El Niño and La Niña events are the dominant modes of natural climate variability on Earth, which is why the state of the tropical Pacific is continuously monitored. El Niños and La Niñas impact weather patterns globally. As a number of recent papers have argued, the dominance of La Niña events in recent years is responsible for part of the cessation in global surface warming outside of the Arctic, so by inference, those papers are also stating that a string of strong El Niño events were responsible for part of the long-term warming from the mid-1970s to the turn of the century. There’s nothing new about that; for years we’ve been discussing the naturally occurring, sunlight-fueled processes that drive El Niño events and cause long-term warming of global surface temperatures. If this subject is new to you, see the link at the end of this post for an overview.
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) provides the following summary of their ENSO forecasts in their January 30, 2014 El Niño/La Niña Update:
- ENSO conditions are currently neutral (neither El Niño nor La Niña);
- As of mid-January 2014, except for a small possibility for weak and brief La Niña development during the next couple of months, outlooks indicate likely continuation of neutral conditions into the second quarter of 2014;
- Current forecasts indicate approximately equal chances for neutral conditions or the development of a weak El Niño during the third quarter of 2014, reflecting increased chances for development of a weak El Niño.
It appears no one is suggesting that a full-fledged La Niña will form for the 2014/15 season. As of the week centered on February 5th, the sea surface temperature anomalies of the NINO3.4 region of the equatorial Pacific indicated that the tropical Pacific was experiencing La Niña conditions, though not an “official” La Niña. See the monthly sea surface temperature update for January 2014.
What’s your prediction? Please provide links to the variables you monitor. Here’s what I predict.
I predict, if we see El Niño conditions, global warming enthusiasts will cheer, because they have forecast, in turn, that record high global temperatures will accompany the next El Niño. And I predict, if we see La Niña or ENSO-neutral conditions, skeptics will cheer, because global surface temperatures should continue to remain flat. (Other than that, I don’t make predictions.)
The ENSO wrap-up from Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) for February 14, 2014 provides a similar loose forecast. (For those who live north of the equator, keep in mind the BOM is discussing austral seasons.)
And NOAA’s CPC has a similar mix of possible scenarios in their Weekly ENSO Update dated February 10, 2014—though the NCEP’s models are forecasting El Niño conditions starting in April-June 2014. See page 27.
The WMO briefly mentions the problems with ENSO predictions during this part of the year. They write:
It must be noted that model outlooks that span March-May period tend to have particularly lower skill than those made at other times of year. Hence some caution should be exercised when using long range outlooks made at this time for the middle of the year and beyond.
ENSO predictions at this time of year are hampered by a problem called the Spring Prediction Barrier. See the discussion at the IRI website here. But a series of new papers claim to have overcome that hurdle.
The recently published Ludescher et al (2014) Very Early Warning of Next El Niño (paywalled) are predicting El Niño conditions by late 2014. The abstract reads:
The most important driver of climate variability is the El Niño Southern Oscillation, which can trigger disasters in various parts of the globe. Despite its importance, conventional forecasting is still limited to 6 mo ahead. Recently, we developed an approach based on network analysis, which allows projection of an El Niño event about 1 y ahead. Here we show that our method correctly predicted the absence of El Niño events in 2012 and 2013 and now announce that our approach indicated (in September 2013 already) the return of El Niño in late 2014 with a 3-in-4 likelihood. We also discuss the relevance of the next El Niño to the question of global warming and the present hiatus in the global mean surface temperature.
Global warming enthusiasts have already started cheering for an El Niño. See the Michael Slezak article in NewScientist titled El Niño may make 2014 the hottest year on record. And Andrew Freedman of ClimateCentral begins his post Study Sounds ‘El Niño Alarm’ For Late This Year:
A new study shows that there is at least a 76 percent likelihood that an El Niño event will occur later this year, potentially reshaping global weather patterns for a year or more and raising the odds that 2015 will set a record for the warmest year since instrument records began in the late 19th century.
Ludescher et al (2014) appears to be based on Ludescher et al (2013) Improved El Niño forecasting by cooperativity detection (paywalled). We discussed the earlier Ludescher et al paper in the July 2013 post El Niño in the News. I closed that post with:
DID GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE THE EL NIÑOS OR DID EL NIÑOS CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?
Numerous datasets indicate that El Niño events are fueled naturally. Additionally, satellite-era sea surface temperature records indicate that El Niño events are responsible for the warming of sea surface temperatures over the past 31 years, not vice versa as Li et al (2013) have suggested. If this topic is new to you, refer to my illustrated essay “The Manmade Global Warming Challenge” [42MB].
It looks to me like we will see weak La Niña conditions for a few more months which then transition to weak El Niño. However, just like 2012 it will fizzle out late in the year. This will fuel a multi-year La Nina starting mid 2015 into 2017. Finally, we will see a moderate El Niño in 2018. By that time AGW should be history.
What do I base this prediction on? A repeat of the early 1950s.
Unless there is a sudden unexpected decline in global cloud levels there will be no strong El Nino. The solar energy reaching the ocean surface recently is at lower levels than during the late 1990s. Therefore an El Nino on this type of scale in the near future are currently impossible.
