From ‘amazing tales of the vexatious’. Climate Change Dispatch writes:
In a clear slap in the face, the Virginia Supreme Court awarded Michael E. Mann and the University of Virginia a piddling $250 in damages in the email FOIA case. Showing the triviality of the manner, the court’s order (shown here) didn’t even specify the rationale for the derisory amount.
From The Daily Reporter:
The court’s recent order only states the amount of damages that the Energy & Environmental Legal Institute must pay. It doesn’t provide details about the rationale behind the award.
The institute sued in 2011 after U.Va. refused to turn over emails requested by the nonprofit conservative group under Virginia’s Freedom of Information Act. The Supreme Court rejected the group’s attempt to obtain the emails in April, saying retired Arlington Circuit Court Judge Paul Sheridan was right when he ruled that Mann’s emails were exempt from the law because they were proprietary records dealing with scholarly research.
Of course Mann’s incredible ego won’t allow him to see this as a slap in the face, he comments in The Daily Reporter:
“The damages in my view are symbolic,” Mann told The Daily Progress (http://bit.ly/1raJi0m) “What is important is not the $250 itself but the recognition by the court of the frivolous and pernicious nature of the (institute’s) suit.”
Mann, who is now a professor and researcher at Penn State University, said he planned to donate his award to the Climate Science Defense Fund. He said the fund exists “to assist scientists being attacked this way.”
What’s Mann’s hyperinflated ego can’t seem to assimilate, are these facts:
- FOIA is a law, it was put in place specifically so that taxpayer money couldn’t be used for government business without public disclosure. It is not the same as “don’t ask, don’t tell” which is what Mann seems to think applies to his work, IMHO.
- Because it is a law, it is a right to pursue. Asking for work correspondence and work product funded on the taxpayer’s dime is fair game, no matter what the judge says, IMHO.
- If Mann had no issues with the contents of those emails, we wouldn’t see him fighting so hard to protect them. This business about him doing it “for the greater good of science” is a load of bullpuckey to give him hero status, IMHO.
- As we’ve seen in the climategate emails, and more recently in the peer review ring busted and in The PNAS ‘old boys’ club’, the process of science and peer review seems to be more political, than logical. One wonders what sort of similar examples exist that have yet to be discovered.
- Mann is the only climate scientist to launch personal lawsuits against others, there seems to be no examples of the reverse from climate skeptics, personally suing Michael Mann or his peers. The idea of the “Climate Science Legal Defense Fund”, purportedly setup specifically for Mann, seems to be more about offense, than defense.
If I were ATI, I’d send him that $250 in pennies, which is fully legal tender, but also speaks to the triviality of Mann’s complaint, and the fact that the “Climate Science Legal Defense Fund” isn’t about defense as much as it is offense.
UPDATE: From David Schnare, General Counsel, Energy & Environment Legal Institute
There is a lot of misunderstanding about the $250 “damages” assessed by the Court. Any appellant that loses their appeal in the Virginia Supreme Court has to make this payment to the opposing party. It is generally intended to pay for the costs of printing of briefs. It does not include attorney’s fees or any other costs. Mann won’t get a cent. It all goes to the University who may or may not have to transfer it to the Attorney General’s coffers since that is who represented the University and who had to pay for preparation of their briefs.
More importantly, this is not all over. The court only decided the meaning of the term “of a proprietary nature” and they took our (plaintiffs) definition verbatim. They just refused to admit that which was their way of denying us our costs and fees. (We used over $300,000 worth of our time on this case, and thousands of dollars in costs.) What the court did not do was to discuss the rest of the “research exemptions” and that will come up with the next case that is already in the pipeline. That FOIA is seeking all emails associated with John Daly, Steve McIntyre and the IPCC. As none of those were collected by or for the faculty in pursuit of a research project sponsored by UVA, they should not be subject to being withheld. We will see what slimy games the University next plays to prevent the release of those documents. We’ll keep you informed.
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Most of the time, only the court wins in a court action while everybody else loses something. Seems to fit here. And by everybody, I include everyone affected by the original fraud and every taxpayer that paid Mann for that crap, owns his university E-Mails and then had to pay for the UVA obstruction.
PS, there is no personal E-Mail when using an employer’s E-Mail. Unless you’re with the IRS.
“If I were ATI, I’d send him that $250 in pennies, which is fully legal tender,”
There has been quite a discussion going on legal tender on the Internet, with one participant arguing (unsuccessfully) that if legal tender is offered and refused that a debt is canceled. Actually, there is no law forcing anyone to accept legal tender. This doesn’t stop officials from refusing to accept the payment of fines in cents, or the refusal of the Miami post office to accept $100 notes.
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=25389
Siberian_Husky says:
“Any and all of you would fight tooth and nail if a FOI request was made for your private email correspondence.”
Excellent red herring.
No one requested Mann’s “private” e-mails from an account that he paid for with his own dollars; these are not subject to FOIA. They requested e-mails from accounts that were paid for by taxpayer dollars, which are subject to FOIA. There should be no presumption of privacy.
I worked on a government job on which our e-mails were all stored at transmittal as they were subject to FOIA. The standard instruction was: never put anything in an e-mail that you wouldn’t want to see on the front page of the New York Times. Apparently, Mikey never learned this.
Considering that this “award” was to the “Rectors and Visitors of the University of Virginia et al“, it seems to me that (not unlike his Nobel prize that wasn’t – or the uptick in his notorious hockey-stick), Mann is once again conjuring up a “victory” for himself when, in fact (as with his earlier self-declared “exonerations” pertaining to his SLAPP suit against Steyn – and/or Steyn’s countersuit) he has no such legitimate claim (except, perhaps, in the windmills of his mind!)
When I first read about this last Friday, it was … well … a second fiddle funny: Friday Funny
Par for the Mannian course, I suppose 😉
Siberian_Husky says:
July 15, 2014 at 9:21 pm
I’m all for getting academics to release their data to ensure that appropriate methodology has been used and results are robust.
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What would you suggest be done when an academic doesn’t release their data and methodology?
Ask for it nicely? That’s been tried many times with no acceptable outcome.
Ask the journal, which requires data backup, to post access to the data?That’s been tried many times with no acceptable outcome.
All that’s left is to use a FOIA request. This type of a request really should be a non-event. Most it not all universities and research groups that receive government funding(tax dollars) have people in place to process these request. If the academic has been studious with their data preparation and storage, fulfilling a FOIA request should be nothing more than forwarding the data, or link to its location. There is no, repeat NO harassment in this type of request.
Many academics seem to think that complying with FOIA laws are somehow beneath them. They think that people that file FOIA request are harassing them.
It’s a VERY sad day for scientific transparency and integrity.
This was under the heading “Weather cows”.
It may or may not apply here.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/13/weather-cows/#comment-957999
Wow, Siberian_Husky, way to jump into something you have so little knowledge about. Take some time to learn what the case was about and Mann’s behavior throughout before spouting Mann’s personal talking point that this is some poor, innocent scientist being bullied by the oil-funded meanies.
Well, certainly $250 ain’t big compensation or damages. Symbolic, yeah, Mann, don’t spend it all at once. You’ve been given a lesson, learn from it. You are being miserably ineffective, and before you build any more cases just weigh up the cost to you before jumping in.