So, as WUWT readers well know, I have a different opinion about global warming.
Do you think the New York Times should endorse stabbing me (and others with similar opinions) through the heart like a vampire because I hold that opinion? See panel #4 “self destructing sabers for dispatching climate-change deniers”.
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/see-something-say.html?_r=2
Admittedly, this is a lame attempt at humor/satire, something we are all well familiar with applying here at WUWT. But, imagine if the tables were turned, and the cartoon depicted global warming alarmists such as Mike Mann or James Hansen in the same role? Our friends would have a collective cow. Yet, somehow, somebody at the New York Times thinks it is acceptable to suggest “dispatching” a whole class of people that hold a different viewpoint from them.
I’m waiting on I have a comment from NYT’s Andrew Revkin, who was the subject of a post yesterday, as to what he thinks about this in his own newspaper.
For the record, I don’t think global warming is a “hoax”, but it certainly has been oversold.
h/t to Steve Milloy at Junkscience.com
UPDATE: Andrew Revkin sends this comment via email:
I find the final panel in this cartoon on uses for surplus icicles to be the antithesis of humor. But some artists, like some bloggers, seem to thrive on edge pushing. Andres Serrano (“Immersion: Piss Cross”) comes to mind. There are many others. We are quite a species.
UPDATE2: Revkin has added some additional thoughts at his tumblr blog:
It’s worth saying more. This cartoon is right up there with the “pretty edgy” 2010 climate-campaign video showing a teacher blowing up students who didn’t sign on to cut their carbon footprints.
Both are great attention getters, and were utterly stupid if the goal was do accomplish anything other than inflaming and dividing people on an important issue. And that would be a reprehensible goal.
The New York Times owners, workers all can stand with John F. Kerry.
I stand with Mark Steyn, and it required alone.
On the possibility that the cartoon is a subtle dig at global warming proponents, I’m reminded of Baltimore Oriole manager Earl Weaver’s style of ranting at the umpire after a bad call — he’d shout things like “I’m a totally blind moron!” and “That’s the most idiotic call I’ve ever made!”, so he could speak his mind without getting ejected. But I doubt that the cartoon author has Weaver’s authenticity.
Anyone else seen this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/volcanic-eruptions-contributed-to-global-warming-pause-scientists-claim-9147856.html
Apparently, all the small eruptions are supposed to have ganged-up, and stopped the temperature forcing from CO2. No, really!
One is reminded of that video made by some outfit (350.org ??) where non-believers heads blew up in a bloody mess. They thought that was “funny” too I guess.
Simply put, we are in a political war and science has damn little to do with it. Both sides have shown intolerance to the ideas of the other side, but the alarmists have always been way over the top. If this was only about science then the alarmists would lose hands down and fast. But, my friends, this is a religious/political war and stabbing “deniers” in the heart does run though their minds at times.
Next time you put down someone rather than their calmly stated ideas, remember this cartoon.
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Revkin: I find the final panel in this cartoon on uses for surplus icicles to be the antithesis of humor. But some artists, like some bloggers, seem to thrive on edge pushing.
Translation: “not all jokes work for everybody. But I’m proud my paper printed it because all artists deserve to be published.”
Note to Governor Cuomo .. must register all icicles with the state, must have serial numbers on all icicles, and outlaw icicles with a more than 7 stab capacity.
SasjaL says (February 23, 2014 at 10:29 am): “As the AGW’s are the true Climate Change Deniers, so … ”
My first thought exactly. The alarmists can’t even get their insults right. 🙂
I assume the NYTimes will be liable for any mass murders by icicles in the coming weeks.
Has anyone here read, “How to create a social state” by Saul Alinsky? I believe that the discourse in the NYT and the MSM is #6 is of the eight steps.
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.
The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Read more at snopes.
The nationwide “If You See Something, Say Something™” public awareness campaign – is a simple and effective program to raise public awareness of indicators of terrorism and terrorism-related crime, and to emphasize the importance of reporting suspicious activity to the proper local law enforcement authorities
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The cartoon is using humor to try and promote terrorism. To make it appear acceptable to “dispatch” someone for their beliefs.
Would the cartoon be funny if it said “self-destructing sabers for killing climate-change deniers”? Yet that is what it is saying, hidden behind the misleading term “dispatch”, as in “send them on their way to the other world”.
After seeing this, the faux hockey stick of 2013, you still don’t think it’s a hoax? Objectively, oh yes it is!
http://s6.postimg.org/jb6qe15rl/Marcott_2013_Eye_Candy.jpg
Al Gore flies to Kansas City to tell people to stop using fossil fuels. http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/22/4843012/al-gore-brings-climate-change.html
“Look at history, the socialists are responsible for the death of 262,000,000 people in the last 110 years. See: Death by government:”
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
JUST IN CASE YOU NEED A GOOD VISUAL OF THE NUMBERS
1. 169,202,000 Murdered: Summary and Conclusions [20th Century Democide]
I BACKGROUND
2. The New Concept of Democide [Definition of Democide]
3. Over 133,147,000 Murdered: Pre-Twentieth Century Democide
II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS
8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan’s Savage Military
9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey’s Genocidal Purges
11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing
13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito’s Slaughterhouse
IV 4,145,000 VICTIMS: SUSPECTED MEGAMURDERERS
15. 1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea
16. 1,417,000 Murdered? Barbarous Mexico
17. 1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia
I do not see it as a joke. It is as many here have said. History will repeat. The list of what they think has become what they say. Soon it will be what they do. Go stand in those places listed above and think of the number of full football stadiums of souls wasted.
