Aussie Government Holds Firm against Climate Bullying

australia-pic-credit-flickr-pallotron[1]Eric Worrall writes:

The Australian Abbott government has, in the last few days, endured significant pressure from President Obama, and other committed greens, to join their efforts to chase the carbon dragon. I’m happy to report that, so far, Abbott seems to be sticking to his commitment to avoid enacting costly climate policies, such as the carbon tax.

The Age, a major Australian daily newspaper, reports that Australia has gone “missing” on climate change.  “Australia has jumped from the vanguard of developed nations battling climate change, and is now an international pariah on the issue. As the Marshall Islands Foreign Minister, Tony de Brum, had reason to note this week, Australia’s ”backsliding” on climate change does not make sense and ”goes against the grain of the world”.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-age-editorial/australia-goes-missing-on-climate-change-20140925-3gmdv.html

The Sydney Morning Herald, another Australian daily, has also reported that Australia is avoiding the Climate issue. “Climate change by contrast, was mentioned only in the context of being easier to fix once higher economic growth is achieved.”

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-tells-un-australia-would-lead-by-example-but-fails-to-mention-climate-change-20140926-10ma24.html

Given the Australian Abbott government’s so far firm line on the climate issue, and the disinterest of other major CO2 emitters such as China, India, Russia and Canada, and even reports that green Europe is going cold on the global warming issue http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/09/europe-bails-on-green-energy/ – the probability of a meaningful international agreement on CO2 emissions seems comfortably low.

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johnmarshall

Well done Australia keep it up. Do not let the Obama steamroller gring you down. He knows nothing.
The Marshall Island Foreign Minister blab was just trying to justify a grab of Western Wealth.

cnxtim

Your sentiment is correct but unfortunately, the little “o” like his bushbush predecessors and caravan of sycophants knows precisely what he and his foul administration is doing.
They continue to use every means at their disposal to seize the fuel assets of sovereign nations. Whether that be by warfare and misery for the people who dwell there, or sowing untruthful doubt about so called, “fossil fuels” and obscuring their real lust for energy – the most worthwhile currency on the planet.
These soulless hypocrites are in the mould of Genghis Kahn and Attila the Hun, “if you want it, collect your armies and weapons and go and steal it”

RockyRoad

Oh, please!
Did the US seize any oil from Kuwait, or Iraq, or Libya, or Afghanistan, cnxtim?
The answer is “No” if you want the truth.
Your estimation is tainted with the typical brainwashed garbage the Left has conjured up and you’ve let it overwhelm your logical faculties.
Yes, the leaders you indicate are into this Climate Change meme big time, which is an admittedly nefarious scheme, but a “War for Oil” is just as dishonest as the “War on Women”.
There is none. (Unless you consider bombing oil installations ISIS is using to generate revenue “seizing oil”.)

george e. smith

Well the USA has no need to go out and steal oil and gas from others who have it. We are literally floating on oil and gas.
But the watermelon pols, have deliberately tied up our resources, so to some extent we have to buy from others.
Clinton tied up Western USA low sulfur coals so his illegal campaign financing buddies, could reap the reward, as holders of the principal non-US source of low sulfur coal.
Actually, those western coals are not low sulfur, when compared on an energy content basis. But we know how to take the sulfur out of high sulfur coals, so we never have to mine sulfur again.
Yes the USA was involved in some skullduggery, that eventually turned the Anglo-Iranian Oil company, over to US interests, but I think you will find that all happened under Democrat Party administrations. I’m old enough to remember the assassination of Mosadegh, after the US helped him oust the Shah. I don’t think any Bushies had anything to do with that.
We don’t need to go outside the western Hemisphere for energy, even though we helped the world gain access to much of those reserves. There’s enough mud slinging around to involve any power group you want to support; including yours cnxtm.

