What Slow Fourier Transforms can tell us.
Guest essay by Stan Robertson, Ph.D., P.E.
On May 3, 2014, an article on WUWT by Willis Eschenbach entitled, The Slow Fourier Transform (SFT) was posted. As he noted, the amplitude of the Slow Fourier Transform components are in the same units as the fitted data, intervals of arbitrary length and irregular data can be used and periodicities rather than frequencies are automatically extracted. In addition to rediscovering a very useful mathematical tool, Willis went on to show that there were apparently no variations of temperature associated with solar cycle variations for several long term temperature records. Now my normal inclination would be to say that if Willis didn’t find any there probably aren’t many to be found. But, on the other hand, as I showed in an October 10, 2013 WUWT article entitled The Sun Does It: Now Go Figure Out How!, it does not take much of a temperature variation to represent a very significant solar contribution to ocean surface temperatures and heat content.
Several researchers, including Nir Shaviv (2008), Roy Spencer (see http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/06/low-climate-sensitivity-estimated-from-the-11-year-cycle-in-total-solar-irradiance/) and Zhou & Tung (2010) have found that ocean surface temperatures oscillate with an amplitude of about 0.04 – 0.05 oC during a solar cycle. Using 150 years of sea surface temperature data, Zhou & Tung found 0.085 oC warming for each watt/m2 of increase of TSI over a solar cycle.
In my previous article, I showed that the changes of Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) over a solar cyle were too small, by at least a factor of 3.6, to cause temperature oscillations with an amplitude of 0.04 C. Since the variations of temperature considered were clearly associated with solar cycles, it seemed to me that the sun does something more to change ocean surface temperatures than just vary its TSI. But the whole idea would fall apart if there really are no significant variations of ocean temperature correlated with solar cycles. That motivated me to look in places where Willis had not and, in particular, to look at shorter and more recent temperature records that might be both more accurate and with better distribution over the ocean surfaces.
I downloaded the HADSST3 global sea surface temperature raw data (http://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst3gl ) and took a look at the data since 1954. This covers 60 years of data and about five and one half solar cycles. To get an idea of what sort of noise would be in these data, I fitted the sea surface temperatures to a cubic polynomial just to get rid of most of the systematic variations. The figure below shows a plot of the residuals for the last 60 years.
Figure 1 HADSST3GL residuals for the last 60 years
If we are looking for variations of about 0.04 C amplitude over the 5.5 solar cycles in the time period shown, then with apparently random variations of about 0.3 C amplitude in the record, the signal to noise ratio would be about 0.04 / 0.3 = 0.13. This would be a signal a long way down in the noise. So the question is, can we extract such a signal with a Slow Fourier Transform? To answer this question, I adopted Willis’ lovely SFT technique. I generated some test monthly data for a 60 year interval consisting of sine waves with a 10 year period plus monthly random noise in the range of +/-0.5 C. The slow FT results for waves with amplitude of 0.15 C, 0.1 C and 0.05 C would have signal to noise ratios of 0.3, 0.2 and 0.1, respectively. The results are shown in Figure 2.
Figure 2. Slow FT for test sine waves with 10 year period for a sixty year interval; 6 cycles.
As one might expect, the random variations would have both short period and long period apparent periodicities as shown in Figure 2. At a signal to noise ratio of 0.2 (blue line), or larger, the signal buried in the noise can be nicely extracted by the Slow FT. At a signal to noise ratio of 0.1, and none of the other curves to aid the eye, you might just have to believe that there might be a signal with a 10 year period. It is hardly bigger than the spurious noise peaks. Of course, there are much more sophisticated signal extraction processes than the Slow Fourier Transform. From comments that I have seen here on WUWT, there are some sharp readers around who could surely teach us some lessons. It might be expecting too much to see such a small signal in the noisy sea surface temperature data with an SFT method. But it is worth noting that in each of the test cases, the Slow FT peaks at 10 yr are smaller than the amplitudes that generated the test data by about ten to twenty percent with worse results at lower signal to noise ratios.
Since it is pretty clear that we will be looking for a small signal in a lot of noise, we probably ought to see where to look. A slow FT of the SIDC sunspot numbers for the years since 1954 shows a peak at 10.8 years as shown in Figure 3.
Figure 3. Slow FT for SIDC sunspot numbers 1954 – 2014
Now let’s have a look at the Slow FT for the sea surface temperature data. The average was subtracted to help suppress spurious long periods, but no smoothing was applied.
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Figure 4 Slow FT for HADSST3gl sea surface temperatures
I leave it to the readers to decide whether or not there is a solar cycle signal in the HADSST3gl sea surface temperature record. Considering that the slow FT tends to understate the actual signal amplitude at low signal to noise ratios, I think that this might be a credible detection of a solar cycle driven temperature variation at a 10.4 year period with a signal to noise ratio of at least 0.065 C/ 0.3 C = 0.22.
