Because warm weather isn’t deadly enough
Submitted by Eric Worrall
The Federalist has a hilarious article, which discusses Hollywood’s big problem portraying Global Warming; its hard to make a nice day look deadly.
Citing several recent films as examples, they make a really good point. I mean, can anyone think of a Hollywood global warming film which didn’t end in a snowstorm?
From the article:
A funny thing happens when Hollywood tries to portray the horrific negative consequences of global warming: they tend to end up showing an Earth that has frozen over.
I noticed this the first time in 2004′s The Day After Tomorrow, where global warming supposedly leads to a global atmospheric inversion that buries New York City under a mountain of snow. It was a striking image: a global warming movie whose poster features the hand of the Statue of Liberty poking out of the top of a glacier.
Read it here: http://thefederalist.com/2014/07/01/global-warming-the-movie-starring-freezing/
Snow is scary – it is cold and dangerous weather, which turns friendly and familiar environments into death traps. And that polar vortex thing out of “The Day After Tomorrow” – terrifying, as if the ice was a malevolent presence, reaching out to suck the last breath of life from the heroes.
But hot weather – if it’s really hot, it’s uncomfortable, but it’s hard to imagine dying, because today is perfect weather for a trip to the beach.
The antagonist in “Predator” only hunts on earth during “hot” years. Of course, that is an alien causing mayhem in the plot line, not the hot weather.
No kidding about cold versus warm!!! If it continues to warm, we Oregonians just might be able to enjoy that beach trip and flash some ungoosebumped skin while we’re there.
Ever dipped a toe in the waters off our state? The Golf Stream it is not. Ever stand in the wind along our coastline? Goosebump producing. brrrrrrrrr! Hell, Washington and Oregon might as well merge with Alaska and we’ll just be a big ol’state cuz none of our coastlines are bikini beaches.
When it’s hot people head off to the beach or light a BBQ. It’s happy time.
To make a 2C rise in global mean temps look frightening is difficult. Most of that rise would (according to CAGW) be at higher latitudes. But wait, they have changed their minds AGAIN! Is there anything carbon dioxide can’t do??
Waterworld
By extension, their research must be finding that cold is scarier. It could also be called (low) heat without humidity, but that does not sell tickets.
There are many papers and articles detailing some climate disaster from history or geology. They conclude that their writings contain a warning about the dangers of climate change but almost everyone documents a cold spell. Even the droughts and famines are regularly triggered by global cooling.
I recall the last time we had snow covered Britain a few years back. Everyone loved it especially the kids. Then after a week it got rather annoying, after two weeks it got really boring & very inconvenient using ever more fuel to heat our homes & get around in our cars because we had no snow tyres, chains, or gritted roads especially in the countryside! Even the kids got bored with it.
BTW, Duster, Waterworld is a v good point! However, if what I have read in the past is true, Greenland & Antarctica would just be vast inland seas if the ice melted, due to the weight of all that compacted ice on the bedrock below pushing down on it. Something the warmistas forget.
TinyCO2 says at July 1, 2014 at 8:24 am
But the greenhouse…
Everyone knows that things grow worse in a greenhouse.
Warming is a pleasant walk in the park. No one goes for a walk during a full blown blizzard. Not if they value their lives. So to become really alarming… warming must cause severe cold, wind and snow events. It is not a hollywood original as warmist climatologists claim such obvious contradictions frequently. GK
the horror of Waterworld was that it was so booooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnngggggg.
oh, and sea level rose by 20,000 feet. (that’s why only the Himalayas were left above water)
This is what I have been telling my friends for years: that the greatest achievement we can leave our great-grandchildren is a warmer earth. My only fear is that despite all the emissions of the last 150 years, the earth will get colder anyway. It is a genuinely scary thought. But it is why I do everything I can to increase my carbon footprint. Photosynthetic lifeforms have sucked most of the CO2 from the atmosphere and raised O2 levels to dangerous combustible levels. Something must be done.
But if the Earth reaches 2 degrees warmer than preindustrial times we will reach a tipping point with super-cereal consequences, sayeth the good book, IPCC Second thru 5th assessment reports.
Jimbo,
So they’re looking at records in the South China Sea from 3 to 5 million years ago, yet a slightly earlier WUWT post says that the Pacific changed character 2.6 million years ago because North and South America finally closed the open connection between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
It could be also, that despite (or because of?) propagandists yelling Global Warming daily for years, that the public thinks that cold is a more believable scenario.
