It's The Evidence, Stupid!

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I hear a lot of folks give the following explanation for the vagaries of the climate, viz:

thumb its the sunIt’s the sun, stupid.

And in fact, when I first started looking at the climate I thought the very same thing. How could it not be the sun, I reasoned, since obviously that’s what heats the planet.

Unfortunately, the dang facts got in the way again …

Chief among the dang facts is that despite looking in a whole lot of places, I never could find any trace of the 11-year sunspot cycle in any climate records. And believe me, I’ve looked.

You see, I reasoned that no matter whether the mechanism making the sun-climate connection were direct variations in the brightness of the sun, or variations in magnetic fields, or variations in UV, or variations in cosmic rays, or variations in the solar wind, they all run in synchronicity with the sunspots. So no matter the mechanism, it would have a visible ~11-year heartbeat.

I’ve looked for that 11-year rhythm every place I could think of—surface temperature records, sea level records, lake level records, wheat price records, tropospheric temperature records, river flow records. Eventually, I wrote up some of these findings, and I invited readers to point out some record, any record, in which the ~ 11-year sunspot cycle could be seen.

Nothing.

However, I’m a patient man, and to this day, I continue to look for the 11-year cycle. You can’t prove a negative … but you can amass evidence. My latest foray is into the world of atmospheric pressure. I figured that the atmospheric pressure might be more sensitive to variations in something like say the solar wind than the temperature would be.

Let me start, however, by taking a look at the elusive creature at the heart of this quest, the ~11-year sunspot cycle. Here is the periodogram of that cycle, so that we know what kind of signature we’re looking for:

periodogram monthly sunspot recordsFigure 1. Periodogram, showing the strengths of the various-length cycles in the SIDC sunspot data. In order to be able to compare disparate datasets, the values of the cycles are expressed as a percentage of the total range of the underlying data.

As you’d expect, the main peak is at around 11 years. However, the sunspot cycles are not regular, so we also have smaller peaks at nearby cycle lengths. Figure 2 shows an expanded view of the central part of Figure 1, showing only the range from seven to twenty-five years:

periodogram 7 to 25 yr monthly sunspot recordsFigure 2. The same periodogram as in Figure 1, but showing only the 7 – 25 year range. 

Now, there is a temptation to see the central figure as some kind of regular amplitude-modulated signal, with side-lobes. However, that’s not what’s happening here. There is no regular signal. Instead of there being a regular cycle, the length of the sunspot cycle varies widely, from about nine to about 15 years, with most of them in the 10-12 year range. The periodogram is merely showing that variation in cycle length.

In any case, that’s what we’re looking for—some kind of strong signal, with its peak value in the range of about 10-12 years.

As I mentioned above, when I started looking at the climate, like many people I thought “It’s the sun, stupid”, but I had found no data to back that up. So what did I find in my latest search? Well, sweet Fannie Adams, as our cousins across the pond say … here are my results:

periodograms four long term atmospheric pressure recordsFigure 3. Periodograms of four long-term atmospheric pressure records from around the globe.

There are some interesting features of these records.

First, there is a very strong annual cycle. I expected annual cycles, but not ones that large. These cycles are 30% to 60% of the total range of the data. I assume they result in large part from the prevalence of low-pressure areas associated with storms in the local wintertime, combined with some effect from the variations in temperature. I also note that as expected, Tahiti, being nearest to the equator and with little in the way of either temperature variations or low-pressure storms, has the smallest one-year cycle.

Other than semi-annual and annual cycles, however, there is very little power in the other cycle lengths. Figure 4 shows the expanded version of the same data, from seven to twenty-five years. Note the change in scale.

periodogram four longterm atmos. press 7 to 25 yrsFigure 4. Periodograms of four long-term atmospheric pressure records from around the globe.

First, note that unlike the size of the annual cycle, which is half the total swing in pressures, none of these cycles have more than about 4% of the total swing of the atmospheric pressure. These are tiny cycles.

Next, generally there is more power in the ~ 9-year and the ~ 13-14 year ranges than there is in the ~ 11-year cycles.

