One of the problems with so called “science writers” in the mainstream media today is that few of them have the wherewithal and training to do some basic sanity checking. Lori Montgomery of the Washington Post illustrates this lack of competence perfectly in a piece this weekend titled: In Norfolk, evidence of climate change is in the streets at high tide .
You just have to laugh at one of the pictures included as seen above. I’m not sure if the Chrysler Museum (seen in the background) is mocking posited climate change induced sea level rise or preparing for it. But rubber duckies aside, Ms. Montgomery doesn’t seem to have the skills to even investigate the ridiculous claim of over 5 ½ feet of sea level rise by 2100, much less apply a sanity check to it. In her article is this easily challenged statement:
As the city was contemplating that enormous price tag, the Virginia Institute of Marine Science (VIMS) last year delivered more bad news: If current trends hold, VIMS scientists said, by the end of this century, the sea in Norfolk would rise by 5½ feet or more.
The claim is accompanied by this graph and text, which ups the rise to frightening levels based on model projections:
The problem is particularly urgent in Norfolk and the rest of Tidewater Virginia — which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has ranked second only to New Orleans in terms of population threatened by sea-level rise — due to a fateful convergence of lousy luck. First, the seas are generally rising as the planet warms. Second, the Gulf Stream is circulating more slowly, causing more water to slosh toward the North Atlantic coast. In 2012, the U.S. Geological Survey declared a 600-mile stretch of coastline, from North Carolina’s Cape Hatteras to Boston, a “sea-level rise hotspot,” with rates increasing at three to four times the global average.
Third, the land around Norfolk is sinking, a phenomenon called “subsidence,” due in part to continuing adjustments in the earth’s crust to the melting of glaciers from the last ice age. Plus, the city is slowly sinking into the crater of a meteor that slammed into the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay 35 million years ago.
Put it all together, as VIMS scientists did when they were asked by the General Assembly to study recurrent flooding in tidewater Virginia, and models suggest tides ranging from 1½ feet to 7½ feet higher by 2100.
Let’s look at some less scary graphs, like this one that should have been included in Ms. Montgomery’s article, but wasn’t:
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8638610
The Sewell’s Point tide gauge is the closest fully operational one, as apparently NOAA closed the one nearest downtown Norfolk back in 1985:
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8638660
You’d think that with such a “crisis” looming, they’d have kept that tide gauge operational.
The most important thing to note is that unlike the steeply vertical graph in the WaPo article showing up to 8 feet of projected sea level rise, there is no acceleration visible in either of these two tide gauge graphs. They illustrate the slow, linear, subsidence that Nature has been doing for thousands of years.
So, let’s do the math to see if the data and claims match. We’ll use the worst case value from Sewell’s Point tide gauge of 4.44mm/year, which over the last century measured the actual “business as usual” history of sea level in concert with rising greenhouse gas emissions in the atmosphere. with no “mitigation” done in the last century of measurements.
Their claim is for the “business as usual” scenario: “by the end of this century, the sea in Norfolk would rise by 5½feet or more.”
- At the year 2014, there are 86 years left in this century.
- 86 years x 4.44 mm/year = 381.84 mm
- 381.84 mm = 15.03 inches (conversion here)
Gosh, 15.03 inches is quite a long ways from “5½feet or more”.
As seen in the caption for the scary WaPo graph, the entire premise of Ms. Montgomery’s article is based on projections related to greenhouse gas emissions, with those emissions set to accelerate sea level rise, yet as we see from the tide gauge graphs, even while GHG gases increased in the atmosphere in the last century, there is no visible acceleration, no curve upwards towards anything that would hint at their worst case scenario.
Ms. Montgomery also relies heavily on a single source for her article, the Virginia Institute of Marine Science (VIMS), who seem to be big on modeling, with claims that suggest the entire Ross Sea will be (not might be) ice free by 2100. With certainty like that, no wonder they are freaking out feckless WaPo reporters.
A little Google-Fu might have helped, I wonder if Ms. Montgomery has read this report from VIMS, published in 2010:
The cover is interesting, as it shows the “lumpiness” of global sea level rise.
Note that in the image above, the satellite altimetry reports that sea level rise off the coast of Chesapeake Bay is essentially zero. Note the white color and the scale in this image I have prepared from the cover image:
That zero trend for the area suggests there must be other factors as causes of Norfolk’s sea level problems.
