First the story from AP, then we’ll show you how her claim is just bollocks
Clinton wants ‘mass movement’ on climate change
TEMPE, Ariz. — Hillary Rodham Clinton says young people understand the significant threat of climate change and that she hopes there will be a mass movement that demands political change.
The potential 2016 presidential candidate says at a Clinton Global Initiative University panel that young people are much more committed to doing something to address climate change. Clinton says it isn’t “just some ancillary issue” but will determine the quality of life for many people.
The former secretary of state cited global warming as a major issue that students could face in the future.
She made the comments Saturday during an interview with late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel at Arizona State University.
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Readers may recall WUWT’s recent report of the recent Gallup Poll and how climate fared.
New Gallup poll shows climate change near the bottom of things worth worrying about
This is very similar to the survey showing Europeans worrying a lot more about almost all other issues than global warming, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152349665523968
And, environmental worry now is even lower that when Climategate happened in 2009, and is the lowest in over a decade:
Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/167843/climate-change-not-top-worry.aspx
And here’s what Gallup discovered about young people:
Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/167879/not-global-warming-serious-threat.aspx
The majority of the 18-29 year-olds, 57 percent, don’t see global warming/climate change as a serious threat to their way of life. And, that thinking holds the majority of opinion across the board of age groups.
Clinton’s opinion on this is just more empty-headed rhetoric with no basis in fact.
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“…she hopes there will be a mass movement that demands political change.”
I hope so too. In the U.S., 2 branches of government out of 3 are controlled by global-warming Democrats. Hopefully that will be reduced to 1 out of 3 branches this November. I sense a political climate change welling up from the deep oceans of normally apathetic citizens. Can they stay awake long enough to cast their votes before the liberal media lulls them back into their deep and hypnotic sleep?
Village of the Damned, right Hillary
Clinton was speaking at Clinton Global Initiative University… So that’s a CGI university, then? Hasn’t Hollywood already shown us how CGI is usually created by filming in front of a green screen and then filling in the details with computer-modelled data?
It would seem that Mrs Clinton is doing nothing less than her priapic husband by trying to fool people into believing that, like him, she does not want sex with them she just wants to f(snip) them.
You never know , by 2016 climate change may be the last issue any politician wants to hang their hat on . Wishful thinking I guess , but you never know…..
Another “marketing” suggestion
Climate Change Scientists Could Learn From Debt Ceiling Debate
http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/climate-change-scientists-could-learn-from-debt-ceiling-debate/
William Safire famously called Hillary Clinton a “congenital liar,” which is hard to prove.I tend to agree that “pathological liar” — for which evidence is overwhelming — is more appropriate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-bernstein/hillary-clinton-truth-or-_b_93523.html
http://www.blacknewsweekly.com/news461.html
Here is a Rasmussen poll in contrast, about global warming more specifically than “quality of the environment”:
The percentage believing global warming is primarily caused by human activity averaged in the mid-30s during 2010, but propaganda has actually managed to get it to go up to 44% in the last poll in February 2014. It has gone up and down (often higher in the summer than the winter), but the downturn of 2009-2010 has overall been fading.
In other words, nominally the warmists are winning in popular opinion.
Specific data: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/environment_energy/environment_update
The poll question isn’t quite my favorite, as someone could think global warming was mostly manmade (though it isn’t) and yet minor/beneficial or otherwise not support the standard “solution” package, but still it gives a probable idea of trends.
While I am a skeptic, I’ve observed, for each and every major affiliation, a tendency of people to be biased in favor of thinking their side is more popular or winning more than is actually the case. Skeptics overestimate how well they are doing.
A lot of the superficial gains of skeptics recently, in terms of advancement of CAGW movement policies being stalled, are largely a side effect of the economic recession, an effect potentially temporarily. The CAGW movement has realized to increasingly target those most easily influenced, children, working indoctrination further into school curriculums, and it is fighting the long war in that regard.
Will the CAGW movement win? I don’t think so, but, if cooling later this decade and beyond was somehow much less than I expect, if future cooling was not enough to exceed their capability to rewrite temperature records, they still could succeed. What people become when indoctrinated enough with such and related anti-growth / anti-capitalist / anti-industry / anti-human ideologies is not pretty to behold, and all climate related is only one head of a hydra, not its heart.
To win, they don’t have to get everyone to really believe in CAGW (and their experienced elites tend to know better but secretly view it as a lie convenient to general ideological-political goals), just expand somewhat the coalition of the honest-but-ignorant and the knowledgeable-but-dishonest.
As for the worry about “quality of the environment” poll data, a lot of what it shows is how much there are extra temporary distractors at the time: The Iraq War, the recession, and “Cold War 2” with Russia each cause dips. For instance, expect worry about the environment to go up months from now if there isn’t another major non-environmental crisis.