rw

Sorry to question your dramatology, but it’s obvious that you know nothing about the history of Big Oil. Starting with the 50:50 agreement, which the Gulf States overturned in the 70s, precipitating a world-wide economic crisis.
I read a good account of this in J. B. Gray’s Arabia, the Gulf and the West. The oil companies didn’t stand a chance, since Western governments would not stand up for them (or themselves) once the Gulf States, led by Gaddafi and the Shah of Iran (yes, the Shah! our supposed puppet) started breaking the original agreements (and then later ones, almost month by month) by which they had gotten half the proceeds while doing none of the work. Eventually, that wasn’t good enough. In the end Aramco was pushed right out of Saudi Arabia (with losses in the billions, never recovered), and the oil companies became a diminished force, while OPEC essentially took over.
If the Western governments and the oil companies had actually been the “soulless hypocrites” you claim, we probably wouldn’t be facing WW IV.

Australia was “thrown into the deep end” with Gilliard. As such, they know the perils of a mindless rush to political correctness, so are much more wary of hysterical claims. I would hope that the rest of the world does not have to nearly drown in the hysteria before becoming cognizant. But it looks like that may be the path to enlightenment.

Dave

We can only hope that soon, we here in the USA will have leaders in office with the guts that the Aussies are demonstrating rather than the milksops running the show now. Very proud to call you our friends.

kenw

Just to have leaders would be refreshing……

Absolutely, our far-left leadership in DC is a total embarrassment, and political change cannot come fast enough.

Thai Rogue

Well the Age and the SMH are essentially the same paper from different cities — all out of the rabid left Fairfax stable. A plague on both their houses.

Patrick

True. Unfortunately, the do have some “swing” here in Aus. Not one poster at AGE/SMH has provided any real evidence for their claims.

Thai Rogue

If you ever want a case for the right to vote to be subject to an IQ test, just read the comments on any climate change article (or any article on Abbot or the Liberal Party for that matter) in the said papers.

CodeTech

Thai Rogue, That unfortunately applies to every newspaper on the planet. Sadly.
Comment sections in newspapers do, however, help one decide rapidly which readership one would prefer to be associated with.

Konrad

AKA. The Phage, or “Pravda on the Yarra” and The Socialist Moaning Hamas.
By any name Fauxfacts leftardulent drivel.

Thai Rogue

+ 10,000!

Graeme No.3

And with rapidly decreasing circulation.
As for the public reaction, a recent article in The Telegraph (Sydney) about the Premier of South Australia wanted to go to 50% renewables attracted a torrent of negative responses. 2 gullibles tried to object and gave up under the pressure of facts and actual outcomes. Quite why anybody would believe anything that particular Premier says, especially on a subject requiring facts, is beyond me. He’s definitely Premier-Lite.

andydaines

Absolutely brilliant performance from one of the smartest and bravest governments worldwide. The reason for the pressure of course is this represents the thin end of the inevitable wedge of enligtement, Hold firm and the rest of the world will follow. A new age is dawning 🙂

Patrick

Abbott is not smart. he’s a PUPet…but bravo to him to simply say, at the UN, for what the “climate change” industry is; nothing.

hunter

Mr. Abbott is smarter than the US President, the UK PM, and so many others. He is in the vanguard, along with Canada’s Mr. Harper, of the new wave of rational leaders not manipulated or deceived into buying into apocalyptic climate alarmism.

Thai Rogue

Abbott was the first to say that climate change is cr*p. I wish he would come out and say it again.

Andrew

Right…he’s a PUPet. We saw him compliantly doing the Skywhale’s work for him by repealing the World’s Biggest Carbon Tax. Right after the Skywhale got al-gore to launch his carbon pricing policy. Yep, Skywhale played like a fiddle in getting him to implement diametrically opposite policies to his own.

John M

Abbott is a Rhodes scholar. He’s no dummy !

