While the Anti Defamation League turns a blind eye to their own home grown hypocrisy and ugliness, Lawrence Torcello comes up with even more.

Via Delingpole at Breitbart:
Scientists who don’t believe in catastrophic man-made global warming should be put in prison, a US philosophy professor argues on a website funded by the UK government.
Lawrence Torcello – assistant professor of philosophy at Rochester Institute of Technology, NY, writes in an essay at The Conversation that climate scientists who fail to communicate the correct message about “global warming” should face trial for “criminal negligence”. (H/T Bishop Hill)
What are we to make of those behind the well documented corporate funding of global warming denial? Those who purposefully strive to make sure “inexact, incomplete and contradictory information” is given to the public? I believe we understand them correctly when we know them to be not only corrupt and deceitful, but criminally negligent in their willful disregard for human life. It is time for modern societies to interpret and update their legal systems accordingly.
More here: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/13/US-Philosophy-Professor-Jail-Denialist-Climate-Scientists-For-Criminal-Negligence
What next, numbers tattoed on our arms because we hold an opinion different from Torcello?
From their Vision and Mission page:
Integrity and Ethics: Does what it takes to deliver on commitments made to the department, college, or division and to constituency groups. Builds personal trust and relationships inside and outside the university by doing what one says he or she will do when it is promised.
Respect, Diversity and Pluralism: Provides a high level of service to fellow members of the RIT community. Treats every person with dignity. Demonstrates inclusion by incorporating diverse perspectives to plan, conduct, and/or evaluate the work of the organization, department, college, or division.
Apparently “treating people with dignity” only applies if you are part of the RIT community.
If you want to complain to the Rochester Institute of Technology about Mr. Torcello, here’s the places to do it:
http://www.rit.edu/fa/humanresources/aboutus
http://www.rit.edu/cla/philosophy/Torcello.html
If you choose to lodge a complaint, be sure to be courteous and factual, we don’t need to surrender the moral high ground to anger.
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Another Wannabe out of his depth. Strong contender for the Nobel Prize. Especially if he has some information to prove the CAGW hypothesis, since nobody else can.
Philosophy, isn’t it dependent on your world view? And personal observations and political view points, not science? In the dark ages or even earlier in human evolutionary stages, information was restricted to the elite or the warrior classes who had their own personal shamans or priests. It wasn’t until the mini ice age when wine presses were converted into printing presses, that books became more available, but still very elusive and expensive. (Mainly because the masses could not read or write, and subject to manipulation of course). I remember one philosophy question was…. “Is the universe infinite or finite” Go to the edge of the universe and look back in? Doesn’t that suggest it is finite? My answer would have been,’ I can’t see that far nor can telescopes, and our galaxy is expanding, so wouldn’t have put up a reasonable philosophical argument. Anyway, I never picked philosophy as one of my subjects, people I knew did and were invariably getting distinctions, and in real life were to me idiots with poor rational/realistic personalities. Doesn’t mean that all philosophy students are like this, so I don’t want to offend Johanna again.
PS. Since the internet, we are expanding our resources for information. Unfortunately, sometimes the information is very politically motivated, and I believe what information we do receive is not the whole truth, especially from governments with national security their chief objectives.
Philosophers may live but they don’t work in the real world. They deal in ideas and ways of looking at things, more in thoughts than in facts. They rely entirely on scientists for their view of the real world, yet they confuse their profession with natural philosophy, their world view with reality and the self importance of their ramblings with learned authority.
The good ones recognise these limitations and the boundaries of their profession.
The novices and aspirants sometimes get to open their mouths and embarrass the profession though.
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Philosophers may live but they don’t work in the real world. They deal in ideas and ways of looking at things, more in thoughts than in facts. They rely entirely on scientists for their view of the real world, yet they confuse their profession with natural philosophy, their world view with reality and the self importance of their ramblings with learned authority.
The good ones recognise these limitations and the boundaries of their profession.
The novices and aspirants sometimes get to open their mouths and embarrass the profession though.
RE Jeff in Calgary says:
March 14, 2014 at 9:19 am
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While I like your sentiment, your basis is untrue. Who was thrown in prison for theorizing that the earth went around the sun? Not Galileo. Not Kepler. Not Copernicus. Not Newton. The “Church persecuted science” line of thought is a myth. Do some googling of real science historians, rather than popular anti-religion zealots.
(Note: Galileo was put under house arrest for using heliocentricism to question the authroity of the Bible. No prison, and not for science.)
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Please look up Giordano Bruno, not only was he thrown in prison, but they executed him for his belief that the Earth goes around the sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
Bob Diaz
John says:
March 14, 2014 at 7:14 am
As I have been saying for years… this global lie called global warming has become a religion for these nutters. They should be put away in a rubber room and toss the key.