Recent SSTs support La Nina conditions developing.
http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sst/sst_anom-140209.gif
Annual SSTs so far this year even at depth show rather cool conditions.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2014.13.gif
There is a main obvious warm area between 120E and 180, but unless this moves to between 150W and 90W it wont resurface. Without this there will be no El Nino and La Nada or even La Nina conditions would be favored. In recent years this warm area has been reluctant to move where current anomalies on the other side are below normal.
Compared to December 2013 conditions this year have generally become cooler, especially between 150W and 90W.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2013.12.gif
For this reason I would favor La Nada continuing or La NIna than El Nino this year.
Re: “The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) provides the following summary of their ENSO forecasts in their January 30, 2014 El Niño/La Niña Update:
“◾ENSO conditions are currently neutral (neither El Niño nor La Niña);”
…..Why does this site show its ENSO meter at about -0.7 into the Nina zone?
Ian M
In my opinion, a weak El Nino is likely during late 2014 and early 2015 which will not raise global temperatures in any significant way and the pause and subsequent decline in global temperature anomalies will resume there after
Bob, the gyre on the WUWT salt graph at http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/GLBhycom1-12/navo/globalsss_nowcast_anim30d.gif is disappearing. At it’s peak it stretched from the 85W degree latitude all the way to the coast of Columbia, a distance of over 600 miles, and had a strong rotation. Look at the video and you will be amazed at the movement of the water. The Humboldt Current that goes up the coast of South America turns West before it reaches the equator; however, it appears that it may have moved slightly North due to the action of the gyre. The power of the gyre is greater than what you would expect from wind alone and it is in a neutral position with respect to strong ocean currents. If you look at the long term picture of the salt in this area, you will see that the gyre developed over an area of strong upwelling. See http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/GLBhycom1-12/navo/globalsss_nowcast_anim365d.gif. The upwelling is in a critical area of ocean where several fast moving currents are in close proximity. Slight changes in these currents could be expected to be important.
The upwelling was so strong that the possibility that it was caused by ice streams coming to the surface is real. An interesting test for ice would be sampling the water for formic acid. Formic acid forms when carbon dioxide and ice are present in water. There have been at least two researchers including Hansen that have reported very corrosive waters in the upwelling waters.
Can you have a cold La Nino caused by the introduction of cold water from the Humboldt Current or by cold water upwelling?
I predict the wind will blow like heck in Kansas, and it will be dry.
There hasn’t been enough recharge for a strong El Niño to occur. These La Nada/El Nado stretches are foreboding for future extreme weather events and a break down in the normal pattern of charge/recharge oceanic heating and cooling. We will continue with neutral and it’s concomitant unpredictable unsettled weather patterns that catch us with our pants down.
an L. McQueen says:
February 15, 2014 at 8:13 am
…..Why does this site show its ENSO meter at about -0.7 into the Nina zone?
That is due to ENSO conditions are confirmed when there are consecutive months above 0.5 or below -0.5.
>> German scientists believe that there is a 75% chance of an El Nino.
>> They state that 2014 could be the hottest on record.
And by their choice of language they give themselves away. Hottest??
One would have thought that to be ‘hottest’ a temperature would have
to be ‘hot’ to start with. 14-15C isn’t ‘hot’.
@ur momisuglybox of rocks
is that possible?
@ur momisugly RichardM
why chose 1950 and not 1925?
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1900/to:1960
I couldn’t care any less about whether or not its nina , nino or even nada; so long as mother nature is in control and not some group of corporations who want to manipulate the oceans and atmosphere. And believe me, they do want to manipulate- that’s why records are kept, so they have something to compare it to. If you want to control something, first you need to understand how it works.
Lets face it… we are such a strange species; look at the crap we waste our time with. Common its weird man; littering the ocean with buoys, cables and watching it closely with satellites…. really for what. Yeah its interesting, I get it, i’m guilty of that too; but! its really all for not. If anything it will be used against us and the earth.
In my next life I want to come back as an elephant. walking the savannas of Africa with my friends and family just being.
I meant to write come on not common…..duh
If an El NIno were to form late this year by the warm conditions below possibly moving to between 150W and 90W.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2014.13.gif
The warm under water pool is much cooler than the one that developed during 1997 around the same time of year.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.1997.02.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.1997.03.gif
Also cooler around the same time of year than during the last El Nino back in 2009/10.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2009.02.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2009.03.gif
I forgot to make my prediction. Here it is: I believe that by this time next year I will care even less.
Predicting an El Nino is easy. We know that on the average they come every four-five years. The last one was in 2010. If it is a normal El Nino we should expect it in 2014 or 2015.
I predict a big fat La Nina, similar to ~1955, but maybe in a year or so. Before that we will see a weak El Nino (this year).
New theory linking it all together! Sun, Clouds, Currents, Heat Distribution, etc.
First, a base line for the Earth not warming or cooling:
1) Solar energy, easily measured via the Flux, enters the Atlantic and the Pacific around the Equator.
