The man behind 'climate nuremberg' explains why he thinks 'sensationalizing' climate claims is justified

Elevated from a comment left on WUWT about the Quote of the Week – sensationalizing for the greater good.  See note below.

Brad Keyes

climatenuremberg.com Submitted on 2014/01/21 at 9:57 pm

As the poster of the “astonishing statement,” I have been distressed, disturbed and demoralised by a tattoo of remarkably closely-synchronised assaults on my integrity launched from the direction of the flat-earthosphere. Obviously I can’t even begin to put myself in the shoes of a world-leading researcher like Dr Michael Mann, but I now know exactly how he felt in the darkest hour of his own Garden of Gethsemane*: hounded by politicians crowing over every typo, dogged by deniers baying for blood, ratted out by soi-disant “colleagues” and and mobbed by the bleating, myth-parroting mouthpieces of the Murdocracy (or should I say HERDocracy).

I’ve always gone out of my way to display patience and tolerance for folks who voice doubts, misconceptions and incomplete knowledge regarding climate change, even if their questions have been soundly debunked and/or dismissed by scientists, provided (of course) that their difference of opinion is a matter of sincere ignorance; but it seems it was naive of me to hope for your folks’ respect in return!

To those who have described my comment as “plagiarism” (a mastertrope of dog-whistling, ad hominem and Islamophobia obviously intended to liken me to Edward Wegman’s “foreign,” “non-American,” “A-rab!!!” grad student):

Paranoid much? Think “Skeptically” for a second. If I were stealing statements from climate scientists then how, pray tell, could I have obtained sentences like:

“THEY are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people THEY’D like to see the world a better place… So THEY have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts THEY might have.”

Notice how I refer to climate scientists in the 3RD PERSON? Are you seriously suggesting these are Steve Schneider’s expressions? LOL—OK, riiiight. How anybody could be familiar with the Professor’s lectures and writings on the planetary climate crisis without noticing his favoritism towards the 1st person is beyond me. Even for climate-debate standards, that would be tone-deaf.

The passage you thought you recognized was, in fact, a PARAPHRASE of the climate-scientific ethics Schneider expounded so memorably in a wide-ranging Discovery interview.

Sure, it was that article which first opened my mind—and that of a whole generation of non-climate-scientist readers—to these ideas, but I’ve met literally dozens of climate consensualists who’d confirm and agree with Schneider’s principles, so it seems both supererogatory and arbitrary to demand I attribute them to the individual researcher who just happened to articulate them first/ best to a muggle audience.

We’re having a discussion (or Conversation) about the way **climate science** works (and how it differs from the public’s idealized, black-and-white caricature of science as “just the truth, ma’am”)—which didn’t die with the late great Professor Schneider!

This is something around which many misconceptions still exist—let’s raise some awareness. Imagine how much colder the planet would be if so-called Skeptics stopped being so negative and made constructive contributions?

Instead of impugning my entire life’s work (what’s next? rats on the doorstep? a burning cross on my lawn?), you folks could do some CLIMATE COMMUNICATION with the people who read The Conversation—most of whom, in my experience, still labor under the understandable misconception that climate scientists are pure, dispassionate, asexual truth-machines, who have seen the future and describe their observations. There’s still nowhere near enough appreciation (let alone sympathy) out there for the bewildering flowchart of moral dilemmas, compromises and pitfalls scientists began to encounter (starting about 25 years ago) when determining how, what, to whom and what not to communicate.

Yours in defending the science,

Brad

* Speaking of trials, it seems someone upthread has had the audacity to take a soundbite from the Bible completely out of context and imply that it is somehow incompatible with Schneiderian/Mullerian/Kopaczian climate ethics:

“Why not say–as some slanderously claim that we say–”Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!”

Pure disinformation. While technically this is an accurate statement by God (or his Greek interpreter), my critic disingenuously fails to mention that it does NOT come from a climate scientist. In fact Christ and his apostles hadn’t even heard of the work of Arrhenius, so their ethical code, while admirable for the time, was obviously unable to take into account the seriousness of the apocalypse now facing us (if one believes the IPCC’s revelations)—and it is grossly dishonest to insinuate (by omission) that two millennia of advancements and rethinks in ethics, most dramatically in the last two decades, never occurred!

