Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The university choices faced by my fellow Queenslanders leave much to be desired if you want to avoid being indoctrinated to global warming mantras. Here is a rundown of choices.
My native Australia prides itself on the quality of its educational offerings. We have a range of fascinating options for students seeking a higher education.
If you like living and studying in the sunshine, the premier University in Queensland is The University of Queensland, which supports scientists like John Cook, who produced the infamous 97% climate consensus survey, which you aren’t allowed to examine in detail.
If University of Queensland is not quite your thing, you could elect to attend James Cook University, which recently ejected Bob Carter, even taking away his library pass. http://joannenova.com.au/2013/06/jcu-caves-in-to-badgering-and-groupthink-blackballs-politically-incorrect-bob-carter/
If you want to be educated in Sydney, home of the year 2000 Summer Olympics, your choice might be Macquarie University, which recently terminated skeptic Murry Salby, under some in my opinion rather strange circumstances – stranding Salby in Paris, after holding a meeting in his abscence. http://joannenova.com.au/2013/08/murry-salby-responds-to-the-attacks-on-his-record/
If Macquarie is not quite to your taste, but you like New South Wales, you could try the University of New South Wales, home of the Ship of Fools. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/22/spiritofmawson-ship-of-fools-apologize-for-mess-face-recovery-costs/
Of course, if you set your sights on the very pinnacle of Australian academia, you could try the Australian National University, whose director of the Australian National Centre for Public Awareness of Science recently demanded we should ignore the facts when it comes to climate science. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/15/australian-national-university-forget-the-climate-facts-we-need-opinions/
If you fancy the cooler Mediterranean climate of Australia’s southern coast, Melbourne University might be your choice – the Melbourne University which hosted to the Gergis study, $300,000 worth of effort which lasted 3 weeks before it had to be pulled due to a major flaw. http://joannenova.com.au/2012/06/300000-dollars-and-three-years-to-produce-a-paper-that-lasted-three-weeks-gergis/
If none of these Universities meet your requirements, you could go West, and try the University of West Australia, former home of our old friend Lewandowsky. UWA’s vice chancellor recently refused to release data to McIntyre, because he didn’t like McIntyre or something. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/03/a-stunning-revelation-from-a-uwa-vice-chancellor-paul-johnson-over-access-to-lewandowsky-poll-data/
So, which Australian university would you choose for your kids?
I once had an interest in visiting Australia, developed after visiting their pavilion at Expo 86 in Vancouver. Australia hosted the next Expo in 1988. I have no interest now in visiting Australia, and it’s all because of intrinsic global warming hype.
One of my sisters spent a year in Burnie, Tasmania with her husband and two daughters a couple of years ago. They were glad to get back home to British Columbia (a province in Canada).
Allegedly illustrious Harvard University brought the execrable Naomi Oreskes onto their team, with an offer of a tenured senior position in the Department of History of Science. Not to mention that they had John Holdren there for many years…..
ergo, one must expect that hardly any university anywhere will prove immune to the hysteria and distortions of the CAGW crowd.
garymount
I once had an interest in visiting Australia, developed after visiting their pavilion at Expo 86 in Vancouver. Australia hosted the next Expo in 1988. I have no interest now in visiting Australia, and it’s all because of intrinsic global warming hype. …
I know what you mean – but I’m hoping Australia is turning a corner on this issue.
While I’m a bit p*ssed that the Abbott government wants to put up taxes, on Global Warming at least they seem to be making a real effort to defund the alarmists.
Lets not forget that Australians voted overwhelmingly for Prime Minister Tony Abbott, despite a very public campaign by his opponents to paint him as a “denier”.
You fail to mention my Alumni, The University of Adelaide
No mention of Bundanyabba School of Mines?
Get a trade. Earn more, no indoctrination. No debt.
Tanya Aardman
You fail to mention my Alumni, The University of Adelaide
Fair point – as far as I know, nobody has tried to eject Ian Plimer from University of Adelaide. Perhaps no news is good news in this case.
University of Notre Dame Fremantle.
http://www.nd.edu.au
Hop across the ditch and attend university in New Zealand. Aussies in NZ pay the same fees as residents (unlike kiwis in Australia).
