Case Smit writes to me via email about a climate tour being organized in Australia with Dr. Patrick Moore, Greenpeace co-founder turned climate skeptic. I’m just passing it on:
Hi Anthony,
You have a huge number of followers and I hope you will be able to help this venture by letting as many people as possible know about it. The structure of the visit is such that it does not include many fund-raising events, so almost all of the costs (about $100,000) have to be covered by donations.
We feel that Patrick Moore’s background and reputation will persuade many CAGW believers to meet with him and hear his story; those sort of people would not come to a public lecture. Their exposure to Patrick’s story could well result in a swing away from CAGW allusions in the media.
Your assistance in publicising this visit and possible finding funding for it, will be greatly appreciated.
With regards,
Case Smit (Galileo Movement)
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Patrick Moore to visit Australia.
Australia is hosting a “climate information” visit by Dr. Patrick Moore (co-founder of Greenpeace) in October – November this year. Rather than lecturing to the “converted”, the principal purpose of this visit is for him to meet with opinion leaders in the media, politics and business to convey a rational environmentalist’s views on why policies instituted because of the “catastrophic climate change” scare need to be realistically addressed.
Australia was the first country to impose an economy-damaging tax on carbon dioxide emissions which the current Government has now repealed. However the Government still believes that the public wants to see “action on climate change”, so it continues with policies requiring billions of dollars to be spent to stabilise the global climate. Those opinion leaders that Patrick meets with will realise, as Patrick has done himself, that virtually all climate change is natural and that mankind’s contribution is minimal; they will then be able to convey this to the public.
Patrick’s visit will affect the future climate change policies of our government and present an example to the world. Such an example has the potential to be influential on policies adopted in other nations particularly now that our Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, has achieved global recognition as a statesman with his handling of the Malaysian Airlines disasters. With the G20 meeting in November which Mr. Abbott will host, he will have the opportunity to explain to other world leaders the uncertainties surrounding current climate policies and the desirability for the world economy, of scaling back such expenditures.
Substantial funding is required for this visit and while it is realised that funding sources for projects by environmental realists are extremely scarce, our appeal for help is going out internationally to make this most important visit a success. Would you please help this initiative, with potential world-wide benefit, by making this appeal known to your followers and by giving us an introduction to potential donors.
Case Smit
John Smeed
(joint organisers of Lord Monckton’s 2010 Australian Tour)
To contribute via EFT: -Galileo Movement Pty Limited, National Australia Bank Ltd., BSB: 084855, Acc. No. 191696855 please include “Moore Appeal” as the Payment Reference.
To contribute via PayPal – click the Paypal “donate” button on web site: http://www.galileomovement.com.au/donations.php please include “Moore Appeal” as the Payment Reference.
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Patrick’s lecture at the recent International Climate Change Conference in Las Vegas is on video. It outlines his journey from eco-warrior to defender of science, logic and the environment. He explains his scepticism of “catastrophic” global warming claims.
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Nick Stokes,
Here is Dr. Patrick Moore’s side of the history. He clearly states who the founders of the ‘Don’t Make a Wave Committee’ were and he doesn’t include himself.
So you could still argue that he was a founder? He does state that Greenpeace was always something of work in progress.
SAILING is the word to focus on in your reply. It was a boat and not an organisation.
Pamela Gray says: August 17, 2014 at 4:06 pm
“With loosely organized protest groups, it takes a year or two to “found” the damn thing.”
Patrick Moore supplies the
Certification of Incorporation, 5 October 1970.
Poor Nick: So good at straining for gnats while pushing piles of bs.
Glad to help in my small way for Dr. Moore to point out just how bad the eco-movement has become.
@ur momisugly Nick Stokes:
When you are wrong, you are wrong.
That Certification of Incorporation, dated 5 October 1070, is not for the Greenpeace Foundation.
JohnWho says: August 17, 2014 at 4:39 pm
“That Certification of Incorporation, dated 5 October 1070, is not for the Greenpeace Foundation.”