I found this part of the report, in the conclusions section, most interesting, note that RSLR stands for “Relative Sea Level Rise”, emphasis mine:
Spatial Comparisons – RSLR rates at all ten bay stations for the 1976-2007 period underscore variability in subsidence rates assuming that the present ASL rise is uniform throughout the Chesapeake Bay area. Given the most likely ASLR rate of 1.8 mm/yr for what may be termed late 20th/early 21st century, inferred subsidence rates vary from -4.00 mm/yr at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, VA, to -1.29 mm/yr at Baltimore, MD (omitting Washington, DC, because of significant serial correlation over 1976-2007). In between these extremes, subsidence rates account for 50-60% of the measured RSLR at water level stations. These findings are in agreement with those of coastal geologists who report evidence of structural faults not only within the Chesapeake Bay Impact Crater in the lower bay but in areas further north in the midsection of the bay (R. Berquist, pers. comm.). High RSLR at Lewisetta, VA, is likely due to additional subsidence induced through local faulting.
Future Outlook – Subsidence will clearly remain a problem as it will continue to add to high RSLR rates locally and heighten the risk of flooding from storm tides in the lower Chesapeake Bay as time goes on. Low-lying areas in communities such as Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Hampton and Poquoson are comprised of a patchwork of local areas that are not only vulnerable to storm tides but are experiencing varying rates of subsidence, meaning that some areas within these communities may be facing greater risk than others from global sea level rise going forward. In addition to CORS, other technologies such as airborne LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) will be needed to perform repeated mapping of ground topography to track changes in flood elevation contours with time.
So, VIMS says subsidence accounts for 50-60% of the problem that the Washington Post reports will be acceleration due to climate change, melting of the ice caps, etc.. More importantly, they mention nothing about acceleration due to greenhouse gas emissions in that 2010 report. In fact, in the conclusions they say they can’t find any evidence of acceleration of sea level rise, and if it is there, it would be hard to detect, emphasis mine:
Thus, if an absolute sea level (ASL) rate increase of 0.10 mm/yr were to be added in the next decade, its detection as a significant change would be unlikely even if decadal variability were accounted for. An increase on the order of 0.5 mm/yr may be required for a statistical significant acceleration to be confirmed in the years ahead. Meanwhile, time-segment comparisons that account for decadal variability are very likely to witness the smaller changes leading up to it, if indeed an acceleration does develop at this scale.
The problem is that when Norfolk was founded in August 1682, they chose a location close to the sea, for trade purposes, nearly inside of an impact crater with bedrock fractures than has been historically subsiding since the initial impact 35 million years ago.
Source: http://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/2003/circ1262/
Of course they had no idea at the time, and up until the 20th century city leaders probably had no idea of the situation their city was in. Worse, as indicated by this NYT article, filled marshlands are returned to their normal state:
Like many other cities, Norfolk was built on filled-in marsh. Now that fill is settling and compacting. In addition, the city is in an area where significant natural sinking of land is occurring.
Have a look at this Google earth image where WaPo was taking photos, the Chrysler Museum of Art (seen with the rubber duck in the WaPo photo) is clearly marked. It sure looks like fill to me. Note the arrows I added. That is a man-made fill structure.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=36.85616,-76.29529&spn=0.015023,0.020964&t=h&z=16
With the satellite altimetry from the 2010 VIMS report showing essentially a zero sea level rise in the area, it seems to me that nearly all of the issue in Norfolk can be attributed to subsidence from the crater impact fractures, and subsidence from man-made landfill settling where there was originally marshland.
But surely we can discount all that and just blame “climate change” on a wholesale level and add some scary graphs to scare the bejeesus out of readers like the hapless Ms. Montgomery has done. After all, if such projections are to be believed, human greenhouse gas emissions are far more powerful than anything Nature can throw at us.
It just seems easier and more profitable to blame climate change than a poor choice of location because as we’ve seen time and again, by using those magic words, an entire banquet of Federal assistance is spread before them.






Gary Pearse says:
June 1, 2014 at 11:47 am
Gary,
Thanks a bunch for the ‘professional perspective’ and links!
Hadn’t heard of the ‘lost Missouri river’ before.
Much appreciated!
Mac
Same scare story; different reporter; same scientific rebuttal.