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NOTE: for somebody who espouses “patience and tolerance” in one paragraph, while using the “flat earth” and other less savory labels in the next certainly suggests your claim isn’t rooted in sincerity, something also indicated by your About Page. However, in fairness to you, since we covered your statement (via Susan Crockford’s polar bear blog) in Quote of the Week – sensationalizing for the greater good.  I’m giving your rebuttal full visibility. – Anthony

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AlecM
January 22, 2014 12:18 am

Ah, the madness induced by fake IPCC Climate Alchemy…..
Keep taking the Lithium……

Louis
January 22, 2014 12:21 am

“Obviously I can’t even begin to put myself in the shoes of a world-leading researcher like Dr Michael Mann, but I now know exactly how he felt in the darkest hour of his own Garden of Gethsemane…”

Global temperatures are simply not going up like a hockey stick as Dr. Mann predicted. So it wasn’t a skeptic who betrayed Dr. Mann with a kiss, it was Jack Frost.

LevelGaze
January 22, 2014 12:29 am

Chill out folks, this guy’s a satirist and a pretty good one at that.
Take a look at his web page. It’s quite clever in a subversive way.
I’m totally with Mike Mellor at 11:53 pm.

rms
January 22, 2014 12:34 am

Brad could use a good Editor …

January 22, 2014 12:40 am

I read the whole thing by Brad Keyes and I have no idea whether he is a skeptic or a catastrophic global warming kook from the thing I just read. Which is it? What the hell is he trying to say??

Eric
January 22, 2014 12:45 am

@LeelGaze – Yeah, obviously satire, but a bit overdone. Great web marketing though.

Ken Hall
January 22, 2014 12:49 am

I am waiting for these nutters to attempt to officially retire the known and accepted scientific method of discovery as being insufficient, old fashioned and in need of updating and replace it with something much flakier which supports the falsified CAGW hypothesis. Whatever that becomes, they should not call it science.

Billy
January 22, 2014 12:51 am

“climate consensualists”???
Even if it is consensual it has to be enthusiastic and continuous consent or it is rape. Or is he referring to something else? These feminists are so confusing.
Maybe he is talking about data rape..???? Tree ring rape??

DirkH
January 22, 2014 12:52 am

Gareth Phillips says:
January 21, 2014 at 11:51 pm
“It’s difficult to keep the conversation civil when there is so much anger being expressed in inappropriate directions.. If you are really angry at this man, try and reflect why, is it due to his interpretations of science, or does he annoy somme deeply rooted view of the world that you hold dear?”
Not angry. We just have to fight him to the end. He proposes a “Climate Nuremberg”. The confessions at the original Nuremberg were partly arrived at by torture, and part of the evidence got forged by the Allied. Todays warmists would apply the same method; they want to save the world after all.

Konrad
January 22, 2014 1:01 am

Mike Mellor says:
January 21, 2014 at 11:53 pm
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Having checked the website I would now have to agree. Dangerously well done 😉

January 22, 2014 1:07 am

This is obviously a satire.
It is a spoof of the type of alarmism found at SkS.
Critique it for its failure to use phony graphs and misuse of Christianity – real alarmists offer no such succour to the old faith.

January 22, 2014 1:10 am

Anthony,
Is it really the point of this blog to advertise every crackpot’s personal beliefs to a wider audience?

Rod Molyneux
January 22, 2014 1:22 am

To paraphrase Shakespeare, ” Methinks the warmist, doth protest too much”

January 22, 2014 1:23 am

I’ve just been to this crackpot’s site and he’s clearly going for maximum damage to his own arguments, for example:

Brad Keyes says:
January 13, 2014 at 5:14 pm
I second Veliko. Don’t feel lonely. There are millions with you.
Very true.
We are many.
And the deniers are few.
We know where they live. We know where they work. We know where their children go to school. And we will win, because knowledge is power.

