Ah, you knew it had to happen. Taking a page from the “smoking kills” campaigns, the McKibbenites are petitioning the land of fruits and nuts to put new warning labels on gas pumps warning buyers about the evils of gasoline use as it pertains to global warming.
And, given that California’s governor Jerry brown was recently scared shitless at AGU by a hyped up presentation by Penn State’s Dr. Richard Alley, he’ll probably help these folks get it into law. I wrote then:
I shudder to think what sort of influence Alley’s rantings might have on the people of California via Brown.
Here’s the proposed label:
My view is that it will probably get about as much attention from consumers as the idiotic Global Warming Labels for cars in California, that are even required on electric cars (which is why I gave up on trying to sell them in 2008, but that’s another story) because apparently consumers are too stupid to figure out that electric motors don’t directly emit gases.
Does anyone except the most zealotous of buyers really care? Generally not, looks, features, color, price, performance, and mileage are still the biggest factors in determining an automobile purchase.
So, even if the McKibbenites manage to get this into law, it will likely have about as much impact as this sticker already slapped onto new car doors and the side of gas pumps in California from Proposition 65 in 1986:
![prop_65[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/prop_651.jpg?quality=83)
People still need to get from point A to point B, like to work, and will generally consider that need above all others. Basically the new global warming gasoline warning label as proposed will just be a subtle form of harassment from the minority McKibbenites on the majority of Californians.
The local chapter of the McKibbenite sect thinks the label should look like this:
350BayArea.org has released this mock up of what a climate change warning label might look like on a gas pump. (350BayArea.org)
I keep hoping environmental zealots will be forced to wear a warning label. Maybe something like “Warning: Irrational and emotionally based statements (and odors) may emanate from this individual, keep 10 feet back.”
(h/t to a bunch of people, you know who you are.)
Please, FORCE them to use the label that says “Global Warming”. And then FORCE them to put a temperature graph. I would bet anything that most leftie/greenie pols would walk right into this.
Daft. Vehicle fuel use is essentially inflexible. Who’s going to to tell their kids they can’t go play soccer at the weekend because the grown ups are trying to help the environment yet they still drive the kids to school. Far better to promote fuel efficiency, the US has some way to go to catch up with Europe in this regard.
I know that according to gov’t figures about 97% of the CO2 that is added to the atmosphere every year is from non-anthropogenic sources. It seems pretty unlikely that “gas use is the leading source of greenhouse gases in California.” (not to mention water vapor). I’m wondering if anyone has the numbers on this.
Folk seen filling their cars at the gas station will belong essentially to 2 demographic groups;
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…… Skeptics and Hypocrites
If it is actually posing a SERIOUS threat then why do they continue to renew vehicle registrations? They cannot have it BOTH ways.
If was governor I’d issue an emergency tax incentive for everyone to scrap their car and buy a horse. Yeah, that’ll work! Think of the manufacturing job creation potential for things like saddles, buggy whips, other leather accoutrements and shovels?
Warning labels should be placed on every government building.
Janice Moore
January 10, 2014 at 11:06 am
Hi, Janice. How’re ya’ doin’? Right now I’m waiting to have nitrogen put into my car tires. I figure the atmosphere is only about 20% oxygen so I don’t want to take any more O2 out of it than I have to.
Don’t repeat that to any Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming Cult supporter. They might actually believe it! Best wishes to you. I’m doing good.
A foot of snow less than a week ago, subzero temperatures, and now it’s raining cat and dogs. Global Warming? No. Chicago? Yes.
I traveled extensively through Southern California in the 80’s an 90’s. I was amazed at the expansion in the area. The inland empire of San Bernadino is now connected to the multiple suburbs of Los Angeles with a continuous slab of concrete. Every fight in showed more construction. I am willing to bet that most, if not all, of any temperature/climate change is due to all this construction. The sad fact is that many usable facilities exist that are unused, vacant. They still absorb and retain heat The sensors are still located in the same places, but are now surrounded by manmade stone……what do you expect.
Perhaps the label could turn out to be of enormous value and even worth its expense to the consumer by listing all of the greenhouse gases specifically, and their most important sources. “Carbon dioxide from power generation, transportation, shipping, air travel, and fire; nitrous oxide
from crops, methane from cows, refrigerants, and water vapor are causing global warming.” This absolutely should be required. Now that I would pay to see.
