We’ve seen instances of this before – wishing disaster upon humanity so that it can be used for climate propaganda. However, this tweet from Greg Blanchette sent to the attention of Michael Mann and “get a vasectomy to save the planet” guy Eric Holthaus is particularly galling.
( From: https://twitter.com/gregvlee/status/501936826995994624 )
Predictably, neither Mann nor Holthaus have said anything in their feeds against this inanity, suggesting they agree. Reading Mann’s Twitter feed is like a trip into some sort of alternate universe, where Mann’s ego is a black hole, with its gravity pulling in all rational thought and disintegrating it at the event horizon.
What does it say about climate scientists when they agree that death and destruction are a means of elevating climate communication and their cause? To me it says they are anti-human people.
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“What does it say about climate scientists when they agree that death and destruction are a means of elevating climate communication and their cause? To me it says they are anti-human people.”
He says, “I kind of hope N. America gets its ass kicked in the hurricane season…” They certainly do hate the United States, and are working very actively for its downfall by attacking agriculture, energy, personal transportation, educational freedom, the ability of all people to engage in commercial activity – basically the middle class. That’s a clue!
The only reason I appreciate and love the US, it’s history, it’s Constitution, the Amendments, and the separation of powers, is because I escaped, gradually, ALL of the philosophies and attitudes of the Baby Boomers, and that happened through a spiritual conversion. I now know that every individual person is equally loved, eternally existent, and every person is responsible for his or her own life, motives, words and decisions – and will experience the consequences of those [1]. But the animus is definitely directed at the free world. It’s hippies!
ref: “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and to depart from evil is understanding.”
As appalling as the statement is I must admit that I too share in this unfortunate trait in human nature. I so long for a global cooling period even though I know it would mean substantial human suffering. I rationalize my desire for global cooling by concluding that there would be a net benefit via reduction in incidents of global warming alarm
syndromemadness that has such a devastating effect on humanity and the environment. Perhaps the greatest instrument for human atrocities and perpetrations of evil is the ability to rationalize; either that or bureaucracies.I’ve been bringing my family on vacation to the North Carolina coast every other year for the last decade. Always in late to mid August. The water is warm. The weather is fine. Haven’t had a hint of a hurricane yet…today it’s calm and warm and we have the beach to ourselves…the warmists can wring their hands and hate all they like. Real people are carrying on with the business of living.
What kind of person wishes disaster and destruction on his fellow man to further his ideology? Or has no problem hoping for and even plotting the demise of billions of people to “save the earth”?
“The fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), released by the American Psychiatric Association in 2013, lists both sociopathy and psychopathy under the heading of Antisocial Personality Disorders (ASPD). These disorders share many common behavioral traits which lead to the confusion between them. Key traits that sociopaths and psychopaths share include:
A disregard for laws and social mores
A disregard for the rights of others
A failure to feel remorse or guilt
A tendency to display violent behavior
Psychopaths…are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature. When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous.” http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath.” http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath
Many politicians are psychopaths. See “House of Cards”, all too true.
On the other hand, these eco socialists have done a great job in creating food riots via their bio fuels idea. Foot riots and have returned the world only recently, and the world food bank states that MOST of this starvation is due to bio fuels – the DIRECT result of greens telling us we need to save the planet.
Of course just like the fiasco in Spain, the result is people struggling on a daily basis to put food on their tables.
So if mother nature cannot provide the disasters, their policies much result creating crisis of their own. The fact that these people “wish” for disasters is rather telling of their values.
Biofuels have been one of the worst disasters pushed by the Greens.
Imagine that, burring FOOD in your car while women and children are staving to death!
The world food bank estimates fully 75% of the rise is due to these REALLY stupid GREEN’S idea of burning GOOD food in cars while women and children go hungry!
Gosh, even the price of beer in Germany gone up because of burning hops and barley normally reserved for beer.
Even prices of pasta have gone up in Italy – due to a LARGE increases in guess what?
Durham wheat for bio fuel!
You guessed it, government ethanol programs are burning wheat!