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I strongly disagree. Your position is indistinguishable from Torcello’s – you just believe you’re right, and it’s ok to say essentially what Torcello said.
We’re wining the scientific argument against CAGW because of Mother Nature’s data. The correct response to Torcello and his ilk is to shame them because they are unqualified (ie: absolutely no scientific credentials) and in gross violation of the scientific method.
Whatever fetid academic backwater Torcello normally occupies, he needs to understand that what may be acceptable academic behavior in his world is laughably unacceptable in the scientific arena.
Jeff in Calgary says:
March 14, 2014 at 9:19 am
Bob Diaz says:
March 13, 2014 at 11:41 pm
Who was thrown in prison for theorizing that the earth went around the sun? Not Galileo. Not Kepler. Not Copernicus. Not Newton. The “Church persecuted science” line of thought is a myth. Do some googling of real science historians, rather than popular anti-religion zealots.
(Note: Galileo was put under house arrest for using heliocentricism to question the authroity of the Bible. No prison, and not for science.)
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I disagree: Heliocentrism (which Galileo advocated) vs crystal spheres is certainly science. In 1633, the Catholic church’s inquisition found Galileo guilty of heresy and sentenced him to prison even though he explicitly stated heliocentrism DID NOT contradict the Bible. Due to his relationship with the pope, this was changed to house arrest, under which Galileo lived for the remainder of his life.
The church did indeed persecute scientific lines of thought (and is still not too keen on evolution or stem cell research).
Frankly, I think that Torcello and his opinions are more to be laughed at than to be concerned about.
My view is that – not unlike Lewandowsky and others of his ilk – he’s a third-rate, if not fourth-rate and unforthright, “thinker” trying to make a name for himself by parrotting that which he’s heard from others (e.g. Suzuki, who has voiced a similar opinion, and/or Microsoft’s big hiring mistake, Stephen Emmott – See Geoff Chambers blog).
Others whom Torcello might be relying on for his “views” might include the U.K.Guardian‘s George Monbiot, whose ardent adherence to ill-informed advocacy is legendary, along with that of so many others in the Guardian‘s green advocacy stable.
So, in the pantheon of ignorant partisan parrots, I’d be more inclined to position Torcello in the ranks of the lesser lights (as opposed to the acolytes).
Considering the extent to which the various and sundry tentacles of the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) have succeeded in foisting their “philosophy” (for want of a better word) in so many aspects of our lives, over the last twenty years, I am far more concerned about official and/or entrenched declarations such as that of the UN’s Commission on Crime Prevention and Criminal Justice. One of whose “mandated priority areas” is:
[For source of the above, pls see: http://hro001.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/introducing-the-uns-jolly-green-sustainable-hockey-stick/ ]
The mileage of others may certainly vary, but it seems to me that this “mandated priority area” may well have led to a fairly recent (albeit largely unheralded and unreported – if not unheard of) UNEP joining of forces with INTERPOL:
Reading between those particular UN-speak lines, there may well be a new – and more insidious and harmful – playbook in the works about which, IMHO, we really should be concerned.
If Dr. Larry is going to opine on the philosophy of science, he should at least read the seminal work on that matter, namely “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions” by Thomas Kuhn.
BTW, Dr. Larry, they locked up Galileo for denying what the 99% “consensus” of existing “scientists” had to say about the fundamental “settled science” of astronomy, but the earth continued to rotate around the sun anyway.
BTW, a few of the other scientists who correctly bucked the 99% consensus were, Louis Pasteur, Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, Alfred Wegener, Antoine Lavoisier, and Robin Warren and Barry J. Marshall. Fortunately, Dr. Larry wasn’t in charge of jailing scientific heretics during those times, or otherwise we would be living in a far different and a far worse world than today.
If Dr. Larry is going to opine on the philosophy of science, he should at least read the seminal work on that matter, namely “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions” by Thomas Kuhn.
BTW, Dr. Larry, they locked up Galileo for denying what the 99% “consensus” of existing “scientists” had to say about the fundamental “settled science” of astronomy, but the earth continued to rotate around the sun anyway.
BTW, a few of the other scientists who correctly bucked the 99% consensus were, Louis Pasteur, Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, Alfred Wegener, Antoine Lavoisier, and Robin Warren and Barry J. Marshall. Fortunately, Dr. Larry wasn’t in charge of jailing scientific heretics during those times, or otherwise we would be living in a far different and a far poorer world than today.
I briefly took courses at RIT. A friend who also went to RIT told me this week while he was down for a visit that the president of RIT was a CIA agent…. (President M. Richard Rose )
I can not believe that RIT would have someone this useless on campus. I had a much higher opinion of the school, their instructors were excellent with industrial experience required, but that was more than thirty years ago.