So … once again, I end up back where I started. I still haven’t found any climate datasets that show any traces of the 11-year sunspot cycles. They may be there in the pressure data, to be sure, it is impossible to prove a negative, I can’t say they’re not there … but if so, they are hiding way, way down in the weeds.

Which of course leads to the obvious question … why no sign of the 11-year solar cycles?

I hold that this shows that the temperature of the system is relatively insensitive to changes in forcing. This, of course, is rank heresy to the current scientific climate paradigm, which holds that ceteris paribus, changes in temperature are a linear function of changes in forcing. I disagree. I say that the temperature of the planet is set by a dynamic thermoregulatory system composed of emergent phenomena that only appear when the surface gets hotter than a certain temperature threshold. These emergent phenomena maintain the temperature of the globe within narrow bounds (e.g. ± 0.3°C over the 20th Century), despite changes in volcanoes, despite changes in aerosols, despite changes in GHGs, despite changes in forcing of all kinds. The regulatory system responds to temperature, not to forcing.

And I say that because of the existence of these thermoregulatory systems, the 11-year variations in the sun’s UV and magnetism and brightness, as well as the volcanic variations and other forcing variations … well, they make little difference.

As a result, once again, I open the Quest for the Holy 11-Year Grail to others. I invite those that believe that “It’s the sun, stupid” to show us the terrestrial climate record that has any sign of being correlated with the 11-year sunspot cycles. I’ve looked. Lots of folks have looked … where is that record? I encourage you to employ whatever methods you want to use to expose the connection—cross-correlation, wavelet analysis, spectrum analysis, fourier analysis, the world is your lobster. Report back your findings, I’d like to put this question to bed.

It’s a lovely Saturday in spring, what could be finer? Gotta get outside and study me some sunshine. I wish you all many such days.

w.

For Clarity: If you disagree with someone, please quote their exact words that you disagree with. It avoids all kinds of pernicious misunderstandings, because it lets us all know exactly where you think they went off the rails.

Why The 11-year Cycle?: Because it is the biggest cycle, and we know all of the other cycles (magnetism, TSI, solar wind) move in synchronicity with the sunspots. As a result, if you want to claim that the climate is responding to say a slow, smaller 100-year cycle in the sunspot data, then by the same token it must be responding more strongly to the larger 11-cycle in the sunspot data, and so the effect should be visible there.

The Subject Of This Post: Please do not mistake this quest for the elusive 11-year cycle in climate datasets as an opportunity for you to propound your favorite theory about approximately 43-year pseudo-cycles due to the opposition of Uranus. If you can’t show me a climate dataset containing an 11-year cycle, your hypothesis is totally off-topic for this post. I encourage you to write it up and send it to Anthony, he may publish it, or to Tallbloke, he might also. I encourage everyone to get their ideas out there. Here on this thread, though, I’m looking for the 11-year cycle sunspot cycle in any terrestrial climate records.

The Common Cycles in Figures 3 and 4: Obviously, the four records in Figs. 3 & 4 have a common one-year cycle. As an indication of the sensitivity of the method that I’m using, consider the two other peaks which are common to all four of the records. These are the six-month cycle, and the 9-year cycle. It is well known that the moon raises tides in the atmosphere just as it does in the ocean. The 9-year periodicity is not uncommon in tidal datasets, and the same is true about the 6-month periodicity. I would say that we’re looking at the signature of the atmospheric tides in those cycle lengths.

Variable-Length Cycles, AKA “Pseudocycles” or “Approximate Cycles”: Some commenters in the past have asserted that my method, which I’ve nicknamed “Slow Fourier Analysis” but which actually seems to be a variant of what might be called direct spectrum analysis, is incapable of detecting variable-length cycles. They talk about a cycle say around sixty years that changes period over time.

However, the sunspot cycle is also quite variable in length … and despite that my method not only picks up the most common cycle length, it shows the strength of the sunspot cycles at the other cycle lengths as well.

A Couple of my Previous Searches for the 11-Year Sunspot Cycle:

Looking at four long-term temperature records here.

A previous look at four more long-term temperature records.