Andrew
And then there was “The Day Before Yesterday,” AKA “Noah.”
Why does it always seem to snow in Hollywood Global Warming Films?
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It’s like their morphing of the term “global warming” into “climate change”; they’re covered no matter what happens.
But no matter what happens, the solution never changes: cure global warming with global taxing.
It will get colder, it is only a matter of when. That has been the natural state of our world, most of the time. Start practicing crawling out from under 5000 feet of ice in the northern latitudes. I wonder how long it will take for the wolves to make a big comeback even without any assistance from the Forrest Service.
The British film “The Day the Earth Caught Fire” (1961) did a great job of portraying a rapidly heating world – although that was because the Earth was knocked off-course and rapidly heading for the Sun rather than because of some namby-pamby, barely detectable natural fluctuation in temperature..
The German movie Hell tries to make hot seem scary, but if I recall it was the sun that caused the change in climate rather than man.
The Colony is another post-apocalyptic movie, in it the planet is frozen because the geoengineering to fix global warming went awry.
Speaking as a member of a tropical species, I’d welcome some global warming, but it doesn’t want to come out and play.
Pointman
Do we know CO2 level before and after ‘The Day After Tomorrow’ ? I don’t see how CO2 could drop from 390 ppm to 280 ppm (or lower but that would kill plant life) in just a few days. So that means that we have a colder world with the same ‘high’ CO2 level. This debunks completely the CO2 as a greenhouse gas story
Pamela Gray says: July 1, 2014 at 8:14 am
“Ever dipped a toe in the waters off our state?”
Yeah…last year. Next time SoCal. Crater lake is beautiful!
Haven’t ever heard of the AGWer’s motto?
Warm globally, cool locally!
Quoting Robertvd: “I don’t see how CO2 could drop from 390 ppm to 280 ppm (or lower but that would kill plant life) ”
Although plants are happiest with higher CO2, a concentration lower than 280 ppm would not kill plant life. During the last ice age atmospheric CO2 bottomed out somewhere around 180 ppm, yet failed to kill off all the plants.
The other 1961 movie that had the earth heating up was Irwin Allen’s Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, which had the Van Allen Belts catching fire and needing to be nuked to snuff out the fire. Cheers –
Frankly I’ve been looking forward to some global warming. I never did understand what all the whinging and gnashing of teeth was all about over things getting more comfortable in some places that aren’t. (yes I understand the implications of temperature upon agriculture but even so most of that will be mostly in places that are already marginal)
When you get to a certain age, winter becomes a trial in the northern climes else Florida would still be a big swamp.
2 days before the day after tońorrow
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/south-park-season-9-episode-8-two-days-before-the-day-after-tomorrow
The Movie ” Knowing” with Nicolas Cage. The movie ends with everyone dying in a huge global warming event. Although it isn’t exactly caused by man. Instead it’s a super flare from the sun.
In reality that is exactly how life will be destroyed on Earth. The Earth will be roasted by an ever brightening Sun, in another billion years or so.
So the Global Warming alarmists are in fact correct, their timing is just a little off.
Also from 1961 comes the Twilight Zone episode: The Midnight Sun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Midnight_Sun
“And now we see it again in Snowpiercer, a much-praised new film that tries to be a parable for both favorite leftist causes of the day: economic inequality and global warming.”
I saw the movie and this is a stretch. If it really “tries” to be a parable of global warming it fails. Other than providing part of the explanation for the cold it is barely discussed as least as far as I remember.
Then there is the recent movie “The Colony”. In this movie we build weather machines to temper global warming but they eventually break down and a new ice age starts – this doesn’t even make any sense!
“Tom in Denver says:
July 1, 2014 at 10:44 am
In reality that is exactly how life will be destroyed on Earth. The Earth will be roasted by an ever brightening Sun, in another billion years or so.”
The actual mechanism of this is the increased luminosity increases weathering which traps CO2 in the ground until photosynthesis is no longer possible. So in the end we die from a lack of CO2.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.2482
Actually, Hollywood would love to go to a warm spot to make a film depicting the horrors global warming. Trouble is that every time they’ve tried they end up interrupting an IPCC meeting.
Or wrecking the view from Al Gore’s mansion.
Soylent Green
Quoting Jimmy : “During the last ice age atmospheric CO2 bottomed out somewhere around 180 ppm, yet failed to kill off all the plants. ”
Are we sure CO2 was that low all over the Earth. In the tropics seawater would still get warm enough to outgas CO2. We know the tropical forest survived the 90K year cold period.
