Ah, you knew it had to happen. Taking a page from the “smoking kills” campaigns, the McKibbenites are petitioning the land of fruits and nuts to put new warning labels on gas pumps warning buyers about the evils of gasoline use as it pertains to global warming.
And, given that California’s governor Jerry brown was recently scared shitless at AGU by a hyped up presentation by Penn State’s Dr. Richard Alley, he’ll probably help these folks get it into law. I wrote then:
I shudder to think what sort of influence Alley’s rantings might have on the people of California via Brown.
Here’s the proposed label:
My view is that it will probably get about as much attention from consumers as the idiotic Global Warming Labels for cars in California, that are even required on electric cars (which is why I gave up on trying to sell them in 2008, but that’s another story) because apparently consumers are too stupid to figure out that electric motors don’t directly emit gases.
Does anyone except the most zealotous of buyers really care? Generally not, looks, features, color, price, performance, and mileage are still the biggest factors in determining an automobile purchase.
So, even if the McKibbenites manage to get this into law, it will likely have about as much impact as this sticker already slapped onto new car doors and the side of gas pumps in California from Proposition 65 in 1986:
![prop_65[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/prop_651.jpg?quality=83)
People still need to get from point A to point B, like to work, and will generally consider that need above all others. Basically the new global warming gasoline warning label as proposed will just be a subtle form of harassment from the minority McKibbenites on the majority of Californians.
The local chapter of the McKibbenite sect thinks the label should look like this:
350BayArea.org has released this mock up of what a climate change warning label might look like on a gas pump. (350BayArea.org)
I keep hoping environmental zealots will be forced to wear a warning label. Maybe something like “Warning: Irrational and emotionally based statements (and odors) may emanate from this individual, keep 10 feet back.”
(h/t to a bunch of people, you know who you are.)
I am amazed that the world’s leading economy is actively destroying itself and that by and large Americans are allowing it, no, making it happen. This is nothing short of suicide. We were on the same trajectory but enough Australians decided to stop it. Tony Abbott has said he wants empirical evidence upon which to base his decisions. He refuses to support socialism dressed up as environmentalism. He wants an enquiry into the health effects of wind farms and he questions their efficacy. He is now embarking on a review of the education curriculum to find out why university entrants need remedial maths and english classes. On the latter I wonder what 13 years of leftist teaching accomplishes; not much apparently. Is Jerry Brown the result of a failing education system? Seems so.
Hey, this is not funny! I live in California, and I’ll have to look at one of these stupid things every time I put gas in the car–which is admittedly not often, but still. Stop laughing, you guys. Really. Stop. C’mon, pleeeeeeze?
I’m feeling disrespected. Hmmmpf.
I think they should do it. What better way to drive it into the LIV heads that their abstract opposition to “fossil fuels” would have a very concrete impact on their lifestyle. Hell, half of them probably don’t even realize gasoline is a fossil fuel.
Nuts are still one of the major products of the State of California, I see. Perhaps warmistas should be required to ring a bell as they approach normal people, as Lepers used to be required to do, in the interests of public sanity.,
Hi, Tom J.! #(:)) re: “I’m doing good.” Good! Thanks for letting me know (you’rebeingprayedforfriend). Nitrogen, lol. I’d go for some NO2 in a little canister sitting on the center console, heh, heh… . ZOOOOOOOOOM!
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@ur momisugly J. Martin — Well, many here would agree with you, but this American has no desire to “catch{} up” to the Europeans in fuel efficiency UNLESS that can be done with high-performance, i.e., quick acceleration, a comfortable ride, with excellent handling, and STYLE (most new cars are just plain boring or downright ugly). Others may prefer to save money on gas, I prefer to spend what I can afford on excellence. The key is: liberty of choice in how to spend one’s money and the free market should determine what motor vehicles are sold, not the State.
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Re: Quinn (at 12:41pm and to add to Zeke’s poster…)
Water vapor (99.9 % natural sourced) is the #1 “greenhouse gas.” That should go first on the sign.
Then, re: CO2 natural v. human sourced, about 95% is natural. Further, since natural sources, being in close balance, could easily outweigh natural sinks, even with a very small imbalance (since they are greater in magnitude than human CO2 by a factor of 3) the natural net CO2 could easily outweigh all human CO2 making the human % ZERO:
Sources:
1) http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
2) Dr. Murry Salby’s April 18, 2013 Hamburg, Germany lecture (on You Tube).
@ur momisugly Jenn Oates — So sorry to hear that. Your comment made me realize that another gas station customer needs to be added to the list above:
The Highly-educated, Well-informed Customer (i.e., you — your comments have proven that to me): (out of corner of eye, trying to avoid looking at it, sees that disgusting orange sticker again and shakes head, closing one eye to avoid having to see it at all, continuing to pump gas) Grrrrr. I hate this state! So help me, if it gets any worse I’m moving to Texas.
Hope the school day went well, today. Hurrah, the weekend’s nearly here! Have a good one.
#(:))
zealotous is not a word. RU trying to be silly-funny?
Try “zealous”. Rhymes wilh “jealous”.
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
typo:
wilhwithJanice Moore
January 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm
‘Hi, Tom J.! #(:)) re: “I’m doing good.” Good! Thanks for letting me know (you’rebeingprayedforfriend). Nitrogen, lol. I’d go for some NO2 in a little canister sitting on the center console, heh, heh… . ZOOOOOOOOOM!’
Janice, no offense intended but you need to learn the nitrogen bible. It’s an obscure bible, known only to the most die-hard of gear heads. I will teach you its truths; oh curious one.