I guess Ms Clinton did not get the memo:
Recent satellite evidence from the Japanese climate satellite IBUKU shows that the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is coming from temperature-induced high vegetation equatorial regions of the earth and not from human use of fossil fuels in Europe, UK or US.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/climate-change-nothing-to-do-with-humans-1-5947459
Addition to recent prior comment:
To clarify a little further, while the rise to now 44% believing global warming is mostly manmade might not seem like a lot, keep in mind:
a) The percentages believing it was “planetary trends” (bad choice of words in the poll but what available) or “other reason” were only 35% and 7% respectively.
b) The percentage believing it to be mostly manmade has mostly been going up since 2011, which is what I mean by the warmists winning in popular opinion, in trend.
c) This was a poll of U.S. likely voters, a group with far more skeptics than most of the world.
d) Most harmful measures in politics don’t depend on a majority actually, just a combo of serious proponents with many near-neutrals not actively opposing enough.
No one is easier to fool that the self-centered and self-absorbed; traits that are in ample supply in today’s “young people”. Believing you are superior and in possession of the “latest” knowledge also makes you very easy to manipulate. Young people, do you realize you are being pandered to????????????????
Secretary of State Kerry was out in the developing countries in the last few months lecturing the people on seriousness of climate change. He thought that people got their message as they gave him a rousing ovation. Former Secretary Clinton did it before him. The citizens of developing countries might be poor but they are not stupid and with the current state of information flow, they know that US has not ratified the Kyoto Protocol even when the democrats were in power. Secretaries Clinton and Kerry were strong leaders in the senate and they never even made the motion even if it will be surely defeated to ask the President to put the Kyoto Protocol for ratification. Vice President Al Gore did the same. The people in developing countries were just polite in welcoming their guests but in local conversations those American leaders were really a shame to their country— people were talking about HYPOCRISY.
I think most skeptics are not realistic. We have to understand IT DOESNT MATTER IF WE ARE RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEMONIZING US. By that I mean this idea that somehow we are winning when the powers that be continue to shut down the very sources that would make our nation strong and self dependent, means they could care less about what is right and wrong as far as what is really driving the climate. If you actually cared, why would make the statements we see here, or coming out of the current SOS, given data going in the opposite direction. You wouldn’t. Because they don’t care about all this except its a smokescreen to continue to accomplish their real mission, which most of the people that actually care about what is right and wrong about drives the climate are not involved in.
You have another group that cares that they have become important because of this. Before this issue came to life, can you name one climatologist that had “rock star” status. Yah plenty of weathermen, from local to national but its like this was their chance to get on the big stage. Heroes and Enemies of the people, dispatches from the front lines of “Climate Wars” tales of storms of grandchildren, its like some study in delusions of grandeur.
You have to understand this. By standing for what you believe in, you are a threat to the social order they cherish.. the lets all get together mentality ( providing they are in charge). The very idea that a single person with a simple answer based in truth can challenge them, yet alone be correct, is a huge threat to the social order they seek to be in charge of ( and in many ways are now). So the fight here is not about whether the earth is warming or cooling and why, its about something I think is far more sinister, the destruction of the will of the individual to stand for what he believes in. If we understand that, then you see the so called fight is about something they will use to achieve their ends, no matter what the means.
Given all the evidence out there, what other conclusion can one come too? The fact is that men of good will are at a disadvantage if the fight is not what they believe it is. So all the polls in the world mean nothing to people who really dont care about the answer, but only care that they get their way.
i saw this yesterday & had a laugh at Mrs. Clinton expressing her PERSONAL GRATITUDE for the university’s solar stance:
22 March: AZFamily: Jared Dillingham: Clinton family brings Global Initiative University to ASU
TEMPE, Ariz. — Arizona State University is hosting the Clinton Global Initiative University through the weekend.
The former first family brought 1,000 students from around the world to Tempe for a weekend of networking, brainstorming and seminars…
She also noted ASU’s plan to become carbon neutral by 2025.
“As you know by looking around, ASU is probably the largest consumer and deployer of solar power of any university in America, for which I am very grateful,” the former president told the crowd.