Isn’t Avatar about a warm planet where they all live in harmony ?
slp says:
July 1, 2014 at 9:36 am
“The German movie Hell tries to make hot seem scary, but if I recall it was the sun that caused the change in climate rather than man.”
Just watched the trailer. They do it by making everything very bright and overexposed. People protect themselves by wearing hoodies. Sunglasses seem to be scarse. Clouds are non-existent – wait a moment, atmosphere gets drier when sun gets more intense? Nevermind.
If you go to watch it, take shades with you. Or alternatively look at a blank piece of paper.
If you’re a prepper, stack shades; they’ll be good for barter.
Book of Eli. Didn’t see any snow in that one.
“Jim G says:
July 1, 2014 at 9:12 am
It will get colder, it is only a matter of when. That has been the natural state of our world, most of the time. ”
It would appear that would be the case for the last few millions of years, yet the scientific record, if it is one, has a hot and tropical world existing for several hundred million years – assuming the dinosaur record is reasonably accurate. So what caused the world to go from a tropical world, suitable for growing 100+ foot long lizards into a “mostly cold world” of today?
And didn’t I read where CO2 was over 2000 ppm in the past? Is that what caused the “tipping point” into a colder world – too much CO2? Something happened, that’s for sure, but what was it? Maybe the global warming ploy to reduce CO2 is working against them since it appears that as CO2 climbed, the “warming” slowed and ceased, and appears to be poised to go down. Maybe there is a CO2 tipping point for climate, but which way does it tip?
Of course there’s 2012, which has some really spectacular special effects – But that’s a hypothetical change in solar output with magically altered subatomic particles that interact with the Earth’s interior, causing heating and then the Yellowstone Caldera to blow as a precursor to “crustal displacement” across the entire world along with a pole shift too…. no snow involved – well, I take that back, they did crash land on a glacier, but that had been there and was about to be wiped out of existence by massive tidal waves.
With a hefty dose of “suspension of disbelief” it’s actually a fun movie to watch.
Well, the problem is more about the visibility of a searing hot day. I could take a picture of a 100F+ day and a pleasant 70F summer day, and they would look the same. Hot, humid conditions are not pleasant – otherwise people wouldn’t use AC.
Jimmyy says: July 1, 2014 at 11:10 am “Soylent Green”
Beat me. It amazes me that this 1973 movie is set in the CAGW narrative. The reason “soylent green is people” is that global warming has severely hampered agricultural activity. The political elite (as in real life) get what little is available while the unwashed proles get the green. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is where Hansen’s “research” originated.
The 1961 Twilight Zone episode “The Midnight Sun” had a similar therme, but with a Rod Serling twist at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0G-Ke0FG5s
Not so fast!
re: post by: Janice says: July 1, 2014 at 11:37 am
But no global warming either – The Book of Eli had nothing to do with climate – it was supposedly a nuclear apocalypse. There’ve been plenty of those over the years. The Road. A Boy and His Dog. On the Beach. The Day After. The Postman, etc., etc.
“…we will reach a tipping point with super-cereal consequences,…”
My Cheerio will be as big as a doughnut?
Because nothing frightens Warmists more than the prospect of global cooling, which would mean the death of their cherished belief system.
“Isn’t Avatar about a warm planet where they all live in harmony ?”
Ah, but they’re super-superior to humans and live in harmony because they don’t have any evil CO2-spewing SUVs.
Besides which, anyone who’s worked on a movie could tell you it’s one of the most wasteful industries on Earth, and you should laugh any time the Hollywoodistas whine about ‘The Environmment’. The only good thing is that we used to be able to reduce the budget of our indie movies by going through studio dumpsters to collect the perfectly usable–if not unused–stuff the big budgeters dumped at the end of a shoot.
If it was hot, everybody could wear really skimpy, revealing costumes. While I may seem obsessed with this theme, nothing sells a bad movie better than gratuitous sex and nudity.
Otherwise, they have to make better global warming films.
Here’s an idea for an HBO documentary: How global warming will destroy our sex lives.
The cool weather in Texas drug on so long this year most peoples gardens failed miserably, cold weather is not associated with prosperity, even in Hollywood.
It has to do with the cost/availability of CGI. When it was out of reach or simply impossible, deserts were the future (Mad Max and all that).
Someone looking for a Master’s thesis in sociology might want to consider trying to explain the explosion of apocalypticism in recent decades, as evidenced by all the above mentioned films. For my part, I always thought Walker Percy got it right in Lost In the Cosmos: man’s greatest fear is not the Apocalypse will happen, but that it won’t.
