I’m truly sorry about the title, but nothing else really describes the ridiculousness of the pronouncement by the White House aide John Podesta over these two satellite images in a maddeningly idiotic story from the Washington Post.
In a Feb. 24 Oval Office meeting, two of President Obama’s top climate advisers presented these sharply-contrasting images of California’s snowpack on Jan. 13, 2013 (left) and a year later (right), as a way to underscore how global warming is changing conditions on the ground in the United States.
The satellite images viewed by President Obama before a meeting with eight Western governors were stark, showing how snowpack in California’s mountains had shrunk by 86 percent in a single year.
“It was a ‘Houston, we have a problem’ moment,” recalled White House counselor John D. Podesta, one of two aides who briefed the president that February day. Obama mentioned the images several times as he warned the governors that political leaders had no choice but to cope with global warming’s impact.
After years of putting other policy priorities first — and dismaying many liberal allies in the process — Obama is now getting into the weeds on climate change and considers it one of the key components of his legacy, according to aides and advisers.
Story here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-president-obama-a-renewed-focus-on-climate/2014/05/04/6b81412c-d144-11e3-9e25-188ebe1fa93b_story.html
Gasp! 86% change in a single year. More proof positive that ‘global warming’ is accelerating. /sarc
So tell me, oh geniuses, what will you show the President after the looming El Niño kicks in later this year, and California has a wetter than normal year during the winter of 2014/15 and the snow pack goes up to something like 146% of normal? What then? Blame that on global warming and call it another “Houston we have a problem” moment when we get flooding in California like in 1997/1998 after that big EL Niño changed the weather pattern in a single year to drench the state?
The lack of snowpack in 2014 is all about ENSO and resulting jet stream patterns, something well known for years.
Pattern shifts related to ENSO make California winters highly variable. For example, compare the snowpack change from 1880 to 1881 in the graph below from the Sierra Snow Lab and note some of the other low years highlighted in yellow.
Snowfall and snowpack data from the CSSL archive dating from 1878 to1945, and from 1952 to1957, were measured and supplied by the Southern Pacific Transportation Company. Snowpack and snowfall measurements were taken at Summit Station from 1878 through 1927, and at Norden from 1927 on. From 1879 to 1897, and 1901, the maximum snowpack depth was estimated. Current CSSL methodology mandates that new snow is measured twice a day, at 0800 and 1600 Pacific Standard Time. The depth of the new snow is probed with a rule at the four corners of a snow board. [The snow board is piece of plastic-covered plywood, .25m2 in area.] The four depths are recorded and averaged, the board is then cleaned off and replaced on the snowpack surface.
[Ref: Randall S. Osterhuber, Climatic Summary of Donner Summit, California, Central Sierra Snow Laboratory, October 1993]
Will these geniuses in the White House say global warming reached back through time to 1881 to cause this? How about 1977, was that “global warming” too? But let’s indulge them, let’s say it is ALL caused by ‘global warming’. What will they do about it? Tax it? Issue a presidential order? Make emitting CO2 a crime?
Like Nature cares what they think or do. Idiots.
| “Some people are weatherwise, but most people are otherwise.” — Benjamin Franklin |
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Obama’s legacy will be one best forgotten about, very similar to that of Jimmy Carter.
As for Podesta, he is obviously a spin man, not a scientist. So purveying BS to the unwashed masses is his strong point. For spin doctors, facts only ever get in the way.
When are these idiots ever going to learn the difference between climate and weather?
Only the unwashed masses could be relied on not to notice the difference in last winter’s weather between California and the central and eastern US. And that is the target market for Podesta’s BS, what Aldous Huxley used to call the Epsilon Minus Semi-Morons.
When every major university in the land denies the existence of truth, why do we get pissed when they don’t tell it?
Of course science and every other discipline has been politicized, when truth is denied all that’s left is politics.
Not so dumbass a problem if the illusion of Climate Change and the fictitious but mesmerizing models get used to justify planning the economy and society. That’s precisely what is going on and Podesta and John Holdren were also involved with releasing this Big Data report last week that is not about privacy at all. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/big_data_privacy_report_may_1_2014.pdf
I don’t think you should be using the Donner Summit chart until it has been analyzed, adjusted and transformed. Otherwise you may be using real data.