The Clintons will appear with their daughter, Chelsea, for an event on Saturday. Talk show host Jimmy Kimmel will play moderator.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Clinton-family-brings-Global-Initiative-University-to-ASU-251634201.html
Clinton Global Initiative University – About Us
Each year, CGI U hosts a meeting where students, youth organizations, topic experts, and celebrities come together to discuss and develop innovative solutions to pressing global challenges. CGI U 2014 will take place at Arizona State University in metropolitan Phoenix from March 21-23, 2014. The meeting will bring together nearly 1,200 attendees to make a difference in CGI U’s five focus areas: Education, Environment and Climate Change, Peace and Human Rights, Poverty Alleviation, and Public Health. More than $750,000 is now available for select student commitment-makers…
http://www.cgiu.org/about/
Consensus about climastrology and now youth poll numbers about the global warming standstill. After over a decade of high propaganda they have failed. Yeah, kids will say they are concerned until they grow up and have other more important things to think about. They will also realise that the weather is changeable and prone to a few light showers with a south westerly breeze. We have NEVER had it so good as per standards of living and the weather or climate.
• Holocene climate extremes before 1850
• Great storms of the Little Ice Age
• The greening biosphere in recent decades
Cut us some slack here Joe Bastardi,we see this religion too.
All scams,cult and popular delusions run on those rails.
The tale of the Emperors new clothes has all these ingredients.
We see these liars, self aggrandizing fools and we work to show our non-involved relatives, just how evil these con artists are.
The worm has turned in Australia, here in Canada it is at least stalled.
What I am hearing from your USA Political animals is pure FUD.Desperate FUD.
The progressives have grossly overreached, they know it as Obama care craters in, big government is no citizens friend and the voters appear finally ready to turn on these elected parasites.
The cynical attempts to whip up hysteria over climate change are doomed, too many lies,too many years of drivel, it is a lame attempt at diversion, from the naked contempt your kleptocrats hold your constitution and the citizenry in.
It always takes time to take down the maniacs who lust for power over all, but due to their inherent stupidity they are always willing to help shoot their own feet off.
I know what these statist parasites are, democracy depends on convincing enough other voters that what we see is true.
Hence the advantage sceptics have, truth.
It is slow but lethal to liars.
Clinton cannot discuss the main issues because she fails in all of them. The same Gallup organization polled why people think Hillary should be president. By a large plurality (2 to 1) the top response was because she is a woman. The same poll had a majority not giving any answer. Some would say they did not see any reason she should be president.
Joe Bastardi says:
March 23, 2014 at 4:17 pm
“I think most skeptics are not realistic……”
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Most everyone reading this blog/thread has found it through a search toward “realism”.
So, realize that most long rants only have the first and last paragraphs read.
Unless they are very well written.
It was recently pointed out to each and everyone of us, and the politicians who should be taking notice, that there are 18 year old ex students that are trying to make it in the reality of the workforce and also realising the reality of a world that has not warmed for the entire time of their schooling and now trending down in global temperatures, in stark contrast to the doomy gloomers promoting dodgy science based on faulty climate models, the old Al Gore flim flamming and misrepresentation of climate didn’t happen in their lifetime, so all that is passé, gone dealt with.
They want a strong economy, jobs, earning capacity, along with the ability to buy their own home settle down and live in peace and prosperity. They know now, that will not happen if the same people who predicted that false doom and gloom get control and wreck the economic future of your country.
They are not manipulated and controlled kids anymore, but adults with the ability to think, reason and observe. Hilary and Al, you fooled them once and they are just realising that, so politically dangerous to continue to regard them as fools and try again.
I thought her and Monica’s boyfriend were supposed to be working hard on straightening out some funding irregularities with their “charity”. I wonder if they got that resolved yet. IIRC, it sounded like they needed to put in quite a bit of their personal oversight to get to the bottom of it. Maybe Chelsea’s doing the numbers?
Depends on what your definition of young people is. Does anyone really think that Hillary has a clue as to what young people are concerned about?
Her idea of young people is someone in their 40’s who’s got a lot of time invested in Leftist rhetoric and Climate change propaganda. Along with being a full fledged supporter of the Democrat parties platform and socialist goals.
Remember that Climate Change is just the current label being slapped on an old old ideology that still gathers some power hungry people who know they have all the answers but who know they couldn’t get elected to dog catcher because they’re unelectable for one reason or another.
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The Early Bird has found the worm.
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She is very out of touch to imagine that AGW is a big enough political issue to build her campaign strategy on.
Perhaps you’re forgetting her work at the Rose Law Firm, her staunch defense of Jim and Linda McDougal led to….. Oh well, never mind.
Bear in mind, that last comment is coming from someone that actually worked in Little Rock on the White Water investigation. Jim Frei had decided that “there was nothing more to see here”. Nothing Republicans did could have done more damage to their reputation than to let Kenneth Starr begin to lead their witch hunt. Well, it did accomplish one thing. Both parties agreed that it was well past time to let the Special Counsel Statute lapse and die a quiet death.
All too true. “Climate Change” is an enormous issue for the next generation. They need to call the alarmists to account for the consequences