How stupid can you folks get!!!! Wheat in cars?
Biofuels behind food price hikes: leaked World Bank report
Fri Jul 4, 3:34 AM ET
Biofuels have caused world food prices to increase by 75 percent, according to the findings of an unpublished World Bank report published in The Guardian newspaper on Friday.
The daily said the report was finished in April but was not published to avoid embarrassing the US government, which has claimed plant-derived fuels have pushed up prices by only three percent.
Biofuels, which supporters claim are a “greener” alternative to using fossil fuel and cut greenhouse gas emissions, and rising food prices will be on the agenda when G8 leaders meet in Japan next week for their annual summit.
The report’s author, a senior World Bank economist, assessed that contrary to claims by US President George W. Bush, increased demand from India and China has not been the cause of rising food prices.
“Rapid income growth in developing countries has not led to large increases in global grain consumption and was not a major factor responsible for the large price increases,” the report said.
The European Union has mooted using biofuels for up to 10 percent of all transport fuels by 2020 as part of an increase in use of renewable energy.
All petrol and diesel in Britain has had to include a biofuels component of at least 2.5 percent since April this year.
“Without the increase in biofuels, global wheat and maize stocks would not have declined appreciably and price increases due to other factors would have been moderate,” the report said.
It added that the drive for biofuels has distorted food markets by diverting grain away from food for fuel, encouraging farmers to set aside land for its production, and sparked financial speculation on grains.
“The basket of food prices examined in the study rose by 140 percent between 2002 and this February,” The Guardian said.
“The report estimates that higher energy and fertilizer prices accounted for an increase of only 15 percent, while biofuels have been responsible for a 75 percent jump over that period.”
‘However, this tweet from Greg Blanchette sent to the attention of Michael Mann and “get a vasectomy to save the planet” guy Eric Holthaus is particularly …’
The foregoing line reminds me of an old joke. Now, I have no knowledge of whether Michael Mann has ever had a vasectomy, nor would I ever want to except, perhaps, to wonder whether it would be useful. But, for the sake of humor let us assume he has. And, I do know, with certainty, that not too long ago Michael Mann was in boulder strewn, volcanic, glacial, Iceland.
So, assuming Michael Mann has saved the planet by having a vasectomy, allow me to tell a revised version of that old joke. Here goes: ‘What do you call Michael Mann with a vasectomy in Iceland?’
‘Dry Sack on the rocks.’
In a rational world — and science is supposed to be rational — warmist climate scientists would be earnestly and fervently hoping they are wrong and making much of every scrap of evidence that pointed in that direction. Science may be rational, but most scientists are not.
All people, including me it goes without saying, have found themselves hoping for something bad to happen for selfish reasons, though for most I’d say this is limited to small scale happenings…e.g., “I hope that narcissistic blow hard gets his.” Anyone denying this, is either lying or out of touch with their feelings. But I see this also on a larger scale, for example a weather forecaster I know rooting for a hurricane to strike to prove his prediction right. Pretty bad, eh? On the other hand, given our evolutionary journey from the ;primordial ooze, one can hardly be surprised. To be a decent human being is to be continually at war with our animal endowments.
All that said, there are very few of us selfish enough to, if it were possible, cause a destructive event to occur. Would that forecaster I mentioned actually push a secret button if such a thing existed, to cause a hurricane? Highly doubtful.
But somehow I have no trouble picturing some of the profoundly narcissistic greenies doing just such a thing, likely under cover of certain “ends justifying the means” rationalizations. But of course they’d just be fooling themselves.
It’s no secret that left wing progressives (a subset of which are CAGW climate scientists) are trying to destroy our country, so comments like this are not surprising to me. What IS surprising is that NONE of the mainstream climate scientists attempt to correct their out-of-control brethren when they make ridiculous proclamations in the main stream media.
(Note here the subversive use of the bad weather = climate change meme).
John West says:
August 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
“As appalling as the statement is I must admit that I… long for a global cooling period even though I know it would mean substantial human suffering.”