I have met some ivory tower merchants at University. Maybe because I was much older than the majority of students and teachers and had seen a bit of the world and life. I like archaeology and palaeoanthropology because it is based on forensic examination not just some unqualified to speak on the discipline, they have to pursue a line of argument that has significant data to prove their hypothesis. Of course some do corrupt the data to prove their point, nothing is new about this. The bottom line is data compiled can be biased, and as new evidence becomes available this can alter the archaeological record and perceived accuracy. Such as Mike Morwood’s find on Flores that created a lot of critical response from other universities, one Indonesia professor even changed the shape of the skull. Luckily the original was taken prior to transporting to him. Even archaeologists/antropologist don’t like their previous research looking out dated or wrong.
This can be academic suicide for them.
Years ago I put in a filler unit to complete my BA. “Earth in Crisis?” The senior lecturer did say the build up of Greenhouse gases is flawed. Yet pollution was a dire problem to water courses air and sanitation. (Smogs etc) But he did mention that sun spots do affect our climate. Increased solar activity generally creates lower rain falls and droughts. What is prevalent in Australia are floods and drought. We were posed with a question about spreading urban areas from the main cities to coastal areas. My argument presentation was to approve this strategy and address population problems, like transport, energy supplies and water supplies. I said we could beat the water crisis, by creating anti-saline water plants. Recycled water plants, etc. And nuclear energy generators. (Not that I believe in nuclear stations, but Hansen recommended that we should use nuclear as we had such a large coastline and sea water could be used to cool the plant) I passed. In Sydney they built a huge plant run by 76 wind turbines. It’s closed now. The wind turbines were so noisy people complained.
After thinking about Prof. Torcello’s position for a bit, I’ve concluded that he’s not offering a serious opinion. He’s merely grandstanding in pursuit of professional advancement. Torcello is an Assistant Prof., barely a step up from a post-doc. He’s not on a tenure track. He’s now made national news by publishing an outrageous statement, which he must know stands not a chance in hell of ever being adopted legislatively. He has roiled the waters, though, and garnered the attention of his intended audience, the radical left Chairmen and Chairwomen of Philosophy Departments across the country. He’s made a stab in the dark, hoping that somebody at, say, Evergreen College or San Francisco State will think, “Hmmm…this guy belongs with us! Let’s get him out of the frigid climes of Rochester.” Torcello’s a clown, jumping through hoops for the hermetically-sealed-from-the-real-world clownmasters who “teach” at American universities.
First, I DO NOT CARE what a philosophy professor has to say about a topic trying to be considered a hard science.
In fact it is people like him that are causing the problem. SCIENCE IS NOT A consensus/majority rule process.
The only time you really have any type of formal gathering is for a peer review which is intending to attack the proposed scientific theory until it accepted by the community at large. There is SIGNIFICANT disagreement regards climate “change”, climate “chaos” and their predecessor global warming. Worse yet the very predictions offered up as part of global warming have not happened. Next, the outright fraud and misinformation put out by the political community under the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is a disgrace. The IPCC is a board created by the UN and staffed by political nominees from UN member nations. The actual number of scientists, let alone climatologists associated with the IPCC is very small and many of those that were members resigned and demanded that their names NOT be associated with anything the IPCC publishes.
Now then, let’s look on the positive side…. The climate is changing… duh… that is basically the definition of the word weather. Temperatures have risen. Temperatures have fallen. Both of these have occurred on a regional and global basis. As to the narrow-minded individuals and those with agendas that use the suspect information being distributed, I have just a few questions…. What is the normal temperature of the earth both regionally and globally? How did they set the baseline temperatures and ranges? Since there have been literally hundreds of volcanic eruptions that individually have put more ash, toxins, and CO2 in the atmosphere than has been caused by the entire existence of man, how can you quantify man’s impacts? Lastly, even you revert human civilization back to a totally agrarian society… with no cars, power plants, cell phones, trains, jets,… nothing how can you account for the volcanic eruptions or solar flares?
Why does an Institute of Technology have a Philosophy Department. Philosophy is not a science, its a pseudo-intellectual dodge.
USEFUL IDIOT.
Can I file a complaint against the writer of this article, who clearly only skimmed Torcello’s actual paper? It says right in his quote that he thinks spreading misinformation is bad and should have legal consequences! Y’know, like how there’s laws against false advertising or unlabled hazards? Why _not_ have rules about unscientific propaganda?!
REPLY: Sure, since you are using the Rochester Institute of Technology network, why not complain to the school itself so they can send a sternly worded letter. While you are at it. You can sign up for the “frog march” – Anthony
I don’t care for so called philosophers, they tend to be relate to religious dogma or political agendas. Anyway, just warm yourselves and eat plenty of carbohydrate.
This guy is not exactly writing in a typical philosophical talk is he? He’s taking sides, and I believe a true philosopher explains themselves with logical non partisan language, i.e. logic?