Excerpts on climate from the SOTU – comments welcome

I made it back to a computer in time today to get a copy of the State of the Union address, here are the relevant passages about climate:

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“Now, one of the biggest factors in bringing more jobs back is our commitment to American energy.  The all-of-the-above energy strategy I announced a few years ago is working, and today, America is closer to energy independence than we’ve been in decades.

One of the reasons why is natural gas – if extracted safely, it’s the bridge fuel that can power our economy with less of the carbon pollution that causes climate change.  Businesses plan to invest almost $100 billion in new factories that use natural gas.  I’ll cut red tape to help states get those factories built, and this Congress can help by putting people to work building fueling stations that shift more cars and trucks from foreign oil to American natural gas.  My administration will keep working with the industry to sustain production and job growth while strengthening protection of our air, our water, and our communities.  And while we’re at it, I’ll use my authority to protect more of our pristine federal lands for future generations.

It’s not just oil and natural gas production that’s booming; we’re becoming a global leader in solar, too.  Every four minutes, another American home or business goes solar; every panel pounded into place by a worker whose job can’t be outsourced.  Let’s continue that progress with a smarter tax policy that stops giving $4 billion a year to fossil fuel industries that don’t need it, so that we can invest more in fuels of the future that do.

And even as we’ve increased energy production, we’ve partnered with businesses, builders, and local communities to reduce the energy we consume.  When we rescued our automakers, for example, we worked with them to set higher fuel efficiency standards for our cars.  In the coming months, I’ll build on that success by setting new standards for our trucks, so we can keep driving down oil imports and what we pay at the pump.

Taken together, our energy policy is creating jobs and leading to a cleaner, safer planet.  Over the past eight years, the United States has reduced our total carbon pollution more than any other nation on Earth.  But we have to act with more urgency – because a changing climate is already harming western communities struggling with drought, and coastal cities dealing with floods.  That’s why I directed my administration to work with states, utilities, and others to set new standards on the amount of carbon pollution our power plants are allowed to dump into the air.  The shift to a cleaner energy economy won’t happen overnight, and it will require tough choices along the way.  But the debate is settled.  Climate change is a fact.  And when our children’s children look us in the eye and ask if we did all we could to leave them a safer, more stable world, with new sources of energy, I want us to be able to say yes, we did.”

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jones
January 29, 2014 12:32 am

And when our children’s children look us in the eye and ask if we did all we could to leave them a safer, more stable world, with new sources of energy, I want us to be able to say yes, we did.”
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Doesn’t he care about our children’s children’s children?…

george e. smith
January 29, 2014 12:39 am

So all these new solar panels getting POUNDED into place by people whose jobs can’t be outsourced.
Ever watched solar panels being pounded into place, and wondered just what the workers were doing. Not easy to find out, because the language on the roofs, isn’t English.
Construction jobs were outsourced a long time ago.
So natural gas is just a bridge fuel. From what, to what ??
The Government gives $4B per year to fossil fuel industries ?? Howcome ?? The US government, is the biggest beneficiary of fossil fuel industries; and they don’t get a dime from the government.
So what are these “fuels of the future” that need taxpayer money ?? Maybe Obama is going to plant more fig trees, to get figs for fuel, just like we had, before we got down on the ground, and discovered fire. Oh I see they are going to use AUAVs to pick the figs, so we don’t have to climb the trees again.
Did he give this speech (I didn’t listen, or watch) using his stereo teleprompters; or does lying just come naturally from him now ??

January 29, 2014 1:00 am

First thanks to all of the comments that were made This guy is seemingly a jerk but do not be fooled! I cannot add more because most of the comments were great, but the one one sentence that Obama said ( and to many it may not mean much), is when he used the word “pound” to describe a contractor placing a solar panel, my hair actually stood on end (i think somebody else mentioned it) it somewhat reminds me of Khrushchev using his “shoe” at the UN. Somehow for a moment moment Obama lost his composure (community organizer popped up?). And although most of the time he followed script thus fooling most if not all of you he made a few more bizarre statements. Do not laugh, please , this guy (and the group behind him). Do not ridicule him (them). There was also not much of a “balloon type , happy days are here again” departure after the speech less than 2 minutes btw.

