A new Vinerism: 'Climate change threatens Winter Olympics'

From the opportunist headlines department, and the department of Vinerisms “children just won’t know what snow is” comes this press release. Apparently Winter Olympics will be a thing of the past. Via Eurekalert:

Only six of the previous Winter Olympics host cities will be cold enough to reliably host the Games by the end of this century if global warming projections prove accurate. Even with conservative climate projections, only 11 of the previous 19 sites could host the Games in the coming decades, according to a new study from the University of Waterloo (Canada) and Management Center Innsbruck (Austria).

From the University of Waterloo

Climate change threatens Winter Olympics

Only 6 of previous Winter Games venues to be cold enough by late-century

Only six of the previous Winter Olympics host cities will be cold enough to reliably host the Games by the end of this century if global warming projections prove accurate.

Even with conservative climate projections, only 11 of the previous 19 sites could host the Games in the coming decades, according to a new study from the University of Waterloo (Canada) and Management Center Innsbruck (Austria).

This is a chart showing former Winter Olympic locations that are climatically suitable for future games. Credit: Daniel Scott, University of Waterloo

“The cultural legacy of the world’s celebration of winter sport is increasingly at risk,” said Professor Daniel Scott, a Canada Research Chair in Global Tourism and lead author of the study. “Fewer and fewer traditional winter sports regions will be able to host a Olympic Winter Games in a warmer world.”

The study finds that internationally renowned Olympic sites, such as Squaw Valley (USA), Garmisch-Partenkirchen (Germany), Vancouver (Canada) and Sochi (Russia) would no longer have climates suitable to reliably host the Games by the middle of the 21st century. With additional warming projected for later decades of this century, as few as six former host locations would remain climatically suitable.

“This report clearly points out the challenges that lie ahead for the Olympics because of climate change,” said Chris Steinkamp, executive director of Protect Our Winters and who was not involved with the study. “It’s particularly powerful to see how past Olympic host cities could be impacted under a higher emission scenario, so hopefully this will serve as a wake up call to the IOC and world leaders that major commitments to carbon reductions need to be made.”

The need for weather risk management strategies by Olympic organizers has intensified as the average February daytime temperature of Winter Games locations has steadily increased – from 0.4°C at Games held in the 1920-50s, to 3.1°C in Games during the 1960-90s, and 7.8°C in Games held in the 21st century.

“Today it would be difficult to imagine successfully delivering the diverse Games program exclusively on natural ice and snow, as it was in the early decades of the Olympic Winter Games,” said Dr. Robert Steiger of the Management Center Innsbruck.

Weather risk management will become even more important in the coming decades with average February temperatures in past Winter Olympic host locations expected to warm an additional 1.9 to 2.1°C by mid-century and 2.7 to 4.4°C in late century.

The study found that the success of the Games is often partially attributed to favourable weather, while poor weather is highlighted as one of the greatest challenges faced by Olympic Organizing Committees. Weather affects the ability to prepare for the Games and can directly impact outdoor opening and closing ceremonies, fairness of outdoor competitions, spectator comfort, transportation, and visibility and timing of television broadcasts.

The study also examines how technological advancements and strategies developed over several decades have been used to manage weather risk at the Winter Olympics. Technology like snowmaking, track/jump refrigeration and high-resolution weather forecasting are now critical components of staging a successful Winter Games.

“Despite technological advances, there are limits to what current weather risk management strategies can cope with,” said Professor Scott. “By the middle of this century, these limits will be surpassed in some former Winter Olympic host regions.”

The study provides an important opportunity for reflection on the long-term implications of global climate change for the world of sport and the world’s collective cultural heritage symbolized by the Olympic Movement. It also reveals that for some cities and regions interested in hosting a future Winter Olympics, the time to bid for the games might be sooner than later.


A full copy of the report can be downloaded from https://uwaterloo.ca/news/sites/ca.news/files/uploads/files/oly_winter_games_warmer_world_2014.pdf

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January 23, 2014 9:12 am

Gawd help us to survive these lunatic claims.

January 23, 2014 9:15 am

And my alma mater (UofW) wonders why I don’t donate any more.
Vancouver and Sochi weren’t/aren’t winter sport cities in the first place…its the mountains stupid

January 23, 2014 9:16 am

LOL! I suggest Fargo, ND.