RockyRoad

IQ isn’t necessarily a harbinger of honesty. And it certainly isn’t a substitute.
Consider the president of the US–supposedly the “smartest man in the room”.
Yet what has he done that’s smart? His domestic and foreign policies are in shambles and he lies all the time (the assertion that he’s even the smartest man in the room is a lie–his college transcripts are sealed because the truth would destroy him).
Such a leader, regardless of what his Party says about him, is as un-American as they come.

inMAGICn

RockyRoad
If WWII had been decided by the IQ and learning of the leaders of the major combatants, Italy would have fought to a draw with Britain. Japan would have been third, with Germany and the USSR fighting who was the top loser. Biggest loser under this scenario? The USA. Roosevelt was not overly educated, he was never an intellectual, and he wrote next to nothing. But, he was a superb politician and, after his mixed (mostly negative IMO) performance in the Great Depression, he was a great wartime leader, letting the bright boys and the can-do people win the war.

rw

Abbott’s not a puppet – but your jack-in-the-box comment is all too typical.

Ozfarmer Ted.

Clive Palmer may or may not be a billionaire, depending on the state of the coal market. He had sufficient loose change to gain some seats in our parliaments by presenting some popular, fairly sound policies. His party holds a large part of the balance of power in our federal upper house.
Then one day we saw the headline: “Clive Palmer loses a billion dollars!”
Next day, Lo and behold! Al Gore is in town. And he and Clive Palmer were going to make a major announcement on the steps of the Federal parliament house at 4pm!
Prior to that, I expected that Clive Palmer would support the axing of the RET. After meeting Al, he said he would retain it.
I have an awful fear that it is Al Gore, not Clive Palmer, who is calling the shots here. Coinciding with Al’s visit to Australia, somebody reminded Clive in no uncertain terms that his personal business, including his “billionaire” status, at least in the public eye, may be fragile.

Brad Keyes

Standing up to alarmism? No wonder Australian “scientists” are scared witless. When the government turns against them they’ve lost their only friend.

hunter

Since the rent seeking “scientists” pushing climate hype still have friends in the media, it is clear they are only concerned about the loss of money.

RockyRoad

Dishonest people should always be scared. And you would have to really question the reliability of their friends.

Truly astounding how Obama can claim that CC is “USA’s Fault”, yet demand everyone ELSE do something about it. Layers and layers of fetid unicorn onion.

hunter

+1. That is the point that must be driven home to the hanger on nations hoping for a nice bit of the money Mr. Obama is committed to squandering on his re-enactment of the Emperor’s new clothes.

Throughout history, it is always the biggest sinners that call for the rest of us to clean up our acts.
The reason is simple. They want us to clean up our acts so there will be more room for them to sin even more.
They argue that by speaking out against sin, this gives them license to sin. Thus, it is OK for folks like Gore, Obama, Ki-Moon, DiCaprio to have a huge carbon footprints, because they are telling the rest of us to reduce our carbon footprint.
How is this any different than a Preacher that goes around preaching against extra-marital sex, while at the same time screwing the Congregation? Isn’t the Preacher simply trying to stop other men from screwing around, and thereby leave those females that were screwing around, now lonely for attention and thus available for the Preacher?
How is the current situation any different? Have Gore, Obama, Ki-Moon, DiCaprio reduced their carbon footprints? Are they creating less “Carbon Pollution” than the rest of us? Or are they trying to get the rest of us to cut back, so they can get an even bigger slice of the pie?

lonie

ferdberple , like your comments , but you keep telling truth and some will want to lead you out back the woodpile.

RockyRoad

Obama is doing the same thing with ISIS.
We can’t wait for his term to end and the adults in the room bring sanity to the political process.

CodeTech

Australia IS on the Vanguard of developed nations! By being the second to kick self-imposed climate change penalties to the curb they are doing EXACTLY the right thing. Bravo, Australia! And most of my online Australian friends are completely on board with Abbot in this regard. There are still a few that think it’s some kind of climate suicide. They’re slow learners, though, and tend to spend all their evenings at the pub anyway, liberating CO2 from bottles.