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice. – Fire and Ice by Robert Frost
Reblogged this on makeaneffort and commented:
I’ve been leaving my truck in the driveway idling for the last 13 years… and it still hasn’t got any warmer. I’m almost ready to give up.
Obviously this writer has never lived in a really hot climate. When it hits 40 degC (110 in old money) people don’t go to the beach, they hide. There are plenty of examples where people got stuck in their cars in the outback and made the mistake of trying to walk out. Some were found dead less than 400m from their car. Heat can be just as deadly, you just need lots of it.
The issue is , of course, that 2-4 degrees average warming isn’t about to turn the continental US into a desert and who sells films by making them about somewhere else.
Goldie says:
When it hits 40 degC (110 in old money) people don’t go to the beach, they hide.
One more reason to stay out of the sun.
http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/observacion/radiacion/ultravioleta?l=izana&f=anual
Robertvd, I think the point is in “The Day After Tomorrow” the air temp dropped to -150C at the surface so all of the CO2 would have frosted out because CO2 sublimates at -76C; it was the only thing they got correct.
The original source for “The Day After Tomorrow” was a Pentagon war game to determine what their role would be in a climate upset. 2°C — nothing. 4°C — nothing. 6°C — nothing. 8°C — nothing. Etc. So then the Pentagon gamers looked at a global cooling scenario and found plenty to do, and it made the Press with headlines like Pentagon Study Predicts Global Cooling.
But Hollywood does make movies with global warming. After all, everyone knows global warming creates zombies …
Goldie
Obviously this writer has never lived in a really hot climate. When it hits 40 degC (110 in old money) people don’t go to the beach, they hide. …
This writer lives on the Southern edge of the tropics, in Hervey Bay, Australia – when it hits 40c (110) we say things like “its a bit warm today…”, and have an extra beer before we cut the lawn 🙂
more soylent green!
If it was hot, everybody could wear really skimpy, revealing costumes. While I may seem obsessed with this theme, nothing sells a bad movie better than gratuitous sex and nudity. …
Its difficult to feel depressed when lots of pretty young women are running around wearing very little.
Duster
Waterworld
Yeah I should have remembered Waterworld. But after Kevin Costner brutalised “The Postman”, one of my favourite science fiction stories, I try not to think about Costner films…
There is an interesting precedent to these cooling scare movies in the science discourse itself. During the 1950s arctic sea ice was noted to have been decreasing up to the mid-century peak in warming and there was speculation about a return to an ice free arctic. In this context Ewing and Donn published a paper (1956) proposing that an ice-free Arctic could trigger…the next ices age. Thus evidence of warming helped to kick off the global cooling scare. Note this alarmist claim based on highly speculative science received a lot of attention in the press and it preceded the Nuclear Winter scare by 23 years. What is special about the nuclear winter scare is the Sagan and others promoted it to the press and on TV even before the first paper was even published.
See more here: http://enthusiasmscepticismscience.wordpress.com/chronology-of-climate-change-science/
Weekend at Bernies?
“Robertvd, I think the point is in “The Day After Tomorrow” the air temp dropped to -150C at the surface so all of the CO2 would have frosted out because CO2 sublimates at -76C; it was the only thing they got correct.”
Except that the temperature drop was caused by super cold air from the upper atmosphere rapidly pulled down to the surface, but which failed to warm as it descended in response to the requirements of the Ideal Gas Law. I think the scenario came from a book called The Coming Global Superstorm or some such rot.
“Obviously this writer has never lived in a really hot climate. When it hits 40 degC (110 in old money) people don’t go to the beach, they hide.”
Bullsh#t.
They adapt. Humans cope very well with hot weather. Oh and then you reference cases of DEHYDRATION – inadequate water, which can happen as easily in COLD weather. Ice ages saw much less rain and great water scarcity.
Come to Chennai on a 40 degree C day and see people enjoying themselves or at least coping. Are you really claiming people cannot adapt to life in the Outback or desert, just because some folk drive out and get lost with no water? Water is the key, not temperature.
Sweaty people crawling through a desert doesn’t really look as good on screen as snow.
Heat can and does kill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Chicago_heat_wave
But it is slow and not very entertaining. Heat prostration, then stroke.
Oh, and yea, why was 1995 the peak, and not in 20 years has been exceeded…
I don’t think even a 2 degree Celsius increase would make a difference with that.