January 23, 2014 9:16 am

It wouldn’t hurt a thing for the hand wringing climate tragedy projectors if the climate were to be changing, just now, but a 17 year pause as agreed to by the world pretty much puts the lie to this latest evidence that the hoax isn’t dead.
Open note to the greenies: Be very fearful if evidence shows absence of climate change. That is a very abnormal condition, unprecedented, and possibly deadly to all living things.

January 23, 2014 9:17 am

I wonder how all those eliminated cities will react to a study like this making such bold claims based on such a weak “if”. “New study causes loss of millions (if not billions) of dollars in Olympic revenue to all but 6 cities!” I hope they react loudly.

January 23, 2014 9:21 am
January 23, 2014 9:21 am

But fear not – help is at hand thanks to the Yale Climate Media Forum and their “Team Climate”. Five eager young activists from Yale are heading off to Sochi to spread their message of doom, gloom and self-righteous preachy activism to the athletes and spectators there:

January 23, 2014 9:26 am

This is rank alarmism and in fact is deliberate propaganda. Goebbels would recognize the technique.

January 23, 2014 9:27 am

Seriously….a 7.4C average temperature “increase” in temps since the 1920’s?? Except the locations CHANGE? wow

Tom in Florida
January 23, 2014 9:27 am

All the more reason to use only one site for the Games (winter and summer games having their own single location), build all the facilities once, stage the games there every time. No worries. While we are at it, let’s get rid of the national uniforms and team sports. Go back to the original idea of individual competition with everyone who qualifies wearing the same Olympic uniform.
There, problem solved, next.

January 23, 2014 9:30 am

It won’t do them any good- it is the coldest winter evah and people are praying for warmth. Also, the day of climate alarmism has passed and people are either chuckling or yawning at this type of hype.

January 23, 2014 9:30 am

Just freakin great! The one I live in is apparently going to be perfectly fine no matter how silly their model predictions become
Looks like 70 more years of shoveling snow for me *sigh*
Freakin unreliable global warming!

January 23, 2014 9:31 am

The grand intelligence test for the public and and policymakers known as climate change claim of the week continues to unfold….and unravel. Or maybe no one really cares and this is just showmanship to go along with the paper mill efforts for tenure.

Louis Hooffstetter
January 23, 2014 9:32 am

“Only six of the previous Winter Olympics host cities will be cold enough to reliably host the Games by the end of this century if global warming projections prove accurate. ”
Stop right there! Global warming projections are a complete failure. No point in reading any further.

January 23, 2014 9:37 am

Erm…Sochi is almost subtropical in climate. Let’s wait for the Novaja Zemlja Games

January 23, 2014 9:40 am

Tom in Florida on January 23, 2014 at 9:27 am
That will only happen if IOC get a secret “donation” of several billion USD …

George Lawson
January 23, 2014 9:42 am

The absent minded Professor Scott is another so called scientist that I’ve added to my list of faux climate scientists who consistently ignore the facts even when they are staring them in the face, in order to secure additional funds to carry out additional research into the ‘problem’. This will then guarantee their employment for another few years. The scientific world is loosing its marbles.

January 23, 2014 9:44 am

It’s covered …
Upon witnessing the near-disastrous snow shortage at the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, he figured the services of his nimble one-man company, Snow Secure Ltd., could help the organizers of the subsequent games, scheduled to take place in the warmest region of Russia.”
[ … ]
… a three-pronged approach. First, organizers will rely on ordinary snow-making equipment. Then, there are nearly 500,000 cubic meters of snow that Mr. Martikainen has stored since last season in some 14 insulated piles tucked away in the Caucasus Mountains. Lastly, organizers have imported three machines guaranteed to produce snow in temperatures as high as 59 degrees Fahrenheit.


January 23, 2014 9:45 am

I have a friend who was on the committee which selected Sochi. A concern at the time was that Austria would not have reliable snow by 2014. I don’t know how to get the real data out where it matters, but reports like this are one more sad example of the dilemma faced by people who must make decisions, but lack the expertise to know who to believe.