Atmospheric Pressure and Sunspot Data:

Madras

Nagasaki 

Tahiti to 1950  and Tahiti 1951 on (note different units)

Darwin to 1950  and Darwin 1951 on  (note different units)

Sunspots These are from SIDC. Note that per advice from Leif Svalgaard, in the work I did above the pre-1947 values have been increased by 20% to adjust for the change in counting methods. It does not affect this analysis, you can use either one.

For ease of downloading, I’ve also made up a CSV file containing all of the above data, called Long Term Atmospheric Pressure.csv

And for R users, I’ve saved all 5 data files in R format as “Long Pressure Datasets.tab

Code: Man, I hate this part … hang on … let me clean it up a bit … OK, I just whacked out piles of useless stuff and ran it in an empty workspace and it seemed to fly. You need two things, a file called madras pressure.R  and my Slow Fourier Transform Functions.R. Let me know what doesn’t work.

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ren
May 24, 2014 2:58 pm

Willis Eschenbach do you see the difference AP between the previous and the 24 cycle? Changes have begun up for good since 2006.
ftp://ftp.gfz-potsdam.de/pub/home/obs/kp-ap/ap_monyr.ave

DamDoc
May 24, 2014 3:03 pm

10-4 gbaikie.. just what i was thinking.. correlation witb sun and CO2 dont pan out.. this is a complex interaction that is as yet not proven in accordance with the scientific method.. its the weather, stupid!
DamDoc

May 24, 2014 3:05 pm

“I say that the temperature of the planet is set by a dynamic thermoregulatory system composed of emergent phenomena that only appear when the surface gets hotter than a certain temperature threshold.”
A bit off topic. It would seem that this works great for curbing warming (a number of remedies available) but cooling is more open. If cooling reaches a certain level and the system has done everything to retard the cooling, it can run out of tricks (I guess it still has heat release from freezing up its sleeve, but that’s my point). Once there are no clouds allowing for max heating, then any cooling can go on getting cooler. Perhaps this is why we have interglacials that last only 10% of the several million years of an Ice Age. Your theory may be the whole package.

Latitude
May 24, 2014 3:10 pm

Roy Spencer says:
May 24, 2014 at 2:45 pm
Willis, I’m always happy to see someone other than myself pi$$ off a bunch of people. 🙂
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Made my day…..thank you!

Editor
May 24, 2014 3:13 pm

w – I would look differently. As The Other Phil says, the cycle isn’t always 11 years. So in using regular cycles, you are handicapping yourself. I would give each date a solar cycle number (SCN), for example the date half-way through solar cycle 5 would be 5.5, and then look for periodicities in climate by SCN rather than by date. Even during the Maunder Minimum the solar cycles were identified, I think. Now I admit that if nothing shows up as a regular date-based cycle, it’s unlikely that much will be found this way, but nevertheless it should be a more accurate method.
There is another complicating factor, and that is that climate is a complex coupled non-linear system. That means that any factor affecting climate is unlikely to have a linear effect. Put simply, sometimes you’ll see it and sometimes you won’t. So the fact that a simple periodicity analysis doesn’t find it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
w – None of this is intended as any kind of criticism. I applaud your efforts, and if there is an effect then it is certainly possible that you may find it using your current methods. I also note carefully that you say that not finding it doesn’t mean it’s not there. I’ll add one more suggestion : Herschel(?) identified a solar cycle in crop yields. Why not first see if you can replicate his findings, using SCN. ie, look at things like temperature and rainfall over just that period in the UK. If you do find something, even if it doesn’t map over the rest of time or over other places, at least it might be a useful clue from which further progress can develop.

Roy UK
May 24, 2014 3:14 pm

So its not the sun. And it ain’t CO2. What in the world is it? C’mon Willis give us a clue…
Or is it just something that we should not worry about?

May 24, 2014 3:16 pm

I went on a hunt for the 11 year cycle a long time ago, came up empty.
I also went hunting for a 7 year cycle. There’s a passage in Laura Ingles Wilder’s book The Long Winter (Big Winter? I forget), in which the local natives come to warn the settlers that every 7th winter is harsh, and every 3rd 7th winter unusually harsh, and this was to be the 3rd 7th winter. So I went hunting for 7 and 21 year cycles with little success, though my approach was no where near as sophisticated as Willis’.