Robert Brooke
January 22, 2014 1:33 am

Ease up – I’m with M Courtney, LevelGaze etc. this is satire. I simple read of his site shows that. Actually some of his stuff is very clever. I like this quote:
“I’m not a climate scientist. So I don’t pretend to be competent to interpret the evidence. All I can do is interpret the interpretation given to it by the world’s leading policy, government, political, economic and scientific minds, who’ve painstakingly filtered and vetted every sentence in what is probably the thickest, densest collaboration in modern science.”
The phrase ‘the thickest, densest collaboration in modern science’ is the giveaway. Not sure about the US, but in the UK that is not being complementary. ‘Thick’, and ‘Dense’ mean ‘Stupid’

Rick Bradford
January 22, 2014 1:35 am

“Action on climate” is another “People’s Revolution” that the people don’t want, but which the self-styled elites are determined to impose, with the collaboration of low-level functionaries like this individual.
One thing is certain — it has nothing to do with climate or the planet.

Stephen Richards
January 22, 2014 1:37 am

It i frightening how self-isolated these people are. ‘ I”m a poor scientist and human being who spends his time advocating policies that kill many thousand of people per year. Why do you keep tormenting liars and cheats like the lovely Dr Mann? Just because his hockey stick has long been shown to be nothing but a fraud, and , just because he promoted it around the world to force policy makers to imposed massive tax and energy price increases. It’s not our fault. Please be nice to us ‘

Sven
January 22, 2014 1:53 am

Oh my… The guy makes clearly fun of the whole debate (and pretty good one, in my oppinion) and you fall for it! Just look at his web site. He’s quite sharp and funny I think.

Robin Hewitt
January 22, 2014 1:54 am

Well I’m happy, a new word, soi-disant, self-styled, pretended from the French ‘oneself saying’. I can’t wait to use it but it will have to be typed because I don’t know how to pronounce it yet.

RESnape
January 22, 2014 1:59 am

Leaving aside his mauling of the real science, which has been comprehensively answered by:
Konrad says:
January 21, 2014 at 11:18 pm
the mangling of the English language by this individual is absolutely appalling and contributes nothing to his religious belief in AGW, it fact it is a complete turn off!

troe
January 22, 2014 2:14 am

” a mind is a terrible thing to lose” Dan Quail

H.R.
January 22, 2014 2:17 am

Brad Keyes hit all the hot buttons, but one. I’ll leave it as an exercise for Mr. Keyes to determine which hackle-raiser he missed.

Brian H
January 22, 2014 2:23 am

Have the Consensualists ever even acknowledged the existence of untoward consequences of any of their suggested/demanded mitigations, much less made any quantitative analysis of the balance of desired and undesired outcomes? Not even once, casually, in passing, AFAIK.

juan slayton
January 22, 2014 2:27 am

Brad says: …someone upthread has had the audacity to take a soundbite from the Bible completely out of context and imply that it is somehow incompatible with Schneiderian/Mullerian/Kopaczian climate ethics….
Out of context? Well no, not really. The topic of this thread is whether there is an ethical obligation to be honest, and the writer of the ‘soundbite’ is right on topic. He had just written, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?”
The writer, by the way was Paul, who was quite proud of his Jewish heritage. There was a time in his life when he would have been greatly insulted if anyone referred to him as “Greek.”
In fact Christ and his apostles hadn’t even heard of the work of Arrhenius, so their ethical code, while admirable for the time, was obviously unable to take into account the seriousness of the apocalypse now facing us….
I’m not sure how Christ and the apostles got in here, but if they have any relevance to this thread, Brad, you might consider that those apostles presented Jesus as someone who might indeed have understood Arrhenius:
“What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!”

January 22, 2014 2:28 am

H.R. He misses the “sceptics are delusional conspiracy nuts” line.
But I think he may have chosen that line in order to over-egg the “sceptics are deliberately malevolent” line.
It is quite clever and well-thought through.