John Law
January 29, 2014 1:05 am

Claude Harvey says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:10 pm
“A “one trick pony” act rapidly loses audience interest, no matter how flawless the performance may be. The pony never understands”
Don’t you mean, donkey never understands!

DirkH
January 29, 2014 1:09 am

pat says:
January 29, 2014 at 12:25 am
“WOMADelaide 2014: The Planet Talks”
Still enough shroom eaters to keep that thing alive?

george e. smith
January 29, 2014 1:20 am

“””””…..Jim D says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm
“we’re becoming a global leader in solar, too.”
Perhaps we’d be there already Solyndra didn’t go bankrupt……”””””
Well Solyndra didn’t GO bankrupt .
They were insolvent before they even opened their doors.
You have to be really dumb to build a PV solar cell, that is cylindrical, and built out of hygroscopic material. A cylinder has three times the area of a flat strip as wide as its diameter (well pi times).
So glass making is a very energy intensive process, and you need three times as much. Well I see I forgot the hygroscopy; that cylinder has to be hermetically sealed inside a bigger glass cylinder; so it’s 6 times as much glass (ok already; 2pi times !).
And being a cylinder, they are as thick as they are wide, so when the sun is not overhead, they cast a big shadow, so you can’t butt them up against each other like flat cells. So they require at least three times as much roof area as flat cells (make that pi also for commonality).
Did I mention they cast a shadow; well they even shadow themselves. The sun shines on the curved surface somewhat like a flat one, but then the sides of the cylinder are edgewise on to the sun, so they don’t get uniformly illuminated.
Guess what happens when you parallel up two solar cells, and put more light on one than the other; well the same thing happens if you put less light on one cell than the other.
The cell with the lower light on it, generates a lower forward Voltage, than the cell with the brighter light, so instead of putting out a current onto the power buss, it partially shorts the higher Voltage cell (current hogging), so it wastes some of the current from the high Voltage cell.
Because cylinders are cylindrical, and the sun moves around them, so the illuminated part changes continually; the whole surface has to be a single cell; can’t be multiple cells, so they current hog themselves.
Anyone making or installing solar panels, knows that cells in parallel, all have to be equally illuminated. So a shadow from a tree is intolerable, and will lead to current hogging losses.
The Solyndra solar panel (tube) was an engineering scandal, long before it became a financial scandal, or a political scandal.

Rob
January 29, 2014 1:20 am

“The Debate is settled”. “Climate change is a fact”???
Whoa!!!

Tom
January 29, 2014 1:49 am

I’ll tell you what’s settled. It’s a settled fact that climastrologists can’t read thermometers. If they do read them, and they don’t like the reading, it is either deleted from record-gathering or ‘adjusted’. Guess which way?
In the 1970s there were >6000 weather stations which provided data to compile global temperature records. Now, fewer than 1100 stations are used, heavily biased to urban heat islands, lower latitudes and elevations. Joe D’Aleo gets it. Start at about 3:05 for the busy viewer. One station remains to record temperature in Canada north of 65deg North.

Berényi Péter
January 29, 2014 1:51 am

The shift to a cleaner energy economy won’t happen overnight, and it will require tough choices along the way. But the debate is settled.

I am glad it’s not only the science, but the the debate is settled as well.

Real zombies are slow, but they’re both only going to be stopped by aiming for the head. Always aim for the head, I cannot stress this enough.

There you go.

lee
January 29, 2014 2:19 am

george e. smith says:
January 29, 2014 at 12:39 am
‘ Maybe Obama is going to plant more fig trees, to get figs for fuel’
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Or FIGJAM

chip nikh
January 29, 2014 2:43 am

Huffington Post gives free publication to Oxford Martin Commission for all their strident calls for a taxpayer TRILLION DOLLAR Climate Campaign, and then H-Ps comment censors BLOCK ANY NAYSAYER COMMENTS.
Hmmm. Let’s see who’s on the Board of the Oxford Martin Commission.

Oxford Martin Commission on Future Generations
Chaired by Pascal Lamy, former Director-General of the World Trade Organization, the Commission comprises: Michelle Bachelet, Lionel Barber, Professor Roland Berger,
Professor Ian Goldin,*** Arianna Huffington, *****Dr Mo Ibrahim, Luiz Felipe Lampreia, Minister Liu He, Professor Kishore Mahbubani, Minister Trevor Manuel, Julia Marton-Lefèvre, Minister Nandan Nilekani, Lord Patten, Baron Piot, Lord Rees, Professor Amartya Sen, Lord Stern and Jean-Claude Trichet.