May 24, 2014 3:17 pm

The astronomer William Herschel, reading Adam Smith’s Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations in 1801, was startled to notice a quasi-periodicity of approximately 11 years in the mean annual grain prices on the London exchange. He verified an anti-correlation between the sunspot cycle and the grain prices. More sunspots, warmer weather, more grain, lower prices: fewer sunspots, colder weather, less grain, higher prices.
One should also recall that from 1645-1715, when the Sun was at its least active in the past 11,400 years, the weather was indeed exceptionally cold on both sides of the Atlantic. The correlation may have been causative. Also, from 1925-1995, when the Sun was almost at its most active in the past 11,400 years, the weather was warmer than it had been since the Middle Ages. Now that the Sun is declining from that peak (1960, according to Hathaway), temperature has stabilized, and might be falling somewhat were it not for our influence.
Furthermore, Luedecke et al., late last year, showed that Fourier analysis on the ~60-year ocean oscillation cycle and on the longer de Vries cycle was able to reproduce global temperature change over the past 250 years with great faithfulness. The Luedecke analysis predicts a considerable drop in global temperature in the coming decades, perhaps moderated somewhat by our influence in the opposite direction.
One should not expect the ~11-year cycle to have a major influence on global temperature, owing to the homoeostatic effect of the two boundaries of the atmosphere: the near-infinite heat-sink that is the ocean and the infinite heat-sink that is outer space. Temperature will only change significantly if there is a sufficiently long period of persistently higher-than-normal solar activity (as there was during most of the past century) or lower-than-normal solar activity.
The significance of the now embarrassingly long period of no-warming over the past 17 years 9 months (RSS), or 13 years 4 months (mean of all five datasets), is that the warming effect from CO2 is insufficient to overcome the cooling effect of declining solar activity (the decline compared with 1960 is the steepest and one of the deepest in the past several hundred years) combined with the negative or cooling phase of the PDO and a recent decline in the Nino/Nina ratio.

May 24, 2014 3:25 pm

Willis,
The number of sunspots reaches a maximum every ≈11 years, but successive maxima have spots with reversed magnetic polarity. Could there be a ≈22 year cycle?

edcaryl
May 24, 2014 3:26 pm

First, I agree with you that thermoregulation is, over medium terms, a decade or so, wiping out other forcing effects. We can see short term kicks, such as volcanic activity, Forbush Decreases, short term changes in the solar wind, etc. http://notrickszone.com/2014/05/22/data-suggest-that-solar-wind-impacts-global-temperature/#comment-944818
But longer term changes can’t take place because thermoregulation, especially in the tropics, just over-ride them. That’s why the 11-year cycle doesn’t show up. It’s buried in the noise of the short term kicks.
And thank you for the solar wind data!

gbaikie
May 24, 2014 3:31 pm

–Now that the Sun is declining from that peak (1960, according to Hathaway), temperature has stabilized, and might be falling somewhat were it not for our influence. —
The higher levels of CO2 could have slight effect in terms of stabilizing temperature, but I would not count on it very much though. It’s not an air bag, it’s car bumpers at best.
So I would say it could mitigate another Little Ice Age to some degree. But I do not believe it can stop glacial period from beginning [not that I believe we in danger of this].
It seems the best thing about higher CO2 levels is it helps plants grow- which is good if one is having a lot of crop failures due to colder global climate.

May 24, 2014 3:33 pm

I learned in my classes in statistics that statistical results are like a lampposts, they light up only small areas, but they are very good to lean up against.
This in my view sums up this article.
Firstly sunspot number is a bad measure of solar activity. The 11 year solar cycle and other solar cycle are not of a fixed length, bit varies which makes standard statistical analysis dubious at best.
Earth’s temperature is much more affected by variations in solar magnetic variations than by sunspot numbers and Earth’s climate system is a non-linear chaotic system which involves many time lags effects.