Be vigilant.
7-step response, just completed:
1. Read post, file under “Winston Smith”.
2. Convert to 19-page PDF.
3. Print out 19 pages on 20# paper.
4. Pull New York Times subscription offer out of wastebasket.
5. Return subscription offer to wastebasket; retain envelope.
6. Stuff 19 pages into Business Reply Mail envelope.
7. Send Business Reply Mail to New York Times subscription department.
Straight off the FCC’s website:
http://transition.fcc.gov/bureaus/ocbo/FCC_Final_Research_Design_6_markets.pdf
Title:
Research Design for the Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs:
Final Research Design Prepared by: Social Solutions International, Inc.
For: Federal Communications Commission
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An ever-so-brief excerpt:
So, when ‘corrective’ or remedial action is deemed necessary after viewing the report data, what will said corrective or remedial action look like, what will the new ‘speech and reporting codes’ guide and/or ‘rule’ book contain?
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Hunh. I find all this negative reaction to the piece completely mysterious. If this cartoon appeared in the National Review or the Weekly Standard, it would be obvious that it was a (mild, to be sure, and only mildly humorous) attack on an administration which is obsessed with explaining away a harsh winter instead of doing its proper job of aiding commerce. Of _course_ the representative of such an administration calls skeptics “deniers” and wants them dead. But the joke’s on her, he has to resort to murder because he can’t explain the icicles away.
It is a mystery that this got past the editors of the NYT, I grant you. I can only conclude that in the twentieth year of this great war, both sides are losing their sense of humor. I love this blog, Anthony, but this is really crying wolf.
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For the record, I don’t think global warming is a “hoax”, but it certainly has been oversold
I dislike that phrase immensely. The line between hoax, scam and real but exaggerated (liars) is very, very fine. My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that this a a dangerous political scam. I would prefer not to give the scammers any cause to believe we might be changing tack.
Neo says:
February 23, 2014 at 12:07 pm
Note to Governor Cuomo .. must register all icicles with the state, must have serial numbers on all icicles, and outlaw icicles with a more than 7 stab capacity.
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And don’t even think you can sneak an ice lolly past airport security 🙂
It still plays to the popular perception that being a climate change denier is beyond the pale of acceptable social norms. Even though it is poor humor, it’s designed to dictate what beliefs should be ostracized as belonging to a class like those who believe the lunar landing was staged.
As an aside, the NYT comes up regularly as financing what could be termed advocacy for whatever nonsense the UN hatches. Every time I notice their sponsorship it hits me that it is inconsistent with any independence of the Fourth Estate.
highflight56433:
Your post at February 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm is yet another example of an anonymous ultra-right troll trying to pretend that anything they don’t like is “socialist”.
Totalitarians come from all parts of the political spectrum. Your list is of murderous totalitarian governments. For example, any list is plain daft when – as yours – it claims to be of “socialists” and includes e.g. “Feudal Russia”.
Russia
She seems to be attempting to stab the ‘evil denier’ in the breast bone rather than the heart.
My first reply didn’t seem to take, I apologize if it subsequently shows up as a duplicate:
I love WUWT, and wish it nothing but well, but beware that in fighting humorless robots you become a humorless robot yourself. The only thing mysterious about this cartoon is that it slipped past the editors of the NYT. It could be a lot funnier, granted, but it is only making fun of an administration that is so obsessed with “climate change” that even completely irrelevant departments like Commerce are tasked with explaining away a harsh winter. Of _course_ their representative thinks of skeptics as deniers and would rather kill them than answer their objections. But the joke is surely on her. If this ran on the National Review or Weekly Standard sites, you would get it in a minute. It’s not a threat to anyone, please lighten up.
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It seems a cold front has worked its way into northern Florida, its clash with the warmer air has produced tornado warnings which have led to the evacuation of spectators at the Daytona 500.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/02/23/2014-daytona-500-winner-race-tv-streaming/5756125/
“Track asks fans to leave grandstands and take cover because of tornado warning and severe weather.”
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Is it the chicken or the egg ?
I believe that these types of forums are finally getting through to the CEO as well as the worker . . Could the capitalist caricature in the NYT “cartoon” be caused by this report from an article in Breitbart?
“In a watershed moment and a huge victory over environmentalists, General Electric has agreed to stop projects that are designed solely for the purpose of carbon dioxide reductions to please those who lobby for climate change concessions.”