January 23, 2014 9:46 am

Once again this culture of whining and “chicken-little, the sky-is-falling” catastrophism targets fomenting radical cultural and political change without acknowledging that adaptation is far more likely to occur, if something like end-of-the-earth, exceptionally-high, unending warming actually happens. So what !!! if these sites can no longer host. Most of them didn’t even exist in their present form 80-90 years ago anyway, so 80-90 years into the future, brand new sites will vie for hosting the Olympics as well. . . . more importantly most of the “sport” that currently exists, as well as the “technology” necessary to support it (like refrigerated luge and ski jumping tracks, and the snow making mentioned) didn’t exist back then as well. Both “sport” and “technology” have evolved to SOLVE social desires and sport “problems”. How truly sad that these authors believe that along with Gorebal warming we are also going to experience a dearth in engineering and scientific creativity, as well as the creativity of our youth to “create” new death-defying, limb-breaking sports. Hockey exists in places that rarely see snow! Jamaica has a hilarious bobsled team! The “experts” who write this drivel can’t see past the ends of their own noses. They are clearly NOT the visionaries of our future, so why should we listen to them? I actually feel dumber for having read this.

Gail Combs
January 23, 2014 9:50 am

Dave says: @ January 23, 2014 at 9:16 am
LOL! I suggest Fargo, ND.
I second that (it is minus 10 °F with snow in the forecast) or how about Embarrass, Minnesota (-11.8 °F)

January 23, 2014 9:52 am

Let me see now, the end of century is 86 years off and the alarmist community haven’t yet got any predictions correct.
All that Arctic ice that was supposed to be gone in 2013 – er isn’t.
It’s more like tea leave reading than science.

January 23, 2014 9:56 am

Oh brother! Sochi has humid subtropical climate, and the last winter olympics in Vancouver, Canada is a city with a west coast marine climate (meaning a warm temperate climate where the mean monthly temperature all year round is well above freezing), perhaps the Olympic committee should choose better spots to hold the WINTER Olympics. For pete’s sake, it should be basic that the location of the “winter” Olympics should at least actually have a winter. No?

Frank K.
January 23, 2014 9:58 am

This is a joke, right?
(Current temperature at my location in New Hampshire @ 1 PM: 8 F).

Les Johnson
January 23, 2014 10:04 am

did they look at the snow coverage for the NH?
Its up over the entire record, and has been mostly positive over the last decade, with only 2 years of the last 10 being below average. The other 8 are ABOVE average.

January 23, 2014 10:06 am

“Chris Steinkamp, executive director of Protect Our Winters”
Now they’re just making !#$%# up…

Les Johnson
January 23, 2014 10:06 am

That was for Dec. In Feb when the Olympics usually occur, there has been even more snow coverage the last decade, but the trend looks flat.

Les Johnson
January 23, 2014 10:09 am

The winter snow extent is up, way up, over the record, by about 1 million sq km, in teh NH.
5 of the 6 years with the greatest snow extent, was in the last decade.

January 23, 2014 10:13 am

omnologos said:
January 23, 2014 at 9:37 am
Erm…Sochi is almost subtropical in climate. Let’s wait for the Novaja Zemlja Games
And hope the Russkies don’t drop another Tsar Bomba.

January 23, 2014 10:13 am

No more snow myth debunked!

January 23, 2014 10:16 am

They made one crucial error. The temperature datasets are constantly adjusted to cool the past and warm the present. So at the time the games were held, no doubt it was actually much cooler.

Jim M
January 23, 2014 10:29 am

I have lived in Lake Placid site of the 1980/1932 Olympics my entire life. The old timers always spoke of having to bring ice in by train for the ski jumping competition during the 1932 Olympics. There was no snow that year and 1980 I was 14 it was cold with no snow. Much like this winter we don’t have a lot of snow but the winter has been below average cold and the last two nights it was -30 and -23. We get more snow when it’s warmer.

January 23, 2014 10:34 am

“If global warming projections prove accurate”………..Excuse me, but doesn’t that mean the projections have ALREADY failed? Every model has been wrong.

Schrodinger's Cat
January 23, 2014 10:35 am

If this temperature plateau continues the alarmists will have to create a reason for non-climate change being a threat to the planet.