They were dragged, literally to the edge of the abyss. And they looked into the abyss, and said, NO, we shall not descend into that abyss alone, will none accompany us?
And the others say, no, you go first, and when you see how great it is, let us know and we’ll all follow.

Thai Rogue

I’m not a slow learner but I am liberating plenty of CO2 from my bottles right now 🙂

I hate to tell you this but they’re starting to use nitrogen instead of CO2 for beer. I think it may have been Guinness that started it. A young brewer friend of mine claims that nitrogen gives beer a nice mouth feel.
As an aside I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said that beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.

Thai Rogue

And I thought this was a great way to stave off global cooling!

Jeff in Calgary
Kelvin Vaughan

Wouldn’t it be good if they used Helium.

From our favorite source:
“Premixed bottled gas for creamy beers is usually 75% nitrogen and 25% CO2.[5] This premixed gas which only works well with creamy beers is often referred to as Guinness Gas, Beer Gas, or Aligal. Using “Beer Gas” with other beer styles can cause the last 5% to 10% of the beer in each keg to taste very flat and lifeless.”

Interesting information. I like Guinness, but it is creamy and a bit flat in comparison.

Michael Wassil

As a home brewer for 40 years, I was curious about nitrogen. I was informed it does not dissolve in beer so it creates a different effect. My only experience with it comes from canned beer using so-called ‘widgets’ that release the nitrogen just prior to drinking the beer. When you open a can the sudden reduction of pressure explodes the widget, releasing the nitrogen. It creates a big, creamy head but the rest of the beer goes flat quickly.
CO2 dissolves in the beer so the actual results are quite different. CO2 continues to ‘boil’ out of the beer for several minutes depending primarily on the temperature of the beer. The warmer it is the faster the CO2 boils out. I like drinking beer chilled to let the CO2 boil out in my mouth instead in the beer glass. Keeping the beer cold also retains volatile flavours that then explode in your mouth as the beer warms. Now THAT’S real ‘mouthfeel’ in my opinion.
I suppose if you just want to chug your beer as fast as you can, nitrogen-gassed beer is good enough. But if you want to drink more slowly and actually enjoy it, not so much.
I love CO2 and not only because it helps make great beer better!

“If it was going to be anyone, it just had to be the bloody Aussies. Well done you bunch of diggers.”
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/australia-you-beaut/
Oz is leading the way.
Pointman

Konrad

And how!
Before the election Abbott declared “global warming is crap”
And after?
Australia will not tolerate any more “socialism masquerading as environmentalism”.
While in the US you have how many more sobulent years under Obamaclese “the Messiah”? Oh the sadness 😉 *sniggers*

Gary Pearse

Hey, Harper in Canada was already there before Abbot as THE brave holdout in the west. I guess we Canuks are a little too quiet to be noticed. Unfortunately, Harper, having held the line on the economy and outperfomed 19 of the G20 (lefties voted him in too to do this job), his success in this country will be his undoing. We can hardly wait to vote in handsome but empty-headed Trudeau – of the Liberals (no chip off the old block he) who will be signing Kyotos and committments and whatever else is put in front of him for signature. The only thing that could Harper is the collapse of the CAGW scam in the rest of the West.

TimiBoy

We reject Socialism. Proud Aussie!

Patrick

No I disagree. Over 70% of Aussies want action on climate change AND support a carbon tax or and ETS. The danger here is that Abbott’s leadership maybe challenged by Turnbull, an ardent supporter of a carbon tax/ETS. Abbott is polling very low at the moment, risky (politically). I think the distraction of “terrorist” threats here may be putting all this climate change rubbish on the back burner!

hunter

I seriously doubt those polls. One thing lefty hacks are good at is fabricating poll results.

Thai Rogue

Turnbull is the favourite of the left. Are these polls conducted by the Fairfax commi press??

70%? You must be kidding. Just reverse it to 30% and you would be somewhat closer.