Then since we are in the business of labeling social costs, let’s get those state and federal taxes and fees listed per gallon of gas on both the signage and the receipts.
Speaking of funny, German-accented polar vortex rap video has improved my mood a bit 🙂
mods please delete last post, having a problem today (probably sleep deprivation), mistakenly goes to my wordpress administrator page, sorry!
REPLY: Fixed it, Anthony
Our state tax money at work
Perhaps the label could turn out to be of enormous value and even worth its expense to the consumer by listing all of the greenhouse gases specifically, and their most important sources. “Carbon dioxide from power generation, transportation, shipping, air travel, and fire; nitrous oxide
from crops, methane from cows, refrigerants, and water vapor are causing global warming.” This absolutely should be required. Now that I would pay to see! (:
bbc radio had luck-baker on an hour or so ago, laughing at sceptics laughing at shokalskiy getting stuck in ice. am sure he used the words “pseudo science” – not to try to find the item! meanwhile…
10 Jan: BBC: Antarctic rescue ship’s stop-off thwarted
By Andrew Luck-Baker BBC science producer, on board Aurora Australis
The Australian mercy mission icebreaker is being thwarted yet again in its attempt to unload cargo and fuel at Australia’s Antarctic base, Casey.
The only compensation for the crew and passengers is that the Aurora Australis is cruising up and down what looks like a graveyard of gigantic icebergs, in a holding pattern for when the weather allows…
The calving rate of icebergs from glaciers is predicted to increase as climate change proceeds in Antarctica.
Sights such as these may be more common in the frozen South in coming years and decades…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25681076
These guys must own stock in label printing businesses……
Look, face it, a lot of people in California are illiterate so let’s get some placard graphics to help. Wheat, rice, cattle, dairy cattle, car, electricity, lake, refrigerator, camper, semi-truck, airplane = planet on fire.
I wonder who makes these stickers and what their carbon footprint is. I’d guess a factory in China without environmental regulations in place.
Luck-Baker 3 days ago:
7 Jan: BBC: Rescued Antarctic expedition arrives at Casey base
By Andrew Luck-Baker BBC science producer, on board Aurora Australis
The AAE is only making a short stop at Casey before heading for Hobart.
And the 52 scientists and tourists from the expedition will not even be going ashore…
Greg Mortimer: “[We had] an enormous area of very old ice (frozen sea ice of 10-15 years of age), which was to the east of where we were, and to the east of the famous Mertz Glacier.
“All of a sudden, the mass of ice was just spat out to the west, like a cough-ball if you like.
“It was a massive area of ice hundreds of square kilometres in size, and we just happened to be there at the time.”…
“Every time, I’ve been there, I don’t know what to expect of Antarctica. It doesn’t treat fools kindly. Whether or not we go into the basket of fools, history will tell. But [Antarctica] tends to jump on the back of your neck if you make a mistake.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25647689
‘Filling your car is the equivilent of .001 hiroshima bombs per second. Eat lentils and gas the b***ds instead’
The stupider their proposals get, the more the general public will take notice and begin to laugh. Not only do we know McKibbomites and their ilk (hide the decline Mann, ice bound Turney) cannot stand laughter, it seems to scare away the politicians as well. Of course maybe not moonbeam Jerry.
I hope nobody ever tells Weepy Bill about the awful properties of hydroxylic acid.
If they were at all serious, they would immediately BAN the use of cars in California.
Its all a façade of caring. !!!
I see ole Bill and his loyal disciples are all leading by example and living completely fossil fuel free lives. Well done, Bill and your flock.
NSA recorded the following telephone communications and metadata:
Gov. Christie: “We need a traffic problem.”
Gov. Moonbeam: “Got it!”
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WUWT says, “Ah, you knew it had to happen. Taking a page from the “smoking kills” campaigns, the McKibbenites are petitioning the land of fruits and nuts to put new warning labels on gas pumps warning buyers about the evils of gasoline use as it pertains to global warming.”
I am glad petitions came up because I noticed a lot of the petitions on Change.org are campaigns directed right at companies. This may be an area WUWT could use as well.
I would not be above begging regularly in petitions for companies not to engage in expensive green schemes that continously raise prices on me and my family.