It was for the Don’t make a Wave Committee. Let me quote Moore again:
“The Greenpeace Foundation was established on May 4, 1972, and was the first registered organization to use the name Greenpeace. This was accomplished simply by changing the name of the Don’t Make a Wave Committee to Greenpeace Foundation.”
Don’t be silly Nick.
You accept that “The Greenpeace Foundation was established on May 4, 1972” and then rant that Moore was not a member of it in 1971. No one could be, since it wasn’t established until May 4, 1972.
A founder of Greenpeace does not need to be a founder of the previous organization.
But, you know that. You simply can not admit to being wrong again.
Now this is hilarious stuff!!! I can just see the “club house” in my mind’s eye. And the document for “Don’t Make A Wave” society is priceless!!!!!! But what I really want to know is the secret handshake and where do I get my decoder ring.
Boys. They can be a riot. So serious. But at least this clubhouse let girls in.
davidmhoffer says:
August 17, 2014 at 4:29 pm
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“OK, OK! I think the Moore/Greenpeace thing has been beaten to death.”
Some time-expired racehorses need more flogging than others…
“I still want to know what the $100K is for.”
Very unlikely to be for profit if we are talking a tour of the Australian continent. Try organising flights, hotels, ground transport and venue minimum booking deposits for just Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane and Canberra and you won’t have change from $100,000. He’ll need even more if you want to include advertising.
Besides, $100,000 is a bargain compared to what Al Bore charges for a single appearance and a fair investment given the contribution Moore is making to help save Science.
Uh, Pamela –
you know, perhaps they thought it was an organization that brought in young virgin women.
They just misspelled it to Green “Peace”?
Dunno.
FFFFTTTT!!! sputter HAHAHAHAHA spewwww HAHAHAHAH coughghghgh GAG…………eEeEeEeEeE. Wipe…dry.
NIck, give it up. There is too much correct information available to sustain the claim that Dr Moore was not a founder of the organisation called “Greenpeace’. Yes we understand that Greenpeace is embarrassed by one of their founders poking holes in their inflated movement.
Were the American founders draft dodgers? That description of the social circle is exactly what were used to seeing in Toronto. It is a mix of the Ban the Bomb people and US draft dodgers infiltrated by the endless stream of revolutionaries. It was routine in those days to advertise ‘Room for Rent – no needle freaks or mad bombers.’
When Greenpeace was formed it fell into a new category of radical organisation that promised a new form of protest by people ‘willing to die to get publicity’. My impression was it was driven far more by being anti-US-in-Vietnam than being ‘anti-pollution’ (remember pollution?) and whales which were the ‘polar bears’ of the time. (At least the whales were endangered.) After all, what’s a young, energetic draft dodger gonna do with his time? Ban the Bomb emerged as a ‘third way’ powered by hippies. The formation of Greenpeace was like its ideological military wing with (necessarily, of course) secret meetings and funding cool quasi-military planning with real ex-Viet-vets. Anyone got names?
The only thing that upset the Canadians was when draft dodgers held a violent series of protests outside the US Consulate quite near U of T in Toronto. We were willing to put up with them, but not that. Anyone remember Rochdale College? Those were days of transformation.
There was a Toronto-based hippie street mag “Guerilla” that was a voice on the same scene. Pay what you want and all that, subsidized by Unknowns.
I am impressed that Dr Moore has once again chosen to protest the outrageous, the profligate and the Lie. Good on you, Doc.
Al Gore charges $200,000 for attendance and a speech, even to member organisations of his movement in Third World countries. You can quote me.
Sorry Nick. After watching Mr.Moore’s video I have to say that your credibility is in the dumper.
The LSD movement created Silicon Valley when cool Hippies has spiritually charged trips, but it also created neo-Marxist rebellion among the less creative class who had rather bad trips during a war. Alas, the Valley and associated Net startup crowd have idolized the free thinking gurus of the 1960s in such an uncritical way that they include in this adoration the Orwellian psychopaths who then infiltrated academia to try to topple the system instead of improve it. Global warming alarm is the result, since they failed intellectually.
