Quote of the week – we'll say anything as long as it supports our cause

qotw_cropped“My teacher (who does not agree with this project because of the trickery) told me that your group will accept almost anything regardless of the scientific process, this was my experiment to see if he is correct.”

Greens get pranked with their own blind zealotry by some poor student in Madagascar. This destitute looking man with an anti golden rice poster is one of the pranks:

And the greens happily redistributed this image and text and many others the student created…until of course it was revealed the whole things was an experiment to see if the greens simply act as mindless parrots in social media, without once stopping to question if the outrageous claims made in the series of photos was real or not.

It is the same sort of inhumane blindness that created the horrid 10:10 video, where children were exploded in blood baths for not going along with the climate action plans.

Read about the whole prank here: http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/06/10/madagascar-student-prank-shows-march-against-monsanto-has-heartless-agenda/

h/t to Bishop Hill

 

 

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June 23, 2014 4:22 pm

Harold says:
June 23, 2014 at 8:34 am
People who will believe the IRS cock-and-bull story will believe anything.
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Ahhhh, but think of it this way.
I don’t think that anyone believes the lies that the Obama administration has told.
Both the right and the left know that they are lies.
The “leaders” of the right haven’t the testicles or the will to do anything about the lies and the left is proud of the lies being told as long as it advances their agenda.

JohnB
June 23, 2014 6:14 pm

kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
June 23, 2014 at 8:50 am
Oh sure, you people can laugh this off as a hoax. But what about the species lost to global warming? Since the current phase of warming started in 1979, the East Asian Purple Spotted Leaping Tree Toad does not exist!
Go on, check for yourself. Even Google can’t find them!
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That’s because Big Oil has a room full of computer operators who are systematically trawling the Interwebs to remove any references to such things. Do people really not know this???

Admin
June 23, 2014 7:30 pm

I guess poor people are only useful to NGOs as long as they keep their place, and tug the forelock.

Mark T
June 23, 2014 9:46 pm

Monsanto had nothing to do with Times Beach, at least, not directly. Mostly it was waaay overblown and now questionable whether anyone needed evacuation. Certainly I have never heard of any health issues attributable to the dioxin at Times Beach, nor did those I knew that had been evacuated have any issues (they were rednecks looong before any dioxin contamination, so that doesn’t count).
Mark

Aelfrith
June 23, 2014 11:08 pm

Can anyone tell me where the Genetic Literacy Project gets its money from?

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
June 24, 2014 4:13 am

Aelfrith on June 23, 2014 at 11:08 pm:
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/donate/

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ozspeaksup
June 24, 2014 4:34 am

hannuko says:
June 23, 2014 at 9:48 am
Since Monsanto only wants to save those children from vitamin-A deficiency caused blindness with no further agenda, surely when they realised people were too prejudiced to eat or allow other people eat golden rice, they instead send them shiploads of carrot seeds. You know, the root vedgetable that grows pretty much everywhere with enormous amount of the same carotein as the golden rice.
What? Actually they didn’t? Are you saying they just stood on their hands and complained about not being able to solve the problem how *they* wanted to solve it?
Truly the mark of a true humanitarian with absolutely no hidden agenda.
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agreed, there would be plenty of available options but carrots are an A1 option due to ease to grow and varied soil/climate adaptation
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as some others mention..scarcity of NON hybrid seed or in fact Many of the known vrieties
why?
monsantos been buying up hundreds of small seed producers for home vegies etc for some years
easiest way to get hold of then halt any options but theirs, of course they can find the disease n climate best n add crappy RR etc and them patent a natural lifeform as theirs..
No seed grown that we dont own!
people laughed..but its happening
Heritage seeds are THE way to go and always save n share some seed around.
many hundreds of varieties of bean, 4 at most for seed sales via commercials
ditto just about everything else ONE commercial broccoli, 3 at best cabbages..the list goes on

hannuko
June 24, 2014 5:01 am


“These are cultures where rice is a staple. In your world view, making money somehow proves evil motives? Are you just pranking yourself?”
You can’t seriously say that they’d be rather blind than eat carrots! :-O
No, I’m saying they’re fixing the wrong problem with the wrong solution and they’re doing it because they want to get something out of it. It might be simply money. It might be getting rid of non-GM -seeds, so they are closer to getting a monopoly on rice production, which means more money. It might be something else.
Why is this the wrong problem? Because if you are deficient in vitamin A, you are most likely not lacking vitamin A (or carotein), but fat. Sources of carotein are many (for example paprikas, kale, tomatoes, nori) and like carrots they are cheap. In comparison fat is relatively expensive. Vitamin A is fat-soluble, which means humans can digest it only if there is fat in their diet.
So feed them golden rice all you want, it doesn’t make the least bit of difference unless you introduce fat in their diet. And if you do, then propably you have solved the vitamin-A deficiency problem even without the golden rice.
I’d be really surprised if Monsanto didn’t know this already.