For the remainder of this essay, I would like to extend and recapitulate some of my previous findings. The prevailing view in climate science is that the sun has contributed very little, if anything, to the warming of the last century. Finding that ocean temperatures are affected during solar cycles to a much larger degree than can be explained by the small changes of solar irradiance that reach the sea surfaces is a huge challenge to the prevailing view, but it rests on some bedrock physics. A detailed accounting for energy exchanges, including thermal energies is as fundamental as it gets.
I was able to account for the long term secular trends of both the sea surface temperature changes AND the ocean heat content since 1965 with a linearly increasing rate of surface heating. This involved numerically solving some heat transfer equations, including the absorption of solar energy, but it provided a simple, two parameter simultaneous fit to the sea surface temperature record AND the ocean heat content record. The two parameters found were a rate of increase of surface heat input of 0.31 watt/m2 per decade and an average thermal diffusivity of the upper oceans of 1 cm2/s. A fairly good fit to both trends was obtained as shown in Figure 5.
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Figure 5. Measured and Calculated Sea Surface Temperature and Ocean Heat Content
A good fit was obtainable only for very narrow ranges of parameters. If the thermal diffusivity is taken to be too large, too much heat would be calculated for the ocean depths and surface temperatures would rise too little as the heat moves on to greater depths. If too small, the reverse occurs. If the input heating rate is too large, both rise too rapidly and if too small, both rise too little. The point of this exercise was to obtain a thermal diffusivity that could then be used to tell us how much surface temperature change could be produced by the changes of solar irradiance that occur during solar cycles. The answer is that the small variations of solar irradiance that reach the sea surfaces are far too small to produce temperature oscillations of even 0.04 C amplitude, much less the 0.065 watt/m2 amplitude suggested by Figure 4.
By the same computer program that I had used for my previous WUWT article, I have found that the amplitude of oscillating heat flux entering the ocean that would be required to produce surface temperature oscillations with the Figure 4 amplitude of 0.065 C would be 0.47 watt/m2 for thermal diffusivity of 1 cm2/s. How does this compare to the oscillating flux of solar radiation that reaches the sea surface? Let’s have a look at the solar irradiance changes over solar cycles. Figure 6 shows that TSI varies approximately sinusoidally over recent solar cycles with an amplitude of about 0.5 watt/m2 . (Thanks to Leif Svalgaard for TSI data.)
Figure 6 TSI variations for a few recent solar cyles.
As explained in my previous WUWT post, about 70% of one fourth of this amplitude, or 0.0875 watt/m2 enters the troposphere averaged over the earth area and day-night cycles. About
(160 watt/m2 /1365 watt/m^2) X 0.5 watt/m^2 = 0.0586 Watt/m2 is absorbed at the surface at wavelengths below 2 micron. About half the difference between the 0.0875 and 0.0586 watt/m2 reaches the surface at longer wavelengths and after scattering in the atmosphere. This give a solar TSI amplitude of 0.073 watt/m2 that is absorbed at the sea surface. This is about 6.4 times smaller than the 0.47 watt/m2 amplitude needed to drive surface temperature oscillations of 0.065 C. This result is in better agreement with the larger factors of 5 – 7 found by Shaviv (2008) ( see http://www.sciencebits.com/files/articles/CalorimeterFinal.pdf)
It is of some interest that my results were obtained without assuming any particular depth of an ocean mixing layer. For a thermal diffusivity of 1 cm2/s, the contribution to thermal gradients that vary with the solar cycle below the first ten meters would be much less than 0.001 C/m anyway. I saw no need to introduce a mixing zone with zero gradients and an arbitrary depth boundary.
This leaves us with a clear result that the TSI variations during solar cycles are not the direct drivers of the associated ocean temperature oscillations. Something else that varies with the solar cycles affects the amount of heat flux that penetrates the ocean surfaces. In my opinion, the most likely candidate would be cyclical variations of global cloud cover, but the mechanism that would control it is presently a research topic. Whatever the mechanism of the larger heating variations, it seems quite possible that it might be capable of producing long term secular trends under the control of the sun in addition to variations over solar cycles.
To examine this point, go back to the result shown in Figure 5. The heat flux required to account for the trends of increasing sea surface temperature and ocean heat content had to increase by 0.31 watt/m2/decade. Could this be due to greenhouse gases? CO2 is supposed to produce heating at a rate of about 3.7 watt/m2 per doubling period of its concentration. With concentration increasing at a rate of about 5% per decade, the doubling time would be about 14 decades. Since the heating effect is a logarithmic function of concentration, this would produce a linear heating at a rate of 3.7/14 = 0.26 watt/m2 per decade. This is certainly in the right ballpark to be part of the explanation of the apparent surface heating of the last few decades, however, when we recall that sulfate aerosols with negating effects would partially counter the CO2, it seems to me unlikely that CO2 is the entire explanation. Considering the similar period of rapid warming in the first half of the last century and the presently expanding and embarrassing pause of temperature increases, it seems to me that there is ample room for a significant solar contribution to the longer term warming periods. So I still think that the sun does a lot of it and I would still like to know how. Climate scientists would be well advised to spend some time trying to find out.
