebago counties.
        In the early 80s, I used to join some of the left leaning professor’s ‘teach-ins’ on the slopes of Bascom Hill. Being a bit older student, I enjoyed challenging their socialist assertions to their wannabe cadres and had some success encouraging others to think for themselves. Somehow, the umbrage from these professors seemed to shrivel when I pointed out that the slogan “Question Authority!” applied equally well to them…..
        Go Badgers! Go Pack!

  31. Some rational and reasonable people were interviewed at the Climate March! (Just not these people!). 🙂

  32. “The lunatic is in my head.
    The lunatic is in my head
    You raise the blade, you make the change
    You re-arrange me ’til I’m sane.
    You lock the door
    And throw away the key
    There’s someone in my head but it’s not me. ”
    Just something about a few o the folks in that video that make me think of that.

  33. I just finally clicked and watched the whole thing…the movie Idiocracy comes to mind. And just think, these people vote, and reproduce.

  34. Wait, I thought redneck flyover-value denialists like us didn’t BELIEVE in the theory of de-evolution…

  35. “drsanity” no longer blogs (just google it). But this University of Michigan Medical School professor of clinical psychiatry, and former NASA flight surgeon (when the space shuttle Challenger went down) – made it her late-in-life’s duty to chronicle and understand the American Left: besotted by what the Harvard Med School educated psychiatrist-turned pundit Charles Krauthammer dubbed “Bush Derangement Syndrome,” or BDS.
    She concludes that the Left is almost possessed by psychotic rhetorical tropes of diversion, denial, displacement, and projection. In a word, psychosis. While the Right is afflicted by neurotic ones like depression (eg, in 2009, “conservatism is dead”).
    Therefore, she reluctantly – and against Dr Pat Santy’s own husband who is a Democrat – affiliated with the Republicans because the alternative was too dysfunctional and delusional to tolerate.
    dr sanity blogged about it for about ten years. I’d buy her book if there was one. Try googling “drsanity” and any Lefty name you want, or else “defenses” to get introduced to her insights. Her psycho-politico-cultural work remains unsurpassed in critical depth – and sadly, in relevance – as the above video vividly shows.

  36. They certainly look like “normal” Americans to me, having been to Neiman Marcus in Florida a few years ago. Heh Heh. Sorry Alaska.

  37. It is really sad so many people can be so gung-ho and jump on an issue they barely understand except for what is fed to them by news media and politicians and blown way out of proportion to get a more catchy by-line or votes.
    Even if at say worse case scenario of 1/8 degree C per decade (which is not occurring almost two decades now, just a theory), the effects of global warming if it occurs should be completely unnoticeable to humans, but maybe not sheep, like people can really notice 1 degree change in average over a decade. Well Kerry can be more worried about global warming as a threat than ISIL, but misguided idiots at march worry me too since any bs can be fed to them, then you have votes and public policy prescriptions which can do so much more damage than good.

  38. These people are interesting, but you can see and hear them everyday in NYC. What bothers me is this interview with Bernie Sanders during the march (it was supposed to be about Leonardo DiCaprio, but that interview tanked). Sanders says what the administration, the EPA, the congress and the Main Stream Media has been saying, and there is no 60 Minutes investigative report to refute it:
    http://www.pjtv.com/v/10273

    • Wow, you’re right, that’s really scary!
      Apparently he really believes it.
      Notice how he jumped straight to “Who funds you?”

  39. Heh, the polar bear costume looks pretty realistic. Could be a great costume, but I’m curious as to whether it’s a real polar bear skin and if it’s legal.

  40. This pretty much explains why there is little point consulting the public on just about anything. I’m not sure I really understood the point (s) they were trying to make.
    Also, they do realise that burning houses down will increase CO2 emissions…….right?

  41. Regardless of the NR video interviews of last Sunday’s NYC climate march participants, I swear that while at university in the late 1960’s that I saw their ancestral doppelgängers in protest marches back then.
    John

  42. re: the man with the “Grateful Dead” tee shirt. This will get me banned or at least in the censored bin. I was raised by vaudeville circuit grandparents. I still have my grandfather’s touring trunk complete with destination stickers still attached. I have copies of Cecil B. DE Mille silent movies that give me glimpses of my grandmother dancing for the cameras. After retiring from the circuit to run the family ranch, they both continued their craft by providing music and dance lessons of all kinds.
    I, along with two of my three children continued that legacy by being involved in choreography. Two of my three children became choreographers as teenagers for dance teams, and I served as the choreographer for the Salem Boys Choir, a part time job I thoroughly enjoyed for three years. I know exactly what Grandpa and Grandma would say were they alive today about the Grateful Dead tee shirt the man is wearing in the clip, and singing groups like them. “They’re dead and I’m grateful.” I will have to concur. I just don’t consider that style of music, nor that era, as something that provides an advancement in music theory.
    It seems to me that pot and other forms of drug use put music theory on pause, to be revived sometime later when musicians decided to sober up and think about what they were doing.

    • Depending on whether or not this is the George Steiner I know of, I read “Grapes of Wrath” as a 7th grader. I was unimpressed with the Movie version.