Please see my 2012 American Thinker article:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/virginia_is_sinking.html
Yes, but if Norfolk slipped into the Chesapeake Bay impact crater due to climate change, it would get covered by seawater completely. On the other hand, restoration of the magnificent Laurentide ice sheet to its natural splendor would save Norfolk, lowering sea level by 400 feet. Some dredging may be needed to keep the harbor accessible though.
good
Mac the Knife says:
June 1, 2014 at 11:57 am
Thanks Mac. My post shows why most older geologists are skeptics of consensus climate change. When hasn’t climate changed? Younger geologists? I’m not sure, but I’m not encouraged by the invasion and co-opting of academia by post-normal progressives. The behavior of some of the lead climate science celebrities shocks me – politically correct science in action.
Those of us in Virginia who actually believe science should inform policy, and who helped advise the climate change commission the last time around, explained exactly the points Anthony raised. Despite that, the commission recommended adaptation based on a 12 foot rise in sea level over the next 100 years.
I’ll try again with the soon to be reformulated commission, but these kinds of commissions are populated by alarmists. Fortunately, the legislature is fiscally responsible and the cities and counties have more pressing problems to deal with. Thus this is just more tempest in a tea pot noise
I think you have this subtitle wrong. Subsidence IS landfill settling. The statement “60% of the sea level rise is from subsidence, the remainder from landfill settling” doesn’t allow for a component of eustatic (absolute) sea level rise which we know has been occurring since the beginning of the current interglacial.
It might make more sense if it had said “60% of the sea level rise is from ABSOLUTE sea level rise, the remainder from landfill settling”…..? But I don’t know if that is the case.
REPLY: Well tough noogies, that’s the title, live with it – Anthony
A story on rising sea levels – and as an example they pick Norfolk?
Yet another case where they have to scare the civilians before they can justify raping their wallets…
Gary Pearse says:
June 1, 2014 at 12:15 pm
You’re welcome, Gary. It’s too nice of a day to spend in web space but I will return later to explore the virtual tour of glacial Montana at your link
http://home.onemain.com/~miscmail/fld_trip/intro.htm
Mac
Beating a dead horse, but 90% of reporters are Democrats. Obama is announcing his latest CO2 emission-reduction strategy, and reporters are duty-bound to do whatever they can to scare his subjects into accepting it.
[Snip – ridiculous defamatory comment, read the FAQs about Anthony and WUWT here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/about-wuwt/faqs/ then resubmit your comment -mod]
George Turner says:
June 1, 2014 at 10:27 am
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George…that was excellent
How much faith should we put in data….that shows huge hole in the ocean a few miles to the east
The old “city in a meteor crater” trick, that’s the second time I’ve heard this year.
LearDog says:
June 1, 2014 at 12:42 pm
I think you have this subtitle wrong. Subsidence IS landfill settling. The statement “60% of the sea level rise is from subsidence, the remainder from landfill settling” doesn’t allow for a component of eustatic (absolute) sea level rise which we know has been occurring since the beginning of the current interglacial.
LearDog, you are wrong, subsidence also occurs on existing soil structures if the bearing load increases (like building a city), it is elementary soil mechanics. Why do you think they sometimes drive piling to support a structure?
For large heavy structures that impose a large pressure on the “foundation” a significant portion of existing soil is often removed and replaced. I have seen storage tanks where 25 feet of soil is removed and replaced with other materials and settlement still occurs but much reduced than if the upgrade did not occur.
And what are Ms Montgomery’s qualifications to write about economics?
Meanwhile more madness from the Met:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27624478
The Chesapeake impact crater is 35.5 million years old and is thought to have come from a 5 km asteroid impact (there was least one other 5 km strike within 100,000 years of this time and possibly two). 5 km impacts are pretty rare and only a handful of larger impacts are known about.
But it is such a long time ago, that there really cannot be any remaining settling that needs to be taken into account. If it were even as high as 1 mm/year, that would imply settling of 35 kms over the last 35 million years if it were a straight linear rate over time. Mount Everest is only 8.8 kms high and the rate must have diminished substantially over time.
The rate must be so exceedingly small that it can be ignored.
No comments at the WaPo article? Imagine that.
TomR,Worc,Ma,USA … There are over 800 comments. You can access them from either the top of the article, or from the bottom.
andrewmharding said on June 1, 2014 at 10:03 am:
Well, those rapidly rising global temperatures are leading to accelerated melting of Arctic permafrost, so it has been said.