In around 1985, can’t be precise, the Northern Tableland and slopes (Tamworth) suffered a really heavy snowfall. It shut down roads up to Armidale (3500 ft above sea level and also roads from Armidale to the coast that goes through the New England National park. Armidale was isolated for several days. After this, the Armidale council building inspectors had extra A frames in kit homes. Because they felt that 4 inches of snow would collapse the roofs? Well in 1996 after a bad hail storm in September, 80% of the roofs in Armidale had to be replaced either partially or completely. Non of the kit homes suffered any damage!
tz2026
Heat can and does kill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Chicago_heat_wave
But it is slow and not very entertaining. Heat prostration, then stroke. …
From the first paragraph of your link:-
The 1995 Chicago heat wave was a heat wave which led to approximately 750 heat-related deaths in Chicago over a period of five days.[1] Most of the victims of the heatwave were elderly poor residents of the inner city, who could not afford air conditioning and did not open windows or sleep outside for fear of crime. …
Its like this pretty much every day in Hervey Bay for the whole Summer (OK, its usually a little cooler, around 100 rather than 110), but people aren’t dropping like flies. The reason – if you don’t have air conditioning, when it gets really hot, you drink plenty of beer, take off a few layers of clothes, and open the window.
Compare that to say extreme cold, places like the Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia, one of the coldest inhabited places on Earth, where Russian Authorities won’t even let you visit, if you can’t demonstrate that a local will take care of you during your stay, and its pretty easy to see which extreme is more dangerous for humans. We are after all a tropical species.
2 days before the day after tomorrow
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiPUjGNTi24
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpvD4YpWaA
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_btchs_sHA
Re post by: Eric Worrall says: July 1, 2014 at 11:17 pm
I live in the desert SW of the USA. 100 here can actually be pretty decent, comfortable even if you have a little shade, 105 even – ASSUMING you are a healthy active person. After all, “it’s a dry heat” and that does make a big difference – even a few percentage points higher humidity is quite noticeable and uncomfortable at these temps. Not so much for those who are more frail or have health problems that can be exacerbated by heat. 110 or higher, however, is a completely different story, somehow. I’m sure that if no one had AC a lot more people would adapt (and a lot more would die too) – but at 110 touching anything metal or even concrete is VERY uncomfortable and you sure can’t hold onto it, dashboards and steering wheels downright painful, you sure won’t be hanging out around the pool unless you have misters set up to cool the area and a deep pool (shallow pools are far too hot to be comfortable) – and much activity at all gets pretty onerous pretty quickly. There’s a world of difference between 100 and 110+.
Saren says (July 1, 2014 at 10:53 am): [re: “Snowpiercer” movie] “Other than providing part of the explanation for the cold it is barely discussed as least as far as I remember.”
The film actually (and probably unconsciously) takes a skeptical view of so-called “global warming”. The ice age is caused by geoengineering to offset warming. The simplest explanation for the overshoot is that the predicted warming never occurred. Oops! 🙂
Rational Db8
Re post by: Eric Worrall says: July 1, 2014 at 11:17 pm
… I live in the desert SW of the USA. 100 here can actually be pretty decent, comfortable even if you have a little shade, 105 even – ASSUMING you are a healthy active person. After all, “it’s a dry heat” and that does make a big difference – even a few percentage points higher humidity is quite noticeable and uncomfortable at these temps. Not so much for those who are more frail or have health problems that can be exacerbated by heat. 110 or higher, however, is a completely different story, somehow. … There’s a world of difference between 100 and 110+.
When I wrote this post, I was living in bushland West of Brisbane (I’ve since moved).
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/17/one-benefit-of-the-australian-heat-wave/
That week it hit 110 for about a week, with high humidity (80% +). During this weather, I had to mow the lawn (it was a *big* lawn – 2 acre block, and at the time I only had a hand mower), and make several trips up and down a steep hill, about a mile to the nearest General Store – our car wasn’t working, and business was slow, so I didn’t have the money to fix the car – I had to hoof it.
It was uncomfortable, but I did it, and suffered no ill health effects. Why? Not because I’m a healthy active person. I’m not, I’m a very fat, middle age person. The reason I did it is I dressed sensibly, drank buckets of water, and, most important of all, I’d been living in these conditions for long enough that my body had adapted.
At the moment, tonight, I’m shivering cold, even though I’m wearing a sweater – in 70F. The reason is I’m not used to it, my body has adjusted to hot, tropical weather, and anything below 80F feels cold.