It looks like ‘Old Nick’ (Satan, i.e the bad guy) has ‘Stoked’ his last flame war.
Geez Nick… You quite often have something useful to say … But in this case you are looking quite desperate in your explanation…
Remember the famous old* Chinese saying, “He who attempts to jump through too many hoops risks disappearing up his own a***hole.”
(*… Yeah, I made it up)
Crispin in Waterloo but really in Yogyakarta says:
August 17, 2014 at 5:26 pm
The American founders weren’t draft dodgers, although some of the less prominent, younger early members might have been.
The “Stowes” (born 1915 & 1920) were plain, old-fashioned Northeastern (Brown, Yale Law & RI labor activism) Communists. The Bohlens (Jim born 1926; engineer) were ’60s-style, garden-variety, fellow-traveler, useful idiot, dropout Peacenik, Back-to-the-Landers.
Commissar Stokes to the rescue to edit history again.
Only thanks to coal fired electricity powering information storage on the web its not working. Much like the rest of Comissar Stokes methods. If these peasants wont take your information Comissar, the only thing left to do is to use force and send in the revolutionary guards.
What do you mean none of those ? Is this a joke ?
Gletkin will be required to interview you.
@sturgishooper
>The American founders weren’t draft dodgers, although some of the less prominent, younger early members might have been.
There was a lot of sympathy for the dodgers.
>The “Stowes” (born 1915 & 1920) were plain, old-fashioned Northeastern (Brown, Yale Law & RI labor activism) Communists.
Why did they go to Canada? Interesting. We called them arm-chair revolutionaries – willing to talk the talk and fund others to get their hands smudged. Greenpeace is a good example of needing such useful contributors.
>The Bohlens (Jim born 1926; engineer) were ’60s-style, garden-variety, fellow-traveler, useful idiot, dropout Peacenik, Back-to-the-Landers.
That is who Mother Earth sold things to. Much has changed now but ME is still around. Those were moon landing days. South Africa was implementing petty apartheid. On other fronts Don Johnson et al started VITA, Cecil Cook, then in the anti-poverty movement wrote the founding/funding document for the National Centre for Appropriate Technology (NCAT) in Butte and many sustainable flowers bloomed. WUSC gave Canadian-based Peace Corps-like chances for the adventurous. It is really sad how the environmental movement (which was real and effective) was hijacked by the not-so-nutters who promote CAGW. That is what happens when the original conceptualists are replaced by bean counters and wily opportunists driving a very different agenda in sheep’s clothing.
Nick Stokes, if you please, stop. You’ve failed to address the retorts to your first (and very important) argument.
Crispin in Waterloo but really in Yogyakarta says:
August 17, 2014 at 6:22 pm
The Bohlens moved to BC in the late ’60s because of their Quaker-motivated opposition to the VN war, but also because of their incipient back to the land hippiedom.
http://news.discovery.com/earth/farewell-rainbow-warrior.htm
The Stalinist “Stowes” had been on the lam from the US since 1961, but I guess NZ wasn’t Commie enough for them, so they too late in the decade decamped to Vancouver, the a Mecca for Leftist misfits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Stowe
You lucky Great White Northerners got not only our cowardly young scum but commie older scum.
Dear Nick Stokes,
Robert ‘Bob’ Hunter, who is regarded as the Father of Greenpeace also wrote a letter to the Don’t Make A Wave Committee for a birth on the Greenpeace…..a day before Moore’s letter;
I have been meaning to write this for ages…I guess you’d call it a formal application for passage on the Greenpeace. And I guess you’ve had quite a few such applications.
http://www.beattystreetpublishing.com/correspondence-jim-bowlen-to-robert-hunter/
Nick Stokes’ first comment has been shown to be wrong. Yet he’ll come back here pretending that he’s right.
Sorry, ‘birth’ should of course be berth.