      • Nope. George Steiner, french-born American literary critic, essayist, philosopher, novelist, and educator. He famously reported to have read “Moby Dick” as a child. Precocious would describe him if that is indeed what he chose to read as a “child”. I was not exactly a “child” when I read “Grapes of Wrath”. I have often dreamed of remaking that novel in a way that would rectify the censorship influence of the time that destroyed any attempt to portray the central theme of the book. I believe Ted Turner owns the rights to that story.

      • garymount, the Steinbecks still own the domestic rights, Fox owns the foreign rights. Apparently Spielberg has been in negotiations to produce a remake since 2013, snatching it away from another entity who wanted to do a miniseries. I hope Spielberg advocates for a more accurate remake. The original version stayed close to the first half of the book. But the real drama is in the second half of the book. And I would imagine censors were the cause of its departure from the text at that point. The best and most censorable parts are in the latter half of the story. But without them, the guts of the cinematic story will again disappear.

  43. Showing this as representative of AGW activists is like showing skeptics as deniers and creationists. Videos like this are just not helpful/

  44. The loons on display are the rmenants and inheritors of the zombie mob that abandoned restraint and civility in the 60’s under the guise of various excuses. Their apparent happiness to burn houses down is only a small step away from doing so with their inhabitants still in them and then another very small step to ‘no lets drag the inahbitants out and cut their heads off and take selfies’ . Wow won’t that trend on Twitter!
    All we are seeing is extremism as a lifestyle choice for narcissistic nobodies just like tattoos, peircings and wardrobe choice.

  45. Well, the edited highlights of the protesters may not have been very attractive.
    But the journalist was.
    /Unfeminist

  46. I’m not sure if this was representative of the marchers as a whole. But if it was, you can see what this is really about. Nothing to do with climate. Just same old same old anti capitalism, anti-globalisation claptrap. The lack of intellectual ability is also striking. Should have made Leonardo and Ban Ki feel right at home

  47. Re the threat to burn houses down:
    I am aware of two incidents where this actually happened:
    One was the fire-bombing of the Calgary Petroleum Club.
    Another was the fire-bombing of a friend’s house who was a retired oilsands executive. In the latter case, if anyone was home they could have been killed – the heat was so intense the doorknobs melted.
    These global warming alarmists are badly misinformed AND some of them are imbalanced and dangerous.
    People like Al Gore and Jim Hansen are inciting violence when they spread their alarmist nonsense.
    There is no credible scientific basis for the alleged global warming crisis. In reality, the global warming crisis does not exist.
    Fossil fuels keep those living in northern climes from freezing and starving to death.
    It IS that simple.

  48. I laughed when I saw the advert that came up at the bottom of the post (on my computer anyway)
    “….ask your doctor, help is available”
    Yeah, some of them definitely need help!

  49. The global warming alarmist movement is beginning to remind me of the anti fox hunting effort that occurred in the UK a few years ago. A few mindless anti-capitalist, anti-class morons managed to convince the nation that we all wanted to ban hunting. Most people didn’t really have an opinion and when there were countryside marches to London in support of the status quo there were half a million marchers. However, this did not sway the general direction of the ban movement and the UK lost one of its most colorful traditions and links to the past.
    Global warming is dangerous because the same traits are present. The activist and anti-capitalist minority have managed to make it look like everyone thinks like they do. It is dangerous because on the back of all this nonsense, legislation will be passed that impoverishes us all. Unlike fox hunting, we won’t just lose some cultural links to our past. This time we may lose our identity. As the Gipper once said : “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction”.
    We must all continue this fight.

    • Knowing what happens during a fox hunt I’m not surprised it got banned. It’s a kind of barbarity that should have been consigned to history before the 20th century.
      “colourful” indeed.

      • I doubt you do “know” and very much doubt you have ever experienced it … Yes.. It’s colourful … and brutal and bloody and maybe even cruel. The fox ends up dead torn to pieces by dogs. And yet half a million people marched in London to support it. Far more than ever marched to ban it.
        And so is bull fighting in Spain … After being tormented with spears the bull ends up on its knees with gallons of blood pouring through its mouth while thousands cheer. And then it dies. Do you want to ban that to ? How anout hunting ? . Or fishing ?
        But your opinion is the whole point of this comparison. It is ideologicaly formed and not in line with the way everyone in Spain wants to live their lives. Hence the analogy to global warming activism. A minority have an opinion about how we all must live our lives, and what we may or may not do. They make it look like everyone agrees with them, propose legislation and then we all end up being banned from doing things we want to do.

  50. Please note my comment above, Steve P, September 26, 2014 at 7:14 pm
    As much fun as it may be to poke fun at these folks, I’m wondering about National Review’s selection and editing process & decisions.
    It’s not that difficult to prove a point if you can cherry pick the data, or the people. Anyone who watches TV knows that there seems to be a virtually inexhaustible reserve of people willing to act foolish in front of the camera.
    But really, who goes on camera and suggests burning down houses? Not your normal run- of- the-mill hysterical gang green zealot, I’d suggest, but rather some kind of agent provocateur.

  51. Ironic that the idiot with the green flag says “Ask Adolf Hitler”. Even assuming this were possible, it’s the alarmists and their draconian, Orwellian ‘carbon’ agenda that bears the striking resemblance to Hitler’s policies.
    the guy that wants to burn houses down should be arrested. If he was a skeptic talking about burning down the houses of politicians he would be. The fact that he wasn’t suggests Steve P is right. These mobs always have agent provocateurs and paid protestors.

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