Leon Brozyna
January 23, 2014 10:36 am

Too warm for Winter Olympics?
And this is a bad thing because …??
Let’s see … no snow to shovel, no ice to slip on and fall. Of course, in the real world there won’t be such good fortune.

January 23, 2014 10:45 am

Minimum forecast temp for Sochi is -18C (0F) and -19C (-2F) on Saturday,
What do we need? a 20 degree warming by the end of the century?

January 23, 2014 10:54 am

IOC here’s a solution to your future shortage of winter Olympic host cities: drop the requirement to have the alpine skiing events near your host city — in particular the downhills. This will increase exponentially your choices for suckers er hosts. For example, in Canada: Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa, Saskatoon, Calgary (without the need to use that abomination of a hill Nakiska), Edmonton all are guaranteed to have winter conditions in February for the next million or so years.

January 23, 2014 10:56 am

…and its even cold enough to have it in Kitchener-Waterloo (home of UofW)

Matt G
January 23, 2014 11:05 am

In a northerly it will never be not cold enough for snow in these locations unless they expect temperatures to rise at least 10c in winter. In the mountains with a northerly even 10c at sea level is not warm enough to prevent snow. At 1300m it is cold enough to snow when at sea level it is 9c, How can a northerly warm these regions so much above 9c that will occur in January or February at sea level? It is impossible for this much warming to occur even if global temperatures increased by 4c on the extreme side of model predictions. Will it be too warm the for Olympics in future? Only if the location has persistent southerly with much warmer temperatures than normal,

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 23, 2014 11:13 am

This is beyond parody. I assume there was a directive from the Climate Change Communication Programme (CCCP) to take advantage of the current Olympics(tm) publicity blitz and get extra airtime for the “climate message”. No doubt we will soon hear about a new study showing that climate change threatens the future of the US SuperBowl, or perhaps that all the households hosting SuperBowl parties need to purchase Carbon Credits (Indulgences) to make up for all the extra CO2 emitted by scarfing down extra Buffalo Wings and Beer. Or maybe that climate change will threaten future American Idol seasons …
The real threat to future Olympics is the increasing difficulty of fooling major cities into thinking they will get lasting benefit from hosting the games sufficient to justify a price tag at or exceeding $40 Billion (USD). [ Sochi is currently pegged at $51 Billion (USD) ]. Most potential hosts have wised up, or at least their citizens have.

January 23, 2014 11:26 am

Appalling data quality and processing. Very convenient to compare Chamonix, in the middle of the Alps with Vancouver, at the sea side.
The good thing is that some ski resorts are starting to get tired of so much fear-mongering and doomsday predictions. After all, is not good for their business. We need to get support for studies that show the opposite.
Kitzbuhel, a large ski resort in the Austrian Alps, recently made big news of their temperature cooling trend: http://tinyurl.com/osx6u7d

January 23, 2014 11:33 am

I understand from a colleague who consulted on Olympic security in Vancouver, and is doing so again in Sochi, that this city has an almost Mediterranean climate and has palm trees. It functions as a southerly sea-side resort for Russians. He regards the choice of location as a joke, and thinks its a product of Russian corruption (he’s of Russian descent).

January 23, 2014 11:44 am

The IOC could have the Winter Olympicnic at Cape Dennison each year and introduce a new sport, in which athletes have to swim through sea ice that isn’t meant to be there.

January 23, 2014 11:46 am

pre-empting any corrections, that last post wasn’t well composed, I know it should be every four years…

Jeff in Calgary
January 23, 2014 11:50 am

The funniest part is that these guys are equating bizzare location selection with CAGW. Selecting Vancouver does not mean that the climate is warming. It means that you selected a non winter city for the winter olympics.

Les Johnson
January 23, 2014 12:01 pm

Even Calgary is not a good choice for the olympics. Its a coin toss as to the temps there. The record temps for Calgary proper, in February, is a high of +18.5 deg C, and a low of -34 deg C.
Neither temperature is conducive to Olympic sports.
Odd fact – the 1988 Calgary games are the only games to delay an event due to a dust storm….