CodeTech

Patrick, did you leave out a “/sarc” tag?

ozspeaksup

ah..the above responses summed up mine too.
abbotts polling higher after being suckered into the uSSa isil bombing crud, but well hes not perfect but hes a damn sight better than juLiar n KRudd.
pretty hard to find and warmists in my area, rual folks dont tend to fall for it.
something about living in the real world i think 🙂

Chad

Over 70% do not. How else do you explain Australians electing a government who’s main election promise was to remove the carbon dioxide tax?

will gray

Patrick is right, I’ve said but originally Memoryvault.

Lil Fella from OZ

Yeah right. Obviously more Leftist dribble on baseless ‘facts.’ Over 70 % of Aussies, where did you get that figure from. Never heard it before!

Andrew

Do not believe Greens masquerading as Aussies. Nobody of significance wants a price on carbon. 90% of the electorate voted for no carbon price in 2010, and 90% voted for repeal of it in 2013. Turncoat has zero support – he would be lucky to get even 1 vote in the party room. Even Turncoat does not support the carbon tax although he is one of the few window-lickers who wants an ETS. Abbott is polling very well – miles in front of the opposition leader (who, it has been recently alleged, has a VERY colourful history). And the Green traitors were pushing the “distraction” line right until the moment a terrorist walked into a Melbourne police station and started stabbing.
THIS is exactly what the enemies of this country sound like.

Patrick, I wasn’t asked and I cannot think of anybody I work with, socialise with or general chat with, have ever said they want action on climate change. BS. Its global warming in another mane and that pretentious garbage doesn’t wash any more.

dudleyhorscroft

No way would the Liberal Party – either in Parliament or out – accept Turnbull as leader. And I think he knows it. Probably good at finance, but not at reading the minds of his fellow Australians. He is a self-confessed republican – not in the Yank sense but an anti-monarchist – most Liberals are monarchists. He supported Rudd’s carbon pricing policy – and was disowned by the party. IIRC there are several other strikes against him. He only became leader in a moment of chaos, and his determination to support Rudd’s policies before the Copenhagen Convention, when the rest of the party room wanted to do nothing till after Copenhagen, was the final straw. He lost by one vote, but after the subsequent election (2010) Tony Abbott was a clear winner, and has been ever since, with absolutely no opposition. Rumours of Turnbull support are usually spread by the ALP and the Greens, who would benefit from having him lead the Liberal Party.
Tony has been polling low but his support has been increasing, It was especially low after the Budget which was not severe enough to justify the talk of Budget Emergency, but 97% of the Budget matters have been passed and the Coalition is gradually working through the others.
It may well be that 70% of Australians want action on climate change – the Liberal Party has a policy on it – so-called “Direct Action”. Universally condemned by the ALP and the Greens, but a policy of finding ways to reduce the alleged “ill-effects” of excessive carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has two main advantages – various methods can be tried and tested, and if found not useful, dropped, and many of the suggestions for DA are in fact good for the environment anyway, like increasing the ‘carbon’, aka ‘humus’, content in soils, and the “Green Army” – employing otherwise unemployed to hep clean up the country.

RockyRoad

You wouldn’t happen to have a convenient link or two to support your assertion regarding your “70%”, would you, Patrick?
We’ll consider who took the poll and the actual questions used.
(I’m surprised you didn’t assert it was 97% who “want action on climate change”…LOL! And by the way, could you please define “climate change” for us–I want to know if you support leaders who want to use a natural phenomenon as an excuse to raise taxes and subjugate people to a miserable future.)

