From radio 666 ABC in Canberra, Australia, full audio follows.
Tony Fleming, director of the Australian Antarctic Division tells Louise Maher the AAD wasn’t linked to the Australasian Antarctic Expedition despite an implication by the expedition head that he had an “official stamp of approval”.
The expedition was brought to a halt when its ship became trapped in ice, stranding the 52 tourists and scientists on board.
A Chinese ice-breaker which went to its rescue of the Russian ship also became stuck in the ice. The ship’s passengers were airlifted to an Australian ice breaker Aurora Australis – which is due to reach Hobart in about a fortnight.
Tony Fleming says the AAD will make efforts to recover the cost of the rescue which set back their own missions.
Listen to the audio:
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UPDATE: Reader “flawed argument” writes:
A minor point Anthony,
Professor Turney “implied” approval in his Nature article but he absolutely said it in his Guardian article available at the University of New South Wales newsroom (http://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science/chris-turney-responds-critics-antarctic-science-expedition)
“We worked on our research programme with the Australian Antarctic Division and other bodies and the expedition was considered significant enough to be given the official stamp of approval.”
Not much chance he simply misconstrued an environmental impact permit from AAD – he certainly is being deceptive in that article.
Moreover, the University of New South Wales kept tweeting the article as late as yesterday in Professor Turney’s defence, hours after Dr. Fleming’s radio interview. Presumably they hadn’t got the memo from Dr. Fleming yet. Amazing that Professor Turney was still self-promoting from Aurora australis last night with a puff piece from the BBC but hadn’t let his employer know that his (now) hosts the AAD were not amused.
11 Jan: UK Spectator: Mark Steyn: Global warming’s glorious ship of fools
Has there ever been a better story? It’s like a version of Titanic where first class cheers for the iceberg
But still: you’d have to have a heart as cold and unmovable as Commonwealth Bay ice not to be howling with laughter at the exquisite symbolic perfection of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition ‘stuck in our own experiment’, as they put it. I confess I was hoping it might all drag on a bit longer and the cultists of the ecopalypse would find themselves drawing straws as to which of their number would be first on the roasting spit…
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9112201/ship-of-fools-2/
I look forward to the forthcoming papers from the scientific data collected during this voyage of the minnow.
Oh goodness Alvin Stone…
A. “I was so incredibly busy I can be forgiven for just making stuff up on the spot”
B “Despite the intensity, I have managed to keep my LinkedIn profile completely up to date, because I have a feeling I’ll be needing a need job soon”
C. “When I say “volunteered”, I meant lent to Chris Turney’s private venture from my Australian Research Council funded position, of which Professor Turney is a co-Director. I don’t mean I actually gave up any of my Australian taxpayer funded salary. None of us do that when we are holidaying or selling our books. Don’t be silly”.
D. “The UNSW communications team took over when it became apparent this was a right royal f…up and they don’t have to give their names when they pass on bulls..t”.
E. All of the above.
Confined to quarters. Forever.
How very sad.
I would observe that ‘Climate Science’ and ‘Glaciology’ do not belong to Science.
Fairfax Media, who claimed the Expedition as their own, & had Nicky & Colin on the Aurora Australis,
Nicky Phillips/Colin Cosier:
Follow Fairfax Media’s Antarctic expedition here
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/antarctic-expedition-leader-relieved-but-sad-to-leave-russian-ship-20140103-308wx.html
looking for ice cores, but diverted,
Christmas on an icebreaker (00:52)
VIDEO: Nicky says unfortunately they won’t get to wherever they planned to go to study ice cores, which is one of the main reasons she and Cosier have been in the Antarctic for 3 weeks. because a ship is in distress in Commonwealth Bay & they have to go rescue them.
Credits CAMERA/EDIT: Colin Cosier
http://media.watoday.com.au/news/national-news/christmas-in-antarctica-5037954.html
has been doing quite a PR job for CSIRO all week, as the Turney Antarctic Exhibition falls apart:
8 Jan: SMH: Ben Westcott: CSIRO ‘apologises’ for lack of research on dragons
“This morning when the film crew left, Sophie said ‘I forgot to tell them they can come back when we have a dragon’,” she said. “I told her they can’t do it now, it might be very long time but they’re looking into it.”…
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/csiro-apologises-for-lack-of-research-on-dragons-20140108-30ggg.html
9 Jan: SMH: Ben Westcott/Matthew Raggatt: Queensland girl’s Christmas inquiry fires new passion at CSIRO for dragon studies
”All her friends are now saying they want to be a scientist and Sophie says she now wants to work in the CSIRO. She’s saying Australian scientists can do anything,” she said.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/queensland-girls-christmas-inquiry-fires-new-passion-at-csiro-for-dragon-studies-20140108-30hv4.html
10 Jan: SMH: Ben Westcott: CSIRO builds Sophie a dragon
PHOTO CAPTION: CSIRO in Melbourne has created Sophie her very own titanium dragon, modelled after Toothless from the Pixar movie How to Train Your Dragon. Photo: CSIRO
Queensland’s Sophie Lester asked for a dragon – and the world delivered…
Scientists spent two days designing and printing the dragon, using their state-of-the-art 3D printer…
CSIRO said they had received a number of offers of support since Sophie’s story went viral on Wednesday.