January 23, 2014 12:07 pm

If I look at Canadian games. The winter of 2010 in Vancouver was exceptional and very similar to 1958.
Calgary had the games in 1988, but the winter of 1986-1987 was about 2°C warmer than the warmest of the last 15 years. In February 1931, Calgary had 7 days with a max over 10°C and all the days had a max over 0°C. The winter of 1931 is the warmest measured winter at the Calgary airport.
I have found some huge data adjustments while looking at the Calgary data. The Weather office gives the raw data while Environment Canada does some adjustments. I have copied the data from 2 warm winters(1930-31 and 1986-87) and the warmest of the last 15 years(2005-06).
Calgary Int’l A, ID:3031093
Source: Weather office
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 1930: 6.0, -0.2, -6.3
Jan 1931: 5.5, -0.6, -6.6
Feb 1931: 7.2, 0.3, -6.6
Average : 6.2, -0.2, -6.5
Calgary Int’l A, ID: 3031093
Source: Environment Canada
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 1930: 4.7, -0.9, -6.5
Jan 1931: 3.9, -1.5, -6.8
Feb 1931: 6.4, -0.1, -6.8
Average : 5.0, -0.8, -6.7
Calgary Int’l A, ID:3031093
Source: Weather office
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 1986: 4.9, -1.7, -8.2
Jan 1987: 5.2, -1.1, -7.3
Feb 1987: 5.6, -1.5, -8.5
Average : 5.2, -1.4, -8.0
Calgary Int’l A, ID: 3031093
Source: Environment Canada
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 1986: 4.9, -1.1, -7.0
Jan 1987: 5.2, -0.7, -6.6
Feb 1987: 5.6, -1.1, -7.8
Average : 5.2, -1.0, -7.1
Calgary Int’l A, ID:3031093
Source: Weather office
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 2005: 1.0, -4.4, -9.7
Jan 2006: 5.0, -1.5, -8.1
Feb 2006: 1.2, -5.6, -12.3
Average : 2.4, -3.8, -10.0
Calgary Int’l A, ID: 3031093
Source: Environment Canada
Month : max, avg, min
Dec 2005: 1.0, -4.1, -9.2
Jan 2006: 5.0, -1.0, -7.0
Feb 2006: 1.2, -4.9, -11.0
Average : 2.4, -3.3, -9.1
In short the corrections have cooled 1930-31 by 0.4°C. The level of correction is nearly identical in 1986-87 and 2005-06 with an increase of 0.5°C. That’s an increase of 0.9°C in 80 years. I guess there was a lot of bare asphalt in 1930-31 at the airport because they have cooled the Tmax by 1.2°C while the 2005-06 Tmax is unchanged.

January 23, 2014 12:08 pm

Typical left wing Canadian university junk – and even worse these are my tax dollars at work. Vancouver did a brilliant job, as do other nations with their Olympics. Russia will makes these games successful – events will proceed as normal.

January 23, 2014 12:12 pm

Not quite as stupid as Viner – their prediction can only be tested after they are all dead.

January 23, 2014 12:18 pm

I’m from a place called Muskoka, about two hours north of Toronto, Canada. It is a “snow belt”, in that the warm(er) waters of Georgian Bay (i.e., Lake Huron), combined with cold winds from the W or NW, dump a great deal of snow.
How much?
Well, they are about to set a record for snowfall, which will break the previous record set way, way back in….2008.

January 23, 2014 12:22 pm

Sorry, this is link I meant to use:
““Other parts of Ontario which don’t get as much snowfall as in the Muskoka area, Toronto for example, in an average winter sees about 115 cm of snow for the whole winter,” says Coulson. “Getting 128 cm in a week drives home the fact why we call Muskoka the snowbelt area in southern Ontario.”
Of course, Toronto is Canada’s English-language media centre…

January 23, 2014 12:24 pm

Where’s my B### S*** button? I know it is here on my desk somewhere.

Brian H
January 23, 2014 12:51 pm

On behalf of Canada, I apologize for this doofus. Seems to be a trend to make perjections a generation or five out, just to forestall any accounting. Blech.

January 23, 2014 1:20 pm

Not long ago these dudes were telling us that the Scottish ski industry was now in decline due to global warming. A few years later the CairnGorm was closed due to too much snow! The Alps also defied their hysteria.
NB R. Gates (former Warmist commenter on WUWT) has stated categorically that we should get MORE snow in a warming climate. Hey, I can dig it but can’t dig their two positions.