Once the dangerous dihydrogen monoxide enters the liquid phase, it will naturally migrate to the level of the local water table as it is squeezed from the sediments, leading to compaction. We have also been warned the contained organic matter will begin decomposing, releasing disastrous quantities of that ultra super treacherous greenhouse gas, methane. As matter that once was in a solid form is removed, sinking of the land is expected.
So yes, climate change would likely be causing subsidence where there is and was permafrost. Which would likely not be gently distributed, leading to suddenly collapsing sinkholes.
Which would be another good reason for would-be tourists-explorers-researchers searching for grizzly and/or polar bears to disappear without a trace. Sinkholes do not respond to pepper spray.
Over several years I’ve been having back and forth with a very liberal warmist friend who believes everything and anything that supports AGW and refuses to acknowledge any doubt. I was going to send him this article but decided to heck with it because his response is always the same liberal propaganda in exactly the same style as Bob Beckel or Juan Williams. Totally fact free arguments.
That pic stopped me dead. I have stood a few feet from there. About 10 years ago, my niece was renting a house right there on Mowbray Arch.
I wonder who Montgomery’s editor is, to let this trash through. The press used to speak truth to power, now, they are just stenographers for power.
It is amazing how much energy people put in to dispute global warming, climate, changes, rising, sea level, pollution causing harm, fast food, etc. but yet no stops to educate the youth of America with your obvious intelligence. I am not downing you, but stating instead of calling someone an idiot just start education the youth. Tell them oh it is a fake story that the waters are rising and a chunk of Antarctica broke off and we do not really need to worry about car pulling to conserve because be will never use up our fossil fuels to heat our houses out gas in our 10-20mpg SUV, mini van or car. Tell them it is okay to build on the shore line because the waters aren’t going to rise but a fraction of an millimeter(oh wait our youth don’t have to know what that is.). I say if you can put this out because you don’t believe in something, then start getting out more and teaching it. Don’t just tag it for google to pick it up get into the schools. Oh, but when you educate the youth show the how you came up with this and where to look for your data, but show them you had several different sources to back up each statement. encourage them to seek the answers and decide for themselves if in a few years cities cities have fell into the water. And that naysayers probably said it wouldn’t happen for several more generations.
Any, yes, I did like the evidence you provided, but you did forget one aspect. The human aspect. I found your site while researching why I am going to have to be ready to move my grandparents final resting spot because the ground has shifted down and is expected to continue. The human aspect is what you lacked in a really calling a person an idiot. So, I wrote this with that aspect and the fact several of our youth today would not have been able to read what you wrote.
@ur momisugly George Turner
Stolen verbatim and reposted here:
https://finance.yahoo.com/mbview/threadview/;_ylt=Ah7qYc2j6pK6DO6wvjSc.xLeAohG;_ylu=X3oDMTB2ZGIxYzhiBHBvcwMzMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFNc2dCb2FyZHNYSFJVbHQ-;_ylg=X3oDMTBhYWM1a2sxBGxhbmcDZW4tVVM-;_ylv=3?&bn=9b8d3bb3-99e0-315a-8bf2-45a0ac1b1ca6&tid=1401647147435-bffcaac0-fe6c-4dbe-9684-db8806ea9b5e&tls=la%2Cd%2C4%2C3
So far it has two thumbs-up. Not sure if it is sane people laughing with us or the usual climate trolls. I suspect the latter.
Tired says:
June 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Just being curious here. What level of education do you think you have received?
You have written many words above, but have communicated nothing, nor even told us what answers you are looking for. Perhaps you only want to show us you have not learned yet how to write a series of comprehensive paragraphs.
To your specific point. (Or at the only specific point that I could find in your words.)
No. You do not have to move your grandparent’s grave, unless your grandparents are buried in ene of the few counties across this land that are pumping too much ground out and thereby lower local land elevations excessively. Once the pumping stops, the subsidence will stop immediately. Been tested worldwide many hundred times. Works every time. There are NO gravesites among the thousands on the eastern shore that are within 15 inches of the high water tides.
If you have taken a science class higher than middle school, I do assume you know what a 1/2 millimeter is. I do assume yo know that a 3 inch rise in 50 years is NOT catastrophic. And, yes, many cities are going up, some others are lowering. Destroying millions of lives by artificially making energy too expensive will NOT change that 15 inches of rise that is “possible” by 2100.