One special offer came from the director of How to Train Your Dragon, who saw Sophie’s request and will now also be sending her a dragon to call her own.
Seven-year-old Sophie made headlines world-wide this week after she wrote to the CSIRO asking them to help make her a dragon…
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/csiro-builds-sophie-a-dragon-20140110-30lpf.html
Is there nothing in climate alarmism that sufficiently worth while that lying about it is not necessary? It seems not.
Any news where the AS is now and where is it heading?
“The Australian Antarctic Division and other bodies gave the official stamp of approval for AAE. #spiritofmawson http://www.theguardian.com/science/antarctica-live/2014/jan/04/antarctic-expedition-was-worth-it-chris-turney …”
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X Anonymous says: “UNSW, mmmm, where have I heard that institution before?”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-12/trials-of-skin-cancer-drug-dz13-suspended-amid-misconduct-claims/4881622
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From the link: “Two investigations conducted at the UNSW into allegations against Professor Khachigian and his team found that there was no evidence of research misconduct.”
Obviously, the investigations must continue for some time before they convince everyone that there is no evidence of research misconduct. But who will investigate the investigators?
[snip – sorry this comment about the station frequency is just too stupid to post – Anthony]
live ship information here:http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/
I found the aurora aust. but not the akademik S.
That site has a search feature, once I typed it correctly it located the AS on the southern tip of NZ.
Well, you can’t polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
Come on Turney, Turkey or Turnip (or whatever you are destined to be known as), take one for the team, get your clothes off and cover yourself with some sticky substance for the arrival.
Definition of luck is being prepared when the situation arrives.
This expedition was caught by pack ice, due to forecasted change in wind direction and strength.
They where not prepared or did not pay notice to the forecasts.
They have shown for the whole World their incompetence in the Antarctic?
I thought both ships had escaped the ice on the 8th as Anthony forecasted and the polar star was released from rescue duty but this article seems to say the the AS is still stuck? What is the situation now? I am confused.
@Timothy Sorenson
The position of the AS on marinetraffic is not current, as she is out of reach of terrestrial AIS stations. ETA in Bluff is tuesday, Jan 14, and departure sat, Jan 18.
I think the article was written a few days ago.
Also, yesterday on BBC Radio4 they had a folllow up piece on the unfortunate explorers on the show Inside Science. This show had interviewed Turney before he went and it is implied that they were the people who put the BBC journalist onboard.
That journalist basically blames the weather and then the D-word is used to describe those who misunderstand that the wrold is doomed. There is much wailing over the abuse of hte story in the press to imply that ice isn’t following the expected decline. Although they do admit that Antarctoic ice has grown by 1%ish.
If you can receive it and have a strong stomach:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03nt8x8/Inside_Science_Antarctica_weather_and_climate_change_GM_Fish_Oils_Melanin_Fossils_Time_Travel/
There is no mention of our host’s contribution to their rescue.
However, the article on time travel and Twitter was quite empirical and interesting.
If ever we needed a sign that the ABC is evil… there it is
Chris Turney; Head of Climate Seance.
@ur momisugly pat says:
January 9, 2014 at 6:54 pm
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Check out the authoritative media outlet that the UNSW’s Spirit of Mawson expedition spokesman Alvin Stone previously worked for – Fairfax Community Newspapers. As an Editor, an Assistant Editor, a Features Editor and a Sub Editor.
http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alvin-stone/41/146/625
Fairfax Community Newspapers are the free suburban throwaways that are 90% advertising, with a few local stories chucked in to fill the space between the ads. Stories that (these days) are too often just advertorial ‘media releases’ promoting local tourism or whatever. These suburban freebies make most of their money from the real estate ads which fill two-thirds of each paper.
http://ffx.adcentre.com.au/fairfax-community-newspapers-nsw.aspx
Old Ranga says: @ur momisugly January 10, 2014 at 1:31 am
…Check out the authoritative media outlet that the UNSW’s Spirit of Mawson expedition spokesman Alvin Stone previously worked for – Fairfax Community Newspapers….
Fairfax Community Newspapers are the free suburban throwaways…
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Oh you mean the ‘newspaper’ you see on the floor of the post office with the big muddy foot print in the middle of it.
What I would like to know is how these fools thought they were going to get away with this exercise in propaganda in the first place.
Either they were planing to tell really big lies (And with a young boy with a big mouth on board that was not wise) or they were mesmerized by their own rhetoric.
I am sure glad their own hubris brought their plans low.
>i>David in Michigan says:
January 9, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Not that it changes anything but all I ever see in these articles is ” 52 scientists and tourists”. Does anyone know the actual breakdown between these two groups?
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expedition members detailed here: http://www.spiritofmawson.com/#
Meanwhile on the Aurora australis:
– several passengers have called in the Japanese whalintg fleet to borrow a harpoon if the Greens Senator elect whines about it being a dry ship once more;
– Professor Turney breaks a world record for losing in 500 by calling open misere 130 times in a row but failing to have the cards. Explaining for the 130th how it wasn’t his fault, he just got an incredibly unlucky hand, even his wife screams “for gawds gawd sake Chris, put a sock in it. That effing voice is driving me crazy. If you giggle one more time…..”
– the PhD student studying the North Atlantic suddenly realises she is at the wrong end of the world.