Chris

A poll was conducted by the Lowy Institute, where 1000 Australians were polled via telephone in Feb of this year. 63% of Australians say the government should be taking a leadership role on reducing carbon emissions. Only 28% say it should wait for an international consensus, and a fraction (7%) say the government should do nothing.
http://www.lowyinstitute.org/news-and-media/press-releases/australian-attitudes-heating-about-climate-change-2014-lowy-institute-poll-finds

KenB

While politicians like Tony Abbott know the alarmist meme is a heap of bull…. he has to be careful of the likes of Turnbull who is the equivalent of your Al Gore and his mates who would make immense profit from carbon trading scams and to hell with looking after anyone else than themselves and their business mates, but useful; as they are able to plug into the weepy green believers and hand wring and wail/sing with them from the Green songbook of confused environmental issues.
Right wing extreme masquerading as green environmentalists to cover their ruthless profiteering, must be hard when all these sheep skin wearing wolves gather along with left wing sheep skin wearing wolves all chasing their own disruptive goals, but then politicians like public role playing, it helps the self delusion.

Thai Rogue

Turnbull? In the words of Paul Keating: Can a soufflé rise twice?

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley

Proud of Aussie cousins.
From a Pom.

KenB

Hmmn, hit moderation with the last, sin binned?

Robert Taylor

Anthony, love your columns and this is no exception. However, ‘disinterest’ means ‘impartial’ not uninterested. I think you mean China et al are ‘uninterested’ in as opposed to ‘impartial’ on measures to curb CO2 emissions.
REPLY: The column was written by Eric Worrall of Australia – Anthony

Katherine

Actually, “apathy” / “lack of interest” / “indifference” is one of meanings of disinterest. That’s according to various different dictionaries including Merriam-Webster, American Heritage, Collins, Random House, Longman. In fact, some dictionaries list “lack of interest” as the only definition of disinterest.

Alan Robertson

You first.

Konrad

Dream on Peter. Sceptics will be saying plenty more. The general public are waking up. They are going to be very angry. They are going to want names. Sceptics know all the names. Every activist, pseudo scientist, journalist and politician of the left. Anyone who used the “D” word.
Sceptics never forgive and the Internet never forgets.

Stephen Richards

The first to buck the greenpiss’ of this world are always going to be the ones that are attacked the most. It is a blatant attempt to force back the rising tide against AGW. If they can’t stop the aussies then more and more nations will join against the greeny reds.

Stephen Richards

Patrick
September 26, 2014 at 4:22 am
Have you been dreaming ? Where did you get those figures? Please share your sources.

Patrick

Nope…of course AGE/SMH polls are…errrm…unreliable. Yes I did forget the /sarc off tag…

Eamon Butler

Sorry Patrick, but your crime of forgetting the sarc tag is unforgivable. We know where you live…
So, Sarc off with ye! 😉
Eamon.

Chuck L

IMO the Aussie Government, needs to start a full and serious investigation into the “adjustments” of their temperature records which generally turn a level or falling temperature trend to an increasing one. Until then, the jury is still out on whether they are serious about letting science and not politics be the basis for climate science

ozspeaksup

well, quite a number of us have been sending those details TO pollies.
reckon they might be getting the idea theres a reek of rotten fish at BoM csiro by now 🙂

Chuck L

Good to hear! Doubts are being cast on HadCRUT database as well
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/09/new-paper-finds-global-temperature-data.html
Love your country and hope to visit someday soon.

David Ball

Let us not forget where Gavin Schmidt is and what he is doing.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7

“… endured significant pressure from President Obama …”. If you mean been the subject of boring, empty rhetoric between tee dates, well yes I suppose. But I don’t think Australia has any more difficulty ignoring the Obama administration than does Putin in Russia. As Mark Steyn has said, under Obama America has become harmless to our enemies and dangerous to our friends. Australia would be downright foolish not to keep the option of going an independent way. What Abbott does will be influenced much more by domestic politics than any pressure Obama can exert.
It may, I repeat may just be dawning on Obama that to mount an effective response to ISIS and other terror groups, he’s going to need every real friend he can find.

Cheshirered

Far from being a ‘pariah’, Australia is leading by common-sense example. Stick to your guns Tony Abbott, as Obama will be long gone before you take your leave.