Guardian – 14 February 2004
Global warming forces sale of Scottish winter sports resorts
The future of skiing and snowboarding in Scotland appeared bleak last night after two of the country’s five ski resorts were put up for sale after large financial losses……

Then the climate changes or is this ‘climate change’? ;-p

BBC – 15 January 2010
Too much snow closes ski centre
……The CairnGorm Mountain has been enjoying a bumper winter……
chamonet.com – 15th Nov, 2007
Bumper snow across the Alps and resorts are opening early!
wheretoskiandsnowboard.com – 8th July 2013
by Abi Butcher
Scotland reports bumper ski season
Nearly 300,000 “skier days” were had in Scotland’s ski resorts last season, giving the country one of its best winter seasons on record. Between them, revenue from the five ski centres injected about £30 million into the Scottish economy.
The bumper ski season was won of the longest on record, too, starting in November and finishing in May. Though at the start of this month, locals were still skiing the Ciste Gully in the Cairngorms….
connexionfrance.com – November 14, 2013
Ski season starts early in Alps
SEVERAL pistes at French ski resort Alpe d’Huez, one of Europe’s top skiing venues, will open at the weekend, three weeks earlier than planned after abundant snowfall.
Daily Telegraph – 16 Jan 2014
Heavy snow boosts Scotland’s ski resorts
Scotland is preparing to participate fully in World Snow Day this weekend for the first time thanks to excellent snow conditions in the country’s ski resorts
……She said there were excellent conditions on the upper slopes of the ski areas, such as Glenshee, Cairngorm and Glencoe. The country’s resorts have benefited from recent snowfalls brought on by the UK’s recent storms,…….
The Scotsman – 23rd January 2014
Scotland’s ski resorts set for bumper New Year – The Scotsman
Snow cover is excellent and there’s great sliding on soft snow….

These things are not entirely inconsistent with, or contradictory with whatchamacallit. Less snow is caused by global warming. More snow is caused by climate change. Average snow is not actually average but below normal from the other average thingamijig. Yep, the jig is almost over alright.

January 23, 2014 1:22 pm

I was skiing in the Austrian alps in the 1980’s and its amazing they were able to hold a winter olympics there in Innsbruk. The mountain is so low they have to manufacture snow and by mid Feb the middle to bottom of the mountain is slush or bare rock since the sun melts the snow immediately at that low of an Altitude. That was before “global warming had set in”.

January 23, 2014 2:16 pm

Louis Hooffstetter says:
January 23, 2014 at 9:32 am

“Only six of the previous Winter Olympics host cities will be cold enough to reliably host the Games by the end of this century if global warming projections prove accurate. ”
Stop right there! Global warming projections are a complete failure. No point in reading any further.

The biggest word in the English language is “if” (my bold in the above).
It is also the easiest word to use in cases of fraud and subterfuge.
And their “projections” qualify as both.

January 23, 2014 2:18 pm

Ken Schlicte (in Climate Sceptics list) notes that regarding Vancouver “It is worth noting, however, that the NOAA National Climatic Data Center Climate at a Glance site at http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/ presents the official climate data indicating that meteorological winter (December – February) temperatures in the neighboring Northwest Region (Washington, Oregon and Idaho) have trended downward at a rate of 1.2 degrees F per decade over the last 20 years.

January 23, 2014 2:24 pm

Dr. Viner said in 2000 that in 20 years time we will occasionally be taken by surprise. It only took around 10 years! Maybe they thought they were observing the climate instead of the decadal weather and natural climate oscillations.
The day is drawing nearer (as long as the surface temp standstill continues) when they will be humiliated – more.
Here they are with their predictions of warmer winters which failed. Then they promised us colder winters because of global warming. You have to feel sorry for these people, a con artist would advise that these people are clumsy at con, mere amateurs.

John F. Hultquist
January 23, 2014 2:28 pm

The “Sochi Situation” is proving to be a social and economic boondoggle. The now common threat of terrorist acts also raises the cost. These things are a greater problem for the Olympics than the weather.