2) The Solar energy causes extensive evaporation that neither warms or cools the Ocean waters.
3) The evaporation fuels the Hadley cells [Arctic, Antarctic Cell] creating clouds, trade winds, tropical rain forest regions, and deserts.
4) The Hadley Cell falling air current drive the Trade Winds.
5) The Trade Winds drive Oceans currents distributing Ocean water and heat/cold.
6) Eventually, the Oceans currents return the water back to the equator.
Second, the Solar Flux above 170sfu:
1) More Ocean warming and more evaporation cooling. Stronger Hadley Cell creating more clouds.
2) The Solar energy warms the Ocean Surface exceeding the amount evaporation cooling from the Ocean Surface.
3) This causes Ocean Surface warming or a El Niño.
4) The stronger Trade Winds move the Ocean Surface currents to the Northern/Southern extents of the Oceans.
5) Excess heat is then transferred to the Arctic/Antarctic.
Third, the Solar Flux under 120sfu:
1) Less Ocean warming and less evaporation cooling. Weaker Hadley Cell creating fewer clouds.
2) The evaporation cooling from the Ocean Surface exceeds the Ocean Surface heating.
3) This causes Ocean Surface cooling or a La Nina.
4) The weaker Trade Winds move the Ocean Surface currents to the Northern/Southern extents of the Oceans, but not as far north/south.
5) Heat is then transferred to the Arctic/Antarctic cooling the Planet.
Summary:
1) More Solar Flux, more Clouds, more heat input, warmer Ocean temperatures, El Niño .
2) Less Solar Flux, less Clouds, less heat input, cooler Ocean temperatures, La Nina.
The El Niño/ La Nina events are controlled by the heat input and the amount of evaporation cooling. In addition, some of the cold upwelling in the Pacific is controlled by the amount of evaporation into the Hadley Cells.
I predict (total guess) a strong La Nina beginning mid-March.
jlurtz says:
February 15, 2014 at 9:12 am
Don’t neglect the Indian Ocean, which has a longer stretch of equatorial water than the Atlantic.
Anthony,
Any chance of a guest post by one of the two Joe’s from WB? This is an important issue, and one of great interest to your readers.
@timothy
you must motivate your prediction
@Bob T. I was under the impression that a number of data collection points were not functioning anymore or intermittent. If so is data then averaged between points? and how large are these gaps in the first place where can I go to find that information?Thanks.
Most claims of x bad weather in random place happened during an El Niño, therefore they were caused by El Niño is just cum hoc ergo propter hoc. Total nonsense. ENSO is ony associated with a few phenomena on a somewhat consistent basis. But the scope of claims is much broader, including literally every weather event that happens-especially if it is bad-even if the opposite usually happens.
What’s your prediction? Please provide links to the variables you monitor.
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Hello Bob, I began compiling some references for a WUWT ENSO Forecast Reference Page, i.e.:
NOAA CPC offers Consolidated Nino 3.4 Forecasts, i.e.:
Anomaly:
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Standardized Anomaly:
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Temperature:
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Also, the NCEP coupled forecast system model version 2 (CFS2) offer an array of forecasts, also available on their ftp page.
Here are there most recent seasonal forecasts for Nino 1 + 2 SST Anomalies (E3);
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Nino 3 SST Anomalies (E3);
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Nino 3.4 SST Anomalies (E3);
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Nino 4 SST Anomalies (E3);
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It is also interesting to see the progression of the forecasts, i.e. “Forecasts are from initial conditions of the last 30 days, with 4 runs from each day. Forecast ensembles consist of 40 members from initial a period of 10 days. The 1st ensebmle (E1) is from the earliest 10 days, the 2nd ensemble (E2) from the second earliest 10 days, and 3rd ensemble (E3) from the latest 10 days.”
For Nino 3.4 SST Anomalies – E1
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For Nino 3.4 SST Anomalies – E2
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For Nino 3.4 SST Anomalies – E3
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It is interesting that one La Nina forecast appeared in the “3rd ensemble (E3) from the latest 10 days”.
Lastly, when you look at the last 40 Nino 3.4 SST Anomalies Forecast members;
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it all looks decidedly arbitrary. Based on your research, do you think we currently have any skill in forecasting ENSO? Is it even worth posting a WUWT ENSO Forecast Reference Page? If so, can you provide a warming label I can put at the top highlighting the limitations in our current forecasting capabilities?
Bob,
Do you have any insight as to why BOM and NOAA show such different values for the NINO3.4? For the last few weeks, the NOAA NINO3.4 has been hovering down around -0.7. It hasn’t gone any higher than -0.4. This is reflected here on WUWT on the ENSO meter widget.
Meanwhile, the Australian BOM NINO3.4 has not gone below -0.4. This is recorded on their graph on the WUWT ENSO page.
How is it that these two organizations are coming up with such different measures for the same parameter. One in firmly in La Nina territory, and the other is solidly (if on the lower side of) La Nada.
And given that they are so different on the inputs, how are they then coming up with a “similar mix of possible scenarios?