Latitude
May 24, 2014 3:35 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
May 24, 2014 at 3:17 pm
One should not expect the ~11-year cycle to have a major influence on global temperature, owing to the homoeostatic effect of the two boundaries of the atmosphere: the near-infinite heat-sink that is the ocean and the infinite heat-sink that is outer space. Temperature will only change significantly if there is a sufficiently long period of persistently higher-than-normal solar activity (as there was during most of the past century) or lower-than-normal solar activity.
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…thanks

Mike T
May 24, 2014 3:37 pm

One small thing. Tahiti is not “nearest the equator” of the four stations cited. Darwin is, at 12.5 degrees south, Madras (Chennai) is 13.1 N, Tahiti 17.7 S and Nagasaki 32.8 N

Haig
May 24, 2014 3:39 pm

There is an excellent correlation NOT with the 11yr sunspot cycle BUT with the 22yr magnetic cycle that strongly suggests “it’s the sun stupid”.
Climate follows Hale solar sunspot cycle http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/newell-climate-follows-hale-solar-sunspot-cycle/

John
May 24, 2014 3:42 pm

Willis, you don’t need to go to David Archibald to see links with South American river flow and the 11 year solar cycle:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.0414

Alex E
May 24, 2014 3:45 pm

“What solar mechanism are you proposing that doesn’t move in synchrony with the sunspot cycle (or the magnetic double sunspot cycle, which is simply a sunspot cycle where the polarity reverses each cycle)? The TSI, the UV, the visible light, the magnetism, the solar wind, the galactic cosmic rays, all of those move parallel to the sunspots. So what phenomenon are you referring to, that doesn’t move in harness with the sunspot cycles?”
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The sunspot cycle doesn’t even move in synchrony with itself. it varies from 9 to 15 years, as you have indicated. You are asking why an indirect proxy with a variable frequency doesn’t have a sharp & clearly defined frequency response on climate. Why would it? Especially in a buffered system. It doesn’t make sense to me to ask why the 11 year cycle can’t be seen when we don’t even know why it varies from 9-15.
When Christensen and Lassen looked at the link between solar cycles and climate, they were looking at the length of the cycle. That sounds much more promising. If the solar activity that causes sunspots is in some kind of equilibrium point when the cycle is 11 years, then it stands to reason that factors that pull the sun out of that equilibrium could have a strong effect on climate.
Another is looking at UV. TSI varies little, UV varies quite a bit. Why not just look at that directly instead of through what is essentially a filter when you look at the 11-year cycle.
ps I still don’t know how to quote on this page. what is the command?
[Precede the text you want you blockquoted (indented and in italics) with (blockquote)
and end the selection with (/blockquote). Use < rather than parenthesis. .mod]

William Abbott
May 24, 2014 3:55 pm

Joe D’Aleo has posted several graphs on Weatherbell that demonstrate a correlation between a longer solar cycle (eleven years is an average) and cooler temperatures and also cooler temperatures and a low AP index. (longer cycles and low AP go together) It costs $20 a month to read Weatherbell. I haven’t learned how to do much beyond type in WordPress. You can’t get to the link below without paying. Personally, I think its worth the money. Lots of good weather and climate information on weatherbell.com.
Joe Bastardi posts there too.
http://www.weatherbell.com/premium/joe-daleo/solar-cycle-24-peak-past—history%20says%20watch%20out%20though%20some-questions-remain/

J Martin
May 24, 2014 3:55 pm

Timo Niroma produced this graph of sunspot cycle lengths.
http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/niroma-ss-lengths.jpg?w=921&h=263
Alex E. Go to the WUWT Test [page], this will tell you how to do quotes and allow you to test them.

J Martin
May 24, 2014 3:58 pm

In the Timo Niroma solar cycle graph, note the near absence of an 11 year solar cycle.

Layman Lurker
May 24, 2014 3:59 pm

I think it is pointless to look at correlations with the 11 year cycle as a sort of smoking gun showing “it’s the sun stupid”. There may be evidence of energy imbalance associated with the 11 solar year cycle, but should this really be expected to show a linear relationship with global temp? The accumulation and release of (solar) energy in the oceans is inherently non-linear. There are imbalances between the tropics and extra-tropics. Between shallow and deep water. Between NH and SH. A 1C anomaly in the tropics will not release energy to the atmosphere at the same rate as 1C extra-tropical anomaly. The mechanisms by which oceans capture solar energy in the mixed layer are somewhat different the mechanisms which release it. Etc.