We’re a tropical species. People live comfortably in steaming jungles and baking savannahs, far hotter conditions than even the conditions I live in, because ultimately we’re a tropical species. Our bodies are optimised for extreme heat. In any conditions other than extreme heat, we have to wear clothes, to stay warm.
96 degrees, 80% humidity yesterday afternoon out side here in central Florida. Washed and waxed my car and I’m still alive!!
heat is manageable if youre smart, I and 5 furry hounds managed pretty well in the 44/45c heat this year we do have a fan I use for the late afternoon to move the hot air from the ceiling and out,and directed at the dogs if theyre too hot, and after theyve had a douse in water
apart from that its a matter of sitting outside under a tree during the worst of the peak from 1 to 5pm, never have had and never would bother with aircon.
a warm to hot shower also makes it seem cooler when you get out:-)
and a nice hot cuppa is always cooling.
I doubt we would do very well in icy snowy weather, house isnt set up for that, roof gutters etc wouldnt cope too well for starters.
Paul Jackson says:
July 1, 2014 at 5:06 pm
“Robertvd, I think the point is in “The Day After Tomorrow” the air temp dropped to -150C at the surface so all of the CO2 would have frosted out because CO2 sublimates at -76C; it was the only thing they got correct.”
Not at the low partial pressure we have for CO2. See the infamous WUWT freezer experiment with dry ice blocks. So, if that did occur in the film, they got that wrong as well. That’s reliable.
anengineer wrote
“..After all, everyone knows global warming creates zombies …”
I think it’s the zombies who are creating golobal warming.
“The Day the Earth Caught Fire” & “The Night of the Big Heat” are both English films from the 60’s that show an overheated planet without showing blizzards. The former film must have made a big impression on Phil Jones because it uncannily outlines the AGW scare. The only exception is that the overheating is from dual USA and USSR nuclear bomb tests blowing the Earth off its normal orbit.
Tom J,
“Actually, Hollywood would love to go to a warm spot to make a film depicting the horrors global warming. Trouble is that every time they’ve tried they end up interrupting an IPCC meeting.”
Hilarious. Worth repeating.
Stormpiercer – Honestly, when I saw the picture at the Federalist I thought it was a spoof.
People know that extended extreme cold is scarier than extended heat. If water gets hot it goes into the atmosphere where it will likely reduce the heat. If the water gets cold it turns into ice and there are no water based feedbacks to mitigate the cold.
Curiously, the population of Tatooine appeared to be significantly higher than the population of Hoth. I’m sure this can’t be right.
Eric W;
Yes, 100 is 1.4°F above body temp, and 110 is 11.4°. 11.4/1.4 = 8.14 times the difference!
Snowpiercer is based on a French comic book Le Transperceneige (1982). It could not have had the premise that an “ice age” was caused by geoengineering to prevent AGW.
That leaves the question what was the reason for the “ice age” in the book? I could not find a plot summary online. The plot summary for the movie on Wikipedia is so absurd to seem like a parody.
At the highest level among the big policy- and decision-makers who are promoting the CO2-caused warming hoax, many of them must surely know that they are peddling snake oil. Their hypocrisy is obvious, because in their personal lifestyles and in their public policy choices they demonstrate little real concern for the climate issues that they claim to be so concerned about. They jet-set around the world when they could be teleconferencing instead, and the US/NATO cabal continues to make aggressive war for oil in the Middle East. These ruling hypocrites are obviously not sincere about their CO2-caused Climate Change theory and their doomsday warnings. “Do as we say, not as we do” appears to be their unstated motto.
It seems to me that many of our leaders, at the highest levels, who profess the dogma of CO2-caused Climate Change must also know that global cooling is the more probable scenario, and that global cooling is also the more dangerous scenario. This may be why they have shifted their emphasis from global warming to global cooling; not only are they ‘hedging their bets’ about which direction the climate will go, they have also realized that cooling is the more likely scenario, and they don’t want to exposed one day with egg on their faces. Their goal is to demonize CO2 and fossil fuels in pursuit of their agenda of social engineering, and their paradoxical claim that CO2 may cause both warming and cooling suits that agenda. The ruling Oligarchy knows that they have most of the public fooled with their propaganda, which they disseminate through the government, the Mainstream Media, Academia, the public schools, and the NGOs, all of which are controlled by the Oligarchy. They have historically fooled nearly of the people nearly all of the time, and it is reasonable to expect that they can continue to fool most of the people in the future.
They have historically fooled nearly ALL of the people nearly all of the time, and it is reasonable to expect that they can continue to fool most of the people in the future.