January 23, 2014 2:42 pm

But Jennifer Francis tells us that Global Warming weakens the Polar Vortex sending cold air down mid latitudes during boreal winter, that’s precisely where these ski resorts are located… So where is the problem Professor Scott? Either Francis’ stuff is made of hot air or your study is! LOL

January 23, 2014 3:00 pm

So what is the forecast for the Sochi venues for the period of the games? Any chance of a polar vortex making its presence felt?
I see that the city itself is at 43.5 degrees north, compared with Chicago at around 42 degrees…

Matt G
January 23, 2014 3:10 pm

TomRude says:
January 23, 2014 at 2:42 pm
That precisely whet happens when a theory fails. Contradictions occur all the time because they don’t have a clue and are desperate to blame something on anything. Changing from global warming to Climate change was just a way of trying to hide these contradictions. Blaming everything on climate change just loses touch with proper science and reality.Confusion occurs and then it becomes obvious they have lost the plot.

D.J. Hawkins
January 23, 2014 3:38 pm

If you go here:
you can see that the average daytime temperature for Sochi in February (as recorded at the airport) is in the high 40’s (F). Seems to me that it’s fairly unsuitable now, let alone by mid-century. Not that I think AGW will make a lick of difference in any event.

January 23, 2014 4:19 pm

Did anyone check to make sure this isn’t an onion article?

January 23, 2014 4:28 pm

I suggest using one location for both the winter and the summer games. Infrastucture, housing, security, supply services and everything needed could be taken care of much better when there is predictability in weather and future.
Therefore my suggestion is Hell, Michigan. I relieves everyone of the need to question temperatures in summer and since Hell does freeze over in the winter the only prediction necessary is how that correlates to upcoming season for the Cubs.

January 23, 2014 4:34 pm

Hmmm…from the University of Waterloo. How’s the global warming thing going up there, then?

January 23, 2014 5:46 pm

Yes, with bone-shattering cold in these northerly climes comes a relative lack of snow. That is much more likely to put these guys out of business than “global warming”. Next thing you know, we’ll be holding Winter Olympics in the Andes (but then, it’s likely they will have to become the “Summer Olympics”).

Rhoda R
January 23, 2014 6:16 pm

If Global Warming continues the way it has been lately, they’ll be able to hold the Winter Olympics in the Florida Panhandle.

Colorado Wellington
January 23, 2014 6:38 pm

Brian H says:
January 23, 2014 at 12:51 pm
On behalf of Canada, I apologize for this doofus.

I’d be inclined to accept but you also sent us Justin Bieber. Now, if you take him back …

January 23, 2014 7:33 pm

University of Waterloo used to be a good University with lots of technical studies. Now they have joined the ranks of Simon Fraser (Burnaby, BC) and the University of Victoria. But then every University has a few Mad Men – pure PR and self aggrandizement – not much meat. Berkley comes to mind, probably a wrong thought but for some reason U Vic and Berkley are in the same mind cloud for me. Waterloo is joining them. Too bad. However Professor Scott does make some statements on the “positive” side of global warming, particularly relevant to a cold climate country like Canada.
Given the professor’s position at the UofW, this paper is in accordance with his teachings and his funding which allows him to travel/vacation in the Caribbean under the guise of studying climate change and tourism (ok, maybe that is harsh – read and decide for yourselves) :
His work is completely in line with the mandate of the IPCC, which is not to study the cause of climate change, but to accept that humans are causing climate change and to work on from there. It is the same thing as watching a sic-fi thriller. You first have to buy into the premise, then all that follows makes sense. The result is you have thousands of academics (and others) working ignorantly on solutions to an ill defined problem so the result is what you would expect. Once you buy in, you are lost. Might as well be at the poker table in Las Vegas. Oh. Wait a minute. I think I could do a study on that ….

January 23, 2014 8:43 pm

After the Vancouver Olympics ended, Vancouver went on to have one of the best ski seasons and snow conditions ever, allowing for skiing to be extended well past the usual closing date. This from a season pass holder who lives at the base of the North Shore mountains.

January 23, 2014 10:03 pm

Climate change threatens Winter Olympics?
I don’t care. The Olympics are a waste of time and money.