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kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
July 27, 2014 at 2:34 am
You need better examples of researchers who have found this tiny solar signal, who are not sharing the same flaws. I cannot now see any of those you cited as acceptable, thus your evidence that others have found as you are claiming is insufficient, and perhaps actually non-existent.
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Yup. What you say has been said repeatedly & still hasn’t sunk in. Sigh….
m2. This is a variation of ± 0.04%, FOUR-HUNDREDTHS OF A PERCENT!”m2.
No the variation in solar is more then .04%. That is the crux of the problem this assumption based on no real long lasting data that the solar activity is much more constant then what it really is.
In addition secondary effects are associated with solar variation which amplify solar effects themselves upon the climate.
During the most recent solar lull 2008-2010 TSI was off by .15%.
While the Maunder Minimum much longer and more severe then the recent short solar lull. Making it likely that TSI was off by amounts greater then .15% during the Maunder Minimum.
http://iceagenow.info/2014/07/ice-ages-triggered-solar-activity-video/
Excellent video which I subscribe to.
What has taken place in year 2005 is a complete change from active to inactive solar activity.
This change in my opinion will be more then enough to have another climatic impact just as is the case when one reviews historical climatic data.
My challenge remains- Which is show me the data which shows a prolonged solar minimum period being associated with a rising temperature trend or a prolonged maximum solar period being associated with a falling temperature trend.
I find no such data and the same result is going to happen as this decade proceeds.
Already solar activity is falling off and we are no where near the bottom of the solar cycle 24-solar cycle 25 minimum.
I think the data (especially post 2005/prior to 2005 ) supports the view that the sun can be quite variable and this variability can happen over a short period of time as is the case in the first decade of this current century.
Expect climate implications if this prolonged solar minimum keeps advancing going forward.
The problem with so many postings over this site is there is a lack of understanding of noise in the climate system, thresholds in the climate system ,lag times in the climate system and that the climate system is non linear and never in the same state.
Therefore my point (which i have made many time previously) is DO NOT EXPECT an x change in the climate from given x changes in items that control the climate. This I have preached but with little fanfare.
Why- look read below.
The initial state of the global climate.
a. how close or far away is the global climate to glacial conditions if in inter- glacial, or how close is the earth to inter- glacial conditions if in a glacial condition.
b. climate was closer to the threshold level between glacial and inter- glacial 20,000 -10,000 years ago. This is why the climate was more unstable then. Example solar variability and all items would be able to pull the climate EASIER from one regime to another when the state of the climate was closer to the inter glacial/glacial dividing line, or threshold.
The upshot being GIVEN solar variability IS NOT going to have the same given climatic impact.
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. Solar variability and the associated primary and secondary effects. Lag times, degree of magnitude change and duration of those changes must be taken into account.
Upshot being a given grand solar minimum period is not always going to have the same climatic impact.
This is why solar/climate correlations are hard to come by UNLESS the state of solar activity goes from a very active state to a very prolonged quiet state which is what has happened during year 2005.
So the nonsense that post Dalton no definitive solar /climate correlations exist just supports my notions of what I just expressed.
Meanwhile, a quiet sun is correlated with a stronger jet stream pattern as noticed in northern hemisphere summers. So we are dealing with under-specified models in global temp debates and measures. Does a stronger jet stream pattern influence oceans and is there a measure of jet stream strength and southerly influence?
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/07/new-paper-finds-high-correlation.html
” Willis Eschenbach says:
July 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Gary Pearse says:
July 27, 2014 at 11:41 am
I stand corrected (on several things!). Thanks, Willis. About 30years ago I actually used the correct 23.5 degrees swing knowledge to design a sloped, passive two-by-four and stapled polyethylene sheet to the entire south wall of my farmhouse (maximized for mid January). My kids would step out the window with a card table and play chess or cards in their shirtsleeves on a sunny crisp February day.
Gary Pearse says:
July 28, 2014 at 8:57 am
You are a gentleman for saying so.
Nice!
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I just noticed this comment by Willis Eschenbach says:
July 27, 2014 at 7:39 am
“Finally, in the last half billion years the strength of the sun (using standard physics and the knowledge of stellar evolution) is estimated to have increased by 5%. IF the sun ruled the temperature we should have seen an increase in global temperature over that time of 5%, or about 15°C (27°F). Obviously, there is no sign of this in the geological record.”