John — a rational reason for doing so is that it could lead to epistemic humility among scientists and a healthy skepticism towards scientific authorities among the populace going forward. It would be far better than the potentially disastrous epistemic path we are now on.
Pride goes before a fall, but epistemic humility is the root of all virtue.
” John West says: August 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
As appalling as the statement is I must admit that I too share in this unfortunate trait in human nature. I so long for a global cooling period even though I know it would mean substantial human suffering. I rationalize my desire for global cooling by concluding that there would be a net benefit via reduction in incidents of global warming alarm syndrome madness that has such a devastating effect on humanity and the environment. Perhaps the greatest instrument for human atrocities and perpetrations of evil is the ability to rationalize; either that or bureaucracies.”
I can see your point but don’t hope for it, fear it. It will affect everyone including those in the wealthy countries (just not as much as the poor). It is easy to hope for something that proves your position but much harder to just follow the evidence and adjust as best you can.
While it might correct some of the funds being spent on the CAGW scam it wouldn’t mean they would suddenly start doing real science. Your last sentence is a classic. Very true and the best defense is to be aware of it in one’s own world views.
Cheers
Did not Holthaus already wish it upon the US?
Correction – He wanted it to hit the Caribbean.
What does it say about them? That they are completely nuts, if what they are truly about is wanting to save lives: “Let’s hope bad weather kills a lot of people so we can fight bad weather that kills a lot of people.” But if that’s just their ostensible justification for their true motivation of acquiring control over the economy so they can retrofit society for their idea of paradise (for many of them meaning the elimination of about 6.5 billion), then it is immensely evil hypocrisy: “Let’s hope bad weather kills a lot of people so we can get control over the world’s economy and, for the sake of the planet, kill a whole lot more.”
Just because a scientist doesn’t respond to a tweet he’s mentioned in from a three-figure-follower Twitter account doesn’t mean he agrees with it. It’s a hell of a stretch going from a Canadian poet tweeting something dumb to
“What does it say about climate scientists when they agree that death and destruction are a means of elevating climate communication and their cause? To me it says they are anti-human people.”
Unless we’re to take it as tacit approval from yourself every time someone posts something outrageous in the comments here and you fail to personally rebut it.
Once again we see the pathological confusion of weather vs. climate on display. The implication of this death wish is that the climate obsessed know down deep that there is no climate crisis except for the one they can fool people into beileving in.
Ditto. Follow the links and read the responses.
Just because a scientist doesn’t respond to a tweet he’s mentioned in from a three-figure-follower Twitter account doesn’t mean he agrees with it. It’s a bit of a stretch going from a Canadian poet tweeting something dumb to
“What does it say about climate scientists when they agree that death and destruction are a means of elevating climate communication and their cause? To me it says they are anti-human people.”
Unless we’re to take it as tacit approval from yourself every time someone posts something outrageous in the comments here and you fail to personally rebut it.
Don’t look now, but Dr. Spencer points out a model at his blog that predicts a possible hurricane landfall next week at New Orleans.
It’s Obsessive Climate Derangement.
donaldosaurus,
We know the players, and we know where they’re coming from. This isn’t a court of law, this is just commenting on the mind-set of climate alarmists and their ilk. They would rather have runaway global warming, climate catastrophe, and lots of dead people than a good, healthy climate — just so they could say they’re right.
Pretty despicable, wouldn’t you say?
donaldosaurus
August 20, 2014 at 10:38 am
says:
‘Unless we’re to take it as tacit approval from yourself every time someone posts something outrageous in the comments here and you fail to personally rebut it.’
Not at all. That is an utterly false comparison. I’m clueless as to the total number of comments received thus far at this site but they must easily exceed a million. To expect the originator of this post to personally rebut outrageous comments; which may number in the thousands; from largely anonymous commentators; is to expect the impossible. Holthaus, Mann, and Blanchette are not unknown to each other. Your argument is disingenuous.
Disgusting little twit.
Why does he hate little babies?
They got their “consensus”.
Except the climate does not agree with it.