Tim

Congratulations to PM Tony Abbott.
The leader of a party that has the integrity to research and interpret the facts. And not blindly surrender Australia’s sovereignty on the say – so of a hypothetical, conjectural theory promoted by a multi-billion dollar PR/lobby budget.

Bravo Oz, I hope Canada continues our current path, personally I want some Global warming.
My Territorial Government stated, as a fact, in writing, that as CO2 concentrations rise in the atmosphere the North will warm. Now 5 years later heading into our 3rd brutal winter(by 2006 standard), these same characters are singing mighty low.
They won’t discuss their former proclamations, evade,slither, deny.This is the future, ” We were misinformed”.
When a government holds a full inquiry into this pathetic episode of mob psychosis, how government aided, abetted and protected from scrutiny, a form of social hysteria, which cost taxpayers an enormous loss of treasure and opportunity, then I will believe they are honestly looking at CAGW.
Only when criminal sentences are imposed, will this idiocy be over.

notfubar

This Yank says “Good on ya mates!”

LogosWrench

Way to go Down Under in opposition to those who have their heads Up In.

It is hard to imagine that any modern country could be bullied by the lip syncing Obama.
John

Jimbo

“Australia has jumped from the vanguard of developed nations battling climate change, and is now an international pariah on the issue…..

At least if we went into cooling the Aussies won’t look foolish. [transcribed by me – apologies for any errors]
Next time someone tells you about extreme weather and climate change show them this paper from a cooler time.

1978
The Geographical Journal
Arctic Ice, Atmospheric Circulation And World Climate
…….a very significant warming of world climate had been going on more or less throughout the first half of this century, particularly from 1920 to 1940. The reversal of this trend that followed, particularly between 1955 and 1965, and the remarkable incidence since 1960 of many kinds of extreme weather in many parts of the world, going beyond the statistical expectations based on the data of the so-called climatic ‘normal’ periods between 1900 and 1960, have created concern amongst planners in agriculture, industry and trade……
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/634646?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104222223851

Jimbo

The following was meant to go after the quote.
[transcribed by me – apologies for any errors]

peter

Will not do any good. Just like the 97% meme, they are hardwired to inform you that it was a crack-pot theory only exposed by a very few scientists and was the peril of the week for a few media outlets. I’ve tried to point out there was no internet back then to inflate the concept, but it does no good. Same people will tell you straight out that it is an out and out lie that there has been no temperature rise for the last seventeen years.

talldave2

I enjoyed the part about “China agrees to reduce emissions by 45% by 2020” which when googled quickly reveals the agreement for was for up to 45% meaning of course the actual reduction will be more like same negative 50% they’re currently on trend for.

Thanks, Eric.
Yes Abbott has a spine and stands tall. So does Australia.

Green Sand

Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie!
Oi! Oi! Oi!
Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie!
Oi! Oi! Oi!
Ozzie!
Oi!
Ozzie!
Oi!
Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie!
Oi! Oi! Oi!

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia

I am an Aussie, not a Mozzie.
‘av a good day Australia. And don’t forget the aeroguard.
Pshhhhht!

King of Cool

Tony Abbott is treading a fine line here but doing a great job in appeasing the great global warming believers – close to half the population remember and they all vote – and Abbott must win a second term to keep Australia on the road to economic recovery from the waste we were indulged in for the previous 6 years.
But two of his greatest allies are Tim Flannery and Mother Nature.
None of Tim’s outlandish predictions have materialised and Green’s leader Christine Milne keeps screeching “extreme weather, extreme weather, we are all going to die”, just about every day of the week and Mother Nature does not oblige
What I am really hoping for though is another trip down to the expanding Southern ice from Professor Chris Turney and his flock of faithful penguin counters. There is nothing like Aussie laughter and ridicule to snuff out a lost cause.

tango

Tony Abbott despite labor and the loony greens attacking him all the time over climate change he will go down in history as one of our best leaders……meanwhile Bardarbunga volcano is spewing out up to 20000 tons of gases per day.http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/bardarbunga/news/48116/Bardarbunga-volcano-update-Eruption-continues-at-record-breaking-lava-output-rate.html

tango

King of cool I am booked on the next cruise my job is to count the krill

Eamon Butler

Nice to see a leader who leads rather than follows. Here in Ireland, our Taoiseach (pronounced, tea shock) thinks ”Climate” is something you do to a mountain, but he is fully committed to handing over millions of euros to fight the myth anyway. I can guarantee it’s not because he has researched it any further than to see what everyone else is doing. This, at a time when our essential services are crying out for cash.
Eamon.