January 24, 2014 2:51 am

Current weather conditions, forecast, data and alerts for Sochi. You can find very accurate weather data forecast, radar images and warnings related to the locations of the 22° Winter Games in Sochi in Russia.

January 24, 2014 4:35 am

Odd how the record has been altered. As a lifetime Calgary resident, who was an adult in 1988, let me attempt to set some of the faulty records straight.
The lowest temperature I remember in February was 1982, when it was below -40C. I know this because I had my first car, and on my way to work the radiator froze, causing an overheat (ironic, isn’t it?). And the highest temperature I remember was in 1992, when we had 28C. Oddly enough, 1992 was Pinatubo year, and the cooling that started later in the year resulted in a snowstorm on August 20 (whatever you’ve heard, this is VERY unusual in the inhabited parts of Canada).
In 1988 I used to go down to Olympic Plaza every night for the medals ceremony with a camcorder and randomly interview people. It was cold. Below -30C for the first few days, and some events were actually cancelled or delayed due to the extreme cold. Then a Chinook came through and it was Warm – like +18 for the last half. Some events that had been delayed were suffering from extreme melt, extreme wind, and mud.
What we learn from this: Calgary’s weather is extremely variable and it’s probably not the greatest place to have a winter Olympics, but it’s a damn sight better than Vancouver. The west coast of Canada is considered a rainforest, it rarely freezes, and is where Canadians retire when they’re sick of snow and cold. Putting the winter Olympics there was ridiculous.
For the rest of that little brochure, I can only say that sometimes you read something and wonder if it was written for a Monty Python skit. This is one of those things. It’s so patently ridiculous I was laughing through most of it.

January 24, 2014 4:37 am

I guess they have found a new meme. They said the same thing 4 years ago. And nothing has happened.

Alan McIntire
January 24, 2014 5:18 am

To be consistent, anyone swallowing the CAGW concept should object to any snow related recreational facilities NOW! People don’t WALK to ski resorts, they fly and take motor vehicles- both of which produce CO2.

January 24, 2014 6:06 am

These seem to be politically motivated reports not based on any legitimate science . Winters have been getting colder in the entire Northern Hemisphere since 1998. They will probably stay cool until 2035/2045. Reminds one of a similar nonsense report by the Suzuki Foundation during the 2010 Olympics claiming Canadian winter sports will be in danger in a few decades due to lack of snow and cold temperatures . Guess where the snow and cold temperatures are this winter.

January 24, 2014 7:16 am

I continue to be amazed at the time and dollars being spent to solve potentially non existing climate problems a hundred years from now but the same universities will not take the time to solve current weather issues and help the public with better current winter weather forecasts so that the public can better plan for proper winter infrastructure and heating fuel stocks[ like propane and heating oil ] . Surely our priority is with our welfare in the moment.
Making potentially unfounded and exaggerated climate forecasts helps no one and this one of the reasons why some parts of the country are unprepared for the winters that lie ahead
“average February temperatures in past Winter Olympic host locations expected to warm an additional 1.9 to 2.1°C by mid-century and 2.7 to 4.4°C in late century.”
To get a rise of 2 C by 2050 the temperatures would have to rise by an average of 0.57 C per decade over each of the next 3. 5 decades. During the entire last century the global temperature rose only about 0.7C and there has been no increase during the last 17 years .
Yet a credible university puts out this type of nonsense forecats

Hugh Davis
January 24, 2014 8:46 am

Maybe Viner was “almost right”. I live in Middle England and have not seen a single flake of snow so far this winter.
However as a keen skier for the past 40 years I would state categorically that skiing conditions in The Alps have been fantastic every year but one in the past eight years, and immeasurably better than in the 1980’s.

Ed, Mr. Jones
January 24, 2014 12:44 pm

“The cultural legacy of the world’s celebration of winter sport is increasingly at risk,”
This A-Hole Narcissist needs to lose his job and dig ditches or some such for a while – that would cure him.

January 25, 2014 4:45 am

Since it was snowing in Cairo, and they had 60 deaths from hypothermia in Bangkok last night I’m sure they won’t run out of venues. Anyhow by 2100 they will hold them on Mt Olympus – on Mars.

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