President O’Bama is certainly building a lasting legacy. A legacy of looking a complete chump.
Podesta: “Houston we have a problem”
Wattsupwithat: “This is Mission Control, we’ve analyzed your problem and determined you need to open up the blinds on your view screen while we give you a crash course in basic weather patterns.”
Idiots? Much too kind.
They are desperately trying to use the first principle of propaganda; tell a lie big enough and often enough and it becomes to be considered the truth. As implied, reality continues to be what it is in spite of the prancing, dancing, and posturing of our so called leaders.
The scene isn’t working for anyone. We the People are being sacked and robbed of our [wealth]. Our leaders are putting on a show that makes the Keystone Cops and the Three Stooges look like super competent geniuses. Their talking points are as ephemeral as a cloud. Transforming from inconsistency to contradiction to a denial of saying what was said only moments ago. Even Humpty Dumpty would be embarrassed if he used words the way our leaders do.
What difference does it make? It makes a life or death difference for We the People, our once great nation, and the existence of technological civilization. I suggest they want the despair, poverty, death, and destruction they have and are achieving. When someone keeps doing the same things and gets the same results, they actually intend to get the results they get. They are not innocent in the matter.
I hope California has its flood protection systems working well when the coming El Niño starts dumping flooding rains in the Fall.
There’s always landslides on the Pacific Coast Highway for example.
Appropriate title. Want to bet they do not show the same comparison next year?
Like any material can exist in only three states (gas, liquid, solid) there are only three states that emerge from politics: truth, lies, and stupidity. So you have to think, is this lies, or stupidity?
America…beep…you have a problem…beep.
Ground control the the little ‘o” in the White house why not kick start something of actual use to your ‘Fellow Americans?”
….is this lies, or stupidity? How about stupid lies?
If anything, there appears to be less year to year variation than there was in the late 1800s. Worse than I thought, indeed…
This is a high resolution global map of what an El Nino does to precipitation in the period after it peaks. Notice the most impacted areas are Indonesia, Australia, and the Amazon which dry out, while California gets much more rain/snow. Green is more rain, Brown is less rain in this map.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/ENSO/regressions/diag.prec.regr.JFM.png
Temperature impact. The area from Alaska to Minnesota gets the highest positive temperature impact and the US south is actually opposite, cooling off more than anywhere else.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/ENSO/regressions/diag.temp.regr.JFM.png
The patterns are more-or-less opposite in a La Nina.
Fools? nope they achieved their ‘objectives’ by using a old trick knowing politicians can have short memories . I call that smart .
… an 86% drop in 1 year …. at this rate …. we will have no snow by this summer …. How alarming !!!
/sarc
Not seeing a correlation here… http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/mikeishere/sierra_snow_packandhadcrut4gl1879-2013.gif
David, UK says:
May 5, 2014 at 4:32 am
Idiocy or dishonesty? Let’s look at the evidence.
1. They’re politicians.
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Both
David A
May 5, 2014 at 5:25 am
‘….is this lies, or stupidity? How about stupid lies?’
In all due respect, sir, you underestimate these people at your peril. Podesta’s birthplace is Chicago. Obama launched his political career in Chicago. Obama and crew have brought Chicago-style politics to the national stage. Nobody but a Democrat can ever be elected in Chicago.
Podesta was called to the WH in December 2013 after the disastrous rollout of the Obamacare exchanges and their fear of what that, and all the other failures of that program, would do to the Democrats in the midterms this November. This is a distraction from the mess that is Obamacare. They’re going to pound away at however many distractions they can find. And the MSM will assist them.
Meanwhile the rest of the country had it’s worst winter in history.
Again, the absurd proposition that driving cars less makes a mountain-chain snowpack bigger, or relieves a regional drought.
And again, I suggest throwing a virgin into the Mt St Helens caldera would be just as (non)effective.
Learn to deal w/drought the rational way, California/Wash DC. This isn’t the Dark Ages, yet.
Lest this goes unremarked upon…
…Podesta et als “go to guy” at the Washington Post.
The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley – “Like any material can exist in only three states (gas, liquid, solid)“. Um, science has moved on a bit … but I’m not sure if politics has.
Obama is now getting into the weeds on climate change and considers it one of the key components of his legacy
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When people look back on the Obama era they will think fondly of Jimmy Carter.