That is a question that I’m sure is on a lot of people’s minds as they wonder if they should attend. It seems like the sort of thing warmists would do – go someplace hot, talk about how hot it is, and then hope a new record is set while there to underscore the importance of saving the planet from hotter and hotter days. It’s a PR flack’s dream.
But, expectations and reality in the climate debate are often far different, and it is that difference that makes Las Vegas a perfect place to discuss temperature, climate, and global warming, as I show below. First, let’s look at the potential for new record highs during the days of the ICCC9 conference:
Here are the records for early July during the conference, it would have to exceed 114/113 to have a new record. The normal high is 104 for the dates of July 7/8/9:
As you can see there has been a warming trend in average temperature for Las Vegas, something sure to be pounced on:
But, it turns out that most of that trend is in overnight temperatures, which are most affected by the explosive growth of Las Vegas and the resultant UHI (1):
Inconveniently, there is no upward trend in maximum temperatures, in fact it appears there has been a slight downward trend since the late 1930’s and early 1940’s:
There also seems to be no increase in record high temperatures beyond the levels first noted when record keeping began in 1937, no new maximum temperature records have exceeded the 117 degree record set on July 24th, 1942 (2):
All in all, I think Las Vegas is PERFECT place to have a climate conference, because it shows that expectations of warming and the reality of data just don’t match.
I’ll be there and I’ll be giving a final report on our SurfaceStations project and what we’ve found. Registration is here is you want to attend: http://climateconference.heartland.org/
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References:
(1) Summary Report, Urban Heat Island Effect, City of Las Vegas, Office of Sustainability, April 2010
From: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/files/UHI_Report_2010-2.pdf
(2) Source for data: NOAA/NWS Las Vegas, from
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/LasVegasClimateBook/index.php
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http://www.cmos.ca/CB/cb240103.pdf#page=1
If it wasn’t for Will Carrier and his “Apparatus for Treating Air” there would be no Las Vegas, as we know it. Maybe the warmist flock could get off their gravy train and invent another apparatus for treating air to take CO2 out of the atmosphere.
John @ur momisugly 5:31 pm
R744 is a CO2 refrigerant
John Of Cloverdale WA, Australia says:
June 24, 2014 at 5:31 pm
“Maybe the warmist flock could get off their gravy train and invent another apparatus for treating air to take CO2 out of the atmosphere.”
I read something about that apparatus, it is, I think, called “a tree”?
When you get out of the water in any of the pools at the Mandalay you will discover what “it’s a dry heat” really means. The evaporation rate will cool you instantly, sometimes more than you like at night. You all are pansies. Traveling from Yuma, AZ, to Las Vegas in summer I always enjoy the temperature drop, especially in the evenings.
Why go to a climate conference where there AREN’T oodles of wine, women and songs??!!
As expected, to ensure warming, weather stations appear to be at the airports:
Las Vegas (McCarran International Airport)
Las Vegas (Nellis Air Force Base)
SpeedOfDark says:
June 24, 2014 at 8:39 pm:
“I read something about that apparatus, it is, I think, called “a tree”?”
Hopefully God got a big healthy Government grant and massive subsidies for setting up the pilot plants.
They go there for the prostitutes. They’ve been screwin everybody else….why stop now!
Living in the tropics (OK, 2 degrees south of the tropics), the answer is obvious – because cold weather sucks 🙂
Rob says:
June 24, 2014 at 12:52 pm
> You hold a conference in Las Vegas because it is probably the cheapest place to fly to and stay at in North America.
I figured it would be easy to arrange flights to Las Vegas from the east coast, but wound up not finding any great deals or sensible times. I’ll be getting there around the start of reception and will have a fair amount of time after the last talk before the red eye home. Oh well, it will be easy to catch the bus from Boston to Concord NH, as it will be daytime on both ends.
The better deal is $80 per night. The fine print says “plus hefty] tax” and “daily $25 resort fee plus [the same hefty] tax.” I haven’t figured out what in the resort fee is particular to the resort. If they said shark food or salt water treatment plant that would be one thing, but it’s for internet access and preprinted boarding passes….
However, it is a good deal overall. I’m looking forward to this more than the last ICCC I went to in Washington.
Air conditioning, Hoover Dam/Lake Mead and a steady influx of tourists from southern California make Las Vegas possible.
Why wouldn’t they want to come to Vegas for any reason? Other than it’s really hot in the summer, I mean.
What’s the point?
Likely the price was right, some organizers wanted to see shows, and travel to Churchill or beyond is expensive. (Accomodation limited as well, have to erect tents on the tundra – and chase off the polar bears that warmists claim aren’t there.
Do you think the missus would believe me if I
Told her i was going to vegas for a sceptic conferance?
I wonder how much of the Gore effect will bleed off and reach Phoenix. We have been running between 105 and 110 and could use a little cooling and with a little rain it would be heaven.
Want to escape the heat and craziness of Las Vegas while at the conference? Take a short excursion up to the Mount Charleston Resort. Have lunch and a group Polka sing-out. Take a buggy ride. Cool your heels. I love that place. You will too.
As hot as it is in Las Vegas in July, Its still thriving. Its still draws people, and most importantly, has not been destroyed by temps that are higher than most of the rest of the US, and World.
Even if Global Warming were happening (doubtful), and even if it were due to manmade causes (questionable even if due to CO2 or UHI), Las Vegas has addapted to the Heat, and quite frankly, thrives in one of the hottest and dryest climates in the world. I think its proof that even if Global Warming were happening (again doubtful), mankind’s best solution would be to adapt, not criple its own economy to make a feeble attempt to maybe fix it.
Who knows, maybe next winter, I’ll take a vacation from the brutal winters we have been having here in Michigan, and go enjoy some warm weather.
Yeah, you go with that line and she’ll likely give you all the “sceptic” you can handle and then some.