Zeke
June 24, 2014 11:07 am

The problem with environmental regulations is that the government is seizing the power to tell everyone what they can grown in thier bioregion, and what they cannot grow. These environmental regulations have as a goal locking down regions so that they are reliant on sustainable, organic practices and native species. The government controls extend not only to what can be grown, but methods used to control pests, weeds, and pathogens, and even how food is packaged. The government then picks certain companies to provide the products which they have mandated, and even dictates where they can be sold. Therefore, the monopolies and special interests are the effects of the environmental regulations, and not the cause. This state control of what companies create is known as fa8cism. It is not only heirloom seeds which are being affected but any seed which is considered non native to an area. Now we are getting somewhere and seeing the larger picture.
It is good to see that some posters here, such as oz speaks up, are concerned about the potential a monopoly being created. If this is occurring with formerly good companies, who used to be in business to please the customer, and are now solely creating products to please the government agencies, then we are dealing with an economic system already mentioned above – fa8cism. Other examples of state mandates directing what companies create include products required by the renewable energy coercions, in which customers are forced by law to purchase energy from worthless wind turbines, and companies are forced to add them to the supply. The car companies if directed using regulations and mandates will also try to sell electric cars – possibly with three wheels. If more refrigerants, lighting, and soaps are banned, newer products directed by the state will be sold by the companies, and many of these are also worthless, ineffective, more expensive, and sometimes genuinely toxic. like CFLs. Does anyone see a pattern here? Who is the customer in these cases? Remember that monopolies selling mandated products is the result of government environmental regulation, not the cause. It is pandemic across all economic sectors, not just the ornamental, vegetable, and fruit market.
So if oz speaks up supports other mandates and coercions in other cases “to protect the environment,” then the reality is that he is wining about Monsanto, but his hand is in the cookie jar in creating an economy in which the environmental activists using government are the only customer – not the seed buyer, or the car buyer, or the energy user.
This has been called “environmental capitalism,” but remember that any purchases which are involuntary are not capitalism. Ever.

Reply to  Zeke
June 25, 2014 1:12 pm

any purchases which are involuntary are not capitalism.

Excellent!

Jeff Alberts
June 24, 2014 6:43 pm

[snip – thanks but saying something is off-topic doesn’t make it OK to post it… see Tips and Notes please -mod]

Too bad we can’t keep all the Ot comments out, like the guy stuck in the vagina sculpture. Seriously, how did that pass moderation??

DirkH
June 25, 2014 1:15 pm

hannuko says:
June 24, 2014 at 5:01 am
“So feed them golden rice all you want, it doesn’t make the least bit of difference unless you introduce fat in their diet. And if you do, then propably you have solved the vitamin-A deficiency problem even without the golden rice.
I’d be really surprised if Monsanto didn’t know this already.”
Hannuko claims that Indians are too stupid to have fat in their diet. Well, Hannuko, Indians have been around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghee
Furthermore, for Hannuko GMO == Monsanto; a typical leftist reflex. Why did Hannuko not check the leftist encyclopedia wikipedia first?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice
“The scientific details of the rice were first published in Science in 2000,[1] the product of an eight-year project by Ingo Potrykus of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and Peter Beyer of the University of Freiburg.”
Freiburg is an extremely leftist-green city; Hannuko’s leftist brethren in Freiburg might be offended by Hannuko’s reflexes.

hannuko
June 26, 2014 9:20 am

@DirkH
“Hannuko claims that Indians are too stupid to have fat in their diet.”
Do you believe that those indians who can afford Ghee that are going blind, or is it those who can afford to eat only rice? Or are you saying that the indians are too stupid or stubborn to add carrots to their diets so us western born whites have to modify their rice to make their rice healthier? Doesn’t that sound a bit racist?
“Furthermore, for Hannuko GMO == Monsanto; a typical leftist reflex. Why did Hannuko not check the leftist encyclopedia wikipedia first?”
It does not matter who is pushing it. This article talks about Monsanto so I wrote Monsanto. Boo-hoo.
Instead of a just launching a poor ad hominem attack against me, can you please tell if there is something preventing those poor people of eating carrots, tomatoes or pepper? And do they have some highly advanced digestive system that enables them to utilize carotein and vitamin A in their diet without fat?
If not, then what exactly is wrong with my arguments?
And I’m a free-market right-wing libertarian, not a leftist. So if you insist on making generalizations about me, then pick the right political group.