.: H-P is a NEO-LIBERAL PROPAGANDA RAG mascarading as news-zine.

mike
January 29, 2014 3:29 am

The hive may still
Hurl its fury
Impotently
At brave Curry
Or leg-hump wise
Fecklessly dog
The blessed Watt’s
Own hive-proof blog
Or rail at Jo
Or “The Bishop”
For screwing-up
Its agit-prop
But that can’t hide
It’s come to pass
The hive has been
Served-up its ass
Yep! So dire the
Hive’s shellacking
That POTUS too
Now groks fracking

Chuck Nolan
January 29, 2014 3:49 am

Gail Combs says:
January 28, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Rob Ricket says: January 28, 2014 at 7:33 pm
The “pea” in O’s litany of rhetorical nonsense is the 100 billion for new factories.
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Since Obama took office the actual unemployment rate went from ~ 12% to ~ 24% And from December 2007 to October 2011 the USA has lost 6.5 million jobs. So why would anyone in their right mind believe him?
“If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit.”
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Gail, Obama had a city….Chicago.
cn

Gail Combs
January 29, 2014 3:56 am

Jim D says: January 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm
“we’re becoming a global leader in solar, too.”
Perhaps we’d be there already Solyndra didn’t go bankrupt….
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Yea and WHO has been buying up the bankrupt solar companies?
Warren Buffet Buys Antelope Valley Solar Projects for $2.5 Billion and do not forget it is Warren Buffet’s trains hauling oil instead of the Keystone pipeline. Maybe this is why the Wall Street Journal says Warren Buffett is President Obama’s most important ally in the Business Community
This of course is not surprising given Warren Buffett’s wealth soared $37 million a day in 2013 He gained more wealth than any other U.S. billionaire. (Warren Buffett was ranked as the world’s wealthiest person in 2008 and as the third wealthiest person in 2011.)
Now what was that the Occupy Wall Street Crowd was saying about the 1% and income inequality?
President Obama on inequality (transcript)

…The top 10 percent no longer takes in one-third of our income — it now takes half. Whereas in the past, the average CEO made about 20 to 30 times the income of the average worker, today’s CEO now makes 273 times more. And meanwhile, a family in the top 1 percent has a net worth 288 times higher than the typical family, which is a record for this country.
…But this increasing inequality is most pronounced in our country, and it challenges the very essence of who we are as a people. Understand we’ve never begrudged success in America. We aspire to it. We admire folks who start new businesses, create jobs, and invent the products that enrich our lives. And we expect them to be rewarded handsomely for it. In fact, we’ve often accepted more income inequality than many other nations for one big reason — because we were convinced that America is a place where even if you’re born with nothing, with a little hard work you can improve your own situation over time and build something better to leave your kids….
The problem is that alongside increased inequality, we’ve seen diminished levels of upward mobility in recent years….

And what is that OH WISE ONE?
Because the G&^ D%$# red tape strangles any hope an average American has of starting his own business, that is IF he has enough wealth left to try and start one after the government strips him of 80% of he earnings via all the different taxes he pays! E.M. Smith gives a great explanation of why large corporations love government regulation.
Note how corporate tariffs and taxes decrease while pay roll taxes skyrocket WIKI chart here is another chart tax dollars as share of federal revenues (Note the first chart by WIKI hides the decrease in corporate and increase in personal tax) and do not forget INFLATION, THE HIDDEN TAX Both Lenin and Sen. Daniel Webster warned against fiat currency and inflation, Who’d a thunk?
Americans are not as dumb as the president. 62% Favor Smaller Government With Fewer Services, Lower Taxes Of course in2009 49.5% of Americans did not pay income taxes so one can understand why those people might want more services and more taxes.
Unfrotunately people are not paying heed to Sen Webster’s warning:
“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.” ~ Daniel Webster
One would think the words of this great American statesman would be taught in American schools. But then you would also think the true lessons from the First Thanksgiving: that communism does not work and private property, individual liberty and industry does, would be taught in our schools too.