The actual composition – earth’s atmospheric pressure is not known for sure. However, it is known that during the Cretaceous, the atmosphere was quite a bit thicker. It is likely that over time, the earth loses a little bit of atmosphere each year. Over hundreds of millions of years, that adds up.
Changes in thickness of the earth’s atmosphere obviously impact its thermal characteristics. Without knowing exactly how the atmosphere changed, it is not possible to make your analogy.
The solar effect less talked about.
The heliospheric atmosphere is still evolving during this new era of low solar activity. The region we call interplanetary space, Earth’s home.
And the stats for today have some zeros. Doesn’t look like the Interplanetary Magnetic Field of the sun will be affecting Earth so much.
But what about the Interstellar Magnetic Field reconnection with the Interplanetary magnetic field?
http://www.spaceweather.com/
Solar wind
speed: 331.2 km/sec
density: 0.6 protons/cm3
explanation | more data
Updated: Today at 0056 UT
Interplanetary Mag. Field
Btotal: 2.2 nT
Bz: -0.0 nT
explanation | more data
Updated: Today at 0057 UT
Carla says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:19 pm
But what about the Interstellar Magnetic Field reconnection with the Interplanetary magnetic field?
As I have explained to you a hundred times, the solar wind is supersonic and no magnetic influence can travel upstream, so no influence is to be expected.
This is one loopy Jetstream in the N. Hemisphere.
It would appear as though the planetary cusp regions have some cooler inflowing radiation of one type or another.
700 hPa planetary boundary high 2.174 miles up.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/700hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-113.54,65.75,572
It would also appear that the extensional portion of the rotating S. Hemisphere polar vortex is pushing the warmer equator air northward.
Don’t ask me about the cloud ratio to cloudless days around these parts of Wisconsin. I’m a driver and I see clouds every day these days. Not always all day, but clouds are more plentiful. Now why would that be. ha go figure. And people are calling them Fall like clouds.
Changes in the upwind crescent of the solar gravitiational focusing function?
no no no
Gee there’s Dr. S. better go back upthread and see what part of this could be nonsense.
And you should see the lower height of the upwards daily water vapor and what it attaches too..
Leif Svalgaard says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:22 pm
Carla says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:19 pm
But what about the Interstellar Magnetic Field reconnection with the Interplanetary magnetic field?
As I have explained to you a hundred times, the solar wind is supersonic and no magnetic influence can travel upstream, so no influence is to be expected.
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Except Dr. S. the distribution of outgoing solar wind isn’t what it used to be. The distribution isn’t the same when the heliospheric bubble is squashed…
And the volume filling from CME’s is there either.
And the volume filling from CME’s “IS NOT” there either.
OK. Not really significant questions, but nevertheless, permit me to ask anyway, please:
1. But a magnetic field “travels” at the speed of the crossing magnetic/electric fields in that charged stream, not at the physical speed of the charged particles within the beam. So, why could not a magnetic effect “travel upstream” in a physical beam [of] moving particles downstream?
2. Could the particles within a physical beam ever travel “supersonic” downstream? That is, a physical effect (the sonic pressure difference we use to define sonic and supersonic) ever be supersonic? A different particle (or airplane or bullet or meteor) separately energized can and often does proceed through a physical medium (air, water, or ionized gas) faster than the speed of sound in a moving medium, but can a physical part of a beam made itself of particles ever be supersonic?
Carla says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:45 pm
Gee there’s Dr. S. better go back upthread and see what part of this could be nonsense.
Every little bit of it, Carla. The interstellar magnetic field cannot influence the interplanetary magnetic field in the inner solar system where Earth is.
But good to see you drop by Dr. S. and do appreciate your presence on these solar matters.
Had a question related to solar rotation and quiet portions in the rotation. But can’t remember it exactly right now..
RACookPE1978 says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:54 pm
1. But a magnetic field “travels” at the speed of the crossing magnetic/electric fields in that charged stream, not at the physical speed of the charged particles within the beam. So, why could not a magnetic effect “travel upstream” in a physical beam [of] moving particles downstream?
Magnetic changes move at the so-called Alfven speed. The solar wind [at Earth] moves outwards from the Sun at a speed ten times larger than the Alfven speed, so magnetic changes are just swept away ourwards.
Leif Svalgaard says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:55 pm
Carla says:
July 29, 2014 at 6:45 pm
Gee there’s Dr. S. better go back upthread and see what part of this could be nonsense.
Every little bit of it, Carla. The interstellar magnetic field cannot influence the interplanetary magnetic field in the inner solar system where Earth is.
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Well then, what about the solar gravitational function and how do the two field couple..?
Carla says:
July 29, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Well then, what about the solar gravitational function and how do the two field couple..?
Well, how about it?
Thank you.