1) Pure Nitrogen: goes into tires
2) Nitrous Oxide: goes into the air flowing into the engine and mixes with it to produce an extra 25-50%+ power increase (depending on ratio) when the gasoline lights off
3) Nitromethane (otherwise referred to as ‘Nitro’): originally developed for rockets it has found its true meaning in life by powering massively supercharged (blown), punched out, Chrysler Hemi variants producing perhaps 6,000 hp at 8,000 rpm for about 30 seconds until the engine explodes at the drag strip. Nitromethane has been alleged to be a gift from god. It is certainly the fuel of the gods.
Believe it or not, I’ve never seen a drag race. That’s one of my goals this summer. I have seen some earth shattering machines at tractor pulls however.
So i pull into the gas station to fill up because i am low on gas,i read the sticker on the pump o my god this is bad.So i leave the car there and go home,i ring my boss at work that is 50 miles away and tell him i have orderd a horse when i get it i will be in.plonkers all of them.
Penn. State University of Ignorance and Deception …
I lived in an Islamic country that allowed liquor sales. As part of your Visa application you had to declare your religion. If you declared Islam or Morman or other sect that did not allow alchohol you were not eligible for a licence to purchase alchohol. We should do the same for the church of CAGW. If you are a member, no fossil fuels for you.
THIS, is a car:
God bless America!
“I Can’t Drive 55” (Yes! Sadly, have to, mostly, TOO much traffic) — Sammy Haggar
You may find that song personally annoying. In some ways, it IS obnoxious. There is one very good thing about that song, however. THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR AMERICA. Americans love liberty. It’s in our blood. That same “Don’t Tread on Me” spirit is alive and well in the hearts of all of us red-blooded Americans. And there are millions of us. America IS and FREEDOM ROCKS!
The label is one of those things which seems effective to a group themselves after much ideological polarization, yet is out of touch with the wider world. In a way, I hope they succeed in getting it legally required in California, because their “Warning! Gas use creates climate disruption” dumb label would generate much ridicule, both within California and of California by people outside it.
At its goal, the label would only be effective on:
1) a moron who (a) didn’t already know that was their claim about gas usage and (b) would be convinced by it, the level of thought at which they want people to operate.
2) some others under a reminder effect … except that would actually probably backfire.
Regarding #1, the number of people for whom (1a) applies is not many, as growing up in modern society without already having encountered CAGW claims in the media is next to impossible.
Regarding #2, a reason that a reminder effect would probably backfire is how many people tend to have their beliefs affected by their own actions (e.g. if someone does X regularly, he or she is less likely to think of X as bad, almost whatever X may be). Only some, not most, people like to think of themselves as evil, so reminding them that CO2 emission is not just a matter of faceless corporations or rich people but their own actions needed in daily life … makes them less likely to think of carbon fertilizer emission as horrible.
One is reminded of the conceptually rather brilliant John Carpenter film “They Live”.
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Thanks, Tom J. (oops, blush) — NO. What I need is Gail’s or Pamela’s knowledge of chemistry!
Yes, indeed, Mr. J., I am quite a curious specimen, that’s for sure.
#(:))
DO go to a drag race — make sure it’s one with at least a few Chevy big blocks in it (cannot BEAT that heart-stirring grumble). Mouse motors are fun, but Rats are cooool. Have a fun time!
Janice Moore says: January 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Not to forget, natural decomposition processes takes a big chunk of the remaining 5%.
Also, the margin of error for measurements of human emissions are high. Most of it are calculated by people behind desks (a.k.a. “wetware” …)
@ur momisugly Bazza — LOL.
@ur momisugly Fraiser — GREAT idea.
@ur momisuglySasja L (good to see you again, Sasja, but, wait a minute, was that “Sasja J?” aack, can’t remember!) — yes, the net CO2 of natural sources and sinks can easily overwhelm any theoretical human CO2 contribution.
May have been suggested already:
All windmills be labled wth large signs stating that “windmills are shown to kill birds and bats, as well as to disrupt wildlife living in the vicinity.”
And to put this same emsage in every power bill.
The global warming score for a vehicle is zero. Given that there are about a billion vehicles in the world, and that vehicles contribute about 20% of total greenhouse gases, then even assuming that a doubling of CO2 equivalent greenhouse gases raises average temperatures by 5 celsius, generates a marginal impact of less than 0.00000001 degrees. Even if all Californian vehicles are taken together, the global warming impact on a scale of 0 to 10 is zero to the nearest whole number. It is only if a good part of the world follows California’s example that the impact will be significant. That is not happening.
If you vote a monkey into power, you’re gonna get nuts.
This is a great idea. When gas costs a dollar more a gallon than anywhere else in the country, drivers will know who to blame.
To be posted on every ballot box…
Warning!
The State of California has determined that misguided environmental policies driven by loony leftist elites pose a serious threat to the economic well-being, career aspirations, commmercial prospects, and mental health of the citizens of California.
tadchem says: “If the ‘success’ of the Surgeon General’s Warning on every pack of cigarettes produced in the USA for the last 48 years is any indication, don’t look for gas stations to be going out of business for lack of sales any time soon.”
Huh? If it was a successful as the anti-cigarette campaign, we would single handedly make the Kyoto targets for all of N. America. Remember the idea is not to go out of business, but to lower gas consumption. Since 1965 or 1970, cigarette use has halved, in spite of the industry obfuscation on the correlation between smoking and cancer.