Hoplite

I suspect Kenny’s only going through the motions and the carbon tax is just handy extra revenue. Previous environment minister, Phil Hogan, was pretty much known to be a complete skeptic on the issue – much to the green/left chagrin.

Now you’ve done it Abbot. Nobama will see to it that you are hash tagged into oblivion.

Raven

Inevitably, there will be more Climate Bullying to come later in the year at the G20.

The Australian Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop, says her government won’t be making climate change a priority at the G20 summit in Brisbane later [November] this year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-20/an-g20-climate/5538618

Sunspot

One of the other good things Tony Abbott has done just after winning the election was to pack up the Tim Flannery (junket) department. That saving of tax payers money has been well received. I would like to see him work on the ABC (dogs in a manger), however they will probably cry “freedom of speech” of course.

Another Ian

Their ABC, their speech
Translation for non OZ – they advertise as “Your ABC” /s

dennisambler

John M September 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm.
“Abbott is a Rhodes scholar. He’s no dummy!”
Bill Clinton is also a Rhodes scholar, http://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/about/rhodes-scholars/rhodes-scholars-complete-list

Another Ian

dennisambler
To balance so was Kris Kristofferson, and in English literature IIRC

Andrew S

The Age lives and breathes left wing progressive rubbish. They worship obama and despise the ground tony abbott walks on. Obama can do no wrong and Tony can do no right (by definition apparently). Twenty years ago they used to be a fine newspaper. Now they are nothing more than a hollow shell printing out mindless propaganda.

dudleyhorscroft

As “The Age” Head Office used to be on Spencer Street (perhaps still is) the paper was known as the “Spencer Street Soviet”. This from many more years ago than 20.

jjs

God bless the internet. The green’s have killed millions and continue to kill millions with their policies going back to the elimination of DDT. We, the commonsense part of the world population, have a means to fight back now. Keep it up and never give up. The world need us more than they need the left.

ralfellis

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I met an Aussie climate scientist in Amsterdam the other day, moaning that Abbot had sacked 150 climate scientists. He was over here trying to get another job.. While I applaud Abbot’s stand, I hope he does not just export his problem to Europe.
And on a related topic, the UK’s UKIP party has just issued a video AGAINST wind farms. It was mailed to all members. And do remember that UKIP got 28% of the vote at the last national election in the UK.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O952eiNKaOg

“Ms Bishop said she would use the New York summit to talk up direct action’s centrepiece, a $2.55 billion emissions reduction fund to pay polluters to reduce emissions, and she expected Australia’s approach “will be respected for what it is” because there was “no one-size-fits-all way to reduce emissions”.
But the Foreign Minister said she would not lay down plans for targets beyond 2020.
“I will confirm that we are committed to a new global agreement,” Ms Bishop said.”

It appears the PM’s policy is that the money stays home. That is good, unless it is some form of corporate welfare. However, this is not so promising:

“The government will also use the New York meeting to drum up support for an Asia-Pacific rainforest summit in Sydney in November and to join a global declaration to phase down the use of hydrofluorocarbons, so-called “super greenhouse gases” used for refrigeration and air conditioning.”

Don’t get stars in your eyes. All parties are full of globalists now. (Except the UKIP and a few small parties starting out at just a few percent.)
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-rejects-un-request-to-strengthen-australian-climate-targets-20140919-10j5kk.html#ixzz3EZenK9cy