Gail Combs
January 29, 2014 4:00 am

Gail Combs says:…
“If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit.”
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Chuck Nolan says: January 29, 2014 at 3:49 am
Gail, Obama had a city….Chicago.
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Nope, Chicago belongs to Mob Boss Daley. Still does.
Isn’t it interesting how the mob bosses families became politicians, the Daleys the Kennedys…

Vince Causey
January 29, 2014 4:01 am

So he is going to remove the tax breaks to fossil fuel industries ($4bn). Does he need Congressional approval for this?
A new solar panel hammered in every 4 minutes? Am I reading that correctly? Thats 360 in a day, 129,600 in a year. At that rate it will take 1,000 years to nail one onto every American dwelling. Way to go Obama!

January 29, 2014 4:02 am

American Energy will now be ties to the surveillance state:
http://classicalvalues.com/2014/01/stop-the-smart-grid/

Chuck Nolan
January 29, 2014 4:02 am

Gail Combs says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:07 pm
WestHighlander says: January 28, 2014 at 7:42 pm
Here’s the true gist — ” Every four minutes, another American home or business goes solar; every panel pounded into place by a worker whose job can’t be outsourced. ”
Of course that job of pounding a panel into place cant’t be outsoursed outside the US — but the ignorant, gullible illegal alien who does the job….
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Actually the American economy is so bad there is a net migration BACK TO MEXICO!
Illegal Immigrants Returning to Mexico in Record Numbers
(Did some one say something about deserting a sinking ship…)
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Gail, Now I understand the democrats and immigration reform ASAP.
They need to make them citizens before they all get away.
I can hear ACORN now. “Just get a social security number before you leave…We need the votes.”
cn

John
January 29, 2014 4:12 am

I’ve lost all trust in this president. His promises and points all have expiration dates, or unsaid exceptions.

Chuck Nolan
January 29, 2014 4:31 am

Bob says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:45 pm
Sorry, but Obama is a bald faced liar. Or do we prefer the term habitual? He is far too lose with his facts to be considered even a D student on most subjects. He is wrong about job numbers and he is wrong about Obamacare numbers. So why would we expect that he could read a thermometer? Obama is all about politics and all about himself and that sums it up. He preys on the ignorant and uniformed.
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Yes Bob, we call that behavior progressive.
Ms Clinton, Mr. Kerry, all of Obama’s cabinet and ole Chris Christy, too.
The “ignorant and uninformed” are the democrat party base.
cn

michael hart
January 29, 2014 4:33 am

If “red tape” is preventing needed factories from being built, and if he is unilaterally able to sweep it away on a whim, then it really does beg the question of why is it there in the first place, and why hasn’t he already abolished it?

Bert Walker
January 29, 2014 4:35 am

“And when our children’s children look us in the eye and ask if we did all we could to leave them a safer, more stable world, with new sources of energy, I want us to be able to say yes, we did.”
Of course BO will be speaking Mandarin (Chinese) since he has sold our children’s, children’s future to grow our national debit by over 7 Trillion the past 5 years, and over 127 Trillion in unfunded obligations. “At usdebtclock.org, federal unfunded liabilities are estimated at near $127 trillion, which is roughly $1.1 million per taxpayer…”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/17/you-think-the-deficit-is-bad-federal-unfunded-liabilities-exceed-127-trillion/

January 29, 2014 4:39 am

Can’t we attract better people into public office than Obama?
The problem is getting people to vote for them.

Steve from Rockwood
January 29, 2014 4:45 am

Natural gas. it’s the bridge fuel that will save Obama’s butt (and the US economy) until he’s out of office.

Steve from Rockwood
January 29, 2014 4:59 am

John F. Hultquist says:
January 28, 2014 at 7:05 pm

Notice he is taking credit for the increase of natural gas production and the decrease of CO2 emissions, neither of which he should rightly get credit for except for the slowing of economic activity.

The problem with switching from coal to natural gas to reduce CO2 emissions is that it is a one time savings. Once you take credit for this type of CO2 reduction, the only next step (other than nuclear) is to actually reduce energy use. I’ll wager it is impossible for a rich country to significantly reduce its energy use and grow its economy or improve living standards beyond the current incremental improvements enjoyed through technological advance. Whatever will happen to future global temperatures we are “locked in” to future CO2 emission increases. As evidence I offer the economies of China, India and the USA.