Skiphil says:
May 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
Allegedly illustrious Harvard University brought the execrable Naomi Oreskes onto their team, with an offer of a tenured senior position in the Department of History of Science. Not to mention that they had John Holdren there for many years…..
ergo, one must expect that hardly any university anywhere will prove immune to the hysteria and distortions of the CAGW crowd.
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Harvard is one of the most likely schools to be infested with climate hysteria. It has been said that their primary mission is to provide statist underpinnings to the children of elites, preparing many for a lifetime of service in the bureaucracy.
Skiphil says:
May 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
“Allegedly illustrious Harvard University brought the execrable Naomi Oreskes onto their team, with an offer of a tenured senior position in the Department of History of Science. Not to mention that they had John Holdren there for many years…..”
What a disaster. For Oreskes, the history of science begins with Marx’s juvenalia. After all, Marx explained that science is a social construct and that the truth is the last ideology standing. Harvard has no shame.
I agree Don, my son graduated from there in Environmental Science, enjoyed the coursework and is successfully employed.
Don’t forget the University of New England, Armidale NSW. They got a grant to aid removing nitrous oxide from soils? If they had asked my agricultural lecturer, he could have told them.
Gypsum. Breaks up soils, so nitrous oxide can’t form. I went to UNE, it was great in the 80s but politics was rampant in the early 2000s. Having a post grad paper marked by a MA student, who didn’t know as much as I did, tends to put one off. Especially as I had a row with a senior lecturer Dr David Roberts over a bush ranger history, and was labelled a holocaust denier at the Sydney Institute. I was on the outer from then on, challenging a senior lecturer. I passed though. But I will not be completing my MA.
“If you like living and studying in the sunshine”
… yet lacking the Lux et Veritas
Many years ago I studied for a bachelor of arts at University of QLD. Although most of my values and views were already shaped by my life experiences ( I was an older student at 28) I came to the experience with a receptive mind and high hopes. Three years later I left without completing my degree, fed up with the pervasive cultural Marxism and relativism and closed-mindedness of the teachers. Only 10% of the lecturers were truly independent thinkers – the rest were tenured radicals, and a surprising number were anti-intellectual mediocrities (surprising to me at the time, that is). This was before GAGW had really taken root. I can only imagine things have gone from bad to worse. It was for me an expensive mistake but at the same time a real eye-opener.
Just not here!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/20/climate-craziness-of-the-week-climate-scientist-presented-as-a-god-like-mao-and-kim-il-sung/
He is working “to develop improved adaptation options for sustainable agri-food production systems.” By the way, Mao, Stalin, and the rest of that infernal crew from the 40’s and 50’s were agricultural reformers. It is an effective means of mass murder. I don’t think any Universities are telling anyone that anymore.
Have Aussie Unis signed up to the UN sustainability agenda like many US Unis have? These are good places not to send your kids/grandkids.
Didn’t the ANU have one senior lecturer who complained about death threats etc., a few years back? But my old lecturer, Mike Morwood, who led the team who uncovered The Hobbit, left UNE and joined ANU. The politics in the Archaeology department was a bit of a problem at that time, The Chair was a strange man, after Professor Graham Connor who really liked students, he really was only interested in the students that could advance to Ph.D., the rest of us were fodder for his sarcastic put downs. AnD HE was a chauvenist
Eric, they hired Gillard and made her a professor of law or something.
After she paid a substantial “grant” (bribe?) to them just before she was unceremoniously dumped by the labor party.
You know, Gillard’s the one that gave us the CO/2 tax who now “works” for want of a better word out of tbe Adelaide University.
Please tell me you didn’t forget.
Since we are trashing universities:
In the 1970’s I was working on my PhD in Chemistry at a prestigious school in upper New York state.
For months I labored to reproduce the results in a “significant” paper authored by a “big name” in science at Purdue. No matter what I did, or how many times I re-did the experiment, I got consistent results that were markedly different from those in the published paper.
I finally gave up and went, in despair, to my adviser.
He looked at my results, looked at the published paper, and said: “they faked their results; ignore this paper and move on”.
What struck me were two things: that a “big name” had faked the results in a published paper; and that my adviser considered this to be totally unremarkable.
It was my awakening to the realities of life in the world of big science.
Clearly, “The Australian Disease” has been a long time coming; small wonder that science is in a state of crisis.
Leigh
Eric, they [Adelaide University] hired Gillard and made her a professor of law or something. … Please tell me you didn’t forget.
Ouch, I didn’t know that one :-).
Still, as long as Adelaide University treat skeptics like Plimer decently, we haven’t really got a case to complain, if they also allow other views on campus.
“The University of Queensland, which supports scientists like John Cook …”
This is the 2nd time in two days I’ve heard him described as a ‘scientist.’ When did he attain that status?
Cartoonist, creator of the SkS propaganda website, then ‘Climate Communications Fellow’ at Queensland. I know he has been furthering his education, but was unaware that he had actually progressed beyond that and become a full-fledged scientist.
Am I mistaken?
At Sydney University we studied crystallography for a large part of 2nd and 3rd year geology, a ‘hobby’ field has nothing to do with anything, which was run by a lowly ranked and lowly paid tutor, and who conducted and taught most of the 2nd and 3rd year course materials himself.
Somebody pointed out, in a review, that this wasn’t the best way to train people for various careers, (actually it was a joke) and the mining and petroleum industries didn’t sponsor much, if any, research, and the government doesn’t either, so there was little to no funding for research into something like mining or petroleum careers. This is true in many western contexts. Fundamentally, mineral and petroleum industries do not employ many people directly.
Many older oil and mining geologists saw the writing on the wall similar to Sydney University, so went over into environmental research, which became a major new source of funding around the early 1990s. Environmental research then largely filled a void that was not being met by traditional mining and petroleum industries, for a variety of complex reasons (including lack of employment requirements in mining and petroleum, lack of new discoveries etc etc).
Mining and petroleum may have flow on effects on employment generally, but they have never been large employers, moreover, they are both subject to vagaries and cycles of funding from financial institutions, the fundamental non-sustainability of mines and oil fields, as well as geographical and geopolitical issues such as the uneven distribution of resources between states and countries. (Patency, or ownership of discoveries are also a problem, unlike say in biotech or software applications-the field are immovable in the ground, and so are contestable and political). In other words, major western educational institutions cannot guarantee any employment or stability of careers within the mining and oil industries for a variety of complex reasons, including the simple fact that mines and oil fields for example are often located far removed from where such centres of education occur. There is both a fundamental ‘stability of career/social sustainability’ factor, as well as a ‘fundamental uneven social distribution’ component. This sort of thing does not occur with most other industries.
I think you will find, that these sort of weaknesses and voids within the earth sciences are a part of the reason they have been largely filled by the socialist left under ‘environmentalism’, with all the attendant problems. As with communism, it was countries with fundamental weaknesses in government and in their economies who were most susceptible to falling to various centralised forms of socialism, with all the attendant problems, so too has this occurred within the earth sciences. Britain, for example, largely abandoned the teaching of geology in the early 19th century, because there are not many jobs in fossils or in maps which have already been compiled. (This is fundamentally true, and so there has always been problems with traditionally getting research funding into the earth sciences, something which has only changed in recent times with the environmental movement. Yet, paradoxically, earth science IS important to economies, its just that this is not always apparent to research councils and governments deciding between say, sponsoring medical research into autism, or sponsoring an understanding of the distribution of tantalum. Guess which one gets the funding?, yet both are required for societies to function).
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“I once had an interest in visiting Australia, developed after visiting their pavilion at Expo 86 in Vancouver. Australia hosted the next Expo in 1988. I have no interest now in visiting Australia, and it’s all because of intrinsic global warming hype.
One of my sisters spent a year in Burnie, Tasmania with her husband and two daughters a couple of years ago. They were glad to get back home to British Columbia (a province in Canada).”
Easily put off then, it’s not as if there are CAGW posters on very street corner. The natural beauty is unaffected (generally) by hordes of Greenie CAGW enthusiasts. As for Burnie, I wouldn’t base the Tasmanian experience on that one town. I visited Tasmania for the first time in the 70s and Burnie was easily